Upgraded my wife to a Rezound that came in yesterday. What the heck is up with the proprietary cable?
I thought we'd all moved past this nonsense. I had a standard Micro-USB cable with my Dinc2 that worked JUST FINE.
And before you all feel the need to tell me, yes I KNOW that a standard Micro-USB cable will still charge the Rezound, but why make the included cable different then?
Sorry for the rant. Carry on...
BustVZW said:
Upgraded my wife to a Rezound that came in yesterday. What the heck is up with the proprietary cable?
I thought we'd all moved past this nonsense. I had a standard Micro-USB cable with my Dinc2 that worked JUST FINE.
And before you all feel the need to tell me, yes I KNOW that a standard Micro-USB cable will still charge the Rezound, but why make the included cable different then?
Sorry for the rant. Carry on...
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Stupid rant. Its called an EXT-micro usb. It is EXACTLY the same to use your old cables, these are just more secure and keep dumbasses from forcing the plugs in upside down.
yeah man, it's def a more secure lock than the standard micro usb i believe. fits a lot more snug; maybe now we won't be seeing the problems we saw iwth the Inc 2, which was all of the usb charge ports coming lose on the board and having to be replaced!!
No, its a totally legit rant. This is my first micro-usb phone, and as such, the provided cable is the only one in the house. Most of my friends and my wife have micro-usb phones and none of them can use my cable in a pinch. HTC did the same thing with my TP2 and its mini ext port, and it was an annoyance more often than you would expect.
This "policy" only screws owners with a unitasker cable (alton brown anyone??), while providing no noticeable benefit (making sure its plugged in correctly? really? This cable doesnt make it easier to plug in blindly, and if you have to look at it to plug it in anyway, then regular micro-usb cables shouldn't be any problem...). I'm right there with ya, Bust
edit: I suppose a more stable connection, due to it being bigger than a standard micro port is a valid argument, but I havent had any problems with the standard micro cables that I've tried.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the advantages of the ext USB that it can also carry audio? I think this is what allows the MHL and hdmi adapters to work, as well as the car docks that you just set the phone in to charge and play audio. And since it is backward compatible, there seems to be no disadvantage to using the newer port.
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It's a stupid rant because a standard HTC micro USB cable is like 4 bucks shipped. If you have so many issues with it, buy the four dollar one. I prefer my the ext micro USB, the standard micro USB on my OG Droid sucked, always felt like I was going to break the damn thing.
Seriously, it's four bucks.
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Seriously, it's four bucks.
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I dont think anyone is complaining about the cost of extra cables, just the fact that the cable cant be used for anything else. I'd be picking up extra cables anyway. In my experience with the mini-ext, I loved the fact that I could use one of the 20 mini cables I had lying around. Seriously...cameras, mp3 players, mice, GPSs...everything had a cable that would charge my phone. The fact that the cable provided by HTC could only be used for one device just seemed silly to me. Its not a big deal, which may be a requirement of yours for rants to be considered valid, but it is a legit gripe...IMO.
BustVZW said:
Upgraded my wife to a Rezound that came in yesterday. What the heck is up with the proprietary cable?
I thought we'd all moved past this nonsense. I had a standard Micro-USB cable with my Dinc2 that worked JUST FINE.
And before you all feel the need to tell me, yes I KNOW that a standard Micro-USB cable will still charge the Rezound, but why make the included cable different then?
Sorry for the rant. Carry on...
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They did it just to piss you off .
Its a new standard... micro USB had similar rants about it... (just like any new standard) "I can't use my reguar USB cables with it, regular USB was fine blah blah" just like any new standard connection it takes people a while to catch up.
The complaint about single use cable... HDMI is single use yet no one complains about it.
This cable is a new standard that combines USB with a media (HDMI) connection. This allows us to have only one connection port on our devices rather than two. Which brings up the point that other phones had special one off connections for HDMI that required an adapter, and it took up extra room on the device.
Micro USB was pretty much the standard for phones for at least the past year and a half, (not just smart phones either) and all those cords are compatible with this new standard.
At least this is a new standard and not some HTC only crap.
I ordered my Rezound online. What pissed me off was .... I get my new phone and suddenly I can not charge the dam thing in my car because the plug is different than my Touch Pro 2 / old Motorola Q9 handset usb cord. Then I had to run up to the dumb VZW store and pay $32 for a proprietary car charger . Man, what a rip.
