I'm planning on buying a stereo BT headset.
Based on the use I'm planinng and my personal taste, etc. I'm down to these two:
- Bluetake i-PHONO mini Bluetooth
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2960
- Nokia HS-12W
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2986
Now I can't decide myself. I can't test it cause they're not available locally yet. Price is similar.
I guess Nokia is more versatile, has radio, LCD that can be fully used in the future (new ROM's?)
But the concept of Bluetake is great also. Don't know if it's a bit bulky.
I'm more on the Nokia side right now.
Can you people with wizards (and cousins) give me some insight about those two options, maybe some detail makes me decide....
Txs!
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Hi format,
I own the iPhono mini 450Rx and I tell you the sound quality is simply fantastic when combined with the right software player on my QTEK 9000. FI, I'm using the free GSPlayer which comes with effects like an equalizer, 3D, Surround, Bass Boost, preamp, Reverb and Echo etc etc. Conduits Pocket Player is another great software player with many effects too.
IMO, the most important thing in choosing a stereo bt headset is the sound quality. Features come second.
iPhono mini 450Rx comes with great sound quality although its other features may not be as good as its competitor like its shorter battery life compared to ANYCOM's stereo bt headset.
Have not tested the Nokia one so no comment.
Thanks FOSA,
I don't konw where to buy the bluetake so it could be a problem with warranty. I only see it selling on ebay (USA) not on europe nor any other ebay.
Also I whish I could see a bluetake, live. Nokia has a more regular headphone look except the case that has a good metal look (although it's another item to carry....)
Guys post your opinions on the audio quality of the device and if possible also a comparison with your previous phones.
Thanks.
Already quite heavily discussed...
Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
Why disappointed? Everyone knows that standard headsets are bad.
Use your own, be happy.
chesterr said:
Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about? When you say you 'don't like the headset' - is it the sound quality or the ergonomics/comfort that you don't like? what aspects exactly are bad?
When we assess the audio performance of a phone, there are several separate aspects:
1. Audio output signal quality, i.e. the analog signal coming out of the phone jack. I would argue that this is superb, as can be witnessed by connecting it directly to a quality Hi-Fi system or high-performance headphones.
Has anyone noticed anything different in this respect - like distortion, noise or other defects? I haven't.
2. The audio quality in the main use of the device: as a telephone (unless we have forgotten that it can also make calls). Taken for granted most of the time, this audio quality was disappointing in my previous X10 - but on the X-S is significantly better. Call audio quality (including volume) is on par with the best phones I've used.
3. The sound quality when listening to music 'over the air', i.e. form the phone's built-in speaker. There are limitations how much loudness and/or bass you can extract form a tiny speaker in a tiny box - I hope nobody expects it to sound like a 500 Watt stereo system On speaker, the X-S is on par with the following models found around my household: Xperia X10, SE C905, SE C902, Nokia 5800. Differences are minor and, at this compromise level, not worth analysing. Subjectively, on built-in speaker the X-S sounds to me slightly but certainly better than the X10.
4. Audio quality via the standard headset provided in the pack. NOT (!) any extra /additional headphones - those are subject to your taste (and investment), see (1) above.
The kit headset is a hands-free unit optimised for making calls and not for music consumption. Yes, they certainly can play music (and many models do it decently, depending on the listener's audio culture and expectations) - but they absolutely must not be assessed and criticised as a musical device, they simply are not that.
Anyone who has the ears to hear the difference and values audio quality normally buys dedicated musical headphones. (Or already has them - as technology in them evolves slower than phones and they need less frequent 'updates'. I keep them over the life of 2-3 phones).
When we rely on the headset provided in the box, we voluntarily agree with the limitations - that those are a compromise, designed for making calls and also designed to minimise the cost of the bundle.
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I'd like to think that we all agree with the above logic. Please feel free to prove me wrong (with facts) on any aspect of it. In this light, I would like to hear:
- What aspects of the audio is @chesterr (and others) unhappy about?
- If Sony disappoints, who else doesn't? What are you comparing the X-S with? What is your example of the ideal mobile audio experience (straight out of the box)?
Anyone could recommend a headset at, at max 50 dollars, for listening to music that works on it. Cable at least 1 meter and has to be in-ear.
