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Well people, it's official. I got mines preordered at GameStop just now. Put $50 dollars down on it for and guaranteed to get it on Dec. 19th for in store pickup. Yeahhhh!
The display model was off when I saw it. I powered it up and it hasn't been charged n less than 2% battery power left SMH hence the quick hands on..lol. For starters, this is the thinnest tablet I've ever held. It's amazing how thin this is. I'm a tall guy, 6'4 so any tablet really thin to me. But I have an iPad also and this thing is wayy thinner and lighter than it. It felt solid but weird to me considering how thin it was. Thin like a sheet of paper..lol After power up, I feasted my eyes upon the most beautiful and detailed display on a mobile device I've ever seen. This was in regular IPS mode also. I cut on Super IPS+ and this thing is bright and detailed as a Mofo! Swiped through the home screens and it was like slick as oil. The fastest and smoothest screen transitions I've seen. Even faster than my iPad. No signs of slowdown at all swiping through various screens or bringing up menus or apps. I check the about section in settings and it is running honeycomb 3.2.1.
I checked through the apps and saw the games thats been on all the reviews shown on TF Prime. First one I played was RipTide. Now mind you I also have the iPad version and seen tegra2 version also. This tegra3 optimized version has a lot more done to it than some added water and blur affects. This game really looked great compared to other versions. It looked more high quality or detailed. Looked like a regular home console game. The framerate was very fast also compared to my iPad version. Definitely impressed with the improvements on that game.
Then I saw the infamous Glowball game. I started it up and realized the volume was off or down n couldn't hear anything. So I cut the volume up to max. Once level started this thing was loud and clear as a Mofo n I had to cut it down. Too loud for in the store. The graphics and special lighting fx in this game was killer. With the high screen resolution and super IPS+ mode on, this game really popped out the screen. The videos reviewers showed on this can't do this game enough justice. Playing and seeing it in person is amazing to see. Haven't seen any ipad1 or ipad2 games yet that can produce this kind of high quality lighting fx and graphics. This tegra3 has really set the bar high for next generation tablets.
To conclude, truly impressed overall with tablet. Even for the brief moments I messed with it. Still hard to believe how thin it really is and how beautiful and high definition looking the display is. I'd say we have a winner here with the Asus Transformer Prime and I cant wait to pick mines up on the 19th. From GameStop.
Thanks, was especially interested to hear your comments of the physical size, thickness, and weight, compared to an iPad.
Awesome, glad to see someone say the colors popped off the screen. I was really concerned about this coming from a Xoom which has some of the most bland colors I've seen. Comparing the display to an Ipad2, do the colors look as vibrant and beautiful as on that tablet? I think I'm getting a TF Prime for Christmas, and I'm getting my fiance an Ipad 2... I don't want to give her any bragging rights lol. Thanks.
This sounds like everything I've imagined it would be and more. Now that I know my GameStop location has a demo in-store, I'm definitely giving it a test. I'm delighted to hear about the fast-screen transitions and that it is indeed running Honeycomb 3.2.1.
The tough part will be leaving the store...
Yeah when I held it too it was remarkably thin. I even touched the galaxy tab 10.1 that was next to it compare the thinnest; Prime looked twice as thin as the Tab. There was a Shooter game on it as well I think called Shadowgun or something. Looked good but didn't play it all that much. There were 2 apps that looked like they needed the internet to work. I believe all the apps are on the video that one guy took when he was in gamestop, on one of these threads in here.
I, TF, sent this on behalf of my owner
That's all i needed to hear!!! Gamestop will get my $50 this week...Thanks for your review!!!!
eL_777 said:
Awesome, glad to see someone say the colors popped off the screen. I was really concerned about this coming from a Xoom which has some of the most bland colors I've seen. Comparing the display to an Ipad2, do the colors look as vibrant and beautiful as on that tablet? I think I'm getting a TF Prime for Christmas, and I'm getting my fiance an Ipad 2... I don't want to give her any bragging rights lol. Thanks.
