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Firstly, I use mVideoPlayer pro (an excellent video player) which doesn't include any software decoding. The player only uses the soc codecs but adds subtitle support and it recognizes the .mkv extension.
The latest version now supports:
- srt, ssa, ass, sub/idx, mpl, smi, txt, sub, sami.
- Internal MKV Subtitle (srt, ssa, ass)
Anyway, I have 2 identical video samples (.mkv), but only one of them will play. (using mvideo or stock player).
I am wondering if this is a software bug and if anyone has had the same issues?
The samples are both H264 MPEG4 AVC, 23.97 frames with DTS Audio (no audio is expected). One video is 1280x544 and the other is 1280x532. The only difference is that one has internal subtitles and the other does not.
Any info would be appreciated.
I'm having similar issues . One video will play audio just fine but will freeze playing the video a few seconds in but continue with audio. The other video is just extremely stuttery. I don't have codec specifics or video specifics at the moment but it is an issue .
Grrr!
Animatorman said:
I'm having similar issues . One video will play audio just fine but will freeze playing the video a few seconds in but continue with audio. The other video is just extremely stuttery. I don't have codec specifics or video specifics at the moment but it is an issue .
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Funny enough, some of my videos start off blocky or have that green video effect for the first 2 seconds, but then play fine afterwards. I don't get any freezing during play. If a video starts to play, it continues fine for me. (Although, I haven't watched a full length movie as yet).
Did you get the 2 HTC updates? I did a check for HTC updates and factory reset my phone as soon as i got it. (lost the stupid hornet movie)
I am downloading more 720p video samples for testing. it may be the internal subs causing my issue, which would be strange.
(EDIT: xvid has the same problem, some video plays some don't)
1Ghz hummingbird puts all of these dual core ***** SOC's to shame. Long live Galaxy Tab 7 and Galaxy S!
Wow, this app seems really nice. I was using the latest rockplayer because it had hardware decoding, but I noticed that it wouldn't play audio on any of my 720p mkvs. This app looks much more polished, and the video plays back every bit as smoothly, but it appears to have the same problem of not playing any audio along with the video. God, we're so close!!
Oh, I tried samples with DTS and some that were just 720p rips from broadcast tv, and neither had audio. For that reason, I didn't test enough of the video to verify your issues, sorry for the threadjack.
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Wow, this app seems really nice. I was using the latest rockplayer because it had hardware decoding, but I noticed that it wouldn't play audio on any of my 720p mkvs. This app looks much more polished, and the video plays back every bit as smoothly, but it appears to have the same problem of not playing any audio along with the video. God, we're so close!!
Oh, I tried samples with DTS and some that were just 720p rips from broadcast tv, and neither had audio. For that reason, I didn't test enough of the video to verify your issues, sorry for the threadjack.
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It wont play DTS audio and that is expected. Only my Archos 101 could play DTS audio out of the box, but Archos added that decoding feature.
Try encoding with Handbrake, the default setting will convert the DTS audio to MPEG AAC stereo.
So I tried more random MPEG4 AVC with DTS videos and I am very confused:
video #1 1280x720 had subs, didn't play
video #2 1920x800 no subs, video played
video #3 1280x534 no subs, didn't play
video #4 1280x720 no subs, video played
More tests:
I used mediainfo and compared codec data between several video files that played and some that didn't play and they all look the same.
I even used mkvmerge GUI to remove the audio and subtitles out of some of the videos just to see if that would work, but they still didn't play.
try dice player.
diceplayer can play 720p H.264 High + DTS +MKV flawlessly.
with gesture control ( brightness / volume ) + external subs + embedded subs
This is old, but I haven't found any related threads so just confirming that 720p MKV playback works flawlessly on the Xperia arc (all builds, firmwares). Unfortunately, it's only with the PAID app DicePlayer: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.dice
It works with all the efnet MKVs I've downloaded (TV shows) but failed with some Blu-Ray ripped MKVs with embedded subtitles.
It's available as a trial to test first: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial
YouTube 720p (HQ) also works flawlessly.
HDMI output/mirroring is put to good use with 720p playback (and yes, HDMI output works on any display/TV, not just Sony).
Hi,
I just tried playing one 720p .mkv file ( an old Sienfeld episode) and it does not work smoothly neither with MoboPlayer or DicePlayer .... only works in software mode with both players.
