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New Atrix, unmodded. Tested on default storage setting set in either internal storage, or sd card.
16g sd card.
Card contains music, books and pictures.
File manager of the phone can see it and folders on it just fine, music player can see music files on it just fine.
Market bought music player( Power Amp) does not see SD card, it can only see internal storage as SD card.
Cool Reader- same- it thinks internal memory is SD card.
Neither can browse to the SD card.
Both apps worked with droid x and nexus s phones succesfuly before.
Apps that have ability to browse internal memory (tiny player and fbreader)- can go to /sdcard-ext/ and find files there.
Is there any way to make sure that apps, that are built to use SD card for their media would be able to see and use SD card, instead of "virtual" SD on the Internal Storage?
Thank You
onna said:
New Atrix, unmodded. Tested on default storage setting set in either internal storage, or sd card.
16g sd card.
Card contains music, books and pictures.
File manager of the phone can see it and folders on it just fine, music player can see music files on it just fine.
Market bought music player( Power Amp) does not see SD card, it can only see internal storage as SD card.
Cool Reader- same- it thinks internal memory is SD card.
Neither can browse to the SD card.
Both apps worked with droid x and nexus s phones succesfuly before.
Apps that have ability to browse internal memory (tiny player and fbreader)- can go to /sdcard-ext/ and find files there.
Is there any way to make sure that apps, that are built to use SD card for their media would be able to see and use SD card, instead of "virtual" SD on the Internal Storage?
Thank You
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Hi,
I had the same issue with a app called Slideshow Bob. I came from a Samsung Captivate and the file system was such that the external card was seen as a subdirectory of the internal card. I never had a problem with this arrangement in apps. However, the Atrix sees the external card as completely separate and some apps simply could not "see" the external card. My solution? I used a different slideshow app. Not exactly the ideal solution, but I had spent enough time trying to work around it. I don't know how other android devices have the external card arrangement, but this may be a bigger issue than we'd like until app developers change their apps or Motorola decides to change it's storage arrangement. Hope this helps.
Thank you for your answer,
using different apps is a work around.
I used different one- moved my content to the internal storage.
Both work.
What I realy would like to see is - those apps work as intended, the way they do work in most android phones from Droid to Nexus S.
onna said:
Is there any way to make sure that apps, that are built to use SD card for their media would be able to see and use SD card, instead of "virtual" SD on the Internal Storage?
Thank You
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Has anyone tried to replace the Music folder on internal storage with a symbolic link to the Music folder on external? Not sure if Android supports symbolics or not...
Should have known it would'nt be this easy. Tried it on existing SD and found that symbolic links are not supported on FATx. Reformatted my SD to EXT3/2 and booted back up. I get a SD format not recognized error.
Hi Guys,
I recently picked up a new galaxy s2 and but of course rooted it and installed cyanogenmod 7.1
The one problem i ve been faced with in an other wise perfect set up has been to do with the SD card.
I didnt realise that the internal memory (16gb) is actually partitioned into a internal drive of around 1-2gb and an internal SD card of around 14gb
See i have an external 32gb card, but the problem faced is it seems i can only either use the 32gb or the 16gb internal, not both at the same time (it can see both but paths one or the other down a root of mnt/emmc which cant be accessed by most apps
Is there any way to use both? Ideally i wanted my apps to be mounted on the 16gb and google music with its offline music to be mounted on the 32gb sd card?
Is there any way to achieve this?
No?
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Narzsa said:
Hi Guys,
I recently picked up a new galaxy s2 and but of course rooted it and installed cyanogenmod 7.1
The one problem i ve been faced with in an other wise perfect set up has been to do with the SD card.
I didnt realise that the internal memory (16gb) is actually partitioned into a internal drive of around 1-2gb and an internal SD card of around 14gb
See i have an external 32gb card, but the problem faced is it seems i can only either use the 32gb or the 16gb internal, not both at the same time (it can see both but paths one or the other down a root of mnt/emmc which cant be accessed by most apps
Is there any way to use both? Ideally i wanted my apps to be mounted on the 16gb and google music with its offline music to be mounted on the 32gb sd card?
Is there any way to achieve this?
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The internal (14 gb partition of the included 16gb) is /mnt/sdcard.
If you have an external SD card mounted, it will be /mnt/sdcard/external_sd.
Apps using Gingerbread's native apps to sd will always be on the internal sd card, as far as I know.
I can access both internal sd and external sd whenever I want.
I have mp3s stored on external sd, pictures from the camera saving to internal sd.
At least, this is how it is on MY phone.
Hi mate,
cyangenmod let's you play swaps with what one is mounted as sdcard and emmc
None of my apps though can see the other card, except for esfile manager and titanium backup
ideally also for what I want, I need to move apps over to both since I want to dedicated the 32gb card to google music and offline music storage
Your question is what happens already? All apps are automatically installed on your Internal SD and then you put the music manually on your external SD. Not sure if troll or...
I'm honestly not trolling but maybe I'm missing a trick as google music won't see that card?
Also I was hoping to use the offline function built into google music to download the songs to that card so I can pick and chose albums on the fly
Ah, I missed the part where this is a CyanogenMod feature. I don't use CyanogenMod right now, so I'm not familiar with this feature. Can't help you, sorry.