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On paper and in person, the Prime display is clearly the best of all tablets. I've seen ipad2 displays and they are nice but not as nice as what I saw. Plus the prime has a higher screen resolution and uses a more higher quality/advanced IPS display. Ipad2 uses IPS display. The prime uses Super IPS + display. That's 2 grades higher than iPad 2 display. Very rich in details and colors and definitely bright as a Mofo with super IPS+ mode on. Reason ipad2 display colors look vibrant is because the color palette it uses is ver saturated looking. Cartoon looking. The prime has more natural looking colors and it still pops out very much. Almost 3d looking cuz it looks so good n clear.
So annoying that Gamestop's in my area are so tiny and have no tablets on display. Heck, our Gamestop's are so small, they don't even have demo video game systems either.
so theres no sound issues?
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so theres no sound issues?
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Sounded loud n clear while I was playing Glowball. Actually too loud n had to cut it down.
demandarin said:
Sounded loud n clear while I was playing Glowball. Actually too loud n had to cut it down.
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thats great to hear, i used my ipad for nothing but youtube and music.
Pretty much just sold me even more on the Prime. I can't believe how much people like this thing in its old state. I can't even begin to think of how fast it will be and how high its benchmarks will be on ICS. ICS will bring both hardware acceleration and optimized multi-core support, so I can't even predict how fast the Prime will be then.
My thoughts so far have been: if the TF Prime is being hailed as the best Android tablet in its short-lived launch state with Honeycomb, what will it be like with ICS?
Ok thanks for you review. I am sold!
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For starters, this is the thinnest tablet I've ever held. It's amazing how thin this is. I'm a tall guy, 6'4 so any tablet really thin to me.
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LOL, so things seem thin when you are tall? I figured things would seem short
I'm curious as we all are BUT
hell even my Compaq Ipaq looked great when I tried it in store somewhat 10 years ago.
But I can count with one hand how often I used it cause it was terrible.
Sure we know the Android user experience and so can somewhat guess what is coming.
But still you don't know the specifics of the Prime hardware.
What if all have those Wifi issues or anything else.
It is just to early to lift this on a throne. Calm down people and come to your minds
Thanks demandarin. I did my pre-order from in-store on Saturday too. It was a store that had a tablet section, but no TF201 on display, nor did they know what I was talking about when I asked about it. They thought it was a console game of some kind.
Luckily, the GameStop directly across the street from my work in downtown Boston has one for display, supposedly. I'm going to swing by at lunch to see if I can get some hands-on time as well.
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I can't even begin to think of how fast it will be and how high its benchmarks will be on ICS. ICS will bring both hardware acceleration and optimized multi-core support, so I can't even predict how fast the Prime will be then.
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Looks like any speed increases from ICS will come from optimization and not from ICS being inherently better at hardware acceleration than Honeycomb.
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
I'm not even sure the ICS will improve all that much over Honeycomb in terms of multi-core support, but I don't remember seeing anything on that.
Not saying ICS won't be great, just not sure that we're going to see the kind of improvement over Honeycomb that some folks are expecting.
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Ok thanks for you review. I am sold!
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No problem. I wish I would've spent more time with it but had my woman n daughter waiting in the car for me. It's been a very long time since I preordered something to get it release day. I think the last time I did so was when NBA jams tournament edition came out for the Sega Genesis..lmfao.
Still amazed at how thin it was. I definitely have to find a nice case for it. The Asus widgets like myzine looked pretty nice also. I have some sick wallpapers I'd love to put on that beautiful display. I might wait till after ICS to root although I'll be able to root as soon as I take it out the box. It will be hard though. I just don't want to root now then ICS comes out OTA and it throws up some b.s. That it can't install. I think I can be patient enough to wait. My main reason for rooting my phone was to get wireless tether and barnacle working. This tablet is wifi only so not as pressed. Unless developers come up with a sick rom to over clock this Mofo to like 2GHz or more per core
I spent some time with one at GameStop tonight. The browser isn't nearly as fluid as it is on my iPad 2 but I'm going to hold out hope for some magic with ICS.
I played with some of the other tablets in the mall - Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the 8.9 with the 1.5Ghz dual core, and they felt very sluggish compared to the Prime. The Prime is very smooth in the UI, so it feels like they have headroom for some browser optimizations.
UI looked unfettered with the typical oem crap, and the hardware was beautiful.
