First time poster, long time lurker...
As far as I can find, I have not seen this issue come up for anyone else. I recently jumped in with the temp root to clean up the bloat and to de-sense. Process went great and everything that I attempted to freeze is froze.
To my dismay, the last two days (since I performed the clean up) my battery life has taken a severe turn for the worse. With screen off I'm losing about 10% an hour, which is way more than before. I used to easily get a day at the office, but now a morning is a lot to ask.
I've checked the usual suspects, and have gone as far as uninstalling any new apps that I've installed since the root. All to no improvement.
I suppose my next step is to re-bloat to see if that brings me back to where I was. But before I go that far, has anyone seen or heard of this problem? If I'm the only one, I suspect my cause and effect is off. I fully expected this to help the ol' battery... But its been the opposite.
I have the exact same problem, I am going to factory reset mine as soon as I have time to set everything up again.
My battery life has literally dropped in half.
~John
Bummer, exactly what I was trying to avoid. Oh well, that's the risk we take I guess.
With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate using less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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With all the memory and speed this phone has there is no reason to freeze anything. I can live with bloatware until I get s-off.
When you go freezing apps you alter the way the phone operates. You could have frozen something that the system needed to operate usiing less
Power. Now your phone works harder and uses a lot more power. This phone is faster and smoother than any rooted phone I ever owned.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Ah, the voice of reason! You are right, I was tottaly content until I started f'n around with the insides. Ill unfreeze it all tonight and keep my fingers crossed that I don't end up needing to reset.
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Agreed... This phone is a beast with an OEM extended battery. I used %40 in 14 hours with my standard usage, which includes about 30 mins worth of calls, receiving emails and texting.
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+1, i'm very satisfied with the stock battery on daily use.
When I travel, I throw in the extended battery and I'm watching an entire season of Arrested Development, no problem :x
I haven't desensed, and I only froze some of the bloatware, like the friendstream, nfl mobile...etc. that were in the app's folder, just to keep it clean, but I've learned I just crowd it up again as soon as I start downloading apps No task killers either, just use the one that shipped with it to kill some lingering apps now and then.
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True statement. One of the reasons I have not updated my temp root script to include de-sensing is because every time I try it it runs like crap. Seems like it just struggles looking for things the framework expects to be there.
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I was actually using your tool... appreciate your work on that, it's flawless as far as I can tell. Was going to thank you over on the development board but being an XDA noob I was not allowed!
I thawed everything out and will see tomorrow if I'm back to where I should be. If so, I may give your recommended list a try and see what that brings. I was really liking not having to see all that crapware everywhere I turned.
That is the reason I didn't use the de-sense option. I only froze some of the bloat that i really didn't use. I was afraid that if I de-sensed, it would cause more problems than it fixed.
I started a thread where I gave a long list of freezeable apps, it's linked in one of the stickies in the dev section, and I have left them all frozen. Something like 30 apps frozen. I have NOT de sensed though. I lose 1-2% an hour while idle, though the first 10% from 100 to 90 lasts much longer (complete opposite of my old Dinc which would drop the first 10% in ten mins!)
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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definitley looking forward to hearing about the results to the factory reset. i haven't had great battery life but i've also temp root and cleaned pretty soon after getting the phone, so i don't have too much to compare to.
jmorton10 said:
Well, I bit the bullet and factory reset tonight. We'll see how my battery fares tomorrow.
I had ADWLauncher installed before with a theme and custom icons etc. I left all that out this time.
I do like Sense quite a bit (I love the widgets) so I'm sticking with that for now.
I have two extended batteries I bought with the phone and originally my battery life was outstanding. I could stream audio all day at work (switching between iheart and Sirius) and still have battery life on my way home.
This is outstanding, no other phone I have owned could do that. Lately, my battery life is in the toilet however. I killed an extended battery in a half a day.
~John
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Let us know how it goes, I'll do the same. I used my freeze script to thaw it all out... hopefully I can leave this thing on my desk for a couple hours tomorrow so I can get some good data on idle usage. Fingers crossed it goes back to the way it was.