Not all mkv files are the same, so I will try more .....
just tried again with 3 files, two were samples from movies 70mb and 25mb and one full episode, about 400mb , all of them 720p mkv.
NONE played ok with MoboPlayer or DicePlayer, actually both worked only in software mode, video was laggy, sound was delayed or totally crashed. One of the files played almost OK and I think is just a matter of bitrate. It would be very good to know if there is one player that can use hw acceleration for .mkv 720p files.
Well .mkv is just the file container. You'll need to check what codecs are actually used for audio and video compression, if you want to find out what works and what not.
You are right.
mkv is the container. The most usual codecs are .x264 and VC-1
But if the bitrate is too high the files will not be properly played
I use MX Video Player to play videos.
It uses HW acceleration if possible and if not software decoding.
Mx video player is the best player at this time
Just download
1) MX video player Pro 1.3C apk (This pro file easily available just search in Google)
and
2) MX video player Codec for AMRv7 apk (This file is free in market just search in market)
Only MX Video PRO can play HD videos in the proper way? I've just started it out on my Dell Streak 7 and the video was lagging. :/
Best MKV 720 Video Player till now .
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thanks a lot, I'll try it out!
I'm using MX video player on neo v and is working fine.
Select the Mobile BRAVIA Engine while playing mkv files.
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i'm using "Kascend Video" player..play smooth with 720p MKV video..^^
BSPlayer also uses hardware acceleration.
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I just want to paste this post from Q&A section so it can be helpful to as much people as it can:
I use Dice player to play mkv videos but not all mkv videos can be played i H/W mode and I think I know why. Developer of DicePlayer wrote in description that Xperia arc can play "720p [email protected]/4.0(some Level 4.0 file have shutter problem)" videos. From what I know scene releases of tv shows and hd movies now need to be converted with 4.1 profile so our arc/arc s can't play it. There is no need to reconvert video to change Profile Level do 4.0 or 3.1 thanks to H264 Level Editor tool. It can change level within 1 second. Tested with justified.s03e04.720p.hdtv.x264-compulsion.mkv. Changed level from 4.1 to 4.0 and still couldn't play it via DicePlayer so I changed it to 3.1 and it worked like a charm.
Don't know why but video still can't be played in MX Video Player.
I just hope this can be usefull to somebody having touble with playing 720p mkv videos.
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I just want to paste this post from Q&A section so it can be helpful to as much people as it can:
I use Dice player to play mkv videos but not all mkv videos can be played i H/W mode and I think I know why. Developer of DicePlayer wrote in description that Xperia arc can play "720p [email protected]/4.0(some Level 4.0 file have shutter problem)" videos. From what I know scene releases of tv shows and hd movies now need to be converted with 4.1 profile so our arc/arc s can't play it. There is no need to reconvert video to change Profile Level do 4.0 or 3.1 thanks to H264 Level Editor tool. It can change level within 1 second. Tested with justified.s03e04.720p.hdtv.x264-compulsion.mkv. Changed level from 4.1 to 4.0 and still couldn't play it via DicePlayer so I changed it to 3.1 and it worked like a charm.
Don't know why but video still can't be played in MX Video Player.
I just hope this can be usefull to somebody having touble with playing 720p mkv videos.
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Good to know.
Download link to the tool: http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/h264leveleditor#download
* Update *
Youtube Video Samples below for comparison - some compression artifacts showing there, not from the sony tablet playback (it was flawless on either mode), most likely youtube recompression tools
Hi,
I bought one of these tablets just yesterday - 16GB version - and so far I'm extremely pleased with it! Typing is a breeze, image quality is superb, gaming is pretty decent even for 3D, I bought Riptide GP after upgrading Honeycomb to 3.2, but I'm having issues with HD mkv playback.
Basically, watching 720p or 480p even (anime mkv files) I get jerky video playback when the movie player is set to HW mode. The jerks are subtle and steady, but mostly noticeable especially on panning scenes. If I change the player settings to SW or Fast SW, playback is smooth but slightly less quality there (but totally fine though). I've tried several players other than the built-in video player and results are the same.
HD flash plays OK, so I don't think this is a hardware performance issue, probably some HW / codec compatibility issue....
Can anyone else confirm this? Horriblesubs releases (Naruto Shippuuden / Fairy Tail).
SD xvid releases play just fine, both HW and SW settings on the player.
Better .h264 codec support perhaps?
(apparently, not .h264!)