Will it replace my iPad 2 for casual use? Hard to say, I'm crazy in to Infinity Blade II right now, and don't (yet) see anything comparable in the Market, but this is unquestionably the best android tablet yet, and I'm really excited to get mine and get to know post-Gingerbread Android.
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I spent some time with one at GameStop tonight. The browser isn't nearly as fluid as it is on my iPad 2 but I'm going to hold out hope for some magic with ICS.
I played with some of the other tablets in the mall - Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the 8.9 with the 1.5Ghz dual core, and they felt very sluggish compared to the Prime. The Prime is very smooth in the UI, so it feels like they have headroom for some browser optimizations.
UI looked unfettered with the typical oem crap, and the hardware was beautiful.
Will it replace my iPad 2 for casual use? Hard to say, I'm crazy in to Infinity Blade II right now, and don't (yet) see anything comparable in the Market, but this is unquestionably the best android tablet yet, and I'm really excited to get mine and get to know post-Gingerbread Android.
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How do you feel the Transformer Prime display fares against the ipad 2 display? Does it look colorful and vibrant in a way similar to the ipad 2? Looked at the original transformer display in a store the other day and wasn't all that impressed. Thanks for you input.
With all the complaints in this forum, you'd think this was a bad device.
I'll tell you, over in the tf101 forum there was no where near as many complaints and the tf101 wasn't the perfect device either.
The prime is an improvement in alot of ways.
The tf101 had backlight bleeds, I went through 3 of them before I settled.
The tf101 was sluggish, no one here can fully respect the power of the tegra 3 processor without experiencing the tegra 2. The boot time was like 4 minutes, it was slow in alot of areas that the prime isn't.
It had to use honeycomb up until 2 weeks ago, that's about a year - prime owners got it asap with a slew of support from asus for the gps/wifi issues.
The tf101 had keyboard dock issues, alot of the docks had to be sent back in.
It was fat and plastic. It was brown. It collected dust under it's camera.
It wasn't perfect.
But what device is? Galaxy tabs are diet vanilla, nothing really special or innovative about them. The follow the ipad status quo. Toshiba tabs are jokes on battery life. Acers are humongous. Ipads use proprietary apple garbage and are extremely limited by their OEM.
When I got my prime I would grip this thing tightly and say to myself "I own a ****ing transformer prime".
I waited for this thing for months through using my tf101, when everyone was hoping Q4 release meant October, but october stretched on to november, and then december when it finally came out.
But this exceptional tablet gets overshadowed by a couple of it's faults, rather than how great it's advantages are.
We own the world's first quad core tablet, it's thin, it's beautiful, it get's ridiculous battery life with it's incredibly well designed keyboard dock. We have usb connectivity, micro sd, full sized sd, hdmi, etc. Some devices don't have any of those, let alone all of them like we do.
Sure something better will come. Maybe you want a more expensive Ipad 3 with a redundant screen resolution, slower cpu, thicker design to compensate for it's thirst of excessive battery life, and lack of expansion. It's not perfect and the devices after it won't be either...
It's time we be happy prime owners. Asus did design a good device, and they don't receive credit where credit is due. I'm proud to own this tablet.
@OP: The Church of Primetology seeks chaplain
!Hail to you, oh holy Prime, father of connection lacking communication specialists!
Forgive me that I don't see your creators wisdom as he provided you also with that microsd slot so this shall be your door to the world.
Just let your green light shine and don't punch the xcsd out again because I will not find it in the sewage where I would be looking for my missing GPS if you hadn't already disappeared somewhere on a shelf of the ASUS repdep. Thank you for having enlighten my life longer than a week. Which is exceptional or was it the rule?
Give me a thank or another tablet will you.
I endorse the OP post. I ran out of thanks. good viewpoint/angle on the situation. preach on my brother thrash all those who committed sins against the prime. they need redemption NOW! lol
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Agree w the OP. I ranted about its short comings when I first got it, but after using it for a few weeks, I love it. It really is a beautiful device and fast. Its my first tab so maybe my expectations were too high at first.
BTW, what do you mean by redundant screen?
This a great device once you get it to work without crash. Everything's stable for me on .15 nd the browsing is super fast thanks to OC 1.6ghz ... its perfect for what I do
Honestly looking at benchmark (I'm at 13162) scores its the best android device out now by far
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I really like it. I'm not an Asus fanboy, in fact I try as hard as possible to not be a fanboy of anything.