I have actually been using Go since day one. I never really tried sense, but it drives me nuts not having a dock bar... I think we can all admit the bar at the bottom is a waste of space. Anyway, I played with it a little tonight and it seems super smooth with good looking widgets (as you mentioned). I may have to get it all set up sometime and see if I can get over my dock bar hang-up.
I had the same battery problem as you and I have yet to even temp root my phone(I run Windows 8 Dev Preview, drivers are unsupported). I don't even play games on my phone and had the same issue. It isn't a root/bloat/de-sense issue.
AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
The factory reset seems to have helped some, but it's still not back to where it used too be. I have been streaming iheart all day on 4g using an extended battery. I got probably 6 hours out of the 1st battery & I'm down to 80% on the 2nd battery now.
I think the 4g network may be partly to blame in that I think my higher battery useage started almost exactly when the national 4g outage occured.
~John
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AtL, that battery chart looks painful. Read the issues list if you haven't already... Some folks have reported battery life like that and ended up trading in and getting one that behaved a little better.
As for my issue, after half a day it looks like thawing everything out was the ticket. This chart vs the one in the OP clearly shows a much slower idle draw. I think I'm back to only charging once a day.
So let that be a lesson to everyone... Be careful of what you think you don't want.
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I have been here a while bud. I was just posting to show that I had the same issue while NOT using Temp Root or anything you had used in your experience of the problem. This has only happened to me 1 time.
Debloated with no issues
If you know what your doing and have exp with this debloating / desensing will have only positives on your battery. Im pretty sure that horrid battery life had nothing to do with debloating. And as the OP stated it only proved mild imrpovements aftyer hard reset. Unlikely debloat caused that.
Took phone off charger this AM
would explain why when I had the rezound, the battery life started out great, then get beyond terrible.
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First off I want to thank Nitro for Eclipse it is by far the best my phone has run since purchased.
I have noticed tho on .5 that my battery seems to get used up a lot faster. Has anyone else noticed this? I know that Nitro said in his ROM OP that you could change the cpu frequencies in the init.d script. Has this worked for anyone?
If so could you please let me/us know what you did to get better battery usage.
My battery too died really fast when using v5. I adjusted the cpu freq to 216mhz and calibrated the battery. Also tried Overmind's init hack w/ no luck. I have the extended battery and it would need charged after 6 hrs or so. I use my phone a lot but I used to get 11+ hours under similar use..
I recently went back .2.2 where I had better luck w/ battery life. Gonna test this version and hope my battery isn't on its way out.
EDIT: After going back to .2.2 I'm now sitting at 30% with 16+ hrs of similar heavy usage. Nothing against Nitro's v5 but I've had MUCH better battery life on .2.2 Never gave much thought to the reboot "fix".
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Someone said something about sleep states being messed up so after you charge your phone reboot. I've been doing it and im at 40% after a day and a half of moderate use
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I have stayed on eclipse v .4 and get about 8 hours running at 600mhz.
If only we could get custom kernels. Got 1day 3 hours out of my og Droid at ulv 600mhz
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I have stayed on eclipse v .4 and get about 8 hours running at 600mhz.
If only we could get custom kernels. Got 1day 3 hours out of my og Droid at ulv 600mhz
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How do you change frequencies? I was trying to change governors but it wouldn't let me
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The only way I was able to change governers is using the Droid overclock app and installing busybox OR flashing a init.d hack. Not really sure how the app opened up the governors for me, but I know for a fact that init d hack works.
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So there is no real fix as of yet. I am not going to reboot my phone after each charge, that is obviously a band aid fix and I actually like to see how long my phone runs (well) without needing a reboot.
I really like 0.5 so I'd rather not go back to 0.2.2 just for the better battery usage.
It cannot be a kernel issue because since GB was released the Kernel never changed and it hasn't been since I flashed Eclipse 0.5 that my battery life has decreased.
It must be something to do with the ROM, I am sure it will be straightened out soon. One of the genius script writers will provide a hack or there will be settings tweak that helps. Until then it is not nearly a deal breaker, I can still use my phone like normal. It is just something I happened to notice now that we have 1% battery level increments. 5% in my case, I'm running TheMuffStuff's Cyan Ice Cream Blur.
