I haven't opened my Nook Tablet yet, but was wondering about the over the air updates.
Does the tablet automatically update, without your knowledge, to the newest OS... or is it more like the iPhones over the air updates that tell you there is one available and you then can download and install it?
moviecouple said:
I haven't opened my Nook Tablet yet, but was wondering about the over the air updates.
Does the tablet automatically update, without your knowledge, to the newest OS... or is it more like the iPhones over the air updates that tell you there is one available and you then can download and install it?
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It does so automatically and without your consent as long as your device is "on" (e.g. asleep) with WiFi on. Turn off WiFi and you are apparently safe. My interpretation of other posts is that it won't happen while you are actively using the device but I've seen no hard proof of this.
Then I have a follow-up question. If it does this automatically... then how can I prepare my device for rooting and sideload apps. You need to be connected to the internet to do this at certain points. Won't it auto update before I have a chance to do all this?
Although mine is still sitting under the Xmas tree, you would have to connect to a router first before you could recieve a FOTA, so you should have the opportunity to turn off Wifi.
moviecouple said:
Then I have a follow-up question. If it does this automatically... then how can I prepare my device for rooting and sideload apps. You need to be connected to the internet to do this at certain points. Won't it auto update before I have a chance to do all this?
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takes 3-5 minutes to download OTA update. Only turn on wifi long enough for downloads needed for root or just sideload them and you should be just fine. Follow video's on my channel if you need a walk through. I am uploading one now on how to block ota using indirects titanium backup apk patch
Since I already have Fotakill.apk on a SD card (transferred from my Galaxy Tab), couldn't I just sideload that into my Nook Tablet first before I do anything else to block the OTA? Will that work and then start the rooting/sideload steps?
moviecouple said:
Since I already have Fotakill.apk on a SD card (transferred from my Galaxy Tab), couldn't I just sideload that into my Nook Tablet first before I do anything else to block the OTA? Will that work and then start the rooting/sideload steps?
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Someone posted that the Fotakill apk didn't keep them from getting the update. Need to either freeze devicemanager or edit the settings file for it. There's an easy tutorial in the development section that does the settings file change for you using Titanium Backup.
So then what's the overall best way right now to Root/Sideload and kill the OTA's? I can use either windows or Mac and I also have a Galaxy Tab to grab apk's.
Too many threads on what works or doesn't work.
Can anyone confirm that the update will not hit will actively using devise. I can side load the five apk's that I want in short order. Then if I understand how the update works, I will still have access to the pre-update apps. after 1.41 is downloaded. I'm just not comfortable rooting right out the box at the moment. Long time member but first time poster, thanks to everyone for all info. on this site.
So if I just wanted to sideload apps without rooting... all I would need to do is
Enable "Unknown Sources"
Enable "USB Debugging" and other USB debugging further down
Untick Automount
moviecouple said:
So then what's the overall best way right now to Root/Sideload and kill the OTA's? I can use either windows or Mac and I also have a Galaxy Tab to grab apk's.
Too many threads on what works or doesn't work.
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Windows Root
Mac Root
Block OTA
I don't think anyone truly knows. I got hit by 1.4.1
Sucks...
curtym said:
I don't think anyone truly knows. I got hit by 1.4.1
Sucks...
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Ditto. I wish we had a moderated sticky post at the top of the forum, with no commentary and no questions that provides the current known state of affairs with respect to preventing the over the air update. I know many of the devs here are tech wizs and while it may be obvious to them and think it is reasonable to squirrel through multiple forums and threads to figure it out, it would be so much easier for everyone concerned to have a one-stop location that a select few folks could keep updated.
Thanks and keep up the good work
If you were smart, you would've backup your apps and data with Titanium backup or similar app. If you got 1.4.1, do factory restore, reroot, and block the ota update.
OTA update are automatically. It happen when your NT is asleep and charged. Same with NC. You can do manually update too by copying the update zip to the media folder, I think from NC experience.
I have been nagged enough times, I am shooting a video today on restoring back to 1.4.0 and rerooting then blocking OTA
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So a couple of days ago I updated to UEKME via PhantomHacker's StarBurst ROM, and right afterwards I noticed I continued to receive OTA update notifications from my Samsung account. So of course my first step was to change the settings in that account so that the device no longer looked for updates, however it appears that the update had already been downloaded or received. So then I started thinking, maybe if I could just find that downloaded update file, I could delete it and fix the issue that way. But after exhaustive searches, I have no idea where such a file could be. And of course all the while, I continue to get those damn annoying update popup notifications, with no way of stopping them.