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I suppose in 2 years they will change it again and suddenly we all will have to buy that new $45 Nano-USB cord/adaptor. :s
You people do realize the normal micro USB cables fit in the Rezound right ?
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You people do realize the normal micro USB cables fit in the Rezound right ?
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Yeah from all the other posts I believe they do. I know I do and use them all over the place (work, car, bedroom, family room, etc.). I like the fact the new one snaps in and would love to get a couple more.
THE-COPS said:
I ordered my Rezound online. What pissed me off was .... I get my new phone and suddenly I can not charge the dam thing in my car because the plug is different than my Touch Pro 2 / old Motorola Q9 handset usb cord. Then I had to run up to the dumb VZW store and pay $32 for a proprietary car charger . Man, what a rip.
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I suppose in 2 years they will change it again and suddenly we all will have to buy that new $45 Nano-USB cord/adaptor. :s
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umm, you can get some standard micro usb cords. The tp2 and q9 handsets are quite old and use mini-usb's which haven't been the standard in about 2 years. you can also buy mini to micro usb adapters that plug into the mini usb and make it a micro usb. Cost me 5bucks a piece on amazon...
Or you could complain about not doing your homework before you bought the phone. Yeah, lets do that instead...
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini...4GOQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1324036647&sr=8-2
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NilsP said:
Yeah from all the other posts I believe they do. I know I do and use them all over the place (work, car, bedroom, family room, etc.). I like the fact the new one snaps in and would love to get a couple more.
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I would stick to the higher quality micro usb cords, like the ones that have come with other htc phones. Those have worked fine for me, but a split micro usb cord I use at work to charge my bolt and my hotspot caused my phone to overheat.
Not My Problem Other People Can't Use My Cable. It Would Be Nice And Generous As I Like To Be; I Can't Please Everyone.
Also Think Back Before The Micro-USB Almost Every Phone Has A Different Cable For Charging.
Marine6680 said:
This cable is a new standard that combines USB with a media (HDMI) connection. This allows us to have only one connection port on our devices rather than two. Which brings up the point that other phones had special one off connections for HDMI that required an adapter, and it took up extra room on the device.
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If this is true, I'll take back everything I said. Link?
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If this is true, I'll take back everything I said. Link?
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OK two things...
First, this is NOT ExtUSB. ExtUSB was what the older HTC devices had. It was compatible with the mini-USB. It combined mini-USB with audio out connections. (11 pin VS the standard 5, while normal USB was 4)
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That is the ExtUSB, it is shaped like the mini-USB but with only one bottom corner tapered.
Here is a picture of other styles as comparison. The type most used with mobile devices was mini-B, the new standard for phones is micro-B
Second, the Rezound uses MHL, it is compatible with both variants of microUSB cables.
Wikipedia page about MHL
Oh, and this too...
Um the cable fits my old incredible just turn it around stays in good as well.
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jcdrummr said:
No, its a totally legit rant. This is my first micro-usb phone, and as such, the provided cable is the only one in the house. Most of my friends and my wife have micro-usb phones and none of them can use my cable in a pinch. HTC did the same thing with my TP2 and its mini ext port, and it was an annoyance more often than you would expect.
This "policy" only screws owners with a unitasker cable (alton brown anyone??), while providing no noticeable benefit (making sure its plugged in correctly? really? This cable doesnt make it easier to plug in blindly, and if you have to look at it to plug it in anyway, then regular micro-usb cables shouldn't be any problem...). I'm right there with ya, Bust
edit: I suppose a more stable connection, due to it being bigger than a standard micro port is a valid argument, but I havent had any problems with the standard micro cables that I've tried.
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I don't know about you but I have numerous mico-USB cables sitting around from my older phones.
Marine6680 said:
OK two things...
First, this is NOT ExtUSB. ExtUSB was what the older HTC devices had. It was compatible with the mini-USB. It combined mini-USB with audio out connections. (11 pin VS the standard 5, while normal USB was 4)
That is the ExtUSB, it is shaped like the mini-USB but with only one bottom corner tapered.