I'm Pretty Sure The Kernel Did Change, Kinda The Big Topic With 2nd-init.
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One of the genius script writers will provide a hack or there will be settings tweak that helps.
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they already did its called hold the power button, click reboot and wait 20 seconds. also someone made some automated way to do this. you just choose to ignore it.
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they already did its called hold the power button, click reboot and wait 20 seconds. also someone made some automated way to do this. you just choose to ignore it.
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Sorry I don't mean to be rude or ignore the fact that rebooting fixes the battery usage just feel it is more of a band aid than a fix.
Mikey, I apologize I didn't realize that the kernel was able to be modified with a locked boot loader. I do realize that 2nd init hijacks certain process within the kernel and allows for modifications I just didn't know that the actual kernel we were running in eclipse .5 differed from the stock GB kernel.
I will be the first to admit that I have a lot to learn when it comes to the Android OS. I am very thankful to those with the knowledge to bring out these phones full potential.
Just Wanna Be Clear I Was Referring That Gingerbread Kernel Is Different From Froyo.
Not Stock Gingerbread To Eclipse Rom.
I Could Be Wrong And That's Fine, Wanted To Be Clear If I'm Wrong.
I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll turn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll tu7rn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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Dunno how others feel but I liked this post.
I recommend juice defender I love to set it to turn off all data while the screen is off. And I set it to turn it on every two hours for a minute to retrieve gmail and such. Has helped save so much battery lately and works great. That way I don't have to mess around with going g into settings to turn off data and on every time I wanna check. I also leave it in my notification bar so I can just pull down and tap and it cuts my data. Also have seen I can set it to turn off and on data when using any app I just haven't configured that setting yet. I have noticed up to 4hrs more battery when I have juice defender enabled .
I agree completely on the radio. Even when I have a very very good signal if im not using wifi and pulling data from 3g my battery has been almost completely drained within a few hours of heavy use just browsing the web. Its crazy how much juice it sucks down.
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I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll turn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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These are definitely words of wisdom. I think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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These are definitely words of wisdom. I
think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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Haha I was actually going to buy one of those if they aren't huge since I like to use my.phone a lot when im out on a "beer finding" day. Go bar hopping to crafted beer bars a lot and its nice to not have to ask the bartender if there is an outlet I can use hahaha.
I do think the battery should be lasting a little.longer than it does tho wit moderate use than it does 4 me
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These are definitely words of wisdom. I think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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Read an article not too long ago that described a company that's pioneering a solar charging layer for the touchscreen.
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I will definitely check out juice defender. I am by no means complaining about the battery usage at all. My phone still lasts all day with the same amount of use I have always had.
I had just noticed a difference going from Eclipse .2 to .5, and it was even mentioned by Nitro that people may experience a higher battery usage with this rom. I was simply wondering if anyone had applied a script or modified a setting (as stated in OP) that made a difference. I tried to change the cpu values in the script but it didn't make a difference for me. If anyone did make a change please post the change you made and how you made it.
Sounds like rebooting after charging, or using software to modify data usage is what works the best for now.
I'm trying to find out how lots are getting great battery life on roms and kernels that I get terrible or ok battery life. ex. Simply Honey with talon gave me the best bettery life out of any rom or kernel, but unfortunately that rom was not stable on my phone.
So what are some thing you do, and be kinda specific, like if you undervolt how much, and on what frequencies did you do what. Also helpful to include ROM and Kernel you use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
Check there.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
Check there.
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AHHH I knew that page would come up. I've probably done most of the tips and tricks and what nots what tos, but still get less than I should. That's why i want to know what everyone else is doing because I still can't get good battery life and simply honey is the only rom I got at least 20 hours, and that's without doing anything to save battery. I know there's more than what the guide has, and probably more difficult ways but I'm beyond the difficulty at this point, nothing is too difficult anymore.
