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I just straight up went to youtube and launched a Starcraft 2 replay from Husky - played full screen in what (I could swear) 720p - I could see every tiny detail - very, very high res stuff.
Everything's so freaking snappy, just tap - BOOM - it plays.
So, first impressions:
FAST!
Light weight - even my wife said it's very light (and she thinks iPad is way too heavy)
Feels very solid - rubbery back is very pleasant and feels luxurious
Screen is very bright at max setting
Auto-rotate is very fast, I think even more reactive than on my SGS2, even when playing full-screen 720p youtube vid
Screen needs a protector on it - I don't think it's gorilla glass, and by itself it's somewhat hard to move finger on it (it kinda sticks a little). Protector will fix that
Speakers - good quality and loud enough for me
B&N's UI is actually very pleasant - it's very clean, appealing to the eyes.
Can't get to any Android stuff through settings - it's all locked down =)
WiFi works great, good reception
Browser is very fast, I bet you anything it'll be much snappier than Fire's Silk browser
Looks like you can't easily sideload APKs. You can browse to them, but NK doesn't recognize the file.
Very happy I got NT instead of that wimpy little Kindle Fire.. (still adore my eInk kindle though).
Awesome news!!! Keep the info coming
I picked up my 2 hours ago also, here is few first impression i have.
Pro:
- 720p Youtube and Amazon HD video play smoothly, but 1080p on youtube is about 5-10fps
- Screen have warmer color then the Nook Color I have, in comparison NC screen have a slight bluish tint to it.
- Nook Tablet software version 1.4
- Screen is 1 piece glass instead of 2 piece like NC, i agree with DarkDvr, the screen will need a screen protector. 1 piece glass front is slightly better looking then the 2 piece setup on the NC.
- Speaker is louder then the stock NC, but not as loud as NC with the Nook Tweak settings. However good enough for majority of flash videos I tried.
Con:
- I believe the NT is running Froyo 2.2, not a big deal though.
- Flash player version is 10.3, which by itself it not a problem. HOWEVER I notice severe flickering in most of the video i played on youtube and amazon videos. I want to see if anyone else notice this problem with their NT, it might be that i got a defective NT, but when i play the intro NT video, I don't see any flickering. It might be flash player related.
So far I am a little bit underwhelm with the NT, I was hoping for smooth 1080p playback (like my SGS2 with a similar dual core Cortext-A9 processor). Also with the flash video flicker issue, i really having doubts of if i want to keep the NT or not, especially since i already have my NC.
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- 720p Youtube and Amazon HD video play smoothly, but 1080p on youtube is about 5-10fps
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Yeah, cause you're playing 1080p in a browser, and that is a feat only SGS2 can pull off. Try playing an actual 1080p video file in a video player. NK specs (including the back of the NK packaging) shows that it can handle 1080p video. Just not in a browser.
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- I believe the NT is running Froyo 2.2, not a big deal though.
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No-no, it's 2.3 GB. Been confirmed many times.
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HOWEVER I notice very server flickering in most of the video i played on youtube and amazon videos.[/B]
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I never watched amazon videos, but I tried several different videos on youtube in 720p, and there was no flickering at all. I didn't see any issues, it was full fps, fast and screen orientation changed very fast.
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So far I am a little bit underwhelm with the NT, I was hoping for smooth 1080p playback (like my SGS2 with a similar dual core Cortext-A9 processor).
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SGS2 has Exynos monster CPU in it, at least most of them do. NK won't be able to match this SOC's CPU/GPU prowess. But official claims are that it's able to play 1080p video. As I've said above, just not in a browser.
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Also with the flash video flicker issue, i really having doubts of if i want to keep the NT or not, especially since i already have my NC.
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Call tech support, it seems it's your unit..
DarkDvr can you do me a favor? Can you watch this clip from 60 minute Walter Isaacson interview in full screen. and pay especially attention to when it was showing Isaacson speaking, to a static background. On my NT i can clearly see banding and flickering, most video i tried does this, but i think this video is the easiest to make out the flickering and banding issues.
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/23/the-full-walter-isaacsonsteve-jobs-interview-from-60-minutes/
Also if you don't mind Korean girl bands here is another video that show very noticeable flickering right in the intro, especially in 720p resolution
http://youtu.be/5n4V3lGEyG4
If you don't see it then it really might be my unit, and time to trade it in for a different NT unit.