Here is a picture of other styles as comparison. The type most used with mobile devices was mini-B, the new standard for phones is micro-B
Second, the Rezound uses MHL, it is compatible with both variants of microUSB cables.
Wikipedia page about MHL
Oh, and this too...
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It is an extMICRO usb, not an ext usb. Next time read a little better before trying to disprove something that was not even stated.
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It is an extMICRO usb, not an ext usb. Next time read a little better before trying to disprove something that was not even stated.
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The only device I heard of using extmicro is the flyer. Looking in our devices port it seems to be just 5 pins. I believe extmicro is 12 pin. I have a MHL adapter and I use a standard 5 pin micro usb cable with it and it works fine. It passes audio and video over the cable.
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The Expansys web site describes the Flyer as having a "standard micro-USB" connector.
The Flyer I have just unboxed and put on charge came with a micro-USB connector which was different even from the usual, half-squared off, HTC connector. This one has a cut-away at the top and (in a different axis) at the bottom.
I tried one of my older HTC USB connectors (Athena, Hero), but it resisted and I didn't want to force the issue, so the Flyer is charging on the connector it came with.
But is this for real? Have HTC changed the "standard" micro-USB for something propriety?
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The Expansys web site describes the Flyer as having a "standard micro-USB" connector.
The Flyer I have just unboxed and put on charge came with a micro-USB connector which was different even from the usual, half-squared off, HTC connector. This one has a cut-away at the top and (in a different axis) at the bottom.
I tried one of my older HTC USB connectors (Athena, Hero), but it resisted and I didn't want to force the issue, so the Flyer is charging on the connector it came with.
But is this for real? Have HTC changed the "standard" micro-USB for something propriety?
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Yes and no. It is a proprietary connector but microUSB cables still fit in the device. I've charged from a PC already and it works fine, although its SUPER SLOW.
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A: Flyer "standard micro-USB", note the cut-away on the top.
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B: standard micro-USB cable, note the straight top.
Plug B will not fit socket A.
Devany said:
B: standard micro-USB cable, note the straight top.
Plug B will not fit socket A.
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This is not a microUSB cable. It is a MiniUSB cable which is vastly different and does not fit in the flyer.
Thanks, but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG
Not a one there has a cut-away.
Nice thing about standards... there are so many of them.
Also, tried Google/Images for "micro usb" and all the various mini and micro usb cables I have. Not one of them has this propitiatory shape.
Have you got a link to something authoritative?
PS: Cooks? What's wrong with cooks? Do you mean crooks?
That is why I said yes and no. It is a propriatary connector that also allows for connection with microUSB. If you are familar with HTC devices many of their winmo devices had miniUSB Ext connectors which were propriatary but allowed for a regular miniusb connector to connect to it. That was before the microUSB standard was made.
Flyer Port
Plugged into the PC
Connected to standard microUSB
Charging status
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Devany said:
Thanks, but...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG
Not a one there has a cut-away.
Nice thing about standards... there are so many of them.
Also, tried Google/Images for "micro usb" and all the various mini and micro usb cables I have. Not one of them has this propitiatory shape.
Have you got a link to something authoritative?
PS: Cooks? What's wrong with cooks? Do you mean crooks?
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The micro-usb connector is the far left connector in your Wikidpedia link, the one you're holding / trying is the 3rd connector from the left which is a mini-usb.
Here are some pics with a generic sony ericsson mini-usb.
Sorry for the bad pics from my phone... and sorry for the duplicate pics... someone beat me to the upload.
f' I get it now.
Better get me some of these...
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/module.jsp?moduleId=cpc/548876.xml
Thanks
The port/connector is desined to stop you using the mains charger with other devices as it would "fry" them! This is why you can use a micoUSB connector with the Flyer.
Are you suggesting that if I used a micro to mini converter that I could fry the Flyer?
My issue is that I have several (proper, branded) HTC car chargers which have mini-usb connectors - which I used for the X7500/Athena.
A converter would mean I don't have to replace these chargers.
But the voltages would be the same, wouldn't they? USB current/voltages don't change depending on the cable... do they?
Hi
To buy a charger wouldn't cost much, but I use my gf blackberry charger on my dhd I thought it was battery that drew the charge.....
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The Flyer white mains adaptor is designed to stop you using it with another device. But you can use a standard micro usb with the Flyer port. I hope this is clear.
