[Q] Upgrade quandry - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

OK, AT&T is going to give me an out-of-cycle upgrade due to so many issues with my Captivate. I was already convinced that I wanted the SGSII until I saw the new SGSIISR. I'm not in an LTE area and don't expect to be any time soon, but the specs on the SR look too good to pass up. Unfortunately, I read a lot of issues with the SR's BT operation and that's one function I use a lot (streaming Slacker and MP3s in car and on my Harley). I also read that the SR does not have Gorilla Glass, something I really liked about my Cappy. Is there anything about the SR that I would regret not having if I choose to go with the SGSII?
My other concern is what can I bring over from my Cappy via TiBU? I'm running Andromeda3 (love it!) on the Cappy with a few tweaks (circle batt mod, for one). Will any of them cause issues on the SGSII? Thanks for the help.

As far as things with the sr, if you don't have LTE YET In your area, there is no reason for you to get the sr in my opinion.
There are great roms over here, but your Andromeda will not work to my knowledge.
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The biggest question is...
Is 4.5" too big? I have an Infuse and it's too big. The sgs2 is the perfect size for me.
I also don't like to be the early adopter. Let everyone else work out the LTE kinks then jump over next gen when the coverage is more complete.

There is nothing about the SR other than LTE that exceeds the I777 in specs, other than the larger screen size.
The SR is heavier
The SR is thicker
The SR has a weaker processor (clock speed isn't everything - think Pentium 4 vs. Athlon XP as an example)
The SR has shorter battery life (LTE + Snapdragon + lots of bugs due to being a niche almost-one-off device with low design maturity) despite having slightly higher battery capacity - LTE alone is more than enough to offset this.
The SR has zero commonality with Samsung's international flagship, the I9100.

Entropy512 said:
There is nothing about the SR other than LTE that exceeds the I777 in specs, other than the larger screen size.
The SR is heavier
The SR is thicker
The SR has a weaker processor (clock speed isn't everything - think Pentium 4 vs. Athlon XP as an example)
The SR has shorter battery life (LTE + Snapdragon + lots of bugs due to being a niche almost-one-off device with low design maturity) despite having slightly higher battery capacity - LTE alone is more than enough to offset this.
The SR has zero commonality with Samsung's international flagship, the I9100.
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Exactly what I was looking for. I was concerned about the size. With my failing eyes I tend towards bigger screens, but as I handle the phone while riding my bike I need something that isn't too big. I also want better battery life. Guess I'll stick to the SGSII. I like that there is a ton of DEV support for it. Now, if someone can point me to a ROM as good as Andromeda3...

I am stuck in same debate but I live in a lte market but still consider phone but I like large screen but enough to give up a better quality phone and cm9 is important so no one saying if either will get it.
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Miami_Son said:
Exactly what I was looking for. I was concerned about the size. With my failing eyes I tend towards bigger screens, but as I handle the phone while riding my bike I need something that isn't too big. I also want better battery life. Guess I'll stick to the SGSII. I like that there is a ton of DEV support for it. Now, if someone can point me to a ROM as good as Andromeda3...
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as far as a good ROM goes it is really up to what you like. Do you like touchwiz? Do you like AOSP? there are soooo many options for this phone because you can use ROMs from this section, or you can head over to the i9100 forum and grab something up from over there and use the hellraiser mod to make it compatible with our device. I personally use the turkbey 29.3GT ROM, with the siyah 2.4.2 kernel, and Ive never been more satisfied. heres a link to the turkbey post http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFFmWlIqH4NuisG7tHvQbTow-CceQ
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rboone18 said:
I am stuck in same debate but I live in a lte market but still consider phone but I like large screen but enough to give up a better quality phone and cm9 is important so no one saying if either will get it.
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I also live in an LTE market, BUT, I usually use WiFi anyway. I went with the GS II, and I couldn't be happier with my decision. My brother has the SR, and the GS II is smoother/faster/more liquid than the SR by far. The qualcomm processor/adreno 220 gpu in the SR can't even hold a candle to the exynos/mali 400 combo in the GS II, even though its clocked @ 1.5 ghz, the 1.2 ghz exynos is faster, by far. Not to mention the SR feels like your holding a VCR, lol. I had the T989 before I had my GS II, and as I said before, my brother currently has the SR and the Atrix 4g, and he constantly uses his Atrix as his daily driver, I even think the tegra2 in the atrix is better than the qualcomm. And keep in mind, as u can tell from my list of previous devices below, I am unbiased as to manufacturer, if its android, and I like it, I use it. Period. I am being 100% honest when I say in my opinion the GS II i777 is the best device Ive ever owned, and even with the release of the galaxy nexus, I STILL believe IMHO its still the best device on the market, besides the resolution and ICS (which we'll have soon anyway) the i777 pulls ahead in hardware.

