I need the latest DockServices.apk & PortalApp.apk files that have not been modified for the Webtop hack. I need them so I can startup the Webtop when i connect my Electrify to my modded Atrix Lapdock. Any help with these two files would be greatly appreciated! TIA!
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Thanks for your help joker but I still cannot get the WEbtop interface without the modded WEbtop Hack DockSErvices and PortalApp apk files. That's no good because the keyboard and trackpad won't work.
Can anyone modify the WEbtop hack files to utilize the keyboard and trackpad on the lapdock? SEe below for what I have tried and results so far.
I am using a refurbished Lapdock and am starting to think that maybe it's the lapdock!
I was able to get the Webtop interface to come on twice after I opened the box the first time. Both times, it was while the cables were loose and the phone was sitting flat behind the lapdock on a table. However, the Webtop would not come on right away, it would take a few minutes and then the phone screen would go dark (no backlight but you could still see the clock on the screen) and the webtop UI would come on...on the lapdock.
After dremeling it all down flat (at Mean flat) I was unable to get webtop to come on again. So, I downloaded the WEbtop hack with modified Dockservices and PortalApp files for the photon. INstalled them and viola I had instant recognition of the phone and it offered me the WEbtop option at the top of the HDMI options screen on the phone. Offered Webtop, Gallery, Music, and Mirror. The Webtop option works but the trackpad and keyboard do not work on the Lapdock. Not acceptable for me.
I figure it must have something to do with the drivers. So, I asked for help for the Photon's unmodified DockServices and PortalApp apks. I installed them and they worked but don't offer me the WEbtop option period. So, no joy!
I took the tray apart again and hooked it up with the cables loose and cannot get the WEbtop experience again at all. (This based upon original Electrify files) I am going to reinstall the Photon unmodded files and see if it will work with the cables loose. I am hooking up the USB first but get no reaction from the phone or lapdock until I hook up the HDMI cable.
Anyone got any ideas. I am thinking I got a cheap HDMI monitor right now....worse case scenario! LOL I paid $75 for it so it was worth the risk.
I have something that may be similar that happens to me. Did you by chance do any mods to change the resolution of your webtop over HDMI cable? Meaning did you edit the file in the osh folder to support higher resolutions? I did this based off one of the guides in this forum, and I have noticed something strange. If you have done this, then you know that the phone becomes a track pad mouse with a virtual keyboard option. When I have the resolution set to the preinstalled Motorola resolutions (1280x720, etc), the phone works as a mouse pad with no problems, and responds correctly. But, if I raise the resolution, in my case to 1680x1050, the touchpad stops responding. A bluetooth mouse and keyboard still work perfectly, but the phone won't interface.
Have you tried plugging in a USB mouse? Just to see if it's something related to the dock? If a USB mouse works, try a USB keyboard. That might help you get to the bottom of the mystery.
Next time post this in the Q&A Area, this is NOT an Accessories post, other than the mention of your Atrix dock.
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I picked up LogMeIn Ignition from the Amazon Market when it was on sale this past weekend (still $15). I was wondering if anyone had experience using it over webtop. I have heard some folks using the web app via Firefox in webtop just fine.
Getting a laptop dock for Christmas and have never used webtop before. Excited to give it a try.
FYI the laptop docks are on sale at AT&T, 99bucks new and 75 for a refurb.
If you're using the webtop you can use Logmein through the browser and don't need an app.
I haven't tried it so I'm not sure how the performance is, but that's how I'd do it.
Yeah that's what I've been reading as well. I might have to break out the HDMI cord and see for myself before the laptopdock gets here.
Please update and let us know how this works. i have the mobile app and use it all the time for several computers. I have a lapdock on the way and was wondering how well it worked or if i was going to have to use the browser version. Thanks for testing this.
Looks like Ignition via WebTop is a No-go
Well I gave LogMeIn Ignition a shot on webtop (via HDMI) and there are a couple of reasons I believe everyone will stick with the browser log-in version.
1. Mouse controls are very hinkey - even if you toggle the settings it's difficult to click anything (I was using my phone as the mouse, but I think results would be similar with a physical mouse or the laptopdock trackpad.
2. The resolution is cruddy, and the resolution controls in ignition didnt do anything for me.
Well there's our answer - for now. If anyone tries this on their laptopdock before I get mine please let us know how your experience is.
You could've picked up Team Viewer for free & the service is free on your PC also, it does everything that LMI does but free (for non commercial use)......PLUS it works for Linux
P05TMAN said:
You could've picked up Team Viewer for free & the service is free on your PC also, it does everything that LMI does but free (for non commercial use)......PLUS it works for Linux
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+1 Actually, TV does much more than LMI free. File Transfer for one, which I HAVE to have.