Has anyone else either 1) encountered the same problem, or 2) know where the downloaded update file could be or what it might be named? Someone in another thread said it would be in the root of the SD card, but that I can confirm is not the case. And I performed a full system search of the term "update" and found no file, so that's why I'm wondering what exactly that file's name might actually be.
I'm looking for an answer to this as well. Thanks.
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I'm looking for an answer to this as well. Thanks.
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Cool, at least I'm not the only one having this problem!
Just an idea... since you use Starburst you don't need OTA anymore.
What happens if you remove the Samsung account, do you still get update notifications?
I have the exact same issue. The update downloaded before I flashed the custom ROM, so it keeps letting me know that an update has been downloaded and if it should be applied. Even if I hit do not remind me, it still pops up.
I think finding the update data and deleting it would solve this problem. Problem is, nobody seems to know where the update data is downloaded to. I've asked in a couple of different threads, but no dice so far.
Let's hope someone comes through with an answer
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Just an idea... since you use Starburst you don't need OTA anymore.
What happens if you remove the Samsung account, do you still get update notifications?
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Ok well I'm giving this a shot, only I've found that one can't just delete the Samsung account in the more obvious fashion, that is by going to Settings-->Accounts and sync and simply deleting the account there (in fact it is not possible to do it this way, it simply won't let you as apparently "other programs" are using the account). Instead, using Titanium Backup I located the app called "Samsung account" and uninstalled that app. I have now done that, and (so far) I haven't gotten another update notification. But I'll give it more time and will report back with my findings over the coming hours/days.
Not sure 100%, but if you stop the Software Update service you should be able to remove the account. Or the radical way, you can remove all accounts with Settings > Privacy > Factory data reset.
Ah crap, well after removing the account (i.e., uninstalling "Samsung account" app), about 2 hours later I awakened my tab only to find that damned update notification pop up, so obviously that didn't work at all. I guess we are now just stuck with waiting to see if someone can actually find the correct file that one must delete in order to stop this incredibly annoying and frustrating phenomenon from occurring. Damn.
One more little thing I'm now trying - while looking through things again in Titanium, I found another apk that I believe was called "Software updater" or something similar to that, so I've tried uninstalling that using Titanium. I have since rebooted and have the tab running, so as with earlier I'll keep checking in on it to see if the update notification comes back, or if by some miracle this fixes it. Fingers crossed, because after this I'm going to begin getting ready for a full wipe and build things back up from scratch.
UPDATE: things might be headed in the right direction after all. Before uninstalling this particular apk (the Software Updater), I used to be able to reproduce the typical "software update successfully received - do you want to install?" popup by going to Settings-->About tablet-->Software update-->Update, and when I'd click "Update" I'd get the notification...but now when I try it, it does absolutely nothing. So I have a feeling this might have done it. So again basically I have killed both the Samsung Account apk and the Software updater apk (uninstalled them, that is, using TB). If I don't get another popup by tomorrow morning, we can consider this a success....
Ya, I thought so. I still want to know where the updates are stored. There must be a file written somewhere and when that file is present the update is trigerred.
yqed said:
Ya, I thought so. I still want to know where the updates are stored. There must be a file written somewhere and when that file is present the update is trigerred.
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Agreed, you're right that has got to be the case, but where is the million dollar question. But so far so good at my end with the removal of the Software Updater app
FIXED
I think I can now confirm that the problem is fixed. The key is apparently uninstalling the "Software Updater" app using Titanium Backup. I also removed the "Samsung Account" app in the same way, but the Updater program seemed to be the real key (but I would still remove the Account app since obviously you don't need it). Good luck!
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I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
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I may be missing something here, but I was just wondering:
With the ability to sideload apps, what's the point in rooting? What can you do with a root that you can't do via sideloading?
I could understand if the root was permanent and couldn't be removed via a software update, but as I understand it, this is not the case.
So why root? What are the benefits? I'm willing to give it a shot, but before I do, I really need to understand what the upside is. Possibly I'm just not educated enough on the subject, so if anyone has any thoughts- I'd love to hear them.