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Since my kplisch x10i won't work with the Sony @) I have gone back to my trusty denon ach 360's
Very nice warm sound in my opinion even though they are considered an older model.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/accessories/earphones/301807/denon_ahc360_review.html
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Using Soundmagic E10s with mine and have to say I'm impressed - easily on a par with my iPhone 4s for audio quality - sounds pretty neutral to me and more than adequate for a phone imho.
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about?
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Wow man you're promoting Sony or something I thought that I was doing that..
well It's Sony dude they should've done more better than this, I don't blame it but I don't like the headset.Okay If you're telling me to be happy with what I get for the price that I paid for, Okay then.
BTW I'm waiting for their new Smart Headset. and Hopefully it'll be better and yes the call quality is to the maximum comparing to the other devices and they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
Included earbuds are always crap. If earbuds cost less than €50/$75 they are crap by definition. I've heard the audio output quality of the Xperia S is brilliant and amongst the best of all phones ever made.
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they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
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Bass is very dependent on the headphones. I just tried on a pair of Sony MDR-EX81 and the bass is thumpin!
Tip: If you really wanna splurge, try the Sony balanced armature series...
I'm really impressed with the audio quality on the xs. I came from a Samsung Galaxy s2 which is a truly awful mp3 player.
The only criticism I can find with the Sony is that the highs and percussion are often more pronounced than vocals, but having said that the highs are very detailed and defined, and a pleasure to listen to!
This is the best performing phone for audio I have owned. That includes the Iphone 3gs...
Hi!
Could anyone compare the sound coming from the backside speaker to the Iphone 4 speaker output (music without headset).
Cause coming from the X10i and comparing to Iphone of my wife, x10i has a miserable sound (small tweeter behind speakerhole at the left side), Iphone4 has a much richer base when playing back music without headset.
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
Baxxx said:
Hi!
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
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Hi
When I compare the built in speaker of my XPS with my old x10 mini pro, the x10 mini pro has a better sound, but with stock hearphones I think XPS is better.
chesterr said:
Wow man you're promoting Sony or something...
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No, I'm not promoting Sony. Unlike Appleheads, I am not a blind fan - every time I am buying a new device I research all products in the market, from all brands and makers. I have a (rather complex) set of comparison criteria and carefully score all available options. The fact that my last few phones happened to be Sony (Ericsson) is not brand loyalty, they just scored top marks according to my criteria. As a rationally-minded (stupid engineer) I can only compare facts and measurable parameters. 'Cool' factor, fashion trends and media hype are not among my criteria - otherwise I always gave Apple a chance in my shortlists.
Talking of audio, I cannot completely ignore the fact that among all phone makers Sony is the only one that has been making audio equipment for more than half a century, including high-quality HiFi systems and components. That includes a (very) deep vault of patents, but more important - a wealth of experience and expertise that no other phone maker has, and no 'think different' genius can easily replace.
Talking about cameras (sorry about straying off-topic for a moment) - apart from Samsung no other phone maker has any experience in making 'normal' cameras, and even they started much later and excel at the cheaper end. Sony have been making (photo) cameras longer and long before that they were making professional TV cameras used by every major broadcaster in the world. That counts for some (deep) understanding of electronic imaging that no one else has. In fact, Apple respect this and have chosen not to reinvent the steam engine, but have built a Sony camera in their phone. There can hardly be a higher recognition.
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No 'Sony-heads' and blind fans here, just noticing objective facts and using my head, not my 'heart' (or other body parts).
To everyone in this forum (you must already have Sony phones, since you are here?) - and on topic: Enjoy the Sony sound, it's objectively better than others!
Sony actually include the package with livesound in malaysia .
The best bounded earphone i ever have inside phone box for the phone i brought .
Having moved from an iPhone 4 to the Xperia S I would say that the audio quality is ok but nothing special.
Listening through decent headphones (Klipsh Image X10s) the Xperia produces a good sound but I don't think it is as good as the iPhone. It is perfectly serviceable but the iPhone does a lot better in my view, especially with lossless files where you can really hear the difference on the iPhone and on the Xperia it is marginal at best compared to 320Kbps mp3.