Oh, and quite pleased with the fact that video files can in fact be played directly from the SD card, without having to copy them to the internal memory storage!
I tried posting from the XDA free app in the Market, but somehow, it crashes everytime I try to post from it, so I'm using the android browser - already submitted a report.
Video Info:
Codec 4CC: AVC1
Image Size: 1280x720
Frame Rate: 23.976 fps
Global Motion Compensation: No
packet Bitstream: No
Quarter Pixel: No
Audio:
Codec: AAC
Channels: Stereo
Bitrate: 16000 Bps / 128 Kbps
Variable Bitrate: No
Frequency: 44100 Hz
SW Mode (Fast): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiAj80cC0s8
HW Mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AXWH3RE-R4
wickwire said:
Hi,
I bought one of these tablets just yesterday - 16GB version - and so far I'm extremely pleased with it! Typing is a breeze, image quality is superb, gaming is pretty decent even for 3D, I bought Riptide GP after upgrading Honeycomb to 3.2, but I'm having issues with HD mkv playback.
Basically, watching 720p or 480p even (anime mkv files) I get jerky video playback when the movie player is set to HW mode. The jerks are subtle and steady, but mostly noticeable especially on panning scenes. If I change the player settings to SW or Fast SW, playback is smooth but slightly less quality there (but totally fine though). I've tried several players other than the built-in video player and results are the same.
HD flash plays OK, so I don't think this is a hardware performance issue, probably some HW / codec compatibility issue....
Can anyone else confirm this? Horriblesubs releases (Naruto Shippuuden / Fairy Tail).
SD xvid releases play just fine, both HW and SW settings on the player.
Better .h264 codec support perhaps?
Oh, and quite pleased with the fact that video files can in fact be played directly from the SD card, without having to copy them to the internal memory storage!
I tried posting from the XDA free app in the Market, but somehow, it crashes everytime I try to post from it, so I'm using the android browser - already submitted a report.
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I am having the same problem you described? Is this typical on all android tablets?
Looks like i'll need to convert unfortunately... I wonder if there is an app for that.
Unless it is a codec issue and there is an alternative codec or fix..
I'm curious, do you feel the quality between HW mode and either SW mode available to be that worse? I'm using SW for now on these particular files, I was thinking about converting the files original formats but SW still seems pretty good I think! I will try to snapshot the differences and post them here!
Hadn't noticed before, the tablet comes with 3 HD sample videos inside all play just fine, no jerks - seems more and more like a specific codec compatibility issue with tegra possibly, to me...
A software issue. I can play videos fine on my Jetstream and Ipad2 which play badly on the tablet S.
So it isn't an android issue.
For MKV playback try DicePlayer and install the Diceplayer plugin for tegra.
Try the trial version to see it meets your requirements (before buying).
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Diceplayer uses HW video decoder.
It use HW video decoder at various containers and audio codecs combination. ( H.264/AC-3/MKV, H.264/DTS/MKV , H.264/AAC/MOV )
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yhzhrm said:
For MKV playback try DicePlayer and install the Diceplayer plugin for tegra.
Try the trail version to see it meets your requirements (before buying).
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Diceplayer uses HW video decoder.
It use HW video decoder at various containers and audio codecs combination. ( H.264/AC-3/MKV, H.264/DTS/MKV , H.264/AAC/MOV )
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Tried it, perfect playback with the plugin - bought it already, many thanks!
yeah DicePlayer indeed the best HW accelerated player in the market... support MKV, AC3 audio codec, subs... wooot
exkaizen said:
yeah DicePlayer indeed the best HW accelerated player in the market... support MKV, AC3 audio codec, subs... wooot
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+1 I tried out MX player too but found that DicePlayer had smoother playback.
Working container / video / audio combo and easy conversion
I've tested several combinations of container / video / audio formats with several players. First of all, I didn't notice any significant differences in playback quality between the players I tried, but I might not have tried Dice player for all of the combos.
I did try MX Video Player, mVideoPlayer, MoboPlayer and BS Player Lite, with a 720p h264 encoded video track at about 3000 kbps. For all players, I found the SW decoding modes to insufferably slow and jerky - I assume a lower bitrate in the video track might fix that. Per hardware acceleration, the video always played fine (when it played at all, see format details below).