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as far as a good ROM goes it is really up to what you like. Do you like touchwiz? Do you like AOSP? there are soooo many options for this phone because you can use ROMs from this section, or you can head over to the i9100 forum and grab something up from over there and use the hellraiser mod to make it compatible with our device. I personally use the turkbey 29.3GT ROM, with the siyah 2.4.2 kernel, and Ive never been more satisfied. heres a link to the turkbey post http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFFmWlIqH4NuisG7tHvQbTow-CceQ
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I also live in an LTE market, BUT, I usually use WiFi anyway. I went with the GS II, and I couldn't be happier with my decision. My brother has the SR, and the GS II is smoother/faster/more liquid than the SR by far. The qualcomm processor/adreno 220 gpu in the SR can't even hold a candle to the exynos/mali 400 combo in the GS II, even though its clocked @ 1.5 ghz, the 1.2 ghz exynos is faster, by far. Not to mention the SR feels like your holding a VCR, lol. I had the T989 before I had my GS II, and as I said before, my brother currently has the SR and the Atrix 4g, and he constantly uses his Atrix as his daily driver, I even think the tegra2 in the atrix is better than the qualcomm. And keep in mind, as u can tell from my list of previous devices below, I am unbiased as to manufacturer, if its android, and I like it, I use it. Period. I am being 100% honest when I say in my opinion the GS II i777 is the best device Ive ever owned, and even with the release of the galaxy nexus, I STILL believe IMHO its still the best device on the market, besides the resolution and ICS (which we'll have soon anyway) the i777 pulls ahead in hardware.
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I like cm7 but I want cm9 on my device so I am.looking to the future and it is a must. I like asop roms mainly but every so often I switch. I have an infuse now with cm7.
This year, I have had atrix,inspire,iPhone 4,infuse. I feel like I an forgetting another android.
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rboone18 said:
I like cm7 but I want cm9 on my device so I am.looking to the future and it is a must. I like asop roms mainly but every so often I switch. I have an infuse now with cm7.
This year, I have had atrix,inspire,iPhone 4,infuse. I feel like I an forgetting another android.
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in that case they have something called superosr you should check out. Its in the i777 forum and its a mixture of vanilla and cm7. Its really cool, you get the best of both worlds. We also have cm7 and Im sure cm9 and ICS soon enough. The GS II's development is going to continue to boom for a long time, the device is just too damn good for it not too. Look at the evo, or the nexus for example, older phone but the devving STILL continues no matter how outdated they are. This device is a safe bet, and its ROM selection will definitely provide you with something that suits your wants/needs.

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in that case they have something called superosr you should check out. Its in the i777 forum and its a mixture of vanilla and cm7. Its really cool, you get the best of both worlds. We also have cm7 and Im sure cm9 and ICS soon enough. The GS II's development is going to continue to boom for a long time, the device is just too damn good for it not too. Look at the evo, or the nexus for example, older phone but the devving STILL continues no matter how outdated they are. This device is a safe bet, and its ROM selection will definitely provide you with something that suits your wants/needs.
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I am calling att tomorrow to exchange my SR for the Sgsii, I'm in a LTE area too but the problems with the lines in this screen and just not feeling too snappy for a 1.5 dual core changed my mind. You also just pushed me over the edge so thank you, future galaxy s II owner here!
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Skyrocket Envy?

Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
Well the 1.2 Ghz exynos processor is actually faster/better than the Snapdragon 1.5 Ghz. The 4.3" screen size imho is better, at least for me and doesn't look as nerdy The LTE is the only thing that would make me switch but it's not too big a deal yet.
I thought they both used an exynos but the skyrocket was clocked to 1.5 and got an 1800 mAh battery to compensate? I also sort of disregard the lte since I live in an area that will likely not get lte for quite a while.
Nope. Skyrocket got the snapdragon cpu just like the tmobile sgs II did.
The sgs II is a better choice for you, AntwanL Why do I say that?
People don't come to xda for no reason. They want to see what they can 'do' to their phone. And here you are at xda. The sgs II will always have more being done to it than the skyrocket.
If you don't care about modifying android on your phone, then go for a skyrocket. It is a samsung with a dual core phone and 1gb of ram. That's nothing to sneeze at.
A .2 inch bump in screen size and lte, that won't be wide spread for awhile, is not enough for me to get a phone that will have less choices that the alternative, this phone.
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More like Note envy.
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Also look in the skyrocket forums and specifically the developers section and compare it to the SGS2 developers section. Plus what the others have said above. To me it is more important to have developers who make our phones better due to having a international phone that is the same.
The ONLY two phones for the skyrocket are the T-Mobile phone and I THINK the Canadian version of the skyrocket. So the developer support will never be as big.
To see how this works look at the support on the older generation galaxy s phones (captivate, i9000) and compare it to other phones that did not have international phone in common with it. The i9000 and captivate still have a great support of developers even with it being an older generation of the phone.
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shadow65781 said:
More like Note envy.
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Haha, I'm loving my note. All my buddies are work comment on it.
The apple fanboys go "Is that a small Ipad?, it looks like a small Ipad, anything bigger than an ishitPhone is too big"
Good times...
Anyways op....
The skyrocket is inferior in every single way Hardware wise. At&t also throttles you much faster on LTE than on HSPA+
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the GS2 is as fast as the skyrocket, despite having a lower clock speed. The reason is the superior GS2 processor. Also, the GPU on the GS2 is superior, so despite similar speed, graphics are much better (and not choppy) on the GS2 than the skyrocket. The skyrocket will never be as hackable as the GS2, and so it will always be difficult or impossible to overclock it much. Despite the GS2 being of similar speed with a 1.2ghz processor, compared to the skyrocket's 1.5ghz processor, I am already overclocking my GS2 to 1.6 ghz and haven't had any stability issues at all. CM7 has the 1.6 ghz overclock feature already baked into the rom, so you don't need to flash a separate custom kernel.
I was going to originally get the skyrocket, but decided to go with the GS2 instead. The processor and GPU superior (and overclocked is much faster than the skyrocket will ever be capable of). Also, the resolution is better and it is very hackable. The only skyrocket advantage is LTE (I went with GS2 despite living in an LTE area and having unlimited data) but this is only a minor advantage. You use the processor all the time, but the data plan only sometimes, and LTE simply means somewhat shorter wait times for downloading.
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-snip-Also, the resolution is better and it is very hackable. -snip-
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
AntwanL said:
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
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If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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No envy here....Sure the screen is larger and it has LTE. However, I dont live in a area that is likely to see LTE for quite some time and the screen in note a selling point for me only being bigger.
I will wait a year or so to see what the market has at that time. I cant afford to purchase the latest and greatest every few months when a new device with 512mb more memory comes out etc....lol
gr8hairy1 said:
If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
Pirateghost said:
this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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I salute you in your efforts. For the next week or so I'm recovery from surgery on a pilonidal cyst - yeah buddy - I'll see what help I can be over there as far as general android education goes, a week may be all I can handle.
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I just returned my Skyrocket for an original SGS2. I live in an area with LTE (Dallas) and while it was neat, I never felt like it was useful. I just visit webpages and use the navigator and things like that. Even streaming YT videos wasn't much faster....not worth much more than running speed tests and going LOLWTF LOOK AT HOW FAST THIS IS......yeah it's pretty awesome but unless you tether or something, meh. It just never felt any faster than my girlfriend's SGS2.
The battery life was bad (LTE radio + 4.5 inch screen + the slightly faster clocked (but slower overall) CPU overtook the small bump in mAh), reception was bad (I'd have 1-2 bars most of the time for LTE and it would switch back and forth from 4G to LTE all day), and the aftermarket support (physical and developmental) is very lacking of course.
I prefer the SGS2 over the Skyrocket.
Also, I don't forsee CM or MIUI to EVER be on the skyrocket, since it's not an international phone. Very small userbase.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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i never got an infuse, so i dont know what its like over there.
kang away!...lol. i love that post
AntwanL said:
Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
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Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
jpstiehl said:
Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
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+1
Lol
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
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The number of pixels is the same, though the SR's screen is bigger so the resolution is worse. It is not nearly as hackable, because the only similar device is T-Mobile's GS2. The international GS2 is similar to AT&T's GS2 so there will always be much more hacking going on with it than the SR.