That being said, there were and are shortcomings. But over time the bugs will get ironed out, CM9 and other ROM makers will do some wonders.
I don't know, when I use the Prime (especially with the new floaty browser!) I feel more like I'm using a computer, not an appliance. You know, file management is in my hands, I can f*** around with the OS, break it if I want. Whenever I use my friends' or coworkers' iDevices they just feel like appliances with a shallow OS.
But I'm not trying to sell anyone on it. Some people like it, some people don't. I like seams, I like tinkering. I learn more from it. All those folks complaining about their wifi, gps, screen issues; I guarantee you they have learned MUCH more about those aspects of mobile computing because of those faults.
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I endorse the OP post. I ran out of thanks. good viewpoint/angle on the situation. preach on my brother thrash all those who committed sins against the prime. they need redemption NOW! lol
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lol how do you run out of thanks?
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lol how do you run out of thanks?
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the thanks button underneath a post. you only have 8 per day.
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BTW, what do you mean by redundant screen?
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OP probably means retina display shows everything so cristallclear now you can look at it through a microscope...
Give me a thank or another tablet will you.
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
prizm74 said:
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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Galaxy tab smoother than the prime, that's cute haha. I can see how those sharp rounded corners would be a pain seeing as how they would break the laws of physics and all, can't be having that.
I'm just meeting with you though, to each his own
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prizm74 said:
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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a few things i hate about the galaxy tab 10.1 wifi was the newton rings on the screen...it gets worse and worse over time.
also it did not have a microsd slot nor a micro hdmi.
those were the deal breakers for me
less people complained about Toyotas having brakes that didnt work than have whined like babies about this TOY. and look at that, Toyota's still the #1 car manufacturer. so when people say we ''settled'' for our Primes, they are sorely mistaken. my Prime had to settle for ME as a user, as it is FAR beyond anything i can hope to do. I love my Prime, best gadget I ever bought
agree with the OP
I completely agree with the OP.
This device is really top notch.
Build quality is amazing, quad core is very nice (definitely will be more utilized in the close future, thank you xda ), multitasking is just awesome.
Converting from an ipad, I can safely say BYE APPLE!
Yes the "new ipad" has an amazing screen, I'll take the TFP thank you.
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Agree w the OP. I ranted about its short comings when I first got it, but after using it for a few weeks, I love it. It really is a beautiful device and fast. Its my first tab so maybe my expectations were too high at first.
BTW, what do you mean by redundant screen?
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Yeah...........wouldn't want to expect what was advertised !
Design? Who else designs a micro sd card slot that once a card is inserted, it can "Self" eject at any time !
The only thing ground breaking with this tablet is Tegra 3 and an all metal back............but I think we all know why no one else uses an all metal back, by now!
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less people complained about Toyotas having brakes that didnt work than have whined like babies about this TOY. and look at that, Toyota's still the #1 car manufacturer. so when people say we ''settled'' for our Primes, they are sorely mistaken. my Prime had to settle for ME as a user, as it is FAR beyond anything i can hope to do. I love my Prime, best gadget I ever bought
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I hate to correct you, but Toyota lost 16% of sales last year and is now no.3 after GM and VW (by a wide margin). Having said that I also have only good things to say about my lovely Prime, but it`s certainly important to note, that I don`t really use the GPS, since that duty is up to my GN. In any case I also respect other opinions, but life is sometimes nicer looking at a glass that is half full compared to viewing it as half empty
Coming from the Acer Iconia A500, I can honestly say that the ATP is WAY better in every way but one. The wifi is slightly poorer than on the Acer. That one was far from perfect either when coming to wifi. And the ranting in the Acer forum is way way less than on this forum.
I am simply AMAZED that some people expect their tablet to have a functionel GPS INDOORS!!! I can´t even get satelite lock indoors with my Garmin car gps.
I fixed the wifi problem quite simply by adding a second wifi router in the house using the house wires. And people complain about not getting a signal when they are other places than home... I just bring my own wifi in the form of a Huawei E586 (Search on Ebay)
On my Acer I had poor wifi, sluggish scrolling and browsing, squicky body, and a front and back part that did not want to stay together down in the left corner, Heavy, FAT, poor battery compared to the ATP, no alternatives regarding dockingstation.....the list just goes on.