You might want to post to the CyanogenMod forum since this is a feature specific to that ROM. (both the thread here on XDA and on the CM forums)
I took a new 32GB mSD, copied directories of music, ringtones, TiBu files, etc. to the root directory of the mSD in preparation for the Note (using a computer, directly to SD). I do this with all of my new Android devices.
I rooted the Note before I did anything with it, and popped in the mSD and started the phone.
The first thing I noticed was that TiBu did not find any files in the default backup directory. After some looking, I found that all those directories I copied to the root (again, using a computer), are now under a directory called external_sd.
I shut down the phone, took out the mSD, popped it into the computer, and all I see are the directories I copied, right off of root.
Using Root Explorer--I see that /sdcard is /dev/block/vold/179:28 and external_sd is mounted at /dev/block/vold/179:33.
Why is this? I have had about fifteen Android phones and none behaved like this.
Thanks.
When you hook your note up to the computer do both sd cars mount separately ?
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I have only used Samsung Android devices, but out of all of them that I have had, each one has behaved this way. They mount the external sd card inside a folder inside the internal sd card.
The Note (and other galaxy phones) use the internal storage as the "SDcard". The actual SD card will show up like you said under external_sd. Most if not all apps work off the SDcard. You can however direct TB to use the external_sd.
I have a separate problem all together were my music files do not show up on either storage.
This is because the Samsung Galaxy line (and the Infuse) have a 2 gb system partition as well as in internal 16gb SD card which is labeled SD and an external SD card slot which will accept up to a 32gb MicroSD card. The external SD card is referenced as external_SD on your phone. It's just the mount point that Samsung chose for the external SD card.
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MobileData said:
This is because the Samsung Galaxy line (and the Infuse) have a 2 gb system partition as well as in internal 16gb SD card which is labeled SD and an external SD card slot which will accept up to a 32gb MicroSD card. The external SD card is referenced as external_SD on your phone. It's just the mount point that Samsung chose for the external SD card.
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--Mike
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I have the Sandisk 64gb MicroSD in mine and its been perfect. Several others on the note forums have the 64gb as well. 32gb isn't the maximum size.
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Thanks for all the replies and explaination. I have an Epic 4G, which is a Galaxy S, but it does not have the internal SD. I will have to check my Galaxy Nexus to see how it is.
Follow up questions:
1) I used SanDisk Memory tool and saw that the Internal Memory is shown as being "x.x (bytes) of 10.8 GB Free". I thought the Internal is 16GB?
2) Is there a way to force the phone to use the external SD as the SDCARD? I have a class 10 card, I'm not concerned about performance, and I rather have a memory card that I can remove. It makes it easier to transfer large video, picture, backup, or music files.
Thanks.
I have an infuse and anything I put on the external microsd is seen by the phone- apps installer sees the apk's, e-readers can find my books, etc.
On the note, I have the same set up on my external sd card. But the apps installer does not see the apk's, the books are not seen. The only way I can install the apk's is thru the file explorer- the stock one. I am completely stock. When you go to the storage, you see the ext. sd card has content by the amt of space left.
What the Note did find were my ringtones- sms and reg. ringtones- and were selectable by the Note sound settings and contacts.
So the external micro sd cards are being seen differently by the Infuse and the Note.
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If you go in preference of ti, u can tell it to search whole device it will find it on micro sd.
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Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
GalNote said:
Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
lactardjosh said:
There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
GalNote said:
Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
GalNote said:
Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
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Open your file explorer,go to mnt in root folder there is your SD card
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Problem is they dont show "Root" or "mnt" folder.
wgizmo said:
Hello,
I did bought orginal Samsung mincro SD card 32gb class 10. I did put inside to the phone and first what i did after phone did show me space 29gb i did format it from phone options in settings of storage. After format i did reboot my phone just in case. Now i did plug in phone to my pc and all do work fine. My pc see Internal and external storage on my phone. After when i did copy files to my external memory of my phone and do unplug micro usb i cant see my external sd card on my phone. In apps like winamp/RockPlayer/BSPlayer/ES File Explorer...all what i can see is only sdcrad which is internal memory. I cant see external memory at all.
Best thing is when i do put movie anywhere on external sd card by usb/pc and run build in samsung app "Video Player" its see video form external sd! I dont know whats going on and i did have S2/Dell Streak/Note and never had problem like this before.
Any help would be nice.
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[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
wind0zer said:
[TOOL] DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req. - xda-developers
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Thank you for link but i dont need data transfer. My problem si why i cant see external sd card in any of apps. When i do swich on winamp there is music from external sd card, when i do swich on build in video player i do see videos form external sd card but there is no way i can explore external sd card using any of explore apps or any other app where you can search files by folders. There is no Root folder or mnt.
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
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wgizmo said:
Oki small update. I just did give a go to one more app "Root browser lite" and i can see all folders and sys files. Looks like problem is with moust of apps which can't handle way of G3 works with external sd card. I'm right?
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Yes you're right. The s3 and other devices that have like 16/32 GB internal memory uses part of it for system and the rest is mounted as "sdcard"when infact it's internal memory. In addition to this sdcard there's the real sdcard which is mounted as external-sdcard. Many apps are programmed to look for only sdcard and not ext-sdcard. For such programs creating a symlink using the above tool that I posted will help it "see" contents/folders of the ext-sdcard.
As you mentioned some programs can and some can't browse/see ext-sdcard - if it's absolutely necessary, creating a symlink is the only option I can think of.