These combos did NOT work:
mkv/mp4 container, h264 encoded video, mp3 audio
mkv container, h264 encoded video, ac3 audio (plays the video hw accelerated, but doesn't play the sound at all)
mkv container, h264 encoded video, aac audio
The only combo that did work flawlessly was this:
mp4 container, h264 encoded video, aac audio
I now had the problem that my standard video encoding tool, handbrake, cannot transcode files without also recoding the video file - and why would I want to recode the video when usually it's a h264 encoded video that will play with the right container & audio? The easiest way to transcode such a file is to use ffmpeg - I did this under linux, but it should work the same for Windows:
Code:
ffmpeg -i INPUTFILE.mkv -vcodec copy -acodec libfaac -ab 160k -ar 48000 -async 48000 OUTPUTFILE.mp4
I couldn't figure out a way to easily transcode mkv files where the video track has a variable bitrate (VFR) - I had to recode those with handbrake. If anyone has a simpler method that doesn't involve avisynth / is available for linux, I'd be happy to hear it.
DicePlayer rocks. I tried various apps but only did DicePlayer works. Tested with a 1080 h.264 movie and the quality was STUNNING! Definitely worth the money
By the way, Honey does not support H.264 natively so most of the players out there won't work
zenithz said:
DicePlayer rocks. I tried various apps but only did DicePlayer works. Tested with a 1080 h.264 movie and the quality was STUNNING! Definitely worth the money
By the way, Honey does not support H.264 natively so most of the players out there won't work
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Thanks for the heads up and for the good news! Downloading now!
Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
EDIT solved with bs player
Try moboplayer its free.
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or MXPlayer I have used that on many MKVs
compuw22c said:
Hey guys, just got a few 720p high profile mkv files which reviews claimed could be played with the stock video player. All 3 files currently do not. Dice player works in trial but when i try to buy it gives me not found in the market. I'd rather usethe built in player personally but has anyone else had any luck either way?
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I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
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erick0423 said:
I got same problem,but i used mx player and upnp , works flawless
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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I use the exact same
mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
Unbelievable , this still not resolved after the Tegra 2 debacle.
i've played a couple mkv's just fine with the stock player and mx player. the only issue i've had with them is if i skip around, the video never picks back up, works fine in software though.
but if i just watch the movie through without skipping around, it plays perfectly.
as you can see here ICS has added support to the Matroska format, so hopefully the default player will be handling it smoothly in ICS.
hXXp://briefmobile.com/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-announced-feature-list
replace hXXp with http in link.
That's good to know. Was thinking of cancelling my preorder once I heard people having problems with mkv's & diceplayer being unavailable
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mx player works well but there's no hardware decoding available in any of them. Very disappointed ( though I know the hardware is capable of it). I know anandtech? Or one of the reviews did a blu ray rip and it played great so I'm guessing I'm missing something, an update broke it or if will be fixed in ics. Is also possible they just need hardware drivers for tegra3. I'm optimistic, is launch week, well have awesome devs, it'll get sorted eventually. Even software decode stutters just a bit ( I'm a video perfectionist). Also peeved at xda app FCs but again, brand new device. Just let me know if anyone (particularly those who didn't update) has any better luck.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
Go and Download BSPlayer lite from the market. It has the same funtionality like Diceplayer. Tegra 3 can nearly play all 1080p vids.
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How were these files encoded? Because in order to take advantage of hardware decoding a file has to meet a certain standard. If it deviates even a tiny bit, it will not work.
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Well its h264 high profile, which tegra 3 plays. Tegra 3 isn't picky, as long as its less than a 42mbps bitrate the hardware will handle it. The only standard it must meet is 1080p and less and 42mbps or less in h264 anyways. For tegra 3, i'm sure software is the issue.
Files came from my media server which are also hw accelerated with an nvidia graphics card via vdpau. never even have to check, just always plays (h264 anyways)
Again, i'm sure they'll fix it eventually,I know the chip does it, still annoying., its why I never bought tegra 2. And for those suggesting software decode, battery life PLUMMETS and the performance we would have with hw decode would be as good or better than blu ray with no stutter.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
EDIT:BS player appears to work WITH hardware acceleration. Every other app told me "not supported by system player, using software device" including dice
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Prime will handle highprofile mkv just fine if you use a other media player like mxplayer, diceplayer The problem when you can't play with the stock player is that it for the most times can't handle the audio.
Just give them some time to update there players to full Tegra3 support. The device have only been out some days and I think the developers also would like to have a device to test on.
I have posted this in a other thread, but I will repost it here to. From swedroid.se test, and translated into English.