And worst of all compared to ATP... Acers EXTREMLY POOR customer service. If you think that ASUS has bad service...try Acer!!!
Updates took forever compared to other tablet makers. I think the tf101 and Xoom got HC 3.2 about 2 months before any Acer tablet did.
I think that Acer A500/501/200 users still have to wait yet another couple of months before they get ICS.
When the A500 came out it had HC 3.0 and people had to wait several months to even get the HC 3.1. If you have ever tried the HC 3.0 you would be reluctant to even so much as try to complain about the ATP.
So if you think that ASUS works slowly to fix things.... THINK AGAIN!!
prizm74 said:
this is kind of weird and hard to understand how you guys settle with a device that has a lot of design flaws on both hardware and software. Asus transformer prime was my first tablet. And to be honest the one I got had nearly no light bleed, an okay wifi, kind of working GPS and fairly stable device in comparison with the horror stories that we all know through the forum. I made the though call return my transformer prime one day before my return window. The idea I had was wait a little until Asus get the problems fixed and buy a great one. However, I realized that I have to have a tablet as waiting for a fixed transformer. So I went ahead and bought a Samsung galaxy tab from Costco which has a 90 days return window. Here is my impression out of my first 10 days
-way stable. Had to reboot only one time due to firmware upgrade.
-no hiccups as I use or browse. It is dual core but performs way better than the balance mode of transformer
-screen readability is better than transformer
-wifi, GPS and Bluetooth works in a way it is suposed to be
- Form factor way comfortable than prime. No sharp uncomfortable edges. Way better feeling in your hand. I don't believe I would have written this.
-battery last way longer than prime
There are a few benefits that prime has over.
super ips display is better for outdoor use
Tergra 3 may be better for tegra optimized games. But I am not a game person and use my tablet for business.
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HAHA your funny!!!! I have both sitting right in front of me and I can tell you the galaxy tab doesn't even come close to the performance as our primes. I have to test on both with our applications at work and I cringe every time I pick it up. Even the ipads 1's perform better then that brick.
I finally decided to go buy an iPad 2 because of the price drop. I convinced myself that I wanted the app selection that the iPad has. But for some strange reason, the iPad is leaving me unfulfilled and I keep grabbing the prime. Once you go android its almost impossible to go back to iOS without feeling like you need more. Don't get me wrong, the apps are great on the iPad but...........its just not right.
This exactly is what I keep trying to tell my iPhone friends when they ask why I keep buying Android phones and devices. It isn't as if there is anything really wrong with the iPhone or iPad. They are honestly really great devices. However once you have played with an Android phone for a while, the lack of options in iDevices can be frustrating.
Thats how it is with apple As long as you just use apple stuff you feel like its the best thing in the world. I know various people (switzerland is apple land) that tell me in all honesty that iTunes is the best program for music and connecting mobile devices to a home PC.
I also felt that when i had my ipod touch and a cheap nokia brick phone back in the days that with my jailbroken ipod touch i could do everything i could imagine. Until i bought my DHD and put CWM recovery on it. I have next to no programing/coding/compiling knowledge but i was able to make my own themes and put toghether my own mods and .zips (UOT kitchen ftw) and edit roms with bootanimations etc in no time.
lulz i went OT again
I believe you. I think the world hasnt realized yet how great android works for tablets especially if you add that dock. I really hope Android will get the primary dev platform for Tablet apps. Apple makes great products but its just sad that they put everything in their own special garden (app store) where only special people (apple users) have access. Figuratively speaking.
I have a dream where devs can make ARM/OpenGL apps. And those apps just work on any ARM device, no matter if android iOS or Windows on ARM.
iOS is boring. Same ol Same ol. Simple for the kids to use.
Android was meant to be on a tablet. Widgets, cool notifications. alot more
customization. More eye appeal.
Apple has some good hardware there. The real question is iOS really a tablet
solution? iOS works for the kiddies, old etc. Its simple and familar to everyone.
But, just doesn't cut it for me. Especially when you see Android and what you can do with it.