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Ability to side load apps doesn't mean we can get all apps to work. For example: android market, 3rd party keyboards, etc... Will not work on this device without root permissions to change what the permissions of the app is itself. I believe the developer who was able to override the n button to take you to a 3rd party home launcher also requires root. You can remove unwanted apps (chess, whatever other lame games were built in) that you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
MOST importantly (at least for me) you can run titanium backup and backup apps+data to avoid losing info and having to re-download everything all over again in the event of a reset.
Okay, good points, thanks for the info.
I'm a little scared to give this a shot but maybe I'll bite the bullet and try it.
The n button app doesn't require root, least not the original. Haven't check it since then as it worked perfectly for me in the first iteration.
Until we can load CM on it, mine will be staying unrooted. Got everything else I needed with sideloading.
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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You can sideload everything, but will you be able to receive updates?
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Quite a few of us hope that we can not receive updates. BNs handful of crappy apps really can't benefit from updates and the truncated version of Android they've used doesn't have enough substance to be worth updating. Those of us who have sideloaded this into a modern, useful device often prefer to be left to our own devices (pun intended).
I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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Ah, you may be correct. If that was the question then what I'm finding is that I'm getting market updates just fine. Some of the apps I have sideloaded from non-market sources are updating too, some might not be but how would I know? The few apps I have needed to copy to the root will not be able to update as far as I know.
My first response incorrectly assumed you meant OTA (over the air) updates of the whole shebang from BN.
You can always update the same way you got the initial program, sideloading. I haven't had any trouble updating my Amazon Market apps though.
I don't have googles market currently.
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I think he may have meant can you get updates to the apps you sideload. And I'm pretty sure the answer to that is no. But I could be wrong about that.
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If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
skeeterpro said:
If the sideloaded app installs appropriately then updates should not be a problem. It your choice to accept the update or not.
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How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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...btw, yes I was referring to app updates, and not OTA.
How do you get updates to sideloaded apps? Do you just download the updated apks and install? I'd imagine that would not be able to save any app data. You could use titanium...but no root!
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On unrooted devices I have sideloaded apps with when an update to that program is posted by the developer, a notification is automatically sent out. Granted, that is with Market apps but I have not seen a difference between Google Market apps, AppBrain, Amazon or Android Market. Don't recall ever loading anything from BN Market as I never wanted anything from there. They have a habit of charging for apps that can be had for free on other Markets.
You could always manually login and check each app for an update, too.
So, I finally rooted my phone yesterday.
Then, today, I start getting full-screen messages from AT&T saying that there's a software update and they want me to connect to WiFi to download right now. There's only a "next" button and no "cancel" button.
Is anyone else getting this nag screen? I've heard mixed reviews about this update (I presume 2.3.6) and I also read that I'll lose root if I update.
So, how do I kill the nag screen for good? And, if I go forward with the update, will my frozen and layed-over apps (apps I've loaded on top of frozen apps) stay as-is? Or will all the frozen stuff revert back to stock versions?
I did the root method on 2.3.4 that doesn't affect the counter or give any visual notifications, and I understand that rooting in 2.3.6 isn't as easy to do, so I'd rather stick with what I have no rather than go through the upgrade process. But the nag-screen keeps bugging me all day long!
Any info appreciated.
Thx.
I'm in a similar situation - I actually DID the 2.3.6 update, had terrible battery life, spoke to a CSR who said that rooting (in order to flash the previous 2.3.4 official firmware) would NOT void the warranty of my phone (i777). I followed the guide in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
Perfection -got my phone back to reasonable battery life, etc. etc. Here's the snag: went into a Barnes and Noble today where my phone automatically connected to the AT&T wifi hotspot and now my phone wants to force me into this update again! Blast it all!
To address your concern about going forward with the update - I would highly recommend not doing so. My battery life dropped like a stone on the update - I'm not talking about a slightly perceived decrease, I'm talking about 2.5 hours dropping me 40%.
To remove the update request, delete or freeze device manager. Do this if you wish to remain on UCKH7.
If you accept the OTA update to UCKK6 while rooted you will retain root.
Right or wrong, I froze Device Management through TiBu.
Edit: Not fast enough!
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Ok, I downloaded the update, but postponed installation for 8 hours. I will keep delaying until I find out exactly what this is.
excxda said:
Ok, I downloaded the update, but postponed installation for 8 hours. I will keep delaying until I find out exactly what this is.
