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Hello Guys,
I am pretty much new to Android here (Used to be a Windows Mobile user), although I am starting to read and learn more about it. I felt so happy to be out of the Microsoft Mobile spell, it was horrible and the software just lives in the world of its own, it lags at almost anything and in short, it just cant work.
Alright, so I got my Hero 2 weeks back and I wanted to know a few things, which I hope you can help me with it.
- I have about 60 over applications on my SD card, and I wish to use the MoDaCo ROM, How am I able to backup the applications from the current stock rom and transfer them to SD Card or somewhere else?
( Will Market still recognise the apps I downloaded after I flashed my phone to MoDaCo? )
- One more question, everything when the MoDaCo rom releases a new version, lets say from 2.9 to 3.0, must I reflash and build everything from scratch again?
Thanks A Lot,
Jeremy
jeremy89632 said:
Hello Guys,
I am pretty much new to Android here (Used to be a Windows Mobile user), although I am starting to read and learn more about it. I felt so happy to be out of the Microsoft Mobile spell, it was horrible and the software just lives in the world of its own, it lags at almost anything and in short, it just cant work.
Alright, so I got my Hero 2 weeks back and I wanted to know a few things, which I hope you can help me with it.
- I have about 60 over applications on my SD card, and I wish to use the MoDaCo ROM, How am I able to backup the applications from the current stock rom and transfer them to SD Card or somewhere else?
( Will Market still recognise the apps I downloaded after I flashed my phone to MoDaCo? )
- One more question, everything when the MoDaCo rom releases a new version, lets say from 2.9 to 3.0, must I reflash and build everything from scratch again?
Thanks A Lot,
Jeremy
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hi,
well to answer your questions,
you can install all your applications directly on your sd card using app2sd.(it is incorporated in the modaco roms but bear in mind you have to correctly format ur sd card in ext3 partition for app2sd application to work . Once you've done that , you can flash anything and you'll not have any problem.
2)concerning paid applications, yes. market will automatically recognise applications you bought once you sign in your google account(they'll be recognised but you'll have to download it manually) but paid ones, nope.
3)when you upgrade from the same built( meaning from 2.8 to 3.0 modaco for example) , you dont have to wipe before flashing cause both roms use as base the official 2.73 rom. thus you wont lose any of your settings. However, when you upgrade from a modaco rom to community rom 1.6 , you should normally wipe.(builts are not the same here, one being cupcake and the other eclair)
deeren said:
hi,
well to answer your questions,
you can install all your applications directly on your sd card using app2sd.(it is incorporated in the modaco roms but bear in mind you have to correctly format ur sd card in ext3 partition for app2sd application to work . Once you've done that , you can flash anything and you'll not have any problem.
2)concerning paid applications, yes. market will automatically recognise applications you bought once you sign in your google account(they'll be recognised but you'll have to download it manually) but paid ones, nope.
3)when you upgrade from the same built( meaning from 2.8 to 3.0 modaco for example) , you dont have to wipe before flashing cause both roms use as base the official 2.73 rom. thus you wont lose any of your settings. However, when you upgrade from a modaco rom to community rom 1.6 , you should normally wipe.(builts are not the same here, one being cupcake and the other eclair)
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Thanks A lot for your response, and I have some questions again.
- Where could I find an app to format my SDCard to Ext3? Will my Windows PC still be able to read EXT3?
- You mentioned that market will recognise my downloaded applications after I root the phone right? So, I dont really get it - I have to download it manually? Meaning? ( All my apps are free, no paid )
- Its pleasing to hear that I don't have to wipe when I upgrade to 3.0.
- Oh and something which I missed out, I am supposed to flash a Radio at the same time right? Which one is the best to date? I heard that there was many versions. ( I'm using a GSM Hero)
Sorry for the inconvinience.
Cheers,
Jeremy
*ALL THE USUAL DISCLAIMERS AND WARNINGS*
*This is for the nook color version 1.2.0 only, don’t try on any other version or device*
What it does:
This kernel should fix the “installation error unknown reason-18” error that currently keeps apps from properly installing from the Android or Amazon markets, such as Angry Birds and Airport Mania.
This kernel will also allow you to install apps to your SD card and back to your NC from within app manager. The kernel is 100% stock, except for what it took to fix this problem, stock volts and clock.