My setup is toxic 8 with Bali 1.8.8 UV along with juice defender. With that and the extended battery I am able to watch a 2 hour movie using TV out and my battery only uses about 10 to 15%. I've never seen such good life until I started this rom/kernel. Now every time I try anything else I always go back to it. then with juice defender added too it it seems to last forever, if I didn't use mine so heavily I could easily get 3 days on it. My brightness is always set at max too. When I used to have my phone at stock I couldn't even last 5 hours with how I used it, after those few things I get 15+ easy every day.
Hell, I remember not even having my old flip phones being able to last as long as my vibrant does now.
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My setup is toxic 8 with Bali 1.8.8 UV along with juice defender. With that and the extended battery I am able to watch a 2 hour movie using TV out and my battery only uses about 10 to 15%. I've never seen such good life until I started this rom/kernel. Now every time I try anything else I always go back to it. then with juice defender added too it it seems to last forever, if I didn't use mine so heavily I could easily get 3 days on it. My brightness is always set at max too. When I used to have my phone at stock I couldn't even last 5 hours with how I used it, after those few things I get 15+ easy every day.
Hell, I remember not even having my old flip phones being able to last as long as my vibrant does now.
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See that's the one that gets me the most Bali, everyone says they get great life and that's the one i get the worst. I even undervolted -75mv on 1ghz and 100mv on the rest down, used only network data, auto brightness (love it) etc. and just barely using it maybe 1 hour of talk and 2 hours of music through speaker dead in another 3 or 4 just sitting there. Now i didn't know about juice defender before and I'm trying that now. I'm on ICS Passion 10.6 now was on D9 and Toxic8. I get a little better battery on passion over D9 or toxic8 but maybe and hour more.
Which profile do you use in juice defender? Don't see so far any improvement on balanced.
Juice Defender itself works great but if you really want to see what it does pay for the Plus (Ultimate has more features that the Vibrant just doesn't have, so no point in buying that unless you are moving on to a new phone someday).
One of the features of JD+ is that you can configure it on an app to app basis. So if your screen is locked it will kill something like Wootwatcher.apk but not Pandora b/c you presumably are listening to it. No need for Wootwatcher to be running all day long, they only update it once a day, know what I mean.
Another thing is what IS running in the background? You can use the BetterBatteryStats. It will show you what and when and how long.
Yesterday I pushed it to 33hours with moderate use (don't forget I do sleep too). Heavy would be much lower but I've been busy at work so moderate was all she got. One of the features of JD+ is that you can kill the radio/data from x time to x time. I have mine set from 12-6am (but it you are using it in those times, user takes priority). I don't need to be sending data while I am asleep now do I.
Flashing ROMs a lot also kills battery but T8 and D9 are my home ROMs too.
Edit:: Maybe I should elaborate on the 33hours. Unplugged at around 630a Monday, Music on the way to work. About 20 texts and 5-10 calls, XDA app, Music for about 8+hours Monday and first half of Tuesday, some games here and there (Reckless Getaway, Scrabble, kids played some drawing games), some browsing, started a movie but got sidetracked (about 1hr's worth) and finally plugged in at around 330p on Tuesday. So that isn't heavy but it also wasn't just sitting on my desk either.
I read somewhere (probably androidcentral post) that @ night or whenever your phone is idle, if there is a wifi signal around... turn ur wifi on. For background data stuff that's running, this actually uses less battery than if you let your phone's data do these tasks!
Well to day I tried juice defender plus in my daily routine......... huuuuuuh but then I drop my phone and broke the glass screen. Everything else work my battery did get much better but I didn't really use it as hard as normal, mostly cause I sat outside in parking lot for 2hrs waiting to get in store for work, so can't really say its doubled for sure but 13hrs is much more reasonable. Did update kernel and calibrate battery yesterday. Might have had something to do with it. Gonna try some undervolting see what I can do there.
As for wifi, it's actually worse than network data, especially when its idle. I always keep wifi off unless I'm watching a video or dl'ing a large file, just too power hungry.
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.
