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Does anyone know if there is a widget comparable to the sense "mobile" widget, that will turn mobile data on/off, and works with the Eris? I've tried toggle data widget and switchpro and neither of them work. Thanks!
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I used to be looking out for one, but I found out I always had one!
I assume your on a vanilla rom and dont have sense? use the control panel. there's a button with a circle and 2 arrows on it.
now this doesn't actually turn off 3g, it turns off active syncing. active syncing is what drains your battery when you aren't touching your phone. so if you turn it of, it will be exactly like if you turned 3G off all together. but! doing it this way, you can open up the browser, and it will still automatically load.
like, if you turn it off, your phone wont be using 3g to constantly check on your new emails, but if you went to the mail application and hit refresh it will bring in the new emails for you.
Thanks, actually I'm trying to convince myself I could use a non-sense ROM. There are many things that I love about sense and the mobile widget is one of them.
I'm on pageplus and only have 50mb of data, so I like to keep the mobile connection off unless I need it for some reason. One time I was listening to pandora over wifi and all the sudden my data usage was maxed out. I believe the wifi radio was turned off after 15 minutes because of one of the phones settings (I've since changed that setting and haven't seen this problem). Needless to say, since then, I've been paranoid.
The suggestion to disable syncing will help but I would prefer to cut the connection completely. That way, any app that might happen to be running in the background (That I no longer need) won't be able to suck away at my limited data. Or, if wifi get's turned off automatically for some reason
Are there any other suggestions?
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Thanks, actually I'm trying to convince myself I could use a non-sense ROM. There are many things that I love about sense and the mobile widget is one of them.
I'm on pageplus and only have 50mb of data, so I like to keep the mobile connection off unless I need it for some reason. One time I was listening to pandora over wifi and all the sudden my data usage was maxed out. I believe the wifi radio was turned off after 15 minutes because of one of the phones settings (I've since changed that setting and haven't seen this problem). Needless to say, since then, I've been paranoid.
The suggestion to disable syncing will help but I would prefer to cut the connection completely. That way, any app that might happen to be running in the background (That I no longer need) won't be able to suck away at my limited data. Or, if wifi get's turned off automatically for some reason
Are there any other suggestions?
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-camurphy-toggledata-jCE.aspx
would that work ?
Thanks rv, I've actually tried that one and it doesn't appear to work on the Eris. Other people have reported the same in the reviews.
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I would love to find something like this to out side if the sense widget. haven't found it yet.
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I am on page plus also, and i faced the exact same dilemma trying a non-sense rom. I couldn't find anything reliable. I know its not as convenient but what about just pushing the power button for 2 secs and then selecting turn on/off mobile network from that list. I have to do this in sense sometimes because the mobile widget doesn't work occasionally.
For those that are using roms that still have HTC Framework, then a shortcut is to long press the end call button and select the last option. Which is Mobile Network ON/OFF
Atleast that's a workaround but not a complete widget replacement, sorry
Check out beautiful widgets, it's 1.99 but it might have what you need.
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Thanks rv, I've actually tried that one and it doesn't appear to work on the Eris. Other people have reported the same in the reviews.
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u should try droidwall. am on pageplus too and use this one to control the data usage. u can block some or all apps from using 3G and restrict them to just wifi. its free. try it out
mooneyb said:
I am on page plus also, and i faced the exact same dilemma trying a non-sense rom. I couldn't find anything reliable. I know its not as convenient but what about just pushing the power button for 2 secs and then selecting turn on/off mobile network from that list. I have to do this in sense sometimes because the mobile widget doesn't work occasionally.
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Yeah that will work fine, I never noticed that was there... but do the AOSP/Cyanogen builds have this option?
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Check out beautiful widgets, it's 1.99 but it might have what you need.
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I actually have beautiful widgets, but there isn't one to turn off data.
Just to post an update for anyone interested:
SwitchPro widget works great at least on White Widow. I'm assuming it works on any AOSP ROM. I tried it with a stock sense rom previously and it didn't work for me, so I'm assuming that it doesn't work with sense.