SGS2 has Exynos monster CPU in it, at least most of them do. NK won't be able to match this SOC's CPU/GPU prowess. But official claims are that it's able to play 1080p video. As I've said above, just not in a browser.
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Ya I guess I am spoiled by my SGS2's Exynos processor, but man i had high hopes for the OMAP4's flash video streaming capability.
Also as far as 2.2 vs 2.3, it is nice to have 2.3, hopefully that mean we can upgrade to flash player 11.1 really soon.
I'll check it out at home (no wifi at work and terrible reception).
I'll edit this post with my results.
Edit: Ok, i checked out both videos - watching first one was more painfull the the korean girls. On the first one I had tiny, barely noticable flicker, but I bet anything its cause of the format that video is in, probably NK's hardware is forced to do lots of work during playback.
No flicker at all on korean music video - plays better than on commercials!
Guys, don't worry
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Hi there,
I've recently purchased a Motorola Atrix and was very happy with it, until once upon a time, I came to take a picture and a lot of click / pop sound sounds were emitted from the mobile.
I was a bit scared and immediately opened the back cover to see if it was the battery, but to my surprise it was the camera clicking noise.
The phone was taking pictures fine for the first week and although I noticed some noise, I knew that this was normal as stated in this forum as well.
After that, clicking noise, the camera is not focusing well while taking a picture. It's kinda stuck on Macro and can't focus on distant objects / scenes.
P.S. I 've also tried to keep pressing the shutter button to focus. The square comes green and the image is blurred. So yes, i know how to use the camera.
The preset is not in Macro Mode, I've tried Auto, Landscape, everything I could.
Picture quality also deteriorated. I've tried restarting the mobile, pulling out the battery and clearing the camera cache from the applications. I've also tried a HARD RESET but still the same crappy photos =[ video is also kinda strange as well... And at night, the camera is horrible...
Do you think this is a software or hardware problem?
My Atrix is still stock and it came with Gingerbread 2.3.4
System Version: 45.31.0.MB860.Vodafone.en.EU
Build Number: 4.5.2A-74_OLE-31
Thanks,
Francesco
Attached are the pics ;/
Maybe try to install MIUI camera from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1244829 and try to take some pictures. If they are blurry too then it is hardware. If not then software. Either way I would seriously consider returning it for repair or replacement if you can.
So I just download that and install it? Does it need CFW? or? Thanks!
P.S. I've just tried that camera from MIUI, and still the same problem, I think it must be a hardware problem :/
Bummer. I'm out of ideas.
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I thought I bought a good phone. Guess I hv to return it ;/ Any thoughts if I keep the same phone model or get a replacement with an Lg Optimus 2x? It has an 8mp camera with full hd support and hdmi mirroring out of d box. The only drawback 512mb of ram instead of 1gb and less resolution on screen although lg has an ips display.
P.s. would you recommend any other model with same specs? I would love to get an htc but they're expensive :/.
What do you think about the HTC sensation compared to Atrix?
Thanks!
I would personally get another Atrix, unless I could get one of the new 720p display phones like the Galaxy Nexus or Razr Maxx. The camera and screen on the Atrix aren't the greatest, but overall I think this is a pretty solid phone. I haven't had hands on experience with many other phones though either.
Hmm I see, though if you would opt between an HTC Sensation and the Motorola Atrix, which one would you rather go for as solid OS and performance as well as the durability of the phone?
I also had a pretty bad experience with the Motorola Defy, constant lags and so on on the stock Rom, though it was a really tough phone. Seems Motorola engineers don't quite optimise the OS for the handset ;/ Some also say the camera of the Atrix is able to take better photos but due to the lack of software support it's kind of choppy.
As far as CFW I know a bit or two but am a bit afraid since you void the warranty... And not certain whether you can re-install the original one. Say the screen goes, you now have a jacket potato in your hand haha
it looks as if you have your camera set to macro
I've used all of the image settings, Auto, Portrait etc, and I'm sure I know how to use a mobile camera as I also have an SLR camera.
I also keep touching the shutter button so that it automatically focuses, I've even moved the focus point and tried using the autofocus by keeping pressing the shutter button. Same result unfortunately ;/
Try downloading another camera app off the market, anything at all will do and see if the problem persists. If it does then it may be worth sending it in with a broken camera. My camera makes the odd whirr when it focuses but no clicks or pops.
I did, I've tried about 2, the MIUI camera and the CameraFX one, same result, seems the autofocus motor is stuck on macro ;/
Yeah, I have the exact same issue on my Bell Atrix 4G that I bought used a while ago. Was working fine until recently.