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It's the 2.3.6 update that has been talked about here for a while now. Don't update it.
I have also seen the new prompt today. This is actually different from the first one that I was seeing about 3 weeks ago that said there was a new update and the only button was 'OK', this new one has a OK or Postpone. I selected Postpone and then was asked for how long 1,2,4,8 hours.
I have done the same as others and frozen Device Manager, however I am wondering what else this feature does. I would like to know if this will effect any other parts of my phone or just stop the OTA updates.
I had done the stock root a few weeks ago and had never seen anything about updates. Then I was reading about modems and thought I'd give the UCKH7 because I might have better call quality over the UCKH6.
Two days later, I'm at work and notice that my phone is getting warm in my pocket. I took it out only to find it was downloading something... after a little investigating I figured out it was an update and later was given the option to postpone. Knowing I better check it out on XDA before doing anything I postponed and then ended up freezing it with TiBu.
I guess this is an update specific to the UCKH7 modem.....
No, not just modem update. It's the whole update called UCKK6. Do a search and there are multiple problems with this new ROM.
DON'T do it unless you LIKE worse battery life, non-working BT HID devices and other quirks (some ppl have problem with phone calls using the new modem).
AT&T is obviously push the update to everyone now instead of the batch updates.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> [All Tab] -> Device management -> Clear Data
That'll make it stop nagging you about the update until it goes out and checks again.
I have a rooted S2, and I 'checked for updates'
It said I can update my phone and the phone downloaded about 20 MB file by itself and asked for a restart to update the phone. I said yes, restarted the phone, but for some reason, it says, Update Failed.
You guys know the reason behind it?
Thank you
If you rooted and removed some bloatware, your update will likely fail. Why do you want to updat anyway after all the warnings?
You should have known that the minute you rooted your phone, you kiss good bye to official OTA updates. Sometime, it may work but most times it won't work.
My update failed? Where can I delete the file?
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Edgarhighman said:
My update failed? Where can I delete the file?
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You must be rooted.
The easiest way is to use Titanium Backup. If you don't have it, there is a free version as well as paid one. With the free version you can only delete, but with the paid version you can either delete or freeze any application. Install TiBu and then find device manager in the list.
If you want to do it manually, the file can be found in the system folder I believe. I don't remember exactly what it is called, however, and I don't have it on my phone to check.
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If you want to do it manually, the file can be found in the system folder I believe. I don't remember exactly what it is called, however, and I don't have it on my phone to check.
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This info would be very helpful.
Miami_Son said:
This info would be very helpful.
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I froze this one: "Device management 2.0". No more nags about the update after that.
knimrod said:
I froze this one: "Device management 2.0". No more nags about the update after that.
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I meant the filename of the dowloaded update.
Miami_Son said:
I meant the filename of the dowloaded update.
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Oops... My bad. Sorry about that.
Miami_Son said:
I meant the filename of the dowloaded update.
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No need to know the filename of the downloaded update. Simply clear the data on 'Device management' app will do.
aw_ said:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> [All Tab] -> Device management -> Clear Data
That'll make it stop nagging you about the update until it goes out and checks again.
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Thank you. I've been looking for a way to stop the forced update reminders for a while.
It's insane that you can't stop this reminders easily and they are 'forcing' you to upgrade, specially when 2.3.6 seems to have so many issues as reported here and other forums.
Hi everyone,
Just bought a nook touch today and while I really like the device I am a bit disappointed that I am unable to use some of the apps I have on my phone. I have previously rooted my Galaxy S 4G using a one click software from these forums so that is the extent of my rooting experience.
I looked and it does have 1.4.1 which as I understand is the cause of my problem not being able to use some of the apps I want to use. I also noticed that there are a few different methods of rooting this device which I find a bit confusing.
Does anyone know which is considered to be the easiest and possibly most reliable for people with limited rooting experience?
Hello , this is nook tablet forum not Nook touch, if you have the right device then there are many threads discussing this, there 3 methods the normal using a computer installing drivers and root, using an sdcard format it and root from it or after you install CWM restore/flash one of the ROM' s that already come with root, appspot and tweaks. Use the one you think is easier for you.
If you use the normal method as you're in 1.4.1 you need to first use the acclaim_update.zip "magic card" by adam outlet to go back to stock 1.4.0 . Lastly once you're rooted install CWM and wait for another release of CM7 or CM9.
