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I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Go for the sensation. I have a galaxy s two and the amaze and the dev community is almost non existent. Had a sensation and they got lots of stuff over there.
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Hello, I am new to the forum but do have the HTC Amaze 4G. While HTC does provide the tools for unlocking the bootloader, they do not allow for S-OFF (Security OFF). And it is because of this (for the most part) that developing for the HTC Amaze is limited ATM.
mrmylanman said:
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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the amaze is not for u then.
mrmylanman said:
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Temp - hopefully.
Dev support - we only have one developer that actually has the phone. To top it off he's only 16 and still in high school.
We have the source but not the entire kernel source (thanks to HTC and their technicalities)
Still don't have s-off so we can't flash kernels via recovery thus makes flashing roms that much more difficult.
So if you want a good phone to use as a daily driver and don't care about tweaking and boosting... this is the phone for you!
If you immediately want fully working ICS, Sense 3.5, CM9, AOSP, etc then go with another device.
Do we see this happening in the future? If more developers were to pickup the device then maybe. But not anytime soon.
Bottom line if you want a device that has a HUGE selection of roms that you can do pretty much anything with... this isn't the phone for you. Not yet anyway.
Anyone know if there's any word on whether S-Off is coming? I thought I heard HTC announcing the days of S-On being forced are over.
I'd rather get the better phone. Hope that dev support comes.
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Agreed with Binary.
From what you've posted this doesn't sound like the phone that will suit you. However, in the long-run it could suit you better maybe?
I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
Thanks for the responses. I think I am going to go with the Amaze after all, and deal with Sense. Apparently it'll get ICS at some point regardless, which will be nice. I am pretty good with Linux so I might work on my own development if I get some free time (going back to college to finish up my bachelors degree so I'm not so sure about that part).
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I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
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I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
If you stick with the Amaze then try beast, its pretty damn close to AOSP, or at least as close as we can have for now
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I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
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This is the first phone where I had to use the htc unlocking method and am SHOCKED that is not as open as they made it out to be. Keeping s on? What the hell was the point then? I can see where it would benefit developers, but as far as supporting xda type communities, its an epic fail while giving us false hope in all those press releases how they "heard" the enthusiast community and wanted to be more open.
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i hated always have 150mb of RAM or lower, but your ns4g has 2xxmb less so you are probably used to it.
Yeah I have been less of an enthusiast lately since the dev community sorta dried up on the NS4G the past couple weeks.
Its fine. I have less free time now than I used to anyway
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well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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as borat would say:
high five!!!! i like!!!
xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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hahaha
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xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
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Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
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That would be because he's the only developer that has the phone.
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if you dont know who mdeejay is look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2754407
he is an amazing dev
ill update more on him later
but show some love, im thinking of making some sort of bounty to get him the Device
He got Sense 4 working on various devices
Please leave some feedback if you want him here
I tried contacting him before. I never got a response.
These are all threads started by mdeejay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=27093095
As you can see he's an awesome developer. We need someone like this in the Amaze forums.
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I tried contacting him before. I never got a response.
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Not if we flood him with request, he is sure to respond
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If he is actually wanting to work on the amaze I'd be glad to donate, mdeejay does great stuff used his stuff on the sensation. This is a dev I would love to get the device to if he is actually wanting to work on the amaze and own a device. Kinda sucks right now to get a device for someone at this moment with newer devices coming out it seems like most devs want to move on to those newer devices. It'd be awesome to have a dev who would actually want to own and use an amaze. Back when I was on the galaxy s2 forum they got Eugene373 a phone and because he was gonna use it as his phone he ended up bringing them so much great roms. To throw a device into a devs hands who is just willing to work on a couple roms for us, is kind of a shakey idea on one side its great and appreciated that they wanna help the amaze community out on the other hand they got lives and their preferred devices so you never know how long they will be willing to help out for.
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If we can get him here, that would be awesome and I am willing to help. The more the merrier
Any luck with this, has he expressed any desire picking up our device?
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He already said he would not work on a phone he doesn't have, also he is not noob friendly all his threads have the noon xda video on the bottom. Lmao.
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Kinda sucks right now to get a device for someone at this moment with newer devices coming out it seems like most devs want to move on to those newer devices.
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I would argue the quoted part above - our device still isn't even remotely obsolete. I was at a tmobile yesterday with a guy who works there who owned an amaze previously, but they gave him a htc one.. he isn't impressed. It is slimmer, and it includes beats - but otherwise it is the same phone without being able to access battery or have a microSD.
Sure, the international version is quad-core, but the newest phones in the US haven't made any attempt at pushing hardware specs-- we are still good competition.