Here's what I found, I tried the MIUI camera, and whenever you tap the screen it is supposed to turn on the LED and focus the camera.
First off It didn't work, then I smacked the phone against my leg, and after that it started working, definitely flaky hardware in the camera.
This and the flaky SD card trigger are both issues I would definitely be contacting Motorola about if my phone was under warranty.
Overall the phone is pretty solid, and running CM 7.2.0 RC3 has made me very happy with the phone again.
Oh well, maybe just have to put up with it until I get the Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yep, it actually was stuck, got it refunded as I am planning on getting the One S or something like that, since the Galaxy S 3 or One X would be too big and I wouldn't want to drop such phones ;/
I might try ordering a replacement camera off the internet since the Atrix 4G is supposedly one of the easiest phones to fix yourself.
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I bought 3 notes on sunday, one for myself, my wife and my dad, so I noticed that gray banding and pixelation when playing certain videos. So I set all 3 phones to the same Vevo video (kanye west and jay z) and its a good video to try cause it has lots of black and gray,same brightness on all phones and everything else the same,,,,and bam both my wifes and dads phone it was non existent and mine was a disaster......I couldnt whip out the box and receipt fast enough. Gonna swap it for another and hopefully all will be ok.......I wouldnt have known unless I had those other phones to directly compare, so to all of you out there maybe you need to swap yours as well.....
Can you provide a source and name for the video?
Not sure I know what you mean by source, but I downloaded the Vevo app which plays music videos at High Quality and the vid "N***** in Paris" by Kanye/Jay -Z set to high quality, brightness set to 50 percent. You could see banding on the right side during the very first few seconds of the vid and then on the bottom along the main part.....the bottom of the screen became all pixelated with the very deep blacks on my phone and the 2 others next to mine were fine.....
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He is seeing the same thing I've been seeing and trying to explain.
Here is my source go to veetle.com, and scroll down to a movie channel, one called movies 2012 or something like that. And make it full screen and watch carefully at the dark areas. It is definite banding but I think all the note displays will do this for now but the user is saying the other 2 phones arent doing this. I have a new one waiting for me tomorrow that I will compare this note with to see, hopefully the one I get tomorrow doesnt do this as thats the one I'm keeping for now.
Yep exactly, my wifes phone and dads werent doing it, my phone was atrocious, so I am gonna bring it back and exchange it. Luckily I had to to sit with and make sure all the setting were the same and play things at the same exact time.
That vevo app stinks for me though. Try watching the same video on youtube with hq selected, will probably look better. Yea for me looks much better on youtube, which vevo posted btw. I see minor banding and macroblocking but for a video that warns you about causing possible seizures lol thats minor stuff or expected on the display.
irregardless of where I watch it though why would my wifes phone and my dads look perfect under then same exact conditions on the same app?.....thats the reason why I am exchanging mine.
hey check this video i just made it i play the video you say but on browser on youtube desktop mode not mobile on 720 p http://youtu.be/gTxi_pOzNxA
plays like a charm for me vevo and youtube app plays the videos not so clear so test directly on browser using flash
I am thinking about returning mine after seeing u r post.
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irregardless of where I watch it though why would my wifes phone and my dads look perfect under then same exact conditions on the same app?.....thats the reason why I am exchanging mine.
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One or two settings must have been different.
Check the auto-power LCD settings, screen mode, power savings settings, etc.
While it's true that each screen is calibrated slightly different, the difference should not be so huge. I would imagine that the calibration is relatively identical across the screens or within a certain standard of error.
Also,l I would suggest you try and record all three in action to get a more objective view as I would imagine trying to simultaneously analyze 3 5.3" screens to be fairly difficult and might be subject to bias, etc.
DId you install other apps as well? Screen adjuster, etc?
The higher the base-brightness, the better the appearance of a temporary "band-aid" fix as it masks the problem by not having the phone attempt to render to lower black levels.
I think its the video. It's very pixelated. The more detail and shifting images on the screen per second, the more the compression is noticeable.
I would suggesting downloading a 720p video and test your screen then.
Absolutely everything about all 3 phones was exact....playing the same video....same screen settings....everything identical.....which is why I know my phone is having some problem with pixelation......at least until I exchange it tomorrow.....8)
There must be a newer codec or something on some of the phones. Heres my experience, Right at the begining scene where it says Kanye and the Jay, with people dancing in the letters on a black background.