So I am currently running Carbon Rom on my phone. Whenever I lock my phone and I unlock it, in the notifications, it says that its preparing my storage everytime. But now, it says that my SD card is blank or unsupported but it works perfectly fine my computer. I've had this problem for about 2 months now. I've already tried changing the rom and clearing the cache. Also, I tried to take out my SD and put it back in but not luck. So please help on that. Also, I was just wondering, so as you already know, I'm running the Carbon Rom on my phone. It's a great rom but the battery life sucks. I would like a rom similar to Carbon that is 4.3 or 4.2 that is very smooth and also has great battery life. I tend to use my phone a lot, and I know that battery life on androids suck but some other roms had much better battery life on them, but I didn't really like them much. Thanks for all your help!
Played with Carbon and other roms, none are close to the battery life of Shostock roms (I've run 2,3, currently 4). And SS is about tops for smoothness and stability. Some of these roms are so much worse on battery life that it's pointless to use them if you actually "use" your phone throughout the day, unless you have it plugged in everywhere you go.
Far as the SD card not sure there, did it do it on stock or any other rom?
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Played with Carbon and other roms, none are close to the battery life of Shostock roms (I've run 2,3, currently 4). And SS is about tops for smoothness and stability. Some of these roms are so much worse on battery life that it's pointless to use them if you actually "use" your phone throughout the day, unless you have it plugged in everywhere you go.
Far as the SD card not sure there, did it do it on stock or any other rom?
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So I switched to Shostock 4.0. It's pretty smooth but my battery life isn't so hot. Maybe I just have to give it a day or two. And the problem isn't happening now. But usually, the problems comes after about a week of using a rom. Also, sometimes, there's random reboots.
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So I switched to Shostock 4.0. It's pretty smooth but my battery life isn't so hot. Maybe I just have to give it a day or two. And the problem isn't happening now. But usually, the problems comes after about a week of using a rom. Also, sometimes, there's random reboots.
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I do know Sho roms are always tops for battery life of the i777 roms. Never had random reboots or anything on any of the Sho versions. There could be something else wrong with the phone, rogue apps, something killing on gps power, battery gone bad. These phones are two years old now, and a lot of people have had the battery itself go bad before that time, I just replaced mine like a month ago. Just randomly started getting worse and worse phone life over the past couple months.
I keep GPS on all the time, and sync etc, only thing I adjust is WiFi set to stay on in sleep mode only when plugged in (Android has always had that battery sapping wifi bug). You should try running stock though for maybe a week or two and see if the issues occur, if they do, it could be hardware issue.
gainstatom said:
So I switched to Shostock 4.0. It's pretty smooth but my battery life isn't so hot. Maybe I just have to give it a day or two. And the problem isn't happening now. But usually, the problems comes after about a week of using a rom. Also, sometimes, there's random reboots.
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Random reboots are usually due to a kernel issue, rather than a ROM issue.
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Some of these roms are so much worse on battery life that it's pointless to use them if you actually "use" your phone throughout the day, unless you have it plugged in everywhere you go.
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Everyone will get different results, period. I get great battery life with Carbon, drop maybe 40-50% over the course of a day. Much of the building I work in, is a black hole when it comes to cell coverage, so I'm happy with my results.
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tedkunich said:
Everyone will get different results, period. I get great battery life with Carbon, drop maybe 40-50% over the course of a day. Much of the building I work in, is a black hole when it comes to cell coverage, so I'm happy with my results.
T
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So your not using your phone since there's no cell coverage? That's the thing I'm on my phone all day for work/personal, ton of calls, emails, text, browsing etc, used a bunch of roms but always come back to Sho on the i777. Have two employees with i777s running Sho too, same results, none of the roms they used had the standby and in use efficiency. Not to say the roms are bad, Carbon is cool, just wish they all had better life.
I will say if you notice a big difference like I did over last few months, time to replace the battery. Sammy shipped crap batteries in these phones, and it's a known issue that majority fail before two years are up. Mine did and my employees did lol
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I do know Sho roms are always tops for battery life of the i777 roms. Never had random reboots or anything on any of the Sho versions. There could be something else wrong with the phone, rogue apps, something killing on gps power, battery gone bad. These phones are two years old now, and a lot of people have had the battery itself go bad before that time, I just replaced mine like a month ago. Just randomly started getting worse and worse phone life over the past couple months.