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Devany said:
Are you suggesting that if I used a micro to mini converter that I could fry the Flyer?
My issue is that I have several (proper, branded) HTC car chargers which have mini-usb connectors - which I used for the X7500/Athena.
A converter would mean I don't have to replace these chargers.
But the voltages would be the same, wouldn't they? USB current/voltages don't change depending on the cable... do they?
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You can use normal chargers on the Flyer, it'll just be slower. That's why their power adapter is different and much more potent for faster charging. And as Jah says, if you were to use the Flyer's charger with a phone it would most likely fry it as the phone isn't designed to handle those power levels (ergo the different plug, making it impossible to connect the flyer's adapter to another, incompatible, device).
The flyer has 12pin micro usb not 5pin to be used for hdmi output same like the in the htc incredible and htc sensation
Meh...I've tried three different micro-USB cables including an HTC variant from my Mozart, and although they sort of fit, none seem to go in far enough to charge or sync. Weird.
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Need to get this sorted ASAP.
The reason the Flyer has a 'Unique' micro-USB socket is that the charger is 1.5 AMPS. (And is a HDMI output)
This provides enough current for heavy use and charge at the same time.
Do not expect a standard micro-USB to charge your Flyer if you are using it, it will infact drain the battery!
A standard micro-USB cable will charge your Flyer if it is connected to a minimum 1Amp plug charger overnight and the Flyer is not in use.
Do not expect a Flyer to charge from a 500mA PCLaptop USB socket whilst you are using it!
Remember guys, this is much bigger than a mobile phone and even some of them would not correctly charge from a PC/Laptop USB.
Use your mains charger to charge it every night (or as much as possible) to keep it from going below 20%.
Do not expect it to charge from the sync cable (until we get 3rd party dual usb source cables as for some DVD writer drives).
THEN you will keep the life in your battery.
Soz for the bold font but wanted to get the message across.
twisticles said:
Meh...I've tried three different micro-USB cables including an HTC variant from my Mozart, and although they sort of fit, none seem to go in far enough to charge or sync. Weird.
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I've tried 3 or 4 different Micro-USB sync cables or chargers, and every one works. They plug in "upside-down" from how the plug goes into most Micro-USB devices that I am familiar with. Meaning, the spring-loaded prongs/teeth on the male plug should be facing down (if your Flyer is on a table, screen up), and you insert the male end in the lower "half" of the Flyer's port. Both sync and charge work.
A generic micro-usb will power and charge the Flyer. I use my laptop while traveling to accomplish this. When its charging, I'm usually not using it... I'm asleep.
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They plug in "upside-down" from how the plug goes into most Micro-USB devices that I am familiar with.
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ah...oops
twisticles said:
ah...oops
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Don't feel bad. I was making the same mistake, and don't know if I would have even figured it out, if I hadn't come on here and read about it. I didn't want to force it, or do anything that might damage the port, so I don't know if I would have thought to turn it upside-down on my own.
Why would HTC not put a standard micro usb port on this phone? I didn't realize until i had the phone at home or i may not have bought it. I have several useless cables now. Love the phone, Hate the charging port!
Most phones are geared for standard micro USB now. My moto miscro usb charger works on the Rezound, and so pretty much every cable I own does. So your problem is?
I never even tried to use one of my old chargers. the one that comes with the phone has that weird slit and looks totally different. i just assumed that they were different. I will have to try it out.
Havn't gotten my Rezound yet, but if it's anything like the Touch Pro 2. The stock adapter provides 1A of power and has a notch in it to prevent you from using that charger on anything unworthy.
Any Micro USB will work
I have a Touch Pro 2 and it took me 2 years to realize I could use a standard Mini-USB cable with it. I repaired and rebuilt my original USB cable when I could have just used one of the hundreds of regular ones lying around.
Point: I brought a standard micro-usb cable to the VZW store and made sure it worked in the Rezound before I bought it. It fits perfectly.
IMO HTC makes these ports this way so they can sell the HDMI adapter and other accessories and since they hold the patent on the plug shape they wont have any competition and it will be very difficult for hackers to reengineer a standard cable.