Black or White

Hey guys, feels good to be back on i9100 forums, bought an i727, and i must say, i hate that that POS phone, 1.5Ghz feels like 1.0 Ghz single core. Im going back to my old Galaxy S2 after i sell the i727. Really want to get the white one, BUT, checked Gsmarena and it says that the white Galaxy S2 has a different chipset and a different GPU, now, my question is, will i be able to flash ROMs without any problems or incapability issues? And will i see much difference between the two phones? Slower faster, better worse? Im also a gaming fan, and when i used to download games, i remember there a different .apk's for different types of GPU, finding APK's for Mali 400 was never a problem, but what about the PowerVR SGX540? Thanks a lot guys.
Checked out some benchmarks, which i know dont really mean too much, optimus 3d and bionic use same gpu and chipset, but they are worse than exynos sgs2. How significant is this?
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Hey guys, feels good to be back on i9100 forums, bought an i727, and i must say, i hate that that POS phone, 1.5Ghz feels like 1.0 Ghz single core. Im going back to my old Galaxy S2 after i sell the i727. Really want to get the white one, BUT, checked Gsmarena and it says that the white Galaxy S2 has a different chipset and a different GPU, now, my question is, will i be able to flash ROMs without any problems or incapability issues? And will i see much difference between the two phones? Slower faster, better worse? Im also a gaming fan, and when i used to download games, i remember there a different .apk's for different types of GPU, finding APK's for Mali 400 was never a problem, but what about the PowerVR SGX540? Thanks a lot guys.
Checked out some benchmarks, which i know dont really mean too much, optimus 3d and bionic use same gpu and chipset, but they are worse than exynos sgs2. How significant is this?
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In theory, there's no difference between a black GT-I9100 and a white one. What's probably happened is that the site has two different devices (the GSII, and a variant) listed as the same device. Go look up the specs of the international GT-I9100 and pick the one that matches that.
Regarding the question about compatibility, if the device really does have a different chipset and GPU, then no, you'll need ROMs and kernels that are tailored to that device's hardware - so you'd need to figure out which variant of the GSII it is.
On a personal note, I think the black Galaxy S II looks better than the white one
Thanks a lot for the reply bud. Yea i figured the ROMs wouldnt be suitable for different hardware, so thanks for confirming. I went on Bell's website (my provider) to check the specs, but obviously they dont go into such deep details. I guess i will have to ask someone who already has this phone to look up the specs in the manual or something.
I had a black one for four months, just wanna try white, to me the white one looks better
Thanks again
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Thanks a lot for the reply bud. Yea i figured the ROMs wouldnt be suitable for different hardware, so thanks for confirming. I went on Bell's website (my provider) to check the specs, but obviously they dont go into such deep details. I guess i will have to ask someone who already has this phone to look up the specs in the manual or something.
I had a black one for four months, just wanna try white, to me the white one looks better
Thanks again
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Could you link me to the page, I might be able to help
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Could you link me to the page, I might be able to help
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http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II_4G_White
Saw a Nexus commercial, highly considering, but only because of ICS, but then i figured SGS2 will also get ICS, so i guess ill wait
Black verison FTW hell yeah ..!!!!
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http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung_Galaxy_S_II_4G_White
Saw a Nexus commercial, highly considering, but only because of ICS, but then i figured SGS2 will also get ICS, so i guess ill wait
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So that one there looks fine, minus the fact it has LTE capabilities, which are lacking in the original GSII. I can't shed much light here, unfortunately.
That said, I think you should go with the Galaxy Nexus - the Galaxy S II is a fantastic piece of hardware, but in nearly every aspect the Galaxy Nexus either matches it, or beats it, and, more importantly, not only does the Galaxy Nexus get direct updates from Google immediately (compared to 4+ months from Samsung), but from experience, all the best development happens for Nexus devices. If it's within your means, go the Galaxy Nexus.
Nexus is 600$ here in Toronto, and thats a bit out of my price range, i mean i can definitely buy it, i just dont see/know if its worth the 150$ extra dollars. Im a heavy camera user, and having an 8mp camera is a huge plus for sgs2. Going back to 5mp....naw. My 5 year old nokia n95 8gig has the same camera. Also dont like how it doesnt have a scratch-less glass. But you definitely made me think Is the nexus really that good? And can you please expand on the updates part? Immediate updates?
PS. Cant see where you found that its LTE compatable, maybe took a wrong turn by accident?
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Nexus is 600$ here in Toronto, and thats a bit out of my price range, i mean i can definitely buy it, i just dont see/know if its worth the 150$ extra dollars. Im a heavy camera user, and having an 8mp camera is a huge plus for sgs2. Going back to 5mp....naw. My 5 year old nokia n95 8gig has the same camera. Also dont like how it doesnt have a scratch-less glass. But you definitely made me think Is the nexus really that good? And can you please expand on the updates part? Immediate updates?
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In the long run, it's worth it. Believe me on that.
On the camera, yeah, it's a bit of a step down, but 5MP is by no means a bad camera, and the shutter speed of the Galaxy Nexus is lightyears ahead of the Galaxy S II. Plus, lense technology in smartphones has come a long way since the days of the N95 - so while the sensor might be the same resolution, the picture quality is just amazing.