1) Dolphin Browser-Declined to open in youtube, hit full screen within the embeded video. Put it up to 1080p, video studders and the black is greyish and to the right of the word JAY banding and bleeding.
2) Went to Vevo website(In dolphin), no way to pick video setting, same grey/banging and bleeding to the right.
3) Went to Vevo website in stock browser. Video choppy and froze phone.
4) Downloaded vevo app. Put on High quality still banding.
5)Loaded 1080p in native Youtube app, perfect Blacks and NO BANDING or BLEEDING!
Doesnt look that great on my 23"lcd either!
Whats the deal here guys? Sounds like the browers either have older codec that dont work so well with HQ video(they were studdering, lots of macroblocking) and th eYoutube app has newer ones as it plays silky smooth.
THough ive noticed with alot of the video on the web on this fone, maybe its because its mobile versions, the quality ranges dramatically. It may be that we have such a high res, the videos look worse than they would on most 800x400 android phones.
Most the videos have to be compressed anyway, even the video in the YT app had some slight macrobocking.
Now the one you returned, was the screen on the yellowish white and saturated red side? My whites are "warm" as opposed to "cool", save for some viewing angles. Turning up the brightness makes red too saturated, the mario brothers vs wright bros they look red/orange on full brighness, even on lowest still more than I would like.
I know every phone is diff. I had got a replacement Sayno and my whites went from cool to warm, same phone. Also, some people dont know how to shoot video, compress it or just have bad equipment or taste in editing.
hmm
How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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I think he's talking about the browser YouTube. It has 480/720/1080..
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I think he's talking about the browser YouTube. It has 480/720/1080..
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Thanks, that makes much more sense. I ended up testing that same video in 720P on the browser YouTube and the difference is night & day compared to the YouTube app's HQ version. Browser YouTube shows the video crystal clear!
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How exactly did you load 1080P in the YouTube app? I must be missing something because my only options for that particular music video are HQ and nonHQ. Please share with an admitted Android noob.
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Just download TubeMate from the Amazon app store. You can download and save any YouTube clip you want in the highest format possible. When I downloaded some 1980p and 720p videos I didn't notice any weird distortion etc.
I had a similar issue the other day, and after reading this thread I decided to load up the video I had the problem with. The video was the latest Game of Thrones season 2 trailer, it has alot of light and dark areas with alot of shades of gray moving around.
So two days ago the video was unwatchable, and now it looks fine. I wish I knew what was going on. I'm off to work now, tonight I will investigate further, play with some settings etc.
I downloaded the jay z kanye video using tubemate and it still showed blocking when watched in dark room.
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How can you tell if your phone does this? Can someone explain to me what it looks like
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Ok guys, my friend's Note 10.1 got in a bootloop and he asked me to fix it for him, as it will be with me for a few days and I've already fixed it I decided to do a comparison, feel free to ask for my opinion on things I don't mention.
First off I guess I'll start with the ports
On the left side there's nothing on the Note while on our Nexus we have the Micro USB port and the 3.5mm headphone jack, on the right side we have the micro HDMI out, the note doesn't have anything on this side either.
At the bottom we find the pogo charger on the N10 and the charger/USB/MHL port in the Note, the S Pen is located in the right bottom corner, there's a Mic located at the bottom in both of them.
At the top we find the volume rocker and the power/lock key while on the Note we find those along with an IR blaster and a Holy Micro SD card slot (god damn it google)
It's also worth noting that the Note doesn't have NFC.
This is subjective but the tacky back and sides of the Nexus make it far easier to hold and it feels solider., the glossy back on the Note doesn't feel nearly as bad as I thought it would.
The speakers
I didn't think I would write anything about these but after some use I noticed the speakers on the Note sound better, this must be thanks to Samsung's tuning, as I'm almost completely sure these devices share the same hardwarein this area, perhaps we can copy it?
Oh and by the way the Note has different sound profiles on the video player and Music app, all of them sound better but this isn't limited to these apps, the difference is found across all apps, launch Youtube or third party music players and you'll notice it.
I'll talk about the performance without bringing the benchmarks here as you can find those everywhere else, for this test I´ll be comparing my sister's N10 (which isn't rooted and is completely stock) with the stock Note.