PS:read the FAQ there is good information and a video section to make it easier for you to root
~ Veronica
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Wow, sorry I dont know why I typed nook touch. I meant to say I have a nook tablet. Lol... I guess I should get more sleep hehe.
Is there a way to just get one or two apps loaded? Really thats all I am doing this for so I can load a Manga reader app I use on my android phone.
Elazul2k said:
Wow, sorry I dont know why I typed nook touch. I meant to say I have a nook tablet. Lol... I guess I should get more sleep hehe.
Is there a way to just get one or two apps loaded? Really thats all I am doing this for so I can load a Manga reader app I use on my android phone.
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Unfortunately you can't because your NT came with 1.4.1 and B&N took down the ability of sideload apps, in 1.4.0 that is not aproblem.
~ Veronica
Elazul2k said:
Wow, sorry I dont know why I typed nook touch. I meant to say I have a nook tablet. Lol... I guess I should get more sleep hehe.
Is there a way to just get one or two apps loaded? Really thats all I am doing this for so I can load a Manga reader app I use on my android phone.
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You do NOT need to "root" in order to do what you want but you WILL need the ability to side-load app's which is only available in version 1.4.0.
Your option would be to "revert" (As Veronica Said) to 1.4.0 and install the app's you want. If you don't block OTA's however, your tablet will eventually be upgraded without your input back to 1.4.1 and the side-loading capability would disappear.
See This Valuable Post by AdamOutler for additional information.
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You do NOT need to "root" in order to do what you want but you WILL need the ability to side-load app's which is only available in version 1.4.0.
Your option would be to "revert" (As Veronica Said) to 1.4.0 and install the app's you want. If you don't block OTA's however, your tablet will eventually be upgraded without your input back to 1.4.1 and the side-loading capability would disappear.
See This Valuable Post by AdamOutler for additional information.
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Thanks for the link. That is exactly what I am looking for. Quick question though. After downgrading to 1.4.0 and then loading the apps I want if I do not block nt from going back to 1.4.1 would I lose the abilty to use the apps I had loaded?
Elazul2k said:
Thanks for the link. That is exactly what I am looking for. Quick question though. After downgrading to 1.4.0 and then loading the apps I want if I do not block nt from going back to 1.4.1 would I lose the abilty to use the apps I had loaded?
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I don't believe so but I'm not 100% sure. I think Once they have been side-loaded they will still work but adding more app's in the future will be blocked.
I have performed the steps in This Thread to block the updates (OTA's) if you are interested in taking it a step further.
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I don't believe so but I'm not 100% sure. I think Once they have been side-loaded they will still work but adding more app's in the future will be blocked.
I have performed the steps in This Thread to block the updates (OTA's) if you are interested in taking it a step further.
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Is there any reason to actually keep the 1.4.1 update? Like were any bug fixes actually addressed or was it just a big middle finger more or less? Also, was there any chance of a 1.4.2 update in the future and would my nt be able to even update if I blocked the 1.4.1 update. Assuming no on that one?
Elazul2k said:
Is there any reason to actually keep the 1.4.1 update? Like were any bug fixes actually addressed or was it just a big middle finger more or less? Also, was there any chance of a 1.4.2 update in the future and would my nt be able to even update if I blocked the 1.4.1 update. Assuming no on that one?
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Nop there is no reason to keep 1.4.1. About what is fixed in 1.4.1 or what is new, well the only noticeable "new" feature is the lack of sideloading, the rest is a myth because anyone here have been able to see any difference beyond the sideloading thing.
Someone wrote that it supposedly have better battery life but so far no proofs nada de nada mi amigo.
~ Veronica
Currently:
Android version 6.0.1
Model: XT1650-02
Build Number MCLS24.246-36-3
I'm one of many people experiencing issues with the Moto Z (Force) move to Nougat. In doing so, I have choppy audio, tinny sound, popping and crackling as well. When contacting Verizon, they claim that nobody else is complaining about this to a point where their company is notifying its CS reps with a resolution. When contacting Lenovo/Motorola, they claim that they've received a ton of complaints since the Nougat release, and suggested that I bring the phone back for a swap since I had only just purchased it. I did just that, and followed their additional instruction for not updating to Nougat. The only problem is that the freakin thing downloads automatically while on wifi within a day and no way to prevent it that I know of. Now I have this aggressive attempt of the OTA management to get me to start the process. I don't want to, but neither do I want to manage having to ignore this update every day, nor do I want to accidentally initiate the process. I'm looking for a bit of help.