I have had my new streak since Wednesday, this thing is awesome!! I do have a concern about my GPS constantly turning on, every time I take my phone out of stanby mode it starts to search for my location. I "killed" all apps with Advanced Task Killer and it still try to locate my position... I don't mind too much, but it cant help my battery life so if anyone has any ideas as to what programs could be requsting my location all the time that would be a big help. Thank You for Your Time!!
Did you set up any widget?
I think you can use power widget to turn on/off GPS.
try going to the settings/location and security/ and turn it off?
hopefully the three top checkboxes are self explanatory...
use wireless uses a bit of data, but not that much, and is much more battery friendly than using gps (the second one).
however if you're not using location aware apps or widgets (such as beautiful widget) then there's no need for them.
any app that really wants to use gps usually asks you to turn it on, if its off.
fards said:
try going to the settings/location and security/ and turn it off?
hopefully the three top checkboxes are self explanatory...
use wireless uses a bit of data, but not that much, and is much more battery friendly than using gps (the second one).
however if you're not using location aware apps or widgets (such as beautiful widget) then there's no need for them.
any app that really wants to use gps usually asks you to turn it on, if its off.
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Thanks for the reply, I did turn off the GPS option and kept on the Wireless one. Seems to have fixed the issue with contantly trying to find my location... I still have no idea which program was activating it.... Just have to turn it on when I want to get acurate directions... Hopefully my battery will last a day now!!! Assuming I can manage to put it down for more than 5 min...
Just a suggestion, have a look at the threads regarding using task killers on the streak. I was a WM user for years so thought task managers were essential. Caused me nothing but bother on the streak, been using it for weeks without one now, it occasionally has a temporary slow-down, but supposedly the streak doesn't need a task manager.
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Yeah I use Advanced Task Killer... it works great!
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Just a suggestion, have a look at the threads regarding using task killers on the streak. I was a WM user for years so thought task managers were essential. Caused me nothing but bother on the streak, been using it for weeks without one now, it occasionally has a temporary slow-down, but supposedly the streak doesn't need a task manager.
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A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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I had been wondering if there was a description somewhere that tells exactly what that setting does. I always thought it ran the WiFi radio at a higher current in order to keep a better signal. Are you sure it has anything to do with always picking the strongest signal?
Mike
lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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Interesting find, will need to watch this.
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ITT: OP hates good battery life
daneurysm said:
ITT: OP hates good battery life
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I take my charger to work and underclock most of the time, so it's not a huge deal.
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also when my screen is off it disconnects it self from wifi!! has anyone notice that?? it's cool since it is saving battery
You can change wifi sleep settings in that same menu also. I run the performance mode and still get great battery life also
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Nice because I have two wireless routers one in the front house and one in the back. Sometimes it stays connected to the weaker one when I'm further away from it. Thanks for the tip.
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Wow never noticed that, thanks! Definitely gonna use this now.
EDIT: Guess its an Evo 3D thing only thought I might have it still...
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lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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nice find bro,gonna give it a try...
danaff37 said:
You can change wifi sleep settings in that same menu also. I run the performance mode and still get great battery life also
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i use an app called green power,its free,it turns off all radios(wi-fi,3g,4g in the paid app)when ur creen turns off and automatically turns them on instantly when u unlock ur screen,does wonders for my batt.life.
It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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That's what I heard as well.
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I'd still like to know your source for the info saying that this setting evaluates the signal from all wifi sources and picks the one with the best signal. This setting is not outlined anywhere other than to mention that it uses more battery. Is it just something you turned on and you noticed it did that... or did you read it somewhere?
Mike
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It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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I do the same thing unless I'm somewhere that has no wifi. I also disable the always on mobile data which saves battery life without losing functions of your phone.
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I do the same thing unless I'm somewhere that has no wifi. I also disable the always on mobile data which saves battery life without losing functions of your phone.
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Disabling "always on mobile data" will prevent you from getting push email from apps like K9 mail. Won't it? I mean, if I'm waiting for an email and I want to hear a chime when it comes in (I have K9 set up that way), it'll never come through if there's no wifi and I uncheck "always on mobile data". Correct?