I hope this helps,
Dan
Why can people not search? This has been discussed. It is an mhl port. Your microusb chargers will work fine. And to the person who suggested patents, run a Google search. It isn't a proprietary HTC plug. The galaxy s II has the same port. Monoprice sells an adapter for $10. It is easy for companies to make 3rd party cables.
cveez11 said:
I never even tried to use one of my old chargers. the one that comes with the phone has that weird slit and looks totally different. i just assumed that they were different. I will have to try it out.
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I hope it works for you!
IMHO this MHL situation ROCKS. Micro USB is so fragile. In fact, my wife's DINC's port is all slutted out and barely works anymore. This MHL connector is longer and tougher than Micro USB and you get a solid 'click' when you insert the connector. Seems much more solid and reliable than any other design I've seen yet. Backwards compat with Micro USB is just icing.
-M
smw420 said:
In fact, my wife's DINC's port is all slutted out and barely works anymore.
-M
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Quote of the week right there lol.
ROFLMAO
10 char
I thought the same thing until I just tried my old charger and it works fine.
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I knew it was micro USB compatible instantly. My old Incredible has the same port
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con247 said:
Why can people not search? This has been discussed. It is an mhl port. Your microusb chargers will work fine. And to the person who suggested patents, run a Google search. It isn't a proprietary HTC plug. The galaxy s II has the same port. Monoprice sells an adapter for $10. It is easy for companies to make 3rd party cables.
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I love Monoprice.
The Rezound has a very interesting Micro-USB port that seems to have the outer shape similar to Mini-USB, but with the Micro-USB guts. The cable that comes with the phone has a rectangular plug that seems a bit longer and fits perfectly into the phone's jack. In fact, its amazing... to get the phone connected to it, you have to push the connector in until it 'clicks' into place - very solid.
My wife's DINC suffers from a slutted-out socket that now barely works anymore due to the standard Micro-USB design that seems pretty fragile. Even though a standard Micro-USB fits into the Rezound's unique socket, it doesn't have the solid feel that the OEM version has.
Does anyone know what this newer style connector is called? I would like to find a couple more cables that are longer and feel that by using this type of connector, the Rezound's port should last the life of the phone.
Thanks in advance!!!
-M
It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
Thanks dude...
A normal microUSB cable will still get the job done. It's just put in the reverse as it is on the Incredible. The tabs need to be facing up. I got 3 OEM HTC microUSB cables off ebay for like $7 bucks shipped. And the odd shaped end is probably some proprietary HTC connector, same as they had with the HeroCDMA with the miniUSB.
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It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
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No, it's a micro-A USB receptacle that supports MHL. There's a difference.
I would rather have the MHL cable... Feels more secure when plugged in..
Has anyone been able to find one on the internet or in store?
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yeah the security of the MHL cable is worth not using a standard micro USB. for instance when you're using a car charger w/ a standard micro USB, the cable can tug a bit on the connector(depending on length of cable, placement of phone) and cause it to come loose & stop charging... but with the micro A USB(MHL) it's nice & secure and you don't have to worry about that happening.
Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
punman said:
The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
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The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
Mordecaidrake said:
The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
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I did say that any other micro USB cable would work on the phone. I have a charger from every blackberry I ever owned, the Inc charger, and a couple miscellaneous cables lying around. It's just that the one that comes with the Rezound now has to go in its own special pile of cables (all by itself) because I can't use it with any other devices. Did not try with the old phone, though. Interesting that you say HTC's physical mods to the micro USB port are the same on the Inc and Rezound, yet the Rezound ships with a proprietary cable and my Inc came with a standard micro USB plug. I'll check when I get home.
it does seem at least that yes, any microUSB cable will work with the Rezound for both charging it and connecting it to your PC.
for the most part, you really only need the MHL support if you plan on going through HDMI out, which you'd then need an MHL/HDMI adapter cable anyway.
the only benefit to the cable that comes with the Rezound is the "snug fit" bit. whereas, it'd be nice if they had a car charger with the exact same micro A USB end to it as i find that all standard micro USB car chargers aren't as snug and depending on phone placement/movement, the connection can get a bit 'loose' and sometime stop charging.
i used to use this motorola car charger but because of how the cable pulled, the connection would constantly come loose unless i used tape to hold it in place.