I keep GPS on all the time, and sync etc, only thing I adjust is WiFi set to stay on in sleep mode only when plugged in (Android has always had that battery sapping wifi bug). You should try running stock though for maybe a week or two and see if the issues occur, if they do, it could be hardware issue.
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Yeah, so, I switched back to jeboo kernel but the battery life sucks! I'm going to wait a day or two and see if the problem goes away. Also, on this rom, I also sometimes when I unlock my phone, it always says preparing SD card. Its annoying.
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Yeah, so, I switched back to jeboo kernel but the battery life sucks! I'm going to wait a day or two and see if the problem goes away. Also, on this rom, I also sometimes when I unlock my phone, it always says preparing SD card. Its annoying.
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If your having these same issues across different roms like you are, run stock for like a week at least and see what happens. Not sure what you mean by switched to Jeboo as Sho4 comes stock with Jeboo tweaked for it.
Also if battery life is sucking that bad especially on roms known for battery life, 99% sure its time to replace the battery. Samsung shipped crap batteries in this phone that frequently die between 1.5-2 years. I've replaced mine, two employees have, few other i777 friends have etc.
How long have you been owned the phone's battery? The above poster mentioned battery usage which (if you're still rocking a day 1 release S2) the battery is at the 2 year mark. Might be time to get a replacement battery.
About a week and a half ago, my battery went from draining ten percent in a typical day (hour to an hour and a balf of constant use, browsing Facebook, web, email - if I really went ham I might go down in the 80s) to easily closing in on the 50s if not more.
I've tried several factory resets, gotten the lollipop upgrade that just hit, removed apps, upgraded apps - nothing. I'm on stock and haven't had this phone more than a month. Android System is typically the worst offender for battery usage according to the settings monitor.
Please help. I was so impressed and now I'm at a loss.
If you've done factory resets, then I would say, factory reset again and stay on stock apps. Don't install anything else. Monitor what happens with your battery life. My guess is, if you have installed other apps since doing the factory reset, it's an app that is misbehaving, even though you see android system being the main culprit. More than likely, it could be an app that isn't releasing resources correctly or hasn't been updated to run correctly with LP. That usually points to a sign of improper programming, or they haven't update their app yet to perform correctly under LP.
If things are running fine on stock, start adding your apps back one by one. Install one app, leave it for a few days and see what happens. if battery life stays the same, then move onto the next app. Hopefully, you'll find the app that's giving you issues.
If even with just stock apps you are having the issue, then it might be a hardware issue, possibly even battery. But, if it's been working fine before the LP update, I highly doubt that. My best guess is it's a misbehaving app.
I'm still having problems with nothing else but stock apps, unfortunately. The problem started shortly before the update - does that support that it's more hardware or more software related? The phone is still fairly new and though I know that doesn't rule out a bad battery, still kinda hoping I don't have to deal with Verizon and getting a replacement.
Talked to Verizon, they said "we checked, battery's fine." So... guess its not the battery? They said it "could take a month to normalize after the update."
I would buy a replacement battery and install it, see if that helps. They are cheap and it's good to have one anyway. The Ankers come in a 2-pack with a nice universal wall charger.
Verizon is not even bothering to check really, are they ? Did they even loan you a replacement to prove to you it's not a bad battery ? Doubt it. Do it yourself.
It really sounds like you are having excessive battery drain due to a wakelock problem like with Google's update service. Check around here for threads about how to diagnose and mitigate that.
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I didn't expect Verizon to help, but they definitely impressed with just how little they offered. I'm spending today with Wi-Fi and 4G off, unless browsing, for which I turn the latter on. In my half hour lunch I've noticed much, much better battery usage. Thoughts?
Edit: change of location seems to drain it quicker (school vs McDonalds parking lot - former worse than the latter). Signal was three bars in each, though.
I've looked a bit ino wakelocks but will read up on it more tonight. Problem I've found is how many detectors require root access, and I'm not real interested in rooting.
I just got my G3 last night and rooted it and did a few things to minimize battery drain and today, after almost 12 hours of light to moderate use my battery is still sitting at 81%.
Pretty sure there's a memory leak on stock vs985 lollipop... Or at least from what I had read and experienced