The glass on the Galaxy Nexus, while not 'Gorilla Glass', which keep in mind is just a marketing term for chemically strengthened glass, is still very scratch resistant. As long as you take care of your device as you would any expensive device, it'll be fine. As a precaution, I'd still apply a screen protector though - but I do that with even my Galaxy S II, no matter how scratch resistant it is. Plus, the curved glass is so much more ergonomic and pleasant to use (and looks downright sexy).
About the updates...
When Google finishes developing updates for Android, i.e. once they've finished the coding and testing, they release it for Nexus devices only, so the Nexus One, the Nexus S, and the Galaxy Nexus - any other phone has to have the code ported to it by it's manufacturer, a process which takes months. So, the Nexus devices always get updates first, months before any other device.
All this, plus the fact that there's no carrier bloatware, and a 720p HD screen, etc. makes it one killer device!
Got too carried aay with the new years. I checked out a loooot of videos on the Nexus, i really like the software, but the speed doesnt impress me, that lag between transition from portrait to landscape...i kid you not, my N95 did it faster and in this one review they were complaining a lot about the camera. Huuge, no no for me. Its quite pricey, and the reason being is, ICS. If other phones start getting ICS, this phone will drop in price like craaazyyy. I found a good S2 for 400, and now the margin increased to 200$ between S2 and the nexus, and to tell you the truth i dont think the nexus is 200$ better.
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Got too carried aay with the new years. I checked out a loooot of videos on the Nexus, i really like the software, but the speed doesnt impress me, that lag between transition from portrait to landscape...i kid you not, my N95 did it faster and in this one review they were complaining a lot about the camera. Huuge, no no for me. Its quite pricey, and the reason being is, ICS. If other phones start getting ICS, this phone will drop in price like craaazyyy. I found a good S2 for 400, and now the margin increased to 200$ between S2 and the nexus, and to tell you the truth i dont think the nexus is 200$ better.
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Well hey, it comes down to what suits you
Best of luck with it all!
screamworks.
screamworks said:
Well hey, it comes down to what suits you
Best of luck with it all!
screamworks.
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Do you approve my logic?
ICS is pretty much made for SGS2, maybe a month or so and it will be ready to use.
Deniska11 said:
Do you approve my logic?
ICS is pretty much made for SGS2, maybe a month or so and it will be ready to use.
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Now that NITZ is fixed in XXKP8, and the CyanogenMod 9 team have solved a lot of the camera issues, etc., I think you're about right with a month for a decent daily driver - but Samsung won't have an official ICS ROM until around April.
Personally, I'd go the Galaxy Nexus, but the Galaxy S II is still a monster phone, so go with whatever you prefer.
Get a pink SGS2. Stylish
In all seriousness tho, if you're choosing (or not) a phone based on the colour of the handset, you really should be asking yourself what the hell you're doing on XDA in the first place
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Now that NITZ is fixed in XXKP8, and the CyanogenMod 9 team have solved a lot of the camera issues, etc., I think you're about right with a month for a decent daily driver - but Samsung won't have an official ICS ROM until around April.
Personally, I'd go the Galaxy Nexus, but the Galaxy S II is still a monster phone, so go with whatever you prefer.
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I dont mind waiting for an official, but if the one on xda is worthy, ill get that. Speaking of the fix, im quite amazed xda already got roms, i mean...how long ago was the phone released? Thanks a lot for your input anyways man.
MistahBungle said:
Get a pink SGS2. Stylish
In all seriousness tho, if you're choosing (or not) a phone based on the colour of the handset, you really should be asking yourself what the hell you're doing on XDA in the first place
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Lol, the things xda keeps enforcing are: dont spam and read previous posts. Not only are you posting a garbage/useless reply, but you also dont know where i am coming from because you failed to read.....anything from this thread. My question was wether i need a diiferent rom, if the s2 had different internals.
I guess you'd better report me to the mods then.
Edit to add - You were told in the first reply to your OP that you were mistaken re: differences in specs between different coloured handsets. If you'd bothered to do your research properly (even Wikipedia would have given you the differences in hardware between the SGS2 "variants"), you would have known this already :-|
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Lol, the things xda keeps enforcing are: dont spam and read previous posts. Not only are you posting a garbage/useless reply, but you also dont know where i am coming from because you failed to read.....anything from this thread.
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on my family there are 3 sgs2, 2 blacks and my sgs2 white, al of them gt-i9100 with same specifications and the same performance, it only changes with the different version like the lte.
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I dont mind waiting for an official, but if the one on xda is worthy, ill get that. Speaking of the fix, im quite amazed xda already got roms, i mean...how long ago was the phone released? Thanks a lot for your input anyways man.
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Well, considering that with Gingerbread, I run CyanogenMod 7 instead of Samsung's ROM, I think I'll end up going with the CyanogenMod 9 ROM over Samsung's anyway
The Galaxy S II, at least in Australia, launched in May last year. If you're referring to the Galaxy Nexus, it'd be about a month or so, give or take two weeks. But the source code was out about a week or two before the Galaxy Nexus shipped, and has been out for around two months or so, again give or take a bit
I might be getting one sometime in the next few weeks. I was just wondering, is anyone using an InvisibleShield, or BSE or any other skin on their white Galaxy S II?
I'm curious as to how it looks, if it makes the white look less... white.
Gonna buy mine sometime soon too. I dont think it makes a difference, my friend has a white iphone with a ghost screen protector, it lookes exactly the same. MAYBE just a tiny little bit less...white