I've no complaints about the Xperia and it beats the iPhone in most other respects but I think audio quality is an area where it could be improved.
I guess it comes down to the quality of the DACs used within it. Sony's audio experience may help but it cannot compensate for lower quality audio circuitry at the end of the day.
The output is also noticably louder on the iPhone and the Xperia may struggle to drive some headphones at a decent volume level. Its ok with mine but I find I am using 85% volume on the Xperia to get the same sound level as my iPhone running at around 70%.
Great phone though.
The sound quailty of the phones speaker is good.
The bundled headphones are poor.
The sound output via analogue is okay but not great.
The call quality is very good.
I moved from iphone 4 to xperia arc to samsung s2 to samsung note to xperia s.
Xperia arc's noise level is too high and both samsung s2 and note sounded too soft.
If lack of low frequency is not a concern to you, iphone obvious has a more open and detailed mid-range frequency reproduction (e.g. vocal voices). However, I still prefer XS for the more balanced sound.
output volume from XS is too low... hope it will be fixed by firmware upgrade.
anyway, XS is the best music player among all mobile phones i've ever had.
btw, I am using Shure 425 earphone and 840 headphone.
I don't think xs has good quality of sound indeed, I heard that there is a deficit for android or Qualcomm chips dealing with 48k (or 44.1k sound ). I am not sure about it but the default music player does improve music quality a lot.
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Hello,
I'm wondering about what Go users think about their audio/sound on their phones? One of the stand-out features that I noticed about the phone before I bought my current phone was that in audio tests, for both the speaker but especially with earphones, the depth, loudness, clarity and fidelity of the audio was rated as the best of the 2012 Sony phones if I remember correctly.
Do you have a Go? What do you think about the audio? If you own/have owned another audio device for comparisson, for e.g. I've owned numerous iPods and Xperias. then feel free to say whether the phone is better or worse than your other devices.
For any Go users that are wondering about the details of the audio tests: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_go-review-791p5.php
Feel free to take a look at the audio of other phones, and you'll really see why this phone stands out for audio performance, even if it is not it's main feature.
sound xperia go
The only problem with the sound is ...that its hard to hear in a moving car,i use mine with sygic navigation and have to put the radio compleet of.
That's interesting and good to know! I notice that the speaker layout on some of the 2012 Sony phones blocks sound if it's a a poor position, it's a shame.
Hello XDA Community.
I'm planning to buy the SBH80 Bluetooth Headset from Sony. I saw them a while ago and I decided to give it a try and buy them. The only thing that I don't know if it supports native noise cancelation, like the headphones that were included in the package.
I think it should work since Sony uses the two microphones built in the included headphones to cancel the noise, and the SBH80 does have two microphones as well.
Does anyone know if they work as desired?
Thanks!
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I remember vaguely that z2's noise cancelling works only with MDR-NC13EM. But I could be wrong. You could try asking Sony directly, but customer care reps probably won't be very helpful considering the vast number of headsets and phones Sony makes. Sending an email would be a better idea. Best thing would be to borrow an SBH80 from a friend and see if NC works on your z2. If you find the answer, let us know as I was also considering SBH80.
The purpose of two microphones on SBH80 is for HD Voice (cuts out background noises and makes it easy to recognise voices) so it would not support noise cancellation.
sbh-80 is independent hardware/software so there is no possibility to make it works
...in HD voice this cancelation isn't for us -this is for those we speak to
z2 has special microphones in earphones and special processor for cancelation in phone
it will newer get works with this processor with bluetooth headsets becouse its need almost perfect 0ms latency to make rotate soundwave 180degrees
and bluetooth connection isnt so fast
if there any possibilities to make fuse the hd voice canceling thing works for music I think sony would implement that
maybe those two microphones are doesn't quality good as they should be
sorry for my poor english
There are people telling me that after they tear down the system, they found that the audio decoding chip for X and X compact is exactly the same as for XZ (WCD9335) instead of WCD9326, I would like to check if you guys could help provide some evidence.
Apart from that, does it mean the tuning is also the same? I found the sound from earpiece plugged on a X compact and XZ are not exactly the same, but there are people argue they are almost identical.