If this has been asked,and answered before, please delete. I am coming from a droid incredible, and with fast charge, it takes about an hour and a half. How fast doors the Rezound charge? Thanks...
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My battery monitor widget shows an average of 3h 55m for AC charge and 6h 15m for USB charge.
This is for 0-100%. On AC charge, it will go from 10-90% in a little more than an hour.
According to the AC charger itself 3 hours for standard 4 hours for extended. Those are estimates I am sure. And probably with the phone powered down.
Last time mine was totally used up it took about 2 hours.
SamXp said:
My battery monitor widget shows an average of 3h 55m for AC charge and 6h 15m for USB charge.
This is for 0-100%. On AC charge, it will go from 10-90% in a little more than an hour.
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yeah, it seems to trickle charge at the end. I'll look at the mah and it will be 40-50mah and I'm wondering if something is wrong...
Advice
I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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yeah, it seems to trickle charge at the end. I'll look at the mah and it will be 40-50mah and I'm wondering if something is wrong...
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That's exactly what it does. It will charge at near 1A from 20-80% and then drop to about a 200mA charge.
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I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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because we can live without our phones twice a day??? This just isn't possible for most people.
Not everyone has the luxury to just turn their phone off. I need mine on 24/7 for more reasons than not.
jdmba said:
I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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jdmba said:
I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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Care to explain what this accomplishes?
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Care to explain what this accomplishes?
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Nothing. It still trickle charges near peak voltage when the phone is off.
True on the trickle charge, but it's not fighting the drain of keeping the operating system, radio, and other processes going while it's charging. You get a much more complete charge when it's completely off. Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
If you have to have your phone 24/7, invest in a couple of extended batteries, and have a standalone charger. The most you will ever be offline because of power is maybe 90 seconds while switching batteries.
One more thing, for those that don't know yet, before powering down, go to Menu, Settings, Power, and untick the fast boot option. That way you will be fully powered down while charging, not just in sleep mode.
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Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
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and shortened the life of the battery quite a bit.
~John
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True on the trickle charge, but it's not fighting the drain of keeping the operating system, radio, and other processes going while it's charging. You get a much more complete charge when it's completely off. Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
If you have to have your phone 24/7, invest in a couple of extended batteries, and have a standalone charger. The most you will ever be offline because of power is maybe 90 seconds while switching batteries.
One more thing, for those that don't know yet, before powering down, go to Menu, Settings, Power, and untick the fast boot option. That way you will be fully powered down while charging, not just in sleep mode.
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Nah, I get 12-16 hours out of a standard battery. Plus, I have a car charger and several AC chargers. My point was, I am not going to turn off my phone just to charge it. Not to mention, extended batteries are cumbersome.
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and shortened the life of the battery quite a bit.
~John
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I always hear someone say this, but the funny thing is, that is no different then charging the battery in most stand alone chargers.
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I have seen a few others mention this, any idea on why some of us are loosing 10% of our battery when we reboot?
I'm thinking next full charge, I will do a battery stats erase in clockwork recovery.
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I have seen a few others mention this, any idea on why some of us are loosing 10% of our battery when we reboot?
I'm thinking next full charge, I will do a battery stats erase in clockwork recovery.
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It seems like every time I reboot I lose at least 5% battery.
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It seems like every time I reboot I lose at least 5% battery.
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same here.
has anyone else noticed that this phone takes ForEVER to charge? My evo would nearly fully charge in an hour and a half, I think my Tbolt, first real charge, took 3 hours.
nosympathy said:
same here.
has anyone else noticed that this phone takes ForEVER to charge? My evo would nearly fully charge in an hour and a half, I think my Tbolt, first real charge, took 3 hours.
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Ive never had a phone charge that fast so its def not specific to the Tbolt.
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Ive never had a phone charge that fast so its def not specific to the Tbolt.
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yeah my iPhone 4 would go from 15-20% to full in maybe 2 hours, on a bad day, and my evo would go from 20% ish to full in an hour and a half.
Guess I am just a little spoiled maybe.
The phone might do a "quick" charge to 80 - 90 percent, and then go into a trickle charge. I can get to the mid 80s in a couple of hours but then is slows down after that, which is a good thing.
I'm seeing the same thing as far as loosing 5-10% on a reboot. Seems like there are still some issues with the battery life on this big guy.
Dan
wait you can unplug your phone? j/k
the boot time stock is way too long... the system is loading so much junk it takes alot out of the battery... my guess is checking all the radios and such uses alot of battery and thats why the phone has the fastboot option
Here some info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Its also better to charge with a car charger or in the wall. USB in pc does take forever if you are noticing it takes longer this could be a reason.