Known Problems:
None of yet. I just finished building the kernel, but have been able to install around 75 apps, 20 of them had experienced the “unknown reason-18” error before I installed the kernel. I was able to move apps back and forth from the SD card without any problems.
Consider this to be in the beta stage.
How to Use:
1. Download the attached file *MD5 4c188079b543f7e5823379461b35e753 *
2. Place the file “Nook_Kernel_Fix-signed.zip” onto your SD card
3. Install the zip with ClockworkMod Recovery
4. Report any problems that you have related to this
If you use this kernel in your own work, please just give me credit for the work that I did.
reserved for future use
now if we could get this fix for the 1.1ghz overclock kernel i'd be a happy camper.
do_9999 said:
now if we could get this fix for the 1.1ghz overclock kernel i'd be a happy camper.
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If it passes the test for about two weeks, then I will release the code for all developers so that we can make that happen for you. I just did not want anything to come between testing the core function of the kernel fix.
Can someone post a list of problematic apps? I'd be happy to test it out but I haven't had any problems since Angry Birds.
doncaruana said:
Can someone post a list of problematic apps? I'd be happy to test it out but I haven't had any problems since Angry Birds.
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The ones I always had this issue with were the 3 different flavors of Angry Birds and also Aldiko. I assume it happens with any app that defaults to install on the SD card, which are probably mainly games or other large apps.
Which version of market does this work with? Any chance it gets the 2.xx versions to work with 1.2?
magicland said:
Which version of market does this work with? Any chance it gets the 2.xx versions to work with 1.2?
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This will work with any version of the market. This is more of a single system fix, not just market.
The official Google Froyo release was designed with A2SD (Apps2sd). Google did it this way to help protect apps from things like piracy. B&N decided they did not want to include this option into their release. I have added the needed information into the kernel to allow A2SD to work. This fix allows you to now move apps back and forth from the SD card using the app manager option in nook tools.
I had this problem with my wife's NC Sunday and I think these are the apps I had trouble with:
Tank Recon 3D (Lite)
Aldiko Book Reader
RuniK
Angry Birds
Angry Birds Seasons
Angry Birds Rio
Air Control Lite (I think)
Airport Mania Free (I think)
I applied the patch, uninstalled Tank Recon 3D Lite, and reinstalled. The reinstall was successful.
Any app that's over 15MBs will cause Unknown Error -18 I'm looking forward to see if this is stable, if so I'd love to see it in a future release of MN
Paradise Island is one such app.
Well my nook running BN1.2 and MN and DL's 1.2 OC kernel has no problem loading any of the above apps, to be exact any regardless size app.
If anyone needs the process let me know ..
Pavlos
I have aslo find out how to install flash 10.3 whithout breaking the nook.
It actually is a bit faster...
pavlos46 said:
I have aslo find out how to install flash 10.3 whithout breaking the nook.
It actually is a bit faster...
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How'd you get it to install without the Nook Boot looping?
Yep and its actually not that difficult.
I just used Titanium backup to unistall the 10.1 version and appstrore to install the 10.3 version as it didn't come up in normal market.
Pavlos
Actually the first time it boot looped but I let it cycle once the second time it went through and had no issues since then.
Of course I can also install angry birds and other apps directly from market or titanium without issue so I am not sure if that has any effect.
Pavlos
Actually did some more testing and it apears that angry birds are installed on the SD and actually was able to move apps to SD.
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Actually did some more testing and it apears that angry birds are installed on the SD and actually was able to move apps to SD.
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Yea this Kernel according to the original post fixes Apps2SD which in effect fixes the Unknown Reason -18 issue.
GabrialDestruir said:
Any app that's over 15MBs will cause Unknown Error -18 I'm looking forward to see if this is stable, if so I'd love to see it in a future release of MN
Paradise Island is one such app.
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I am having a "mental fog" day today, so could someone tell me if this is for rooted or unrooted NCs? I am assuming rooted?
Yep that's for the rooted BN1.2 froyo.
Pavlos
Well on my nook, I could not install any of the angry birds. I tried installing without the sd card and it would still fail. So far this kernel has fixed all of my install issues.
For starters. I am a Nook noob and I am not affraid to admit it.
I have read, read, read, and then read some more about rooting, roms, CWM, CM, and so on and I did puzzle most of the pieces together, but not all.