Has anyone used TeamViewer with just hdmi mirroring (Not LapDock)? Right now the smoothest and quickest way I've been getting Remote Control is just using Ignition directly on the phone...since it seems to be the least laggy and more precise when navigating. The next best is using the hotspot to my net-book and java web interface logmein. But that's a hassle because I have to undo my static IP settings on my net-book every time to get it work correctly with hotspot. Maybe TeamViewer via hdmi would be a quicker solution?
Would have to set up TeamViewer on quite a few computers just to try it...so who's tried them all?
Thanks
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is it possible to have any version of webtop or hdmi mirroring workign with cm7?
if so how, possible link to the thread? or which rom would i flash to use this easily?
id like to try out either mirroring or webtop but im not sure how to go about it, all the threads i see are huge giant elaborate ways to install linux on it or watever, i attempted searching but im really not sure what to look for.
thank you for your help/response
Webtop and mirroring are "baked" into motoblur, which cm7(or 9) explicitly removes to make the rom lightweight and fast. The devs are working on landscape mirroring, but it may or may not work out.
If you want these features right now, you'll need to flash a rom that keeps blur to at least some extent. Darkside and Wet Dream are two I know are working. There are others; haven't gotten around to flashing them yet. Keep looking around. Check out the feature lists and changelogs for potential roms.
i always see threats for hdmi hacks or webtop hacks. They appeared to be addons as opposed to entire roms. am i reading into these wrong?
Not quite sure what you mean, but a question first: Are you currently on CM7, or the stock rom, or something else?
"Webtop hack" probably refers to running the webtop on your TV over an HDMI cable. The procedure in that thread works on the stock rom -- easy enough process, I might add, you just push two modified files to your phone -- and both roms I mentioned earlier already have that functionality worked in.
"HDMI hack": do you mean HDMI mirroring? As I understand, portrait mirroring works in CM7 already. Landscape mirroring is really tricky to patch into an existing rom (lots of issues, just read the thread). It works fine if you flash one of the roms that worked it into the base code.
Im running Clemsyn's 7.2 rom and kernel currently. I meant hdmi mirroring i apologize, im just looking for landscape (long ways?) mirroring or webtop just to view videos and whatnot on the tv.
cm7 weekly #6 has hdmi mirroring both portrait and landscape but no webtop yet........still waiting for it to eventually come to CM
Well, as soon as the HDMI mirroring has all the bugs worked out of it and the key layout is fixed with the lapdock there is really no reason to have webtop... There is a developer that has made Ubuntu 10.10 nearly fully functional on many devices, atrix included. Open that up and plug it into the lapdock. Bam, Ubuntu computer that's not restricted by the 800mbs in the osh partition and without the use of webtop2sd.
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Hi guys,
I use Xtralogic Remote Desktop Client for remote desktop connection which works great directly in phone. But if I put Atrix into a lapdock and maximize phone display window, phone display is stretched to lapdock's 1366x768, but real image resolution stays at 960x540 and it doesn't look good.
Is there a way how to increase phone display resolution to lapdock's native 1366x768 and use applications in this resolution? Or is there some other application for remote desktop connection for lapdock which is able to use full 1366x768 resolution?
Thanks.
Edit:
I have Android 2.3.4, Webtop WT-1.2.0-133_22
Hi t-fuse,
If and only if you willing to root your Atrix then you will discover how helpful your gadget can perform if you use it together with the Lapdock.
I assume, the main reason why you need to have a RDP could probably because you need to access to your Windows base PC and perform some regular task which the "original" Atrix + Lapdock combination couldn't perform. If this is the case, you may make the decision if it is worth to "root" your Atrix? Search this forum for "Webtop2SD" and some others topic/comments which related to this hack.
Once again, I suggest you to spend as many time as possible to browse this forum (while experiencing your new gadgets) before you perform the hack and ask for help(s). Here you will find some nasty member and some very nice members too.
Hi OngPangTau, thanks for your reply.
I decided to root my Atrix several days ago (primary reason for rooting was LBE Privacy Guard application).
Then, I managed to successfuly install webtop2sd and other necessary stuff and now I'm running webtop from microSD card with XFCE4 GUI. To use remote desktop access I installed rdesktop which works good. The only limitation for rdesktop was that I had to switch my Windows 7 computer to less secure remote connection. However the most important thing for now is that remote desktop connection works
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
I was hoping that someone can help me with a couple of Ready For questions:
Wanting to try out Ready For PC that is present in the newer Motorola phones, does anyone know if it is possible get the APK and try it out? This phone does wired Ready For just fine when used with an external display.
I also wonder if anyone has any app recommendations or knows of any apps that allow the use of widgets on the Ready For desktop when connected to an external display? I really like being able to dock my phone and use the phone simulator on the display while opening up another app or two to use while working, but I think using the standard desktop widgets would be killer. I have tried a few apps meant for DeX without much luck, the only one that has been useful is SecondScreen to change the density of my 3200x1800 14" touch display that I am using with the phone.