I was going to post this, very annoying to lose that much battery on reboot. On my evo you would gain charge while rebooting on the charger...
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Its also better to charge with a car charger or in the wall. USB in pc does take forever if you are noticing it takes longer this could be a reason.
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This is true. If I recall correctly, according to USB spec a device can draw about 100mA from a USB port without negotiation. With proper negotiation, the current draw can go as high as 500mA.
The stock HTC charger is rated at 1A (1000mA). So at least on paper, the wall charger is twice as fast as a USB port with proper installation. If negotiation is unsuccessful, the wall charger can be 10x faster than a USB port that isn't properly detecting the phone.
I'm a truck driver, I work 12-16 hours a day. I use my bolt to listen to my hometown radio shows, and slacker when they aren't on.
Is it a bad thing to have it plugged in all day? I read once its fully charged it runs off the charger power..
Thoughts?
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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so i came from the evo 4G where people threw hissy fits both ways. There were people who would claim left and right that it is bad for the battery, that the battery will catch fire, melt, explode, what have you, and then there was the other like 80% of us who used trickle charging with out a problem.
personally, and what I seemed to notice, the like 6 people who actually claimed to have issues with trickle charging had purchased and were using super cheap chinese batteries.
So i am going to disagree, and say there will be no issue with trickle charging unless you start using cheap chinese batteries, and even then the percentage chance of you having an issue is so minor.
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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zipkicker said:
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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looking at battery monitor widget my phone after hitting 100% charge is pulling 180 or less mA while "idle" and the temp sits about 32-33C. Seems to keep the Voltage very very steady. Whatever HTC did I really doubt it will hurt your phone in anyway.
I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
nosympathy said:
uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
RafficaX said:
now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
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Personally I never shut my phone off, it's on 24/7/365, if I don't want to be bothered it goes into silent mode but is always on.
For me, I plug the phone in every night when I go to bed... when I wake up, I unplug it for a minute and then plug it back in. Normally when I wake up it's anywhere between 95-100% showing.... Once I'm done getting ready I grab the phone and off I go with a full charged battery.
Unlike some phones the android phones have never kept a 100% charge while plugged in... this is one thing I do miss from the iphone, it always kept it at 100% while plugged in. The android phones stop charging when it get's to 100% and start again at an unkown %.
There is no magic... the only reason for unplulgging it is to start the charging process again.
what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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its battery monitor widget in the market. Its a white box with a green battery on it.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
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Use the built in battery widget and see what you get.. it will display the actual percentage on the screen.
I doubt it's a problem, it should be capable of switching to a trickle or over to powering vs. charging in the circuitry. The worst thing you can do for these relative to the charge is drain them completely and let them sit drained. These days for the longest life, you'd keep it at around 3/4 charged, but it's not a huge difference in life usually. The reason for that is lithium batteries hold a native charge by default.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
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They do not have memory. I dug up an old article I wrote nearly 6 years ago where I touch on that fact even notebookforums.com/thread94560.html
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
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Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
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ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
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HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19651965&postcount=7
I thought I would bring some info I highly pushed with the Thunderbolt and Evo 4G that applies here. IF YOU HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY, YOU WILL WANT TO DO THIS SO YOUR PHONE UTILIZES THE ENTIRE EXTENDED BATTERY. The phone comes with a smaller battery, so it's batterystats.bin file is set to see that battery. It may not charge your extended battery all the way as it will think it is done charging much sooner than it is. Not that you won't get longer battery life without doing this, but you can always get MOAR!
**Disclaimer**I am not responsible for anything you do to your phone, zombie apocalypse, or the fact your phone called your girl/guy at the wrong time**As always your mileage will vary, some phones work better than others**
This is a form of bump charging your phones. I used it today, and noticed beyond better battery life immediately. So let us get down to business.
[Step 1] You will need to plug the phone into your charger, and charge the phone until the Notification light turns green.
[Step 2] Unplug the charger, wait for the green light to go out, plug the charger back in and wait for the light to turn green again. Upon doing so, turn the phone off. You will need to have fast boot OFF.
[Step 3] Once the phone is off, wait for the light to turn green, and unplug your charger, wait for the green light to go out, and plug back in. Repeat this step for a total of 10 unplug, plug back ins. Don't panick if sometimes it takes much longer than other times to turn green. You are charging the battery past the "capacity" that batterystats.bin says the battery has, which we will come back to in a min. Power on your phone. If you do not, or cannot temp root skip step 4
[Step 4] If you are able to temp root, then you can make your battery even better. Using a root explorer, go to data/system/ and delete the file batterystats.bin and reboot your phone. DO NOT use any battery calibration apps from the market, and down the road when we get S-OFF Clockwork Mod to wipe the battery stats. There is a known issue with CWM where it doesn't work, and I have tested a few calibration apps that say they delete batterystats.bin, but the file is always there, with the same data in it after using the app. Only way I have seen that works is manually deleting it.