There are a ton of devs that are still developing for devices that are definitely inferior to ours spec wise, that alone is a very big factor.. if they use our phone, they will fall in love(or they have bad taste!)
Silentbtdeadly said:
I would argue the quoted part above - our device still isn't even remotely obsolete. I was at a tmobile yesterday with a guy who works there who owned an amaze previously, but they gave him a htc one.. he isn't impressed. It is slimmer, and it includes beats - but otherwise it is the same phone without being able to access battery or have a microSD.
Sure, the international version is quad-core, but the newest phones in the US haven't made any attempt at pushing hardware specs-- we are still good competition.
There are a ton of devs that are still developing for devices that are definitely inferior to ours spec wise, that alone is a very big factor.. if they use our phone, they will fall in love(or they have bad taste!)
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Well I partially agree with you, its not so much that the amaze is a bad device, its not behind the curve nor is it stale, however, the newer devices are easier to dev for from looking at the one s and one x even with no kernel source they are farther along. I love the amaze and I don't see anything compelling enough to upgrade to anytime soon. With that being said the amaze is no walk in the park to dev for, with missing drivers its already a not so easy phone to deal with, I truly hope if mdeejay or any developer that gets our device for that matter likes it the way owners of it do so that they can see a reason to get it beyond just helping us.
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ebatr8 said:
Well I partially agree with you, its not so much that the amaze is a bad device, its not behind the curve nor is it stale, however, the newer devices are easier to dev for from looking at the one s and one x even with no kernel source they are farther along. I love the amaze and I don't see anything compelling enough to upgrade to anytime soon. With that being said the amaze is no walk in the park to dev for, with missing drivers its already a not so easy phone to deal with, I truly hope if mdeejay or any developer that gets our device for that matter likes it the way owners of it do so that they can see a reason to get it beyond just helping us.
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The one series have kernel source
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EclipzeRemix said:
The one series have kernel source
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Yep, you beat me to it http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
I know we will get source, but with only a week or so since the OFFICIAL OTA ICS, it may not be quite yet.. but we will get it, then it is ON.
Hey, and I like your edit framework.jar slides from earlier..
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The one series have kernel source
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Oh didn't know that, I have a one s but don't personally use it hopefully we see a new dev here soon.
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Well this got sidetracked...
Bring Mdeejay over here
The more the merrier
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Lol you would glacier haha
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Hm... we're working on another person too so keep your fingers crossed
When I had an Iconia I used his ROMs and they were pretty good. He helped out when he could. I would like to see more developers here too, but until we have a complete source code we not be left to rust. I'm grateful for all the support right now but we only have one custom kernel.
EclipzeRemix said:
if you dont know who mdeejay is look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2754407
he is an amazing dev
ill update more on him later
but show some love, im thinking of making some sort of bounty to get him the Device
He got Sense 4 working on various devices
Please leave some feedback if you want him here
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Do you have any replies from him yet?
If we get an official response from mdeejay we can get the ball rolling on this.
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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+1
Both are correct. It doesn't really help sense based Roms because sense kernels are going to be newer than source.
However, aosp roms can now be fully functional. Aosp is what many people on here care about and are waiting for.
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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Rippley05 said:
It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It still might, but I think I'm still somewhat jaded by the og evo and the support it had. The 3D never really had much, and it's looking like the lte is gonna be around the same.
I do think we'll eventually get some aosp goodness, just isn't hopping like I hoped it would be. I don't mean this as a slight to the devs we do have because they are great, all of them.
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
SoraX64 said:
It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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We just need the support of the big guys. For some reason it feels like most of the big time devs haven't moved on to this phone yet, or went with Samsung instead. I know that Preludedrew is working on JB for our phone, I talked to him about it yesterday on Gtalk. Deck mentioned in IRC that he was working on it as well, I believe.
The kernel developers are hiding so far, probably because we don't have the big guys working for us yet. I'd love to see a Tiamat kernel, even if I'm personally not a fan of custom kernels.
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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Rxpert said:
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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I've been seeing this all over, but I can access the site and perform downloads just fine.
There's is (are) custom kernels out
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
fpineda101 said:
I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I always used custom kernels with EVO 4G and remember zero reboots due to kernel issues . Easy overclocking and underclocking, volume mods, performance increases while still improving battery life... Yes please!
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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shook187 said:
So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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Rxpert said:
We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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Rxpert said:
We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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+1 on that. Seems like the other guy isn't to bright seeing as this phone is only a little over a month old
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PsiPhiDan said:
I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Rxpert said:
And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Oh I know that, and I no way meant to say the devs aren't doing great work. I just wanted to explain why he said there were not a lot of ROMs right now. I understand that statement, although there is plenty of reason for why that is.