If I got it right there basically are 3 different roms one can choose for the NT:
Stock rom (the original state)
Stock rom Rooted
Alternate roms: CM (7,8,9), MIUI or any other variation of Android firmware distribution
The usage distribution of the roms can be found in a poll here.
Stock (original) limits you in using full potential of the NT, which typically means that you can not use Google Drive, install/use any apps other then the ones Nook market provides. You can not put apps on the home screen, use any widgets and you are very limited in what you can alterate on the system.
Stock Rooted is the state in which that you are still using the original firmware, however you now have root acces. This means that you have acces to Google Drive and are able to install/use most of the apps on Google Drive on your NT. You can use various launchers to access these apps and can set a launcher as default instead of the original launcher.
The easiest way to get here is by rooting your NT through an SD card. You only need the SD card for the rooting process. The (rooted) firmware remains on the internal memory of the NT.
In this, you:
Still have acces to all the original Nook apps and features (you are still using the original Nook system)
You have the possibility to UNroot the device and turn it fully back to it's original state
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
When going for an alternate rom, you have a diversity of choices, but all are fully seperate roms, that either replaces the original firmware or complements it (dual boot). What you get in return is a fully functional, tweakable Android system, on which the version depends on the rom that you choose. You can access Google Drive, install/use most apps, place widgets, use different launchers, etc.
The easiest way to get here is by using a SD card. I can not find the specific topic that explains the procedure though. It seems that you can choose to maintain the original firmware and place the rom on the (external) SD, which leaves you with a dual boot system, or you can replace the stock rom with the custom rom.
In this, you:
Loose usage of all of the NT's orininal apps and features (when using the custom rom)
What I am not sure about is:
Where in the process you can choose to either place the custom rom on the (external) SD or install in the internal memory.
Are there any other important differences between Stock Rooted and custom rom?
My main question is: Can you confirm my findings and help me answer the questions/uncertainties?
I can imagine this thread would be of help to others who spent a lot of time reading, but are left with some basic questions. That is why I took my time writing it.
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
Thread moved. While I appreciate the effort you've put into this post by reading up and finding out about all the different ROM's, you need to also look to make sure you post in the correct sections of the forum and this is also stated in the sticky in the General section, not to post questions in General. If your thread is a question/multiple questions and you even tick the "Is this a question box" when creating the thread then you must post it in the relevant Q&A section.
Thanks
AvRS
hd2joel said:
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
@AvRS: I did read the section about no questions in the General Forum's policy. I actually thought I posted in the Q&A but appearantly I didn't. I probably started the thread just before I read that part. Thanks for moving it to the proper section.
chris996 said:
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
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For the first point: Not on firmware 1.4.3, but on lower firmwares you can download an app called Nook Color App Manager (you have to side-load it as it is not in the Play store) that will allow you to do just that.
For the second point: You cannot place widgets on the Stock launcher. You have to install an alternate launcher for widgets.
Also, I think you mean Google Play, not Google Drive.
chris996 said:
Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
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Unless you re-partition your Nook, you never have access to the full 8/16GB. You only have access to the 1GB MyNook partition. You have to re-partition (or have a B&N store do it for you) to get more space for user apps.
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
chris996 said:
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
Number 3 update
Just one update on part of the question, answer to 3); Magicjack app works on it.
ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
"Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?" Nope, rooted not rooted on any version will not support direct Skype or Video conferencing app that I know of on NT. This may change once OTG is implemented in future development.
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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for your first question, there is an SD version but it has not been confirmed to work with NT 8GB
You can however make your own internal sd card version using the internal version provided here and instructions that are listed over a succulent's blog: www.iamafanof.wordpress.com
if you aren't all too tech savvy, I would advise against making your own bootable SD, but if want to experiment and learn a thing or two, go for it!
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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There are instructions on how to install/create your own SD Card version of any ROM, you just have to try it out.
Skype isn't supported at all. It will install (according to the Play Store online) on my JB (AOKP) NT16, but I don't think it will run. For one thing, there's no camera or camera support.
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
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Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
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Why not use Magicjack for voip, it free unless you want to get the dongle for less than $30. With video conferencing app like skype, you can only text but what the point of that.