I thought that if I disabled the Motorola OTA service that it wouldn't push. But it did push even though I stopped the service under developer options. And even now that it pushed, I hoped not to get the message, but there it is. And since I don't want to root yet, I can't clear the space in cache where the update is to prevent it from updating accidentally. I'm looking for the names of any other Moto services that might be related to the OTA that I can disable to prevent this from happening. I don't mind factory defaulting my phone and starting over to clear their cache, but once the update actually executes, I'm hosed with crappy audio again. My wife has the same phone and we have one day to get her a new one for free within our return period. We like the phone, do not want to get a different brand, and hope that we can find a solution to this. Again, I want to do this without rooting.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
SuD
Hi,
I myself greenified the app called "Motorola-Updateservices", package name is com.motorola.ccc.ota, apk name is 3c_ota.apk
Since then I never had another notification that nougat is available and I didn't search for updates either of course.
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Currently:
Android version 6.0.1
Model: XT1650-02
Build Number MCLS24.246-36-3
I'm one of many people experiencing issues with the Moto Z (Force) move to Nougat. In doing so, I have choppy audio, tinny sound, popping and crackling as well. When contacting Verizon, they claim that nobody else is complaining about this to a point where their company is notifying its CS reps with a resolution. When contacting Lenovo/Motorola, they claim that they've received a ton of complaints since the Nougat release, and suggested that I bring the phone back for a swap since I had only just purchased it. I did just that, and followed their additional instruction for not updating to Nougat. The only problem is that the freakin thing downloads automatically while on wifi within a day and no way to prevent it that I know of. Now I have this aggressive attempt of the OTA management to get me to start the process. I don't want to, but neither do I want to manage having to ignore this update every day, nor do I want to accidentally initiate the process. I'm looking for a bit of help.
I thought that if I disabled the Motorola OTA service that it wouldn't push. But it did push even though I stopped the service under developer options. And even now that it pushed, I hoped not to get the message, but there it is. And since I don't want to root yet, I can't clear the space in cache where the update is to prevent it from updating accidentally. I'm looking for the names of any other Moto services that might be related to the OTA that I can disable to prevent this from happening. I don't mind factory defaulting my phone and starting over to clear their cache, but once the update actually executes, I'm hosed with crappy audio again. My wife has the same phone and we have one day to get her a new one for free within our return period. We like the phone, do not want to get a different brand, and hope that we can find a solution to this. Again, I want to do this without rooting.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
SuD
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regenwurm16 said:
Hi,
I myself greenified the app called "Motorola-Updateservices", package name is com.motorola.ccc.ota, apk name is 3c_ota.apk
Since then I never had another notification that nougat is available and I didn't search for updates either of course.
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About to download and try it out. If it works, I'll be back in a couple days to report. If it doesn't, I'll be back sooner. Thank you for the suggestion.
Also, if you can provide any specific configurations to manage the OTA, I'm at your disposal.
SuD
PS I won't be searching for updates either, but I will be bugging Lenovo/Motorola to find out when the bug is fixed.
I'm rooted, have xposed and the donation version of the app.
As the OTA app is a system app you can't greenify it without having xposed installed and the donation package of Greenify.
Try to just disable the app with the normal app manager.
standupdad said:
About to download and try it out. If it works, I'll be back in a couple days to report. If it doesn't, I'll be back sooner. Thank you for the suggestion.
Also, if you can provide any specific configurations to manage the OTA, I'm at your disposal.
SuD
PS I won't be searching for updates either, but I will be bugging Lenovo/Motorola to find out when the bug is fixed.
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regenwurm16 said:
I'm rooted, have xposed and the donation version of the app.
As the OTA app is a system app you can't greenify it without having xposed installed and the donation package of Greenify.
Try to just disable the app with the normal app manager.
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Tried that. It didn't prevent download or notifications. Is still stopped.
/Shrug
In this case I sadly can't help then.
standupdad said:
Tried that. It didn't prevent download or notifications. Is still stopped.
/Shrug
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regenwurm16 said:
In this case I sadly can't help then.