"As is the case for the music player, Asus do net onclude their own video players, but instead uses default player that comes with Android. This is a rather rowdy players who only manages one of our clip in the table below (# 9), but without any sound, because support for AC3 missing."
"The third-party video player dice player or MX Video Player, both of which are available in the Android Market, it is however full marks. ASUS Prime plays everything we feed it with, whether it is DivX, XviD or MKV / h (x) 264-films with soundtracks in DTS or AC3 format."
Resolution / Codec / Profile / Container / Bitrate / Audio / Results (MX Video Player
640x352 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
576x320 XviD / [email protected] / AVI 1,4 Mbit/s MP3 2.0 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 3 Mbit/s AC-3 5.1 OK
720p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 9 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 14 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 19,2 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 22,8 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 25 Mbit/s DTS 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 30 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
1080p h.264 / [email protected] / MKV 42 Mbit/s AC3 5.1 OK
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@OP
Have you tried a straight MP4 (H264/AAC) with standard Android player? You do realize that it's not just the video track that kicks the (3rd-party) player into HW or SW mode, right? Subtitles, for instance, will invoke SW mode. Chapter tracks will also probably cause SW.
As much as you sound you know, then you should also know that not every downloaded video is the same. If you have problems, SOP is first to provide specs (MediaInfo works), second is to provide a sample, third is to specify environment (which player you've tried, and their respective performance). Only noobs go "my vids don't work, now what?"
With the non-info you've provided, all you get is guesswork.
What do you mean by " files came from a media server"? If you are streaming to the device, expect skipping playback because WiFi can't handle hi-bitrate 1080p.
I have no issues running 720p or 1080p hi profile (locally) on my Transformer Prime in Dice player, even with DTS and multiple audio tracks.
people need to realise 3rd party players need to be optimised for tegra 3 for hardware acceleration. its not to do with type of file, as long as it does not have very high bitrate.
Everyone has to understand, that MKV is just a container. You can put almost anything into this container so therefore it is unlikely that the hardware can decode everything that can go into a MKV container.
The main thing about the Kal-El SoC, it is the first chip that can decode h.264 High Profile video. To see the supported codecs that Tegra 3 can decode in hardware see: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html
I've ripped hundreds of blu-rays. I've ended up using two sets of files.
Archive for playback on Samsung LED TV's and other high end DLNA devices:
Container: MKV
Video: H.264 High Profile 4.0 Constant Quality 18-20 1080p
Audio: AAC-LC 384 5.1 channel
Subtitles: sub format
Software: HD Decrypter, RipBot264 and Handbrake
Mobile Devices:
Container: m4v
Video: H.264 Base 3.0 Profile, 2-pass (1000kbps widescreen and 1200kbps for 16x9) qHD size (960x540),
Audio: AAC-LC 128 2 channel
Subtitles: Converted from the MKV
Software: Handbrake
I spend most of the time make the archive format looking as good as possible for it's size. Most files come out to 4-7GB per movie. There are exceptions depending on the quality of the movie. Movies with lots of noise in them come out to be much larger then one that is very clean. Computer Generated movies will come out to 3-4GB using CQ 18. The Prime should decode these just fine.
The mobile size I use for under powered devices and also to have as many movies as possible for it's size. qHD actually ends up looking very nice for it's size when down converted from blu-ray. A two hour movie comes out to be about 1GB. This way I can have on average 60-70 movies on 64B microsdxc card and about the same on the 64GB prime itself.
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
compuw22c said:
sorry, but I felt I provided all necessary info. The files are stored locally, mkv h264 high profile 20mbps streams with ac3 5.1 audio. They also have subtitles, though I don't need them.tpb was the source of all 3.
In any event, bs player works with hardware acceleration perfectly and I'm very happy. It also shows the hardware is fully capable of it, software will soon follow (ics)
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According to the Tegra 3 specs, AC3 is not supported in hardware.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-superchip.html
The video playback on my SGT 10.1 is really poor. MX video player stutters when the default hw decoding is set. On sw decoding it is fine but surely hw decoding should be better not worse.
Also, Flash Playback is awful. Really choppy playback.
Is this normal?
Depends on what type of video you are trying to play. This device cannot play High Profile H.264 videos smoothly at the moment (Most x264 videos people download now a days are High Profile).
I haven't come across any flash videos that wouldn't play smoothly but I haven't really tried any super resource intensive ones.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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