My phone is running android version 2.3.6 baseband I717UCLA1 kernel 2.6.35.11 it says hand crafted by Saurom projekt team and buildnumber RC_IV. Now with that all said I know it is OLD and way out o date witch is why I am here. I have been googleing and reading for about 6 hours after spending about 3 hours trying to flash a new ROM. it always just aborts instal from CWM. Now I know I need to update CWM bc I am on version 2.5.1.2 but it will not update. I am running on mac so cant use Odin and mobile odin is not an option for me. ROM manager will not do anything with CWM nor will goo manager do anything. Any advice? I am so frustrated with it right now.
Use cwm to flash latest twrp. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647575
D1PL0M4T said:
My phone is running android version 2.3.6 baseband I717UCLA1 kernel 2.6.35.11 it says hand crafted by Saurom projekt team and buildnumber RC_IV. Now with that all said I know it is OLD and way out o date witch is why I am here. I have been googleing and reading for about 6 hours after spending about 3 hours trying to flash a new ROM. it always just aborts instal from CWM. Now I know I need to update CWM bc I am on version 2.5.1.2 but it will not update. I am running on mac so cant use Odin and mobile odin is not an option for me. ROM manager will not do anything with CWM nor will goo manager do anything. Any advice? I am so frustrated with it right now.
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refresh my memory on a mac, can you create a windows XP or 7 vm and do a hardware passthrough? if so I'd move that route. But like the previous poster said update it to twrp. the easiest way to do so is download the goo manager from the market click on the menu button and click install open recovery kit. But I'd check compatibility with the older cwm version. I don't think you'd have a problem, but it's always best to check.
Also how are you attempting to update CWM? It should be as easy as downloading the new version, putting it on your SD card, flashing, reboot to verify the change.
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refresh my memory on a mac, can you create a windows XP or 7 vm and do a hardware passthrough? if so I'd move that route. But like the previous poster said update it to twrp. the easiest way to do so is download the goo manager from the market click on the menu button and click install open recovery kit. But I'd check compatibility with the older cwm version. I don't think you'd have a problem, but it's always best to check.
Also how are you attempting to update CWM? It should be as easy as downloading the new version, putting it on your SD card, flashing, reboot to verify the change.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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I was updating or at least trying to by putting CWM update .zip on root of SD but it just says can not be found no matter what i do.
s89281b said:
Use cwm to flash latest twrp. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647575
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I tried that too. I just keep getting install aborted.
Theoriginalgiga said:
refresh my memory on a mac, can you create a windows XP or 7 vm and do a hardware passthrough? if so I'd move that route. But like the previous poster said update it to twrp. the easiest way to do so is download the goo manager from the market click on the menu button and click install open recovery kit. But I'd check compatibility with the older cwm version. I don't think you'd have a problem, but it's always best to check.
Also how are you attempting to update CWM? It should be as easy as downloading the new version, putting it on your SD card, flashing, reboot to verify the change.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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I can if i absolutely must do a partition for windows but I would rather not. I think if it came down to that then I would just do odin mobile. Money is a big concern for me since I am a single father so I know its bad but I would more then likely just stay on the old software if need be. Its not worth spending the money on cell phone software and computer software since the phone is working its just slow and wont update. Could it be that the ROM on the phone is just too old? I forget who made the ROM so I cant even look back to try and update that.
Old CWR only looks at external SD card.
s89281b said:
Use cwm to flash latest twrp. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1647575
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I did manage to get this this to work thank you very much. Im backing up now hope it takes CM10 now
Thank you all so much for your help it successfully flashed CM10 now i just need to work on finding the best ROM. Hoping to get something using tablet mode and has note 2 apps and multi view
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Old CWR only looks at external SD card.
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The ranger knows best.
Also ranger, you're in my SwiftKey suggestions every time I type ranger thought you'd get a kick out of that
@ D1PL0M4T: you can download vmware view (or the mac equivalent) for free, after that it's just a matter of getting a copy of windows in a vdmk file. It's more time consuming then anything else.
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Hehehehe!
Theoriginalgiga said:
The ranger knows best.
Also ranger, you're in my SwiftKey suggestions every time I type ranger thought you'd get a kick out of that
@ D1PL0M4T: you can download vmware view (or the mac equivalent) for free, after that it's just a matter of getting a copy of windows in a vdmk file. It's more time consuming then anything else.