The Note is running 4.1.2 while my sister's N10 is running 4.2.2, I'll start by clearing all recents and closing everything with the task manager on the Note
Scrolling across the homescreens and the app drawer is really smooth on both however there are micro lags on the Note - Disregard that, I had one update left and wehn I did it it got rid of the micro lags while this doesn't happen on the Nexus, I suspect this is the launcher's fault tough.
Launching apps happens at pretty much the exact same time most o the time, the Nexus is faster by fraction of a second some times.
The note does have more free RAM all of the time as it's GPU doesn't need as much of it as the on the N10, It can use as much as 1.78gbs of it while we can only use 1.2gbs
For the browser comparison I'll be using chrome beta on both, all browsing data has been cleared. I can compare the AOSP browser performance but I'd have to use my N10.
I'll just say that the sites load faster the Nexus, after that the browser experience is pretty much the same until you pinch to zoom which brings us to the screen section.
Edit: The S Pen is really useful when browsing as it can act as a mouse when you hover on website dropdown menus and the like.
The screens
This is probably where the biggest differences can be seen (as long as we don't talk about touchwiz), coming from the Nexus 10 you'll inmediately see the jagginess and lack of detail every f*cking where in the Note, from HD videos to text to images, sadly, this is the only thing the Nexus has going for it in the screen department.
The Note has a MUCH, MUCH better color reproduction, the next time I get my hands on my dad's iPad 3 I'll update this to tell you about a comparison between those 2 screens, I think the iPad looks better though.
Not only that but Samsung has also provided it with color modes which are a good thing to have, black levels between the N10 and the Note are comparable they are maybe a little darker in the note HOWEVER I've noticed the Nexus has a better black level (I believe that's how it's called, for reference go here www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php) The note has trouble with the darker tones.
The screen on the note is far far more responsive than the one in the Nexus I beleieve this is a software issues icause on purpose in the Nexus, do the following:
Open the your favorite broswer and make your thumb and index finger touch each other as when you prepare to pinch to zoom, now, with both fingers together start the pinch gesture, you'll notice how the Nexus will NOT begin to pinch to zoom until your fingers are about 1/3" apart from each other, This isn't a hardware issue as if you enable the show touches option in developer setting yo ucan see the device is registering both of them.
Now download and install the Quickpic gallery app from the Play store and pinch to zoom the same way in there, you'll see how that app behaves, the is the way the Note/HP Touchpad/iPad behave when you pinch to zoom in them.
Edit: I forgot to mention that the Note doesn't have any kind of backlight bleed.
The camera
Well, while the Samsung camera app offers many more options than the stock 4.2 camera.for some reason it takes longer to focus and the pictures are NEVER even close to the quality the N10 offers, the pictures are just terrible, I think this is the same sensor as the one in the N10 but for some reason the pictures are full of noise and lack detail.
The front facing camera is just as good as the one in the N10, Hell, I think it's better than the rear facing one, and like in the Nexus, it's one of the best front facing cameras I've seen. (It's miles ahead of the iPad)
Well, that's all I can think of at the moment, feel free to ask about other differences.
Have you done any gaming on the note 10.1? I am especially interested in hearing about heavy games like MC4 or so as sometimes my N10 lags during gameplay for MC4. It is however pretty smooth on other games like Nova 3 and asphalt 7 with gorgeous graphics.
Thanks in advance if you consider this.
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What about the battery life? I am really curious about this question.
Sometimes the nexus 10 has some laggs while using the chrome browser.
I also miss the 3g modul in the n10
The battery on the Nexus is a bit better (my sister has a lot of battery sucking apps though, and I'm UV'ed in my Nexus so I won't use it to compare it with the Note) I have yet to try any heavy games, I'll run NFSMW later today after I flash the Note as it went back to the damn bug even after the ODIN restore.
Don't use Chrome... Use the stock browser or Boat browser.
No lags, delays, anything - pinch to zoom is ultrasmooth and pages load fast.
I get the feeling that people experiencing lags or sluggish behavior are running a ton of un-optimized widgets, because I never had any problems and my benchmark results are stupidly high compared to anything else.
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Don't use Chrome... Use the stock browser or Boat browser.
No lags, delays, anything - pinch to zoom is ultrasmooth and pages load fast.
I get the feeling that people experiencing lags or sluggish behavior are running a ton of un-optimized widgets, because I never had any problems and my benchmark results are stupidly high compared to anything else.