[Step 5] The Hardest part of all. Use your phone, do not plug the phone in once, until it hits the 15% mark and asks you to. Once you do plug it into charge, let it charge all the way back up. You are building the batterystats.bin file so it understands how much charge your battery can actually hold. FUTURE REFERENCE: you will need to do this everytime you factory reset the phone, everytime you flash a new rom, etc. I know we cannot do all this currently, but this guide will still provide usefulness down the road when we get S-OFF as you will want to calibrate the battery the same way.
****If there is anything you noticed i put in wrong, or questions let me know***HTC has supported this method, minus deleting batterystats on many of their phones, and yet again seems to work on the rezound as well.****
Or you could just download the free battery monitor widget by 3c and you will notice your green light turn on at "100%" but keep an eye on the mA being pushed into the phone. When the mA goes from a positive (green number) to a negative (red number) that's when you should unplug. You will notice that your rezound "thinks" its 100% about 10-25 min before it really is... Much easier than feeling tweeked out, plugging and unplugging multiple times. Just another option. Good post though for sure. As most would NOT benefit from the full extended potential the battery has to offer.
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Or you could just download the free battery monitor widget by 3c and you will notice your green light turn on at "100%" but keep an eye on the mA being pushed into the phone. When the mA goes from a positive (green number) to a negative (red number) that's when you should unplug. Much easier than feeling tweeked out, plugging and unplugging multiple times. Just another option. Good post though for sure. As most would NOT benefit from the full extended potential the battery has to offer.
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when the mA goes red though, is based off the batterstats.bin file. I was not even talking about when to unplug the phone. I am talking about allowing the android OS to see how battery it actually has to use. so you are talking about something different than I am.
**edit** wanted to add. Your phone hitting 100% may in all reality only be hitting say 95% for example, but your phone thinks it is 100% hence why you can turn your phone off when at 100% and it continues to charge.
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when the mA goes red though, is based off the batterstats.bin file. I was not even talking about when to unplug the phone. I am talking about allowing the android OS to see how battery it actually has to use. so you are talking about something different than I am.
**edit** wanted to add. Your phone hitting 100% may in all reality only be hitting say 95% for example, but your phone thinks it is 100% hence why you can turn your phone off when at 100% and it continues to charge.
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I'd be willing to agree we're both right
**edit** I did re-word my post before your response and my reply. Its funny how we're talking the same language, but bad timing. Lol
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I'd be willing to agree we're both right
**edit** I did re-word my post before your response and my reply. Its funny how we're talking the same language, but bad timing. Lol
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haha read it now. Was unaware that the rezound knew to keep charging. The Tbolt never did(atleast in the beginning as i stopped using it for awhile), and the Evo 4G never did either. I never thought to check this as HTC themselves never made mention of it charging past "100%" on its own.
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haha read it now. Was unaware that the rezound knew to keep charging. The Tbolt never did(atleast in the beginning as i stopped using it for awhile), and the Evo 4G never did either. I never thought to check this as HTC themselves never made mention of it charging past "100%" on its own.
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Stupid phones! Just give us a bad ass device that's unlocked, so we can do what we want already! The majority of people with these devices have no clue of their potential anyway. I work for vzw Btw and just deleted all my pics of the Samsung "Fixthis" over rated and cheap feeling like all other Sammy's IMO. I'm keeping my rezound no matter what. Even though Chingy hooked my Tbolt up with mad unreleased ish. I just switch my sim back n forth as needed
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I did the battery stats fix with my Inc a long time ago. When I popped on the Rezound extended battery I plugged in the charger and it took 4 hours to charge vs about 1 for the original. Now at the end of a full day I have about 70% left, so I'm pretty sure the Rezound is much better about figuring out battery stats then older HTC's. IMHO. I'd love to see some data to back me up though.
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[Step 2] Unplug the charger, wait for the green light to go out, plug the charger back in and wait for the light to turn green again. Upon doing so, turn the phone off. You will need to have fast boot OFF.