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Back a few years ago when Mac first introduced their Intel models you use to be able to download a free legit copy of windows right from microsoft. From what I can tell they stopped that and it was only a trial. However, you could get the trial as often as you like so you could keep downloading it. But it was not a very good copy and was buggy running on Mac. but needless to say the problem with freeware on Mac is very hit of miss. Like most things you get what you pay for.
D1PL0M4T said:
Back a few years ago when Mac first introduced their Intel models you use to be able to download a free legit copy of windows right from microsoft. From what I can tell they stopped that and it was only a trial. However, you could get the trial as often as you like so you could keep downloading it. But it was not a very good copy and was buggy running on Mac. but needless to say the problem with freeware on Mac is very hit of miss. Like most things you get what you pay for.
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I agree freeware on Mac is hit or miss, it just doesn't have a big enough market share. But on the other hand for being one hardware manufacturer, it's pretty darn big. Anyway, I know vmware view does hardware pass through on pc, it would be hard to believe that it wouldn't in the mac realm and vmware view is free. Now vsphere isn't but we aren't talking about a virtualization cluster . As for a copy of xp, I remember reading a while back that someone converted the win 7 xp mode into a vmware file and from my recollection it wasn't a violation of terms of use.
Not saying it's needed but if it was something you wanted to explore. It's always fun to broaden one's horizons.
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I agree freeware on Mac is hit or miss, it just doesn't have a big enough market share. But on the other hand for being one hardware manufacturer, it's pretty darn big. Anyway, I know vmware view does hardware pass through on pc, it would be hard to believe that it wouldn't in the mac realm and vmware view is free. Now vsphere isn't but we aren't talking about a virtualization cluster . As for a copy of xp, I remember reading a while back that someone converted the win 7 xp mode into a vmware file and from my recollection it wasn't a violation of terms of use.
Not saying it's needed but if it was something you wanted to explore. It's always fun to broaden one's horizons.
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I have a old windows desktop (vaio PCV-RX670) witch at the time was a very good PC. But it can not be used right now until I get a new hard drive for it. Just not in a real hurry since I have a 2011 MPB and the new iMac 27". But since i am gettng back into android rooting I should prolly invest the $20 for a new HD.
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I have a old windows desktop (vaio PCV-RX670) witch at the time was a very good PC. But it can not be used right now until I get a new hard drive for it. Just not in a real hurry since I have a 2011 MPB and the new iMac 27". But since i am gettng back into android rooting I should prolly invest the $20 for a new HD.
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If you plan on doing any compiling on it you'll end up wanting to shoot yourself. assuming you bumped the RAM up, it still only has 1.8GHz P4 single core. now on a VM you can take advantage of your multiple cores and increased RAM and all around faster machine.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you so I'll drop it. But if you'd like a hand setting up a VM on a mac PM me and I'll send you quite a few links that will put you on your way.
Lastly sorry for being so passionate about this, my last job was highly against virtualization for fear it was the devil's work so now whenever there's push back from moving to vitalization (for whatever reason justified or not) I get like a PTSD and flashbacks and run around the office in a viking helmet. People with medicine are called, there's someone crying, someone shouting put down the stapler... I'm sure you get the picture. :silly:
Ahh the life as a datacenter admin...
I'm having this same issue, I'm on a Mac and bought a Note, went to update the firmware and I got to 8% until it froze and then Kies told me to use emergency recovery which stays at 0%. Now my phone is showing "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again", which I've done a few times and it just stays at 0%.
Edit: Nevermind, someone helped me, I used Odin and upgraded that way.
The original post for the easy instructions to root the NT are a mess. The original instructions for doing it on Windows aren't even complete. I started building the files by following the Linux version of the instructions since they actually made sense and had the files you were to get.
If I'm not mistaken though I ended up using this to root the nook although it wasn't really what I was looking for considering I had CM7 and I would get a boot choice to go nook or android. That all stopped when the sd card I was using freaked itself and failed leaving me stuck at the N screen unless I pulled the SD card. My intentions were to leave the NT stock and not mess with it and run Cyanogen on the sd card. What it appears I'm left with though (without installing a rom) is a co-mingling Nook OS and Android OS since I'm now able to choose a launcher and I have Android screens with those launchers in the Nook itself. Which this is kinda cool because I don't have to reboot the system to switch to the reader anymore.