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I actually had the note 10.1 before i got the nexus 10. It was the white version and boy was she pretty. Just a little too much plastic for my taste. The screen was gorgeous! With all honesty I enjoy it a little better then the nexus 10 screen. I guess I'm a rich color type of guy. The downside of the things was the fact I felt the screen was built for the s pen using only. Every time I tried to swipe across a application it would open that app up if I wasn't using the s-pen. It got to the point where it was unbearable to use. So I got the nexus 10 And been loving this beast every since. I love the feel of the tablet, the front speakers are nice and the most important reason why I fell in love with this thing. Stock android and The SPEED!!!! The speed is the fastest i seen on any android devices and i had them all. Also the camera is one of the best you can find on a tablet.
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I actually had the note 10.1 before i got the nexus 10. It was the white version and boy was she pretty. Just a little too much plastic for my taste. The screen was gorgeous! With all honesty I enjoy it a little better then the nexus 10 screen. I guess I'm a rich color type of guy. The downside of the things was the fact I felt the screen was built for the s pen using only. Every time I tried to swipe across a application it would open that app up if I wasn't using the s-pen. It got to the point where it was unbearable to use. So I got the nexus 10 And been loving this beast every since. I love the feel of the tablet, the front speakers are nice and the most important reason why I fell in love with this thing. Stock android and The SPEED!!!! The speed is the fastest i seen on any android devices and i had them all. Also the camera is one of the best you can find on a tablet.
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You say the screen was better on the Note?? I just returned the note because I couldn't stand reading text on it, it was just too fuzzy for my tired old eyes. I was assuming the Nexus would be better being that it has a higher resolution. I guess I'll have to make a Staples run and see if they have the Nexus' in stock and see for myself.
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You say the screen was better on the Note?? I just returned the note because I couldn't stand reading text on it, it was just too fuzzy for my tired old eyes. I was assuming the Nexus would be better being that it has a higher resolution. I guess I'll have to make a Staples run and see if they have the Nexus' in stock and see for myself.
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He meant color wise, the screen on the Nexus I'd the shapest one you'll find on any tablet, reading on it is great but whoever calibrated it crippled it on purpose.
The N10 is sharp and you will have no problems as far as reading text on it.
Note port?
So I love my Nexus 10, but I was wondering if anyone has tought of porting the Note 10.1 ROM to the Nexus? I just need a little more productivity from this tablet. Plus the stock browser is faster than the chrome.
my nexus 10 also has the hdmi slot.. why the note 10,1 uses a samsung dongle.. like a apple type variant.. only samsung approved
Hello there,
After much inquiry, I've become undecided about this phone. I have been looking for a 4.7-5in phone with a good and snappy camera, battery, USA bands, and micro sd support, and the z5 compact seems to fit the bill. However, I keep reading problems about this device mainly concerning its software and camera. I really like the device given all it has to offer but I'm just not inclined to dish out $500+ on a device that has a problematic camera i.e. blurred edges caused by software or hardware, no warranty (here in the USA), over-heating, sony ui, etc. I currently have an LG G4 which absolutely meets my needs but like I said, I'm looking for a smaller phone for traveling and one hand handling.
So my question for those who own the Z5c, is it really THAT bad and will the firmware update fix the purported problems of this device? I'm concerned about the blurry edges being a hardware issue and perhaps Sony is just covering their tracks by saying that an "update" will fix that problem. If you have updated your device, could you post a sample of the fixed camera or at least let us know here?
Really appreciate your time and input!
Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
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Coming from the z1 compact and z3 compact, although I loved those phones I did find the camera sub par, and the external speaker volume too low and muffled, the front and back screens were finger print magnets and easily scratched.
But I love the compact series and put my hope and money back into the z5-compact.
Had mine for 2 weeks now (Arctic white) and I love the new design, the no finger print frosted rear glass and the front screen also just doesn't seem to attract finger prints either!, improved and much louder external speakers, the camera has improved dramatically. I have none of the reported issues of blurred edges, slow camera opening etc it's all good. Oh and the fingerprint scanner is awesome!
I love this phone to death it's perfect in my eyes. It will be hard to part with this when it comes time to upgrade to the z6 compact ☺
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Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
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Notchr302 said:
Does the software seem good and fast? No stutters or lag?
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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There were stutters and lags, but since the last update they all are gone.
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I'm so confused because some say there is still lag after the update. Ugh lol
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I am one of those who would say that the lags are gone after the update. And whatever that guy said, I agree wholeheartedly. This phone is a beast. I also come from a Z3 Compact and I am loving the Z5c. Especially the camera
It was a little stuttery straight out of the box but I downloaded Sony PC companion (just googled it) and then downloaded the latest firmware 32.0.A.6.152 (it took a couple of hours, which by all reports is normal) then updated my phone.