[Step 3] Once the phone is off, wait for the light to turn green, and unplug your charger, wait for the green light to go out, and plug back in. Repeat this step for a total of 10 unplug, plug back ins. Don't panick if sometimes it takes much longer than other times to turn green. You are charging the battery past the "capacity" that batterystats.bin says the battery has, which we will come back to in a min. Reboot your phone. If you do not, or cannot temp root skip step 4
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So, step 2 turn the phone off at the end. after step 3. u say to reboot?? so if the phone is already off.. u mean to turn it on. then turn it off? kinda doesnt make any sense. Unless by reboot, you mean to just simply turn the phone on. in which, u should probably word it "Power Up" not reboot.
so confused lol
Lithium batteries are charged by monitoring voltage first. The phone can monitor the mAh going in and out, but it really has no bearing on the charging. It does allow the phone to monitor the health of the battery by watching for capacity changes as it ages.
Bump charging gives a slight overcharge, this is why the battery lasts a little longer. Charging with the phone off is best for calibrating the battery stats and for battery life because the phone can actually fully charge the battery. It is not possible to fully charge the battery when the phone is powered on as the battery is in use.
Here is a link to a post I made about lithium type batteries and how they charge and the reasons for calibration. It should clear up some things about the batteries.
You can do a bit of a bump charge by charging the battery with the phone off, then when the LED turns green, pull the charger and let the battery settle a few minutes then plug it back in. The LED should not be green and it will charge at the fast constant voltage rate for a bit more. Let it charge about another hour then unplug, wait a few minutes and re-plug it in again. This can force in a few extra mAh.
LexusBrian400 said:
So, step 2 turn the phone off at the end. after step 3. u say to reboot?? so if the phone is already off.. u mean to turn it on. then turn it off? kinda doesnt make any sense. Unless by reboot, you mean to just simply turn the phone on. in which, u should probably word it "Power Up" not reboot.
so confused lol
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yeah I meant turn it on lol...sorry for the confusion. I will fix the OP
Marine6680 said:
Lithium batteries are charged by monitoring voltage first. The phone can monitor the mAh going in and out, but it really has no bearing on the charging. It does allow the phone to monitor the health of the battery by watching for capacity changes as it ages.
Bump charging gives a slight overcharge, this is why the battery lasts a little longer. Charging with the phone off is best for calibrating the battery stats and for battery life because the phone can actually fully charge the battery. It is not possible to fully charge the battery when the phone is powered on as the battery is in use.
Here is a link to a post I made about lithium type batteries and how they charge and the reasons for calibration. It should clear up some things about the batteries.
You can do a bit of a bump charge by charging the battery with the phone off, then when the LED turns green, pull the charger and let the battery settle a few minutes then plug it back in. The LED should not be green and it will charge at the fast constant voltage rate for a bit more. Let it charge about another hour then unplug, wait a few minutes and re-plug it in again. This can force in a few extra mAh.
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I'll be honest I haven't looked at exactly how much of a change it results on the Rezound, but on the Evo 4G for example, we got more than a "few" extra mAh. I am glad to see someone agree with me, to an extent. I will say the way I listed it is the way provided by HTC back when the Evo came out. What you said to do, we tried with the Evo 4G and it didn't work quite as well. Maybe that is why you say only a few mAh.
The one thing I have missed from my Evo 4G days are the trickle charge kernels. I know everyone thought they were bad, but no one ever had real proof of them damaging a phone, hell I used trickle charging kernels only for well over a month everyday and never had any issues. I would love to see those come to the Rezound.
I did every trick in the book to increase battery life in my Droid Charge (bump charge, deleting batterstats.bin etc etc etc) .
I stream audio all day at work from either iheart radio or sirius online & that absolutely KILLS battery life. My Charge would kill a 3500 extended battery before the end of a long work day.
Now, I am getting awesome battery life from the 2750 extended battery on the Rezound. I bought two of the 2750 batteries with the phone as they where only $29 each at the time with the extended back.
I did no tricks at all other than fully charge and let it run down to about 2% a couple times. I have been using this phone the exact same way as the Charge & I have yet to go to the second battery. I stream all day & its still running when I walk in the house at the end of a LONG work day.
~John
Good lord, am I the only one that doesn't look at their phone while it's charging? I prefer to be asleep and let it suck as much power as it can. I will try your method, but you might want to mention to use the stock charger, since it's been my experience that it's the only thing that actually charges the phone properly.
MrSmith317 said:
Good lord, am I the only one that doesn't look at their phone while it's charging? I prefer to be asleep and let it suck as much power as it can. I will try your method, but you might want to mention to use the stock charger, since it's been my experience that it's the only thing that actually charges the phone properly.
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Well that is because the charger that comes with the phone is 1 amp, versus the charger say I bought to use in my car is about half an amp. Cause it was meant for older phones. same as using USB. USB will take forever to charge your phone.