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I appreciate the attempt. I know that rooting exposes me to many manageable solutions. I'm holding off for the moment.
standupdad said:
Currently:
Android version 6.0.1
Model: XT1650-02
Build Number MCLS24.246-36-3
I'm one of many people experiencing issues with the Moto Z (Force) move to Nougat. In doing so, I have choppy audio, tinny sound, popping and crackling as well. When contacting Verizon, they claim that nobody else is complaining about this to a point where their company is notifying its CS reps with a resolution. When contacting Lenovo/Motorola, they claim that they've received a ton of complaints since the Nougat release, and suggested that I bring the phone back for a swap since I had only just purchased it. I did just that, and followed their additional instruction for not updating to Nougat. The only problem is that the freakin thing downloads automatically while on wifi within a day and no way to prevent it that I know of. Now I have this aggressive attempt of the OTA management to get me to start the process. I don't want to, but neither do I want to manage having to ignore this update every day, nor do I want to accidentally initiate the process. I'm looking for a bit of help.
I thought that if I disabled the Motorola OTA service that it wouldn't push. But it did push even though I stopped the service under developer options. And even now that it pushed, I hoped not to get the message, but there it is. And since I don't want to root yet, I can't clear the space in cache where the update is to prevent it from updating accidentally. I'm looking for the names of any other Moto services that might be related to the OTA that I can disable to prevent this from happening. I don't mind factory defaulting my phone and starting over to clear their cache, but once the update actually executes, I'm hosed with crappy audio again. My wife has the same phone and we have one day to get her a new one for free within our return period. We like the phone, do not want to get a different brand, and hope that we can find a solution to this. Again, I want to do this without rooting.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
SuD
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Debloater still works on 6.01 run it and 3c_ota.apk will be near the top of the list.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
wolfu11 said:
Debloater still works on 6.01 run it and 3c_ota.apk will be near the top of the list.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
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Can I do this without being rooted?
standupdad said:
Can I do this without being rooted?
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Yes it works for rooted or non rooted.
Anyone done this debloating on a VZW phone? A dash 1 phone?
Please share your experience.
Thank You.
aviwdoowks said:
Anyone done this debloating on a VZW phone? A dash 1 phone?
Please share your experience.
Thank You.
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It worked on 6.01 but no longer on 7.0. If you debloat on 6.01 and take the OTA to 7.0 everything you've debloated stays that way unless you do a factory reset.
for some reason google took away the ability to use the adb commands in 7.0
Almost like they want us to be stuck with bloat lol.
wolfu11 said:
It worked on 6.01 but no longer on 7.0. If you debloat on 6.01 and take the OTA to 7.0 everything you've debloated stays that way unless you do a factory reset.
for some reason google took away the ability to use the adb commands in 7.0
Almost like they want us to be stuck with bloat lol.
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I just tried it and I get some permission error. So it seems after the Dec patch it no longer works on '6.
I have Moto Z Play -1.
any suggestions for someone who might have accidentally downloaded the system update, but hasn't installed it yet? It makes me nervous, having that "new system software is downloaded and ready to install" message b/c I know one day I'll probably accidentally click on it and there won't be a way to go back.
I am a Z play owner.
By installing Z (not play) apps I believe I have disabled the OTA. But I have no nagging update to test it's functionality on.
To my point, if this does work then the reverse should work also.
I will up my apps if anyone want to try it.
My OTA stopper https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3538812
Evidence it will work. https://www.darklaunch.com/2015/04/10/disable-motorolaota
x000x said:
any suggestions for someone .....
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V
Read below.
wolfu11 said:
Yes it works for rooted or non rooted.
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Received the following error:
Code:
Processing changes to: Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Neither user 2000 nor current process has android.permission.MANAGE_USERS.
Drivers installed
USB Debugging set
RSA key accepted
Etc.
Seems a common error with some folks. As for me, this does not work on this phone at this time. Thank you for the nudge to look at this utility, as I have high hopes that its exactly what I need. I have posted in their forum, and have offered to test prototypes.
Thanks again.
standupdad said:
Received the following error:
Code:
Processing changes to: Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Neither user 2000 nor current process has android.permission.MANAGE_USERS.
Drivers installed
USB Debugging set
RSA key accepted
Etc.
Seems a common error with some folks. As for me, this does not work on this phone at this time. Thank you for the nudge to look at this utility, as I have high hopes that its exactly what I need. I have posted in their forum, and have offered to test prototypes.
Thanks again.
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Same as me on my z play.
The last patch did this.