Happy to report it is buttery smooth with no stutters or lags all super fast.
Interesting to see that the pre installed photo analyzer app (Sony) which was reportedly causing some lag, had disappeared in the latest firmware.
I hope this has helped you with your decision.
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Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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Do you still have the blurry edges or has it been fixed?
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99% sure it's good. You be the judge. Just a quick picture, tried to place items on every edge/corner.
I'm sitting at the park, it's dusk and a little cloudy. No flash, superior auto, 8mp.
I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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I've had the Z5C for a week now and I can't comment too much on certain details because this is my very first Android phone - I am coming straight from a Nokia 808. The phone is compact, slick-looking, seems incredibly fast to me and I am liking the Android experience as a whole, although a few things Symbian had were simpler and more elegant (changing phone profiles, searching for contacts under phone, for instance).
The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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What are your thoughts on the quick photo I posted? All standard settings in quite average light? Do you see any of the issues you are experiencing on your phone?
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For the resolution posted, I dont see any issues. What I see on my photos is some sort of sharpening which causes details to be lost when zooming in. And believe me, I am not even remotely pixel-peeking, just basic cropping for creative purposes.
I'll try to post some sample photos to illustrate what I am facing here.
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The one issue I have, and that is a big one and it is so big of an issue that I registered today on XDA to ask for help, is the extremely poor photo/camera quality. I cannot understand what is going on here. This is a $600 2015 brand new release phone. Something must be wrong either with the software or hardware on my phone, which sucks since I purchased it for US operation (no warranty). I do not know how to express in words how disappointed I am with the camera. Let's just say that my 2012 Nokia 808 takes photos comparable to my SLR system. I was expecting at least equivalent photo quality from a modern/newer phone.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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If you haven't already, you might want to check the main Xperia Z5 subforum about this issue, specifically this thread where they talk about the camera, and the best settings for particular lighting. It could be you have a defective camera though, and if so, I feel for ya since I also imported my device.
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Exactly how my photos look like! Thanks for linking me to this thread, even though what I learned from it is not exactly great news!
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Same problem for me. It's a very expansive phone and you have to read pages of forums to understand how to make the most of it.
But still, the camera to me is a complete disaster. The app is cheap, very laggy, menus are terrible and the most improtant part, it takes poor photos.
Oversharpened and zooming in a tiny bit on a 23Mp pictures is just horrible.
The photo shared a few post back in the park is just awful too, sorry bro no offense, but it's not a defective camera it's just what is sold.
When you come from other brands, you are automatically disapointed.
P.S. videos are quite amazing though, especially in 60fps and the management of the edit app of videos is very good too.
I just switched to the nexus 5X, and there are no comparaison. Much much simpler, you don't need to test every little setting to take a good pic and zooming in is incredible, the best.
Yet I really loved the compact shape and overall build quality of the z5 device.
Comments non related to the camera is : the system is quite good as it is very similar to stock android but a little disappointed too by the performance.
I don't speak about lags and everything as it is quite fluid, but it just takes time to open or reload apps compared to my other devices.
I am still keeping the device to see if there will be improvement (there should be a major camera app update this month) but i don't believe in miracles, i don't think that will solve the pictures quality.
If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market. It's interesting to me how polarizing the camera is for people though. People either think it's the second coming, or the antichrist. I imagine that the improvements to the software promised with the Marshmallow update will go a long way to getting a lot of naysayers to give it a second look.
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If you know how to use it (8mp at SA for darker scenarios, 23mp manual for bright daylight) it's been reviewed in a number of places as the best camera currently on the market.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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That is a very interesting perspective on the topic; so basically it boils down to misuse by users! And I suspect this is from someone that has never even tried the phone!
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No, it's certainly been by those who've tried the phone. By the looks of it you didn't get too far into that thread I previously recommended, but Timaustin2000 and a few others in that thread really turned the tone around with their investigations on the ability of the camera, and comparison shots. They've even had an influential effect on reviewers. So for instance, it wasn't till TimAustin pointed out to the reviewers at Android Authority that they were crippling the phone by using the 23mp in low light scenarios that they took into consideration the supersampling of the 8mp default settings. From there a number of other reviewers, bloggers, vloggers, and the like took a second look at the camera in the phone and tested appropriately with often very very positive results (many of these reviews and videos are also mentioned in that thread).