Any previous infuse owners?

Just looking for any ex infuse owners that went to the sgs2 to give me they're opinions.
Thanks
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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TOA Duck said:
Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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This. Infuse GPS/Wifi has nothing on ours.
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Previous infuse owner. Get the sgs2. That is all.
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
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My experience with the Infuse in web browsers was very sluggish and choppy as well as home screens that use live wallpapers. I don't do much gaming on my android so can't say how that is. It's been some time so I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the battery life didn't seem nearly as good as my GS2 running Unnamed or SHOstock.
Edit: As I no longer have the phone (returned it within a month and went back to my 3gs to hold off until I got this) I cannot say if it still performs like this. I did root, flash, etc, so it wasn't just a stock experience.
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Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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Thanks for the replys so far. I know every opinion is different. But the dev dman has both and says the infuse is faster ...
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I strongly disagree.
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Is your sgs2 oc or UV at all. What battery do u get. I'm 1.2 with custom rom and some uving and I get almost 2 days battery on good days otherwise a day easy.
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I'm running SHOstock with Entropy's 12/08 DD, stock battery, not sure about the clocks but I believe they're stock as well. Normally access to a charger is readily available, so I don't bother conserving it as much as some others do (I leave my screen on for 20 minutes before I notice it and turn it off). Because of this, I generally get a day and a half out of it on average.
I can easily go 2 days without a charge if need be, I'd just turn the screen timeout back on to around 2 minutes or so. A while back before tweaking I barely squeezed 2d8h out of it, but now I'd be comfortable going 3 days if I really had to.
Edit: I also keep my bluetooth on, GPS on, and wifi off, data connection stays on and I generally get 2 to 3 bars out here. I have two Google accounts syncing everything except for Picasa. I also use Llama that does cell tower polling (among other things) to automatically change profiles (primarily for volume changes).
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Thx entropy I know alot of u ex infuse devs are over here now. Alot to think about. My infuse has good bat life. GPS locks kinda slow but is fine for me when connected. And speed wise my single core is just as snappy as dual I would bet. But that's just my opinion as a user and I value your input as a dev.
Thanks
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Had the infuse for two Weeks. Made a ROM and wasn't happy with performance of device... Also had Atrix. Lg thrill 3d. brought infuse back and spent the extra 100 got gs2. Gs2 is better than all my phones for developing and use.
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Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
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Screen was bigger however quality is better on the SGS2. SGS2 is way faster, GPS is also a lot better (locks faster).
Camera I think is also better.
There is no question SGS2 is THE PHONE
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Only difference is sgs2 cam does 1080p who hoo and they are identical screens no difference in quality? And I have a dslr for pics so camera on a phone doesn't mean anything really. For still or video. Its a phone.
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For me, even if not for the improvements in development and ability to leverage the I9100 community for development - the GPS was a MAJOR factor in deciding to keep the device and ditch the Infuse. (I was on the fence and was considering returning it after a month since it was such an expenditure.)
The Infuse GPS was OK, but not good enough for me to trust it - I would NEVER have relied on it for navigation in any tough environment such as a city or even an area with good signal but densely packed roads. The I777's GPS is good enough to replace all of my standalone GPS units except for the ones I use while hiking. (In fact, my parents now have my old trusty "Dealextreme Pirate Special" GPS.)
Entropy512 said:
There are lots of ex-Infuse owners here. In fact, quite a few developers here are ex-Infuse.
gtg465x was on the Infuse and came here, MikeyMike01 came here for a while but then sold off all of his newer devices and went with an old Focus, I'm here.
From a developer's point of view, the GSII blows the Infuse out of the water. From a users' point of view, the difference isn't as obvious, other than that we have proper Gingerbread and the Infuse is still stuck with half-baked derivatives of the Rogers release. (AT&T leaks have improved things somewhat - but still stuff like MHL support is missing.)
Oh yeah - GPS on the GSII is a MASSIVE improvement compared to Infuse.
Given a choice between Infuse and GS2 both with contract subsidy - GS2 is a no-brainer. If it's a question of upgrading by paying full off-contract price - not so sure if it's worth it at this point. Better to wait for something else (International GS3 maybe?) or get a GNex.
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Another good point
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Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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Here is my take on the S2 vs Infuse
http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/infuse-4g-vs-galaxy-s2-i-777
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Nice write up. Decided for the sgs2 for my gf. Trading her iPhone 4(finally got her on the android wagon) . Kinda sad her first android is on paper a Beter phone than mine but I know my infuse will still hold it's own. I just wanted her to have something that's gonna have more value in the end like her iPhone which retains value. Unlike the infuse which value is only going down fast!
Thanks guys
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I have 2 of each, and besides the video playback being slightly smoother on the sgs2 I can't tell the difference. The infuse has CM7 as does the sgs2 which are both still KANGed. Maybe I can give a good comparison when they join the nightly...