Mike
Push email still works. Or At least gmail does..
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mikeyxda said:
I'd still like to know your source for the info saying that this setting evaluates the signal from all wifi sources and picks the one with the best signal. This setting is not outlined anywhere other than to mention that it uses more battery. Is it just something you turned on and you noticed it did that... or did you read it somewhere?
Mike
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If you have a spot where this would help, check it out. Mine does it at work. We have a customer wifi and a service wifi that get better strengths in certain spots and it will switch back and forth.
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Someone should do a couple runs of Speedtest with this on and off to see if there is a real difference in throughput.
Also, turning off "always on data" does not stop Gmail from syncing, and it does wonders for battery life in my experience.
mikeyxda said:
Disabling "always on mobile data" will prevent you from getting push email from apps like K9 mail. Won't it? I mean, if I'm waiting for an email and I want to hear a chime when it comes in (I have K9 set up that way), it'll never come through if there's no wifi and I uncheck "always on mobile data". Correct?
Mike
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Correct. Whenever you turn your phone screen on though, data will reconnect and stay connected for a couple of minutes, any e-mails that were waiting to be pushed to your device will then get sent. You won't get any notifications if you never check your phone all day, but I'm usually getting a text every once in a while which I turn the phone on to reply to.
You'll get immense battery savings with always on mobile data turned off as well.
Is there a way to have the GPS Radio only turn on if I open Waze or some other GPS Aware program? Trying to conserve power here.
TIA
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Is there a way to have the GPS Radio only turn on if I open Waze or some other GPS Aware program? Trying to conserve power here.
TIA
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To my knowledge, having GPS on standby barely uses any battery. Only when an app updates your location.
I'd just leave it on. Maybe Juice Defender could manage it though
That's how Android works. The GPS isn't actually on unless you see the icon in the top bar. Try it yourself - open Google Maps and you'll se the icon, then close Maps and you'll see it go away.
How is it like with bluetooth? Is it a big battery hog?
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How is it like with bluetooth? Is it a big battery hog?
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Haven't tried out bluetooth yet.
But again, Juice Defender can now manage that too.
Thanks for the info...I'll be sure to play with the GPS a bit more.
Juice Defender is my new best friend.
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To my knowledge, having GPS on standby barely uses any battery. Only when an app updates your location.
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that, I've always turned it off because I thought that it would drain my battery.
I know for a fact that the BT will drain your battery even if you have nothing connected to it so turn it off if you don't use it.
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of that, I've always turned it off because I thought that it would drain my battery.
I know for a fact that the BT will drain your battery even if you have nothing connected to it so turn it off if you don't use it.
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No, it doesn't. Nor does GPS.
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No, it doesn't. Nor does GPS.
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Reason people think that I bet is because when Bluetooth was new tech and only in it's first revision it didn't have any power saving features and was constantly pinging the radio if devices were connected or not. That was fixed with Bluetooth 1.3 onwards if memory serves right.
Bluetooth will not use battery unless its connected to a device, and then only will if the phone and the device get out of range from each other. I think but don't quote me, that the connecting device is in charge of pinging and staying pared and not the phone.
Gps can actually cause battery drain of you do a ton of web browsing and are using googles locstion sharing feature...it shares your location each time you load a page in the browser...so not only uses gps but the maps app as well.
This is the only scenario where I have seen it measurably effect battery
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I use Bluetooth in my car for voice and music. As you can see by my screen grab it does not use much battery.
CradleRob said:
Is there a way to have the GPS Radio only turn on if I open Waze or some other GPS Aware program? Trying to conserve power here.
TIA
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Pull down status bar, toggle GPS on/off.
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CradleRob said:
Is there a way to have the GPS Radio only turn on if I open Waze or some other GPS Aware program? Trying to conserve power here.