It's not an MHL port. It's HTC's proprietary ExtMicro-USB port first seen with the HTC Flyer. An MHL port is a standard 5pin Micro-USB A/B port that detects when an MHL adapter is used, and uses those same 5 pins to support HDMI output. If you look at MHL ports on phones like the Evo 4G and Galaxy S II, they are indistinguishable physically from standard Micro-USB B ports. HTC's ExtMicro-USB is compatible with 5pin Micro-USB cables and 5pin MHL adapters. In fact, if you look at the HTC MHL adapter, it's shaped like a standard Micro-USB plug and only has 5 pins. What's different about ExtMicro-USB is that it has some extra pins compared to standard Micro-USB and MHL. I believe it has 6 extra pins, for a total of 11 pins. Those 6 extra pins are not used for MHL, for the reasons stated above. I'm not certain what those pins are used for, but if it's the same as the older ExtUSB (which is compatible with Mini-USB), then those extra pins are used for analog audio output, for use with stereo headsets, etc.
Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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The cable IS for the phone. You can use it to charge and sync. But the PORT can also be used to hookup an MHL adapter for HDMI output. That is IN ADDITION to charging or syncing via USB. The cable that comes with the phone just has a different connector yet is backwards compatable with any regular micro-USB cable.
I'm not sure why this is so confusing to people.
That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
etjrowe said:
That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
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Yea I have been trying to find this too. I was sent the Rezound as a CLNR for my Charge so I didn't even get the original USB cable that comes with the phone when you buy it. Sure the micro-usb cables work, but they feel pretty loose compared to other phones that are designed for micro-usb specifically.
ok guys this is NOT an MHL cable. as said before there is nothing special at all about it besides that it is a snugger fit. any micro usb will work with MHL and you still need the converter.
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Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
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It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
dabomb697 said:
It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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I know what you mean. I put the part number in and the one that came with the Inc kept coming up. This one looks like it has the same shape as the one that comes with the Rezound.
Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
krelvinaz said:
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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About a month ago I was browsing a website called "dudeiwantthat.com" that has all sorts of random cool stuff that I've often never heard of (I love that site). And I came across a reversible Micro-USB adapter, I believe the brand then was called McFlip, or something similar. I checked out and it didn't explain much, like whether it supported Quickcharge or anything like that. I was in the middle of something and kinda forgot about it. A couple days ago it popped back into my head and I asked a handful of friends if they've ever seen anything like that and they were all shocked to hear it existed. So I just googled the term to see if there were any others that ARE QuickCharge and found this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Cambond-Reversible-Charging-Braided-Connecting/dp/B00V3FRZPE
braided cable, QuickCharge, reversible Micro-USB adapter. I'll be picking up a few myself. But figured I'd let everybody else know in case some of you think it's as cool as I do. After having an S5 for so long, and what a pain it was just to plug that thing in, finding out there's a cable that i don't even need to worry about being upside down. And the pricing isn't bad for what looks like a durable cable that will be a cinch to use tired, in the dark, whatever. I plan to do a review for it when I get it. But if someone already has one, or gets one before me, please let me know how it is. IMO every micro-USB cable made now should be like this. Seems like common sense to me
I backed the MicFlip on Indegogo, and 1000 years later once I received the product, I was pretty disappointed. It was super finicky, only working if wiggled in my Nexus 6, and won't work in my s7 at all. Obviously other brands will vary, but that left a bad taste in my mouth for them.
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About a month ago I was browsing a website called "dudeiwantthat.com" that has all sorts of random cool stuff that I've often never heard of (I love that site). And I came across a reversible Micro-USB adapter, I believe the brand then was called McFlip, or something similar. I checked out and it didn't explain much, like whether it supported Quickcharge or anything like that. I was in the middle of something and kinda forgot about it. A couple days ago it popped back into my head and I asked a handful of friends if they've ever seen anything like that and they were all shocked to hear it existed. So I just googled the term to see if there were any others that ARE QuickCharge and found this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Cambond-Reversible-Charging-Braided-Connecting/dp/B00V3FRZPE
braided cable, QuickCharge, reversible Micro-USB adapter. I'll be picking up a few myself. But figured I'd let everybody else know in case some of you think it's as cool as I do. After having an S5 for so long, and what a pain it was just to plug that thing in, finding out there's a cable that i don't even need to worry about being upside down. And the pricing isn't bad for what looks like a durable cable that will be a cinch to use tired, in the dark, whatever. I plan to do a review for it when I get it. But if someone already has one, or gets one before me, please let me know how it is. IMO every micro-USB cable made now should be like this. Seems like common sense to me
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In the features section of that cable you linked, it days the USB end is reversible, not the micro usb end. So im not sure this cable solves any problems for me.