Any reason not to get the NOTE to upgrade based on my requirements?

Hello!
So I have been waiting for the GS3 so long that I ignored the NOTE..now that I see it, I am impressed that is a beast...huge phone that fits me great because I use my phone all the time and that screensize is just perfect.
So my only concern is, the International one seems to have a lot more Development going on for it and better CPU if I am correct.
So , how is the situation with this one?
As you can see I love tweaking my phone but I think that if I am able to overclock it and get ICS , I would be happy even if its not the fastest growing dev phone around.
I mostly watch videos and play emulators on it. Mame, etc. Calling is not an issue nor is size.
It looks like ICS means not OCing?
Any comments?
I just would like to avoid getting the International one unless it is necessary.
Regards
Just curious... Which phone do you use now and do you like it?
Captivate on my sig, OCed to the max and with AOKP. But as much as it has lasted, it is time to move on.
I've had the captivate, nexus, Skyrocket and many more. BUT the Note is the best phone I've ever had. I highly recommend it to anyone. As far as modifications go, the international has more right now, but with all the leaks and Official ICS in the works, we wont be far behind them. Some pretty kick ass developers here that are waiting for ICS and some sources to run with.
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Once we get official ICS, we will see lots more dev support. This device is the best ive had. Its nothing like a big screen.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
well the Note does do the following:
HDMI output with MHL adapter
OTG cable support for various USB devices including Keyboards and USB memory sticks
Support for 64GB micro sdxc cards.
Killer Super Amoled screen at 1280X800 (or something) ridiculously large.
Overclock-able? check!
Stylus input for drawing and accurate poking
Unparalleled internet browsing experience, short of a netbook.
GS3 advantages IMO are only
faster CPU and native ICS. For the new flagship Samsung phone, I expected better. when i say faster cpu, i mean via benchmarks. real life usage, not so noticeable. Actually i don't even know if i consider ICS an advantage. Its not like i hate Gingerbread, however some people treat it like the second coming of Christ.
overlook that and you will be overjoyed with the Note, either version.
Like home PC's, invest in screen real estate, cuz that's what you'll have to deal with more than anything.
The deal-breaker for me between the International version and AT&T version is LTE.
I don't mind it not having ICS now, since it is coming very soon, not to mention the leaks.
Just gotta say I came from an Sgs overclocked with aokp and all though i was a little sceptical about dev support at first im loving my note and glad i made the switch even with the lack of an oc kernel and aosp ive been able to tweak the phone the way i like it with no lags on ics
Edit: you will miss voodoo sound and the wolfson dac however but that'll be missed going to any new Samsung phone
I currently am trying out an ATT note and i do love it. But i still find the size a bit cumbersome and the battery life (while good) not enough for my usage. Im going to import an s3 and hope that will be my sweet spot for size & battery. I wonder if the s3 will have the black crush issue?
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Pentile suffers from black crush too?
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The Note and S3 are basically the same screen other than size difference. There has been no true fix for the black crush that the Note sometimes has. So I'm wondering if Samsung somehow addressed this with the S3 being a flagship device.
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I read that ICS gets rid of the banding...is that not true?