I installed Launcher 8 to give it some WIN8 love and easy access for my fiancee whom uses a mouth stick to get around in android easier. My problem I'm having is the android system doesn't seem complete. I'm assuming there are gaps missing or something because things are slow and some things aren't working when the icon is selected. Which simulates the program isn't actually there or the files to make it work.
Obviously there wouldn't be a phone but there are other things that used to work with the dual booting CM7 installed on the old SD card that aren't working now.
Since I'm not exactly sure if the above is how I ended up rooting the device I don't even know where to go from here to adding anything to it.
I'm not a developer and loaded this thing up about this time last year. The scenery has changed over the year and I'm kinda lost with all this again. Spent most of the day yesterday trying to figure out where I was and really got no where. So hopefully someone get's what I'm talking about and can give me the push in the right direction.
Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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*The non working sd card*
It was running as a dual boot before with cyogen or something like that and it would be selectable to go to Nook or the CM7 Android. That card somehow just died and can't even be seen in Windows anymore (have an rma filed with Patriot).
I rooted the nook and now I have what appears to be a partial android OS running inside the BN Nook OS but things aren't functioning. (I prefer it like this vs the dual boot way) So it's like I need a gapps file or something. All settings links lead to the Nook OS settings page and nothing get's me to the Android settings which is why I state it appears to be a partial Android OS. I don't even know what OS version it is because nothing fully functions with the Android side of things. (Take the Launcher8 Loader I installed. No icons actually open what they should. Selecting an icon leads to that icons settings and not what it should be opening. I have the same loader on my Skyrocket so I know how it SHOULD function and selecting an icon to get options for it is not correct. You have to press and hold to get the button to set the icon options.)
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apparently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
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You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apprently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1488035
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
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404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
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404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Brian's method looks a hell of a lot familiar like that may have been what I did instead but the listing of apps with his doesn't match what I have on the nook now: (only thing I didn't put in the list was what I installed off google play which is launcher8)
android reader
car home
chess
contacts
crossword
downloads
email
es file explorer
flash player settings
getjar
google search
home
home manager
home catcher
hulu plus
music player
my media
netflix
news and weather
nook friends
nook video
nookhwtest
nookviewer
nt hidden settings
pandora
play store
sound recorder
spare parts
splashtop remote
sudoku
superuser
talk
testcenterservice
twitter
That is all the installed apps that pull up under the Nook OS with using Launcher8 and swipping the homescreen to the left it pulls up a list of installed apps just like windows phone.
It must be brians anyway because I just opened the nook hidden settings and under the about Nook Tablet Hidden Settings it shows:
Contact information: [email protected]
Version 0.5.0
I'm just going to move this over here:
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This is the development section. Not meant for Q&A. I've already told you how you can return the Tablet to out of the box condition over in that section.
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It is the development section I am aware of that and can read. I'm in the 10.2 thread which is actually what I want running on the NT. So what better place to get the help for it then in the thread for it like everyone else has.
Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box. Must have been someone else your thinking of. I don't want it to be out of the box though. The nook OS was already setup with apps and books etc. I just want to reverse the rooting I guess to remove the stock android from it so I can then use the links you provided to create a correct root and dual boot using wait for it.....
CM 10.2
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Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box.
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Ok I stand corrected on that matter, but stock out of the box isn't what I want.
I'm not sure you can undo what you've done without loosing content. But as long as you backup your sideloaded stuff, your BN books and apps can be dowloaded at any time.
I suppose you can stay rooted and just disable your alternative launcher and what have you, but you said something about your system being slowed up, and I susoect fixing that without a wipe of some sort would be difficult. Could be wrong though snce I haven't dealt with that myself. Let's hope someone that knows better might come along with advice more to your liking.
While waiting for that you can always make one of the CM 10.x sd card images and run it.It will work completely independent from your trublesome stock OS.
System isn't slow at all also anything side loaded came from B&N so could also be redownloaded like the books. I was just hoping to keep all that intact as it was. There just aren't certain things working that should is all. I'm sure if I was a dev and understood all this stuff more clear I could fix it. I would rather take the easy cheesy way out and just redo it. lol Too much stuff around the house falling behind while messing with this thing.
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Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Yea haven't heard back from anyone on the returning to stock without the complete reset so It looks like I will be moving books over in the near future.
So I'm getting back onto this thing and finishing it up either tonight or tomorrow.
Resetting the Nook to stock can all be done via the nook settings correct? IE no sd card needed.