TIA
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I use a program called Tasker and created a rule that turns on GPS only when I open Maps and Navigation. Tasker is a paid app but well worth it. i used it to turn on bluetooth and Nav when I get in my car in the morning, it also shuts off wifi and starts streaming Pandora. When I get to my office, it shuts off the ringer and turns on vibrate mode, shuts off the data network and stops streaming Pandora. It checks my personal email twice per day at scheduled intervals so I am not distracted.
When i plug in my headphones, a menu appears asking if I would like to launch music, pandora or phone.
Though it's a paid app, it is worth the money. Tasker is awesome.
--Mike
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I use a program called Tasker and created a rule that turns on GPS only when I open Maps and Navigation. Tasker is a paid app but well worth it. i used it to turn on bluetooth and Nav when I get in my car in the morning, it also shuts off wifi and starts streaming Pandora. When I get to my office, it shuts off the ringer and turns on vibrate mode, shuts off the data network and stops streaming Pandora. It checks my personal email twice per day at scheduled intervals so I am not distracted.
When i plug in my headphones, a menu appears asking if I would like to launch music, pandora or phone.
Though it's a paid app, it is worth the money. Tasker is awesome.
--Mike
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I just bought and paid for Tasker for the GPS one click workaround.
Tasker has a learning curve, but it's like any other macro editor.
You basically make a macro that says
IF app_being_opened = Navigation
AND gps status = off
THEN Open Location Settings
DPAD Down
DPAD Down
DPAD Enter
^-- Tasker does these for you, you sit there and watch.
OPEN Navigation
And you can do the same thing for Maps or any other apps requiring GPS.
Note that I also just made one for one click 4G, too.
Works well.
Note that I'm sure the macros can be cleaned up and made more idiot-proof, but I'm nowhere near proficient with Tasker yet. There are A LOT of options.
+1 for Tasker. I am by no means an expert with it, but it definitely has a lot of functionality.
I've used it to only turn on GPS when opening certain apps (like maps, foursquare, etc.)
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I don't understand the need to pay for an app to turn GPS onff. Tasked has a lot more uses but to purchase it for an answer to a nonexistent problem is so...meh.
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jamesd86 said:
I don't understand the need to pay for an app to turn GPS onff. Tasked has a lot more uses but to purchase it for an answer to a nonexistent problem is so...meh.
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Troll keep on trolling.
There is obviously a problem if multiple threads have been started to address the problem and if all the GPS widgets on the Market have to have a disclaimer saying "1 click won't work on 2.3.x devices."
Have tasker, just waiting for my note to use it actually
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I made this tutorial for anyone having difficulty making their one-click GPS solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg56IgNHA0Y
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Troll keep on trolling.
There is obviously a problem if multiple threads have been started to address the problem and if all the GPS widgets on the Market have to have a disclaimer saying "1 click won't work on 2.3.x devices."
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If you read what I wrote you'd realize that I understand there's a small problem but c'mon..almost 7 bucks when all you have to do is pull the notification down and hit the GPS toggle? If that's all someone is buying tasker for...its a waste. Now if they are going to use it for more stuff that's cool.
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Anyone know a good app that turns wifi on/off not based on location? So if I am connected at home and leave it turns off my wifi and then periodically checks to see if a known ssid is within range and reenables if one is found. I used to use one called Auto Wifi On off but don't see it in market anymore. I don't leave the location settings on and the couple I have tried that use that feature don't work to find my "home" location so never bothered to try them for long. Running Mean bean 3.6
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You can do that with tasker...I've never tried it before, but I've seen examples where people have done it. From what I hear though, it's pretty hard on the battery and there's a fair amount of scripting to get it setup. A simpler solution would be to buy an NFC tag and use NFC task launcher to write a profile to it that disables wifi, enables mobile data, etc. Then you can just tap your phone to it when you leave the house. You can set it up as a toggle also, so it will do the opposite next time you tap it (when you come back in).
Tags are pretty cheap, and there's a bunch of other stuff you can do with them...one of my favorite features of this phone. Here's where I bought mine from:
http://tagsfordroid.com/store.html
8 bucks for 2 tags and a programmable keychain.
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Interesting. Hadn't thought of that.
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