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I did every trick in the book to increase battery life in my Droid Charge (bump charge, deleting batterstats.bin etc etc etc) .
I stream audio all day at work from either iheart radio or sirius online & that absolutely KILLS battery life. My Charge would kill a 3500 extended battery before the end of a long work day.
Now, I am getting awesome battery life from the 2750 extended battery on the Rezound. I bought two of the 2750 batteries with the phone as they where only $29 each at the time with the extended back.
I did no tricks at all other than fully charge and let it run down to about 2% a couple times. I have been using this phone the exact same way as the Charge & I have yet to go to the second battery. I stream all day & its still running when I walk in the house at the end of a LONG work day.
~John
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Are you on 4g or 3g? With my extended battery and a full charge my phone will be dead after 10 hrs with hardly any use
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devilsadidas said:
Are you on 4g or 3g? With my extended battery and a full charge my phone will be dead after 10 hrs with hardly any use
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4g.
I'm totally amazed at the battery life I'm getting. The reason I bought two extended batteries was because I figured I needed them.
I have had a ton of phones and not one of them could stream audio for 10hours straight, I don't care what battery you used.
Today, I went to work at around 8 am. I streamed both iheart radio and Sirius radio online for almost the entire day. When I got home around 6 pm it was running on fumes, but it hadn't shut down yet.
If I didn't stream anything it would run for days I think.
~John
I don't understand why I'm getting so much battery life on this phone. It's exceeding expectations. Not that I'm complaining, but my experiences simply are not jiving with the results found by reviews like Engadget's. I have the official extended battery which is 2750MAh, but I had a 35**MAh one for my Droid X and it died faster under the same use. Considering I never lose LTE signal at home/work, and everything I do over it at work is using LTE, I just can't fathom how this MOTHER-F***ING BEAST of an amazing phone lasts like 20% longer on a 30% smaller battery over my Droid X. (I'm not going by the battery life indicator, but purposely letting it die so I know for certain.)
Also, yes, I understand they were using stock battery in the reviews; but I used that the first few days before going back and picking up an extended battery @ half off normal price.
I love this thing, and I love HTC for having a 1% battery indicator on the stock device.
Oh, by the way; should I really plug it in at 15% remaining? I thought you were supposed to let it die when training new battery life?
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I love this thing, and I love HTC for having a 1% battery indicator on the stock device.
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What/where is this 1% indicator?
thunderwolf17 said:
What/where is this 1% indicator?
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Add a battery indicator widget; it goes in 1% increments. I'd LOVE it if you could have it show on the actual indicator on the notification bar, but I haven't found a way to do that; but I keep a battery life indicator on my main home screen, and yeah, 1% increments for the win.
Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
It charges up to 100% then decharge down to 90% and so up again to 100% and it continues like this, to keep the battery as good as possible over a long time.
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I have the same problem. I turned off the phone at 23:00, put to charge, woke up at 07:00, removed from charge and turned on, it was %95. Actually it changes, sometimes %97 sometimes %98. But if i charge it when phone is on it charges to %100 and keep it like that..
On or not the battery will be jumping from ~95% to 100% when left on charge. If you use a battery monitoring app you can see that, even whilst on and charging at 100%, the voltage changes from about 4.2 to 4.1 volts and continually up and down again. This is to increase the battery life because lithium batterys do not like to be kept at 4.2 volts for exessive periods of time.
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Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
MrBelter said:
Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
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When the phone is on, some battery power is used to maintain the screen backlight and the SoC. Therefore the overall battery consumption is higher, thus the system will charge the battery more, but it will actually stay at the same voltage.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
K900 said:
It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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But the point is it doesn't!
Jorgitosms said:
Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
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Right I'll try one more time.
Turned off the phone charges to 95%, no higher and no lower and battery monitor widget can confirm this.
Turned on the phone charges to 100% and remains at 100% without variation until unplugged from the charger and battery monitor can confirm this.
You can see variations in both voltage and current as the charge cycle maintains either the off state 95% charge or the on state 100% charge but in either case the actual level of charge is without fluctuation.
Just picked my phone up from the changer. 99% battery.
I put the phone to charge overnight without turning it off and everyday I wake up at 100%
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Not showing 100% even while left ON and charging
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
Mine charges to 100% and stays at 100%.
mine SXS takes 20 minutes from 99 to 100%.
MrBelter said:
Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
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Under UK generic .75 the phone charges all the way to 100% while off now
iamthad said:
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
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The led turns green at 90%. That's when it slows down charging to protect the battery..
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