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First I want to thank all the crew working on the Super JELLY ROM. Your attention to detail is making this the best ROM I've ever used and I've used quite a few.
I have a question to throw out to whoever has the answer. One of the things I miss most with my update to Jelly Bean is the Quick settings tab in the notification dropdown window.
Are Quick Settings just gone forever with JB, or will there be a Mod for it someday?
I know Super JELLY has something like it as an option is settings, but I just liked the old school one.
From what I've read, the code that allowed enabling that has been removed by Google/Android.
Edit: wait, maybe HTC removed it. I don't use sense, but on AOSP, I have the same toggles that have existed since froyo (or maybe it was GB, I forgot). Just abandon sense, android is much better on the AOSP side.
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Truth...
Look man, the evo is a great phone. However, if you plan on having a broad source for development forget about it. This phone is and has been coming up short with custom offerings. Sorry. Because I once loved this phone, but there is nothing here happening for it.
HTC removed them. Started with our last OTA actually as we saw the ATT OneX have quick settings in their OTA, and then when it came to the EVO getting theirs it was removed... Personally thought that this was a sprint thing since other One series had it but now with the JB OTA rolling to all devices now it shows it was an HTC decision as its now gone from all of them...
Maybe they have something in the works for that area, or there are other plans in place for something else completely new?...
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frontlyna said:
Look man, the evo is a great phone. However, if you plan on having a broad source for development forget about it. This phone is and has been coming up short with custom offerings. Sorry. Because I once loved this phone, but there is nothing here happening for it.
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Development lacking?....
I'd rather have a handful of top notch work, then a ton of average work, in my opinion...
"...coming up short..." ??????
What exactly are you missing out on that's somewhere else currently???
I'm sorry but this kind of stuff here is what's wrong here! People that want to sit back and complain in ANY way about development should move on and leave... This is a development site, if you are not going get off your own butt and try to learn yourself and HELP then you best not utter a peep complaining about development!!!
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sgt. slaughter said:
Development lacking?....
I'd rather have a handful of top notch work, then a ton of average work, in my opinion...
"...coming up short..." ??????
What exactly are you missing out on that's somewhere else currently???
I'm sorry but this kind of stuff here is what's wrong here! People that want to sit back and complain in ANY way about development should move on and leave... This is a development site, if you are not going get off your own butt and try to learn yourself and HELP then you best not utter a peep complaining about development!!!
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CM10.1, MIUI w/4g, SlimRom Official, JB kernels w/ active governors, updates from DEVS consistently, mostly regarding AOSP roms.. but thats just a few..Sorry if what I wrote as opinion bothered you or anyone else. Simply stating what is true, this device has dated AOSP roms, and I was informing the user. Apologies..However, you wont have to hear my opinions stated anymore, I bought a GS3 to get some solid custom roms. See ya!
CM10.1 is here maybe you should look before posting it doesn't exist......and JB kernels will come once source is out... Which will be pretty soon, so dunno what's the disconnect there...do you not know that to build true custom kernels you need source? sgs3 got JB before the evo so naturally they'll have custom kernels before it too...
Sorry things are not spoon-fed enough over here for you to get everything you want... Like I said before, part of the current problem is attitudes like yours where you will have the nerve to sit back and complain about things but NOT get off their arse and try to help/learn!
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Still lacking..
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CM10.1 is here maybe you should look before posting it doesn't exist......and JB kernels will come once source is out... Which will be pretty soon, so dunno what's the disconnect there...do you not know that to build true custom kernels you need source? sgs3 got JB before the evo so naturally they'll have custom kernels before it too...
Sorry things are not spoon-fed enough over here for you to get everything you want... Like I said before, part of the current problem is attitudes like yours where you will have the nerve to sit back and complain about things but NOT get off their arse and try to help/learn!
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Just stopped back in this forum to see what was going on, and still nothing popping.. but hey the GS3 is going hard with the custom work. To the op like I said before. Just get another device, your stuck.
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Just stopped back in this forum to see what was going on, and still nothing popping.. but hey the GS3 is going hard with the custom work. To the op like I said before. Just get another device, your stuck.
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Glad they are spoon feeding you over there.
As I said before only thing lacking is kernels and that's awaiting on source which will be out anyway now. We got JB after the SGS3 did so its natural to get source after them too...
Now since you have ur SGS3 and are fully over there, I'm going to suggest you stay out of here as your posts are nothing but trolling in nature...