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Blitzwolf also make one, I just received it and its fantastic quality
happyantix said:
Blitzwolf also make one, I just received it and its fantastic quality
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Also have this is quick charge capable and it's superbly made.
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chriskwarren said:
In the features section of that cable you linked, it days the USB end is reversible, not the micro usb end. So im not sure this cable solves any problems for me.
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sorry about that. I know the McFlip was the micro side, but aparently it was a good concept with **** execution. But it sounds like there are some companies making quality ones with the reversible micro plug. Though it's almost too ironic that they finally come up with something like that just in time for the death of Micro USB. And USB-A as a whole for that matter
happyantix said:
Blitzwolf also make one, I just received it and its fantastic quality
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awesome. Thanks for that info. I was worried that they might be **** quality like the McFlip apparently is
why is the hyperlink a bizrate? Is that some sort of affiliate?
BelayCords that I backed on Kickstarter for Apple Lightning cables has been great. USB side reversible.
nexy33 said:
Also have this is quick charge capable and it's superbly made.
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Quick charge has nothing at all to do with the cable. It's negotiated between the phone and the charger. Any Micro USB cable will work.
52brandon said:
sorry about that. I know the McFlip was the micro side, but aparently it was a good concept with **** execution. But it sounds like there are some companies making quality ones with the reversible micro plug. Though it's almost too ironic that they finally come up with something like that just in time for the death of Micro USB. And USB-A as a whole for that matter
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It isn't possible to have a reversible micro USB plug. The female receptor is shape dependent, unlike the full sized USB connector which is non-shape dependent..
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It isn't possible to have a reversible micro USB plug. The female receptor is shape dependent, unlike the full sized USB connector which is non-shape dependent..
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Impossible yet it still exists... Mind = blown. Right?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417V2dN6tXL._SY200_.jpg
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PiousInquisitor said:
Impossible yet it still exists... Mind = blown. Right?
http://www.amazon.com/MicFlip-Reversible-Micro-Silver-Galaxy/dp/B0127192R6
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Not at all. The head rotates. It can still ONLY be inserted in one (and only one) orientation. It's the same thing as turning the cable upside down. You would simply be rotating by the head instead of the cable. If you try to insert the male micro USB head into the female receptor, it still will only work if it is turned the right way.
In contrast, the full sized USB head (in this case) can be inserted either way, without rotation.
The result is still that the micro USB connector side is still not reversible.
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Not at all. The head rotates. It can still ONLY be inserted in one (and only one) orientation. It's the same thing as turning the cable upside down. You would simply be rotating by the head instead of the cable. If you try to insert the male micro USB head into the female receptor, it still will only work if it is turned the right way.
In contrast, the full sized USB head (in this case) can be inserted either way, without rotation.
The result is still that the micro USB connector side is still not reversible.
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You don't read very well. Try it again.
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Tell us again how it can only be inserted one way. It sounds so magical when you say it...
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Not at all. The head rotates. It can still ONLY be inserted in one (and only one) orientation. It's the same thing as turning the cable upside down. You would simply be rotating by the head instead of the cable. If you try to insert the male micro USB head into the female receptor, it still will only work if it is turned the right way.
In contrast, the full sized USB head (in this case) can be inserted either way, without rotation.
The result is still that the micro USB connector side is still not reversible.
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Still only inserted in way eh?
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=gGyKJnAM2xo
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I have three of the McFlip cables. They all work fine. What I'm waiting on is one with a detachable magnetic tip. Hoping my ZNaps gets shipped soon!
I have the blitzwolf cable, and all I can say is WOW. I have had a lot micro usb cables, but never before such an awesome quality. The cable itself is so heavy and full of copper, you can bend it and then it stays that way. WOW.
The connectors, on both ends are reversible and of Mega high quality. not super-high, but mega-high. period