Hello all, Just would like some opinions please

Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
Right now, in my opinion, the Note is the best phone on the market. We have awesome dev support. Any worries of lag you can pretty much throw out the window. The stock ROM, debloated, is very smooth and performs well, I have been quite happy with debloated stock ICS, and it it's legitimately the first Android I have used where the stock ROM is bearable, let alone satisfactory.
However, the work the devs have done will likely make you want to flash a custom ROM fairly quickly. We have official CM9 nightlies, and to make that even better, Cyanogen himself is the developer for that. We also have AOKP variants, as well as a few hybrids and AOSP roms. I'm currently running Gubment Cheeze by rasroygbiv, which is a CM9 variant, and I couldn't be happier, this thing flies and sips battery; highly recommended by me. I've tried most everything in the development forum as I'm a flashaholic, and I can tell you that the Note will not disappoint. JB is also in the works by several of our developers, and we should have stable builds very soon. Dev support is awesome to say the least.
There are no issues with IMEI switching that are know, and we have plenty of options to return your Note to complete stock, including a flash counter reset, so you shouldn't have any worries flashing. In addition, it's a Samsung, which means unless you're dumb and rush things, it's damn near impossible to hard brick. And even if you do manage to hard brick, there are JTAG services available for like 40 bucks that will fix that.
Battery life is slightly above average which is nice. Most people get around 3.5-4 hours of screen on time, and generally anywhere from 12-18 hours of standby or more depending on what all you have running/syncing. So there shouldn't be any worries there.
Plus, we have this beautiful 5.3" monster of a screen that will make you fall in love. It isn't even a question that you'll love the Note. It's a question of if you'll still love your other phones. =]
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That pretty much summed it up for me. If I could thank you 5 ttines I would
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I just wanna say that was the best feedback I have ever got on here. Thank you again.
No problem, glad I could help. =]
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First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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I am limited to 8 thanks per day, which I am pretty sad about, but I will be sure to thank you tomorrow haha.
I am not worried about the size, just the lag issues I have heard about and the quality of the screen.... can you differentiate between pixels to the naked eye or anything?
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Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
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The new one is coming or being announced in two weeks. My note with the ROM I'm currently using is just as fast as my S3, and much more capable due to the Samsung apps-- I.e. S Note, the widgets, and the ability to flash S3 apps and widgets because of phMod and the touchwiz framework support inherent in such a configuration.
You absolutely ant go wrong. I had a macbook pro, which I used for browser duty/media, and an iPhone for gaming and news. I stopped using my iPhone and my macbook pro when I got my TF101. I then got my Galaxy Note, and stopped using my tablet for anything but reading, and I split news duty between my Note and Transformer.
Even with the Snapdragon S3, ICS & the custom ROMs (and gingerbread earlier on) made it so the performance was as smooth or smoother than on any other device I touched, including the Prime.
Even games like Dead Trigger, with the Tegra 3 graphics effects enabled run well. They don't run at 60FPS, but to be honest, the display quality is such that you'll be wowed by the resolution and color vibrance and won't notice when you're only running at 30-40 fps. The gpu was the only area where I could've used just a tad bit more power-- I had that power with the GPU over clock that came with the first over clock kernel that was available here. I haven't seen that GPU OC make a comeback in ICS, even after the kernel source was released--disappointing.
Some suggest that the new Note will have a quad core S4, or the new Exynos wit baked in LTE (they won't give up LTE)....so I really think you're cutting yourself short. On the other hand, the enthusiasts and developers are, and will be here, likely for another year, when on contract, they can get an early 18 month upgrade, unless they buy retail.
You have a vibrant, CM and Indie supported community here, with the turkey, the gravy, and all the trimmings. Its impossible to guarantee that wit a new device-- especially one that had a predecessor released what, 4 or 5 months ago (Jesus christ!).
So weigh an established device that is supported, vs a SoC upgrade....because the Note 2 won't be much different. It wont have a better screen-- in fact, the screen resolution will stay the same, and if the rumors are correct, screen size will increase, resulting in a lower pixel density. It will be unproven, and might get better battery life (I say it might, because the rumors say it will get thinner....something that will impact the battery capacity, when in combination with a change to a more efficient, would likely balance out). It will have a less dense, but bigger screen.
I will however tell you that virtually e v e r y o n e that's used the Note, would likely pick it over any device on the market anywhere.
The form factor and screen quality trumps virtually every other ace in the hole out there.
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With the new kernel, and AOKP - I have ZERO lag. And the screen is on par with the best I've seen (including the 4s).
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
If the note can handle those super smooth with no issues I have a feeling I'm going with thst
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
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You won't be disappointed.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
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i have never used the s3 but the note is by fast the best phone o have used or even seen the screen is amazing very fast and is a very solid device. Every one that sees it is like omg that's a phone.....so it makes a good conversation starter.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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honestly I will probably NEVER use the SPen lol.... I just like the bigger screen and I hear great development for it.
I just dont wanna go from my S3, to a Note, and then be disappointed. Granted I can always switch back, but I just spent X amount of money a new in box sealed note. I am pretty hopeful it works good. Thinking about donating some of these other phones I have to Devs that have bricked or something. I litterally have 2 iphone 4's, 2 iphone 4s's, a One X, a Note now, an S2 and S3, and like the older G1's and stuff. May do that when I finally decide what device to keep.

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