Let me propose the exact opposite, and I suspect a portion (if not majority) of people complaining about the imaging performance on these Z5 phones are actually far from amateur photographers and do understand what is achievable and should be expected in terms o quality. There is no way to slice this or put a twist on it, and I don't care about DXO ratings.
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From the recent reviews that I've been reading and watching, that doesn't appear to be the case, but of course, you're free to come to your own conclusions.
Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Haven't had much experience with the Z5C camera yet, only had it for a week.
But one thing, it takes so long to open. This is my 1St Android phone, been an ios user for around 4.5 years & the iPhones were just easier to access their camera. Slide up, click camera & it opened. On the Z5C, you press & hold the camera button, feel it vibrate, let it go... & wait.
After a second or so, the screen goes black, then the camera opens, then the screen starts to set itself up.
Just tried then & it was around 4 seconds.
I love the phone so far, but it seems to really struggle with normal usage.
By normal usage, for me, I mean it lags. Playing YouTube videos, it lags, I'm in Oz & we have an online streaming movie/TV service called Stan.... It doesn't work on the Z5.
Switching between tasks can give the phone a heart attack. For example, I was playing Clash Of Clans & some one tried to call me, the box popped down, I clicked answer & nothing happened.
I clicked answer two or three more times, before clicking back to the home screen, the phone call went to message bank while my phone locked up, went black & I had to wait around 30 seconds for it to sort itself out.
Even typing this it lags every now & then.
8 Ball Pool is laggy... If messages pop while playing, it gets even worse.
I do love the phone, I am enjoying Android (I miss a few ios advantages), but I just wish that the phone didn't feel like it was made with enough Ram to run the OS & one app at a time.
Oh... The audio is quiet, it doesn't go as loud as my iPhone 4 did, with my Bose head set & it lacks the same bass, but does sound alright.
The included Sony ear plugs are uncomfortable, have no sound advantages, have annoying different length ear cords & no volume control.
No supplied quick charger.
The back of the phone tends to get quite hot.
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Previous iPhone only user here too. Have you updated to the latest firmware? My camera takes about 2 seconds to come up pressing the side button since the update. Further improvements are expected with the Marshmallow update.
Also, I have no lag since the latest firmware, but I'm also using the Nova Launcher which you can get for free in the Play Store (not sure if that makes any difference or not).
I also have a problem with the volume, especially from the front speakers. Thought having two speakers instead of one, as I did on my iPhone 2G, 3G, 4S. and 6S would make it louder, but it's not. Still, honestly, I don't find it much quieter than those devices either. the 6S was maybe a tick louder, but not by much. I still want more punch from the front speakers, and I'm hoping that's something I can fix by doing some sort of ROM tweak. If not, I suppose I can live with it, but its the biggest disappointment about the device for me, not because its so much quieter than my iPhone devices, but because it doesn't stand head and shoulders above them.
I don't know about you, but my Sony ear plugs are way way wayyyyy more comfortable than my iPhone headphones. In fact, they're the most comfortable in-ear headphones I've ever worn. The different length on the cords I don't really have much issue with, since I usually drape the longest cord behind my head to my right ear (which is how I'm assuming they're meant to be worn). I will admit that they seem slightly cheap-ish, and I was hoping that where the volume button was (which I DO have on my pair) also had a mic so I could answer in-coming calls, but overall, I think they're pretty okay. Again, they're much more comfortable than the headphones that came with my iPhones. As far as loudness in the headphones is concerned, they're loud enough, but I definitely wouldn't mind if they were louder. I'll probably end up getting some sort of thin amp/dac like the dragonfly or the Aqua to boost the volume. Shame I have to do that, but oh well.
Again, its interesting to me how varied people's reactions are to this device. I'm FAR more happier with this device than I am my previous iPhones. Its not perfect, but it hits so many of the checkboxes for me that its hard to complain.
Edit: Oh, also, I got a quick charger with my device, but I bought the Taiwan version, so maybe that accounts for the difference in headphones and charger.
Lastly, after the initial setup, and especially after the update, my phone doesn't get very hot. Maybe I'm not using the same intensive programs that you are, though. The phone gets a little warm with Candy Crush and Asphalt 8, but my iPhone 6S also got pretty hot just using the camera (which is something my mother noticed when I handed her the phone to see some pictures).