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I couldn't deal with the 'plastic' overall feeling with the GS3 but that's just me. Overall the development for the EVO LTE is phenomenal. Now with CM10.1 running almost perfect, I could never imagine giving up my cell.
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waterbound said:
I couldn't deal with the 'plastic' overall feeling with the GS3 but that's just me. Overall the development for the EVO LTE is phenomenal. Now with CM10.1 running almost perfect, I could never imagine giving up my cell.
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+1 on sammys feeling cheap.
I'm hoping for Sony xperia devices on sprint. Y_Y
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Every HTC phone I've owned had an aluminum chassis that gave it a bit more heft. They have a very solid and reliable feeling to them. My phones have survived being dropped from all sorts of heights and all types of conditions. My father once dropped his HTC Touch Pro in discarded motor oil and the phone still to this day powers on and works. He has yet to upgrade it because it's only his work phone and he claims it's the most reliable phone he has ever owned.
I've owned the gs3 before I bought this EVO and I have to say. Yes there is more development there, but overall its all the same ****, we have devs working hard for us just like they have devs working hard for them over at the gs3 forums. we have great roms over here for us EVO users. My only real issue is with custom roms (cm based) is my Google nav not working at all but personally its not a big deal, I'm fine with sense, I can get telenav to work there.
I do wish we had miui (which I believe someone is working on, could be mistaken).
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You mean like this?
So the quick settings are available in Viper4g 3.0.0 I believe they are the only JB Rom that has them thus far.
Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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mcwups1 said:
Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Could be wrong but have to agree, sense 5 may take a little while longer to get rolling, but there other roms that just dropped. Im a big supporter of utkaar99's work here. If you like sense try his HatkaLTE or his Rage ROM. If you like AOSP ,take a look at jaimeg's threads. Still some stuff happening here just a little slow right now. As far as the One, its true we're loosing some folks to that forum, but thats how it works here at xda. I mysrlf was going to get a One or the samsung 4 but decided to hold, mainly just to see how long this forum will last. Hope its like the Heroc was, even in low activity it still pushed on. Same with the Evo4G, still hangin in there 3D is the same, still going strong. We may pick up some of theirs in the future hopefully. Just gotta hang tough.
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It isn't like the days of the original evo. I always had a new Rom to play with and so I wait patiently 4 the next big rom release. I refuse to use a Rom that doesn't have full functionalities. I need my phone to just work so I am staying on mean bean until something worthy replaces it. I do love viper Rom as well.
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I know viper is working on something that will allow mods and roms for the one on other carriers to work on the Sprint variant and vice versa. One development is about to explode. That said we still have some quality roms here in lte land. If you have the time, you can learn to develop and theme.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Don't forget to hit the thanks button. When this phone came out there were still a lot of developers working on EVO 3D ROM's.
tonyevo52 said:
Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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stephiroth said:
My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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I'd like to keep it for the 2 years like the ogevo. But I don't know if it will make it.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
I think in this new world of quickly progressing smartphones there are a couple of options for xda'ers. One, upgrade yearly to stay with the new device that gets all the attention.
The second option is the progression that this site fosters. Users learn and build their abilities to create by themselves. Many of the past leaders of EvoLTE have left a legacy of development here that can be built upon. Fortunately, the vast majority of the devs around here will gladly allow another person to take over the reigns and continue a build- or even make it thier own creation.
The site was named xdadevelopers. The purpose for the site is to allow users to learn to be developers. All the tools are here.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
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Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Something else to consider is that Android 5 (Key Lime) is on the horizon and may be announced at Google I/O in a couple of weeks. A major OS rev often stokes new inspiration for devs and hopefully we'll see ports of Key Lime ROMS to the EVO LTE (e.g. CM, Key Lime based Sense, etc.).
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
I'd much rather have more kernel development than rom personally. I'm learning more and more each day the true capability of the hardware and which software elements dampen it's potential. We have a huge hd screen and dual core I could really care less about the One and sense 5. Like someone else said it can't do much more than viper. I'm testing the AOSP waters for now and loving Slim Bean currently.
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Damnit man, LOL Beat me to it again bro. ,,,,,,
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NineInchNails said:
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Just look in the development threads. There are still a lot of really great roms still being worked on.
Yes a few have left but many still have this phone and many more will probably pick it up second hand or now that it's becoming really cheap on sprint.
For ask those worried why don't you go and read a few how-tos and start doing your own thing.
I really hate these threads. They always happen and never produce something good. Just lame really.
Naters
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Try themikmik.com nice roms there
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