Turn on either machine, get past the lock screen to the home screen and which one makes you say "Oh yeahhhh!" compared to "Ick. I hear 8 bit nintendo sounds in my head". Its visceral which is better in terms of the pride of ownership.
But I give up.
I will need both. I just can't take notes (as I've whined about almost everywhere) on the Prime and I *need*/*want* a great multitracker/amp emulator/music creation option on a tablet.
So anyone have a great deal on a black WiFi 32MB iPad2? I promise to not let it molest my prime.
(who am I kidding...the Prime would be doing the molesting...)
I'm over my Ipad now that I have the prime. I just let daughter n woman use it now. I have no interest or desire to use it anymore. 99% of the apps I have on Ipad I have on Android now. I only miss playing infinity blade2 and Broken Sword series. I also had tons of great photo editing software on Ipad. Android needs this badly. Photo editing sux on Android aside from adobe apps. But I had Ipad photo apps that blow away the adobe ones as far as editing features n such goes.
All in all, Ipad did me well for 2yrs. Time to move on to bigger n better things. The prime. Plus I find I don't play the games as much anymore on my prime compared to my Ipad. Although I have majority of the dame games. Just seems like Prime/Android is a more grown up experience.
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I finally decided to go buy an iPad 2 because of the price drop. I convinced myself that I wanted the app selection that the iPad has. But for some strange reason, the iPad is leaving me unfulfilled and I keep grabbing the prime. Once you go android its almost impossible to go back to iOS without feeling like you need more. Don't get me wrong, the apps are great on the iPad but...........its just not right.
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The same thing happen to me when the first transformer came out,I bought the transformer and the return it for the iPad,jailbreak it play with for a week and felt that the iPad is not mad for me..
Great device,but too much limitation..
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I bought a prime, and i keep grabbing my...er...nevermind.
My new ipad vs my tf201
The local store gave me $200 to exchange my ipad 1 so I took the plunge and picked up the new ipad. I have a family of 5 so we keep a couple of tablets...now a couple of nice ones.
My observations:
ipad:
-screen is great...colour saturation is very good as is black level.
-video looks spectacular. Text is e-ink sharp.
-no backlight bleed.
-speed? Well some things are faster than the ipad 1 of course...but most apps I use had no speed bottleneck on the ipad 1.
Dungeon defenders runs like butter compared to ipad 1...but the resolution is still scaled from 1024x768...so you still have the aliasing, etc....looks just like the ipad 2 until they update these apps for retina.
Switching back to the prime though and I find very little to choose...the 1280x800 screen is still excellent for a screen this size.
TF201:
-I give the ipad just a slight edge...not a deal breaker though. A 1080p TF701 will be every bit the equal of the ipad 3 screen wise.
-I have to say that after a few months I really prefer the android customizations and widgets on the home screen.
-The ipad 3 feels quite a bit heavier...the TF201 really sets the bar for being thin and light...and this is not to be understated.
-app support of course is better with ipad...my family loves playing with garage band for example....and this kind of support is (as everyone knows) the only real thing holding back android at the moment
-flash support still matters for me in my daily usage of these devices
So bottom line...which one would I prefer in my bag while travelling? For browsing, email, docs, and most of my regular usage...its the tf201 for now. The customizations in android win it for me. For my kids and my wife? The ipad with the app support wins the day.
I will post some wifi tests when I get back home.
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good comparison. thanks. have you tried to run any apps you have on both devices. like tegra3 version of Shadowgun vs. Ipad shadowgun? I already know which the better version but just want to see if you notice any graphical improvements on Ipad. so most apps so far have been upscaled? do they look like blown up iPhone apps? any chance you can post a screenshot of the same wallpaper on both devices? to compare quality. or take a pic of both.
Thanks for the comparison.
Thanks for the quick comparison of the two.
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The local store gave me $200 to exchange my ipad 1 so I took the plunge and picked up the new ipad. I have a family of 5 so we keep a couple of tablets...now a couple of nice ones.
My observations:
ipad:
-screen is great...colour saturation is very good as is black level.
-video looks spectacular. Text is e-ink sharp.
-no backlight bleed.
-speed? Well some things are faster than the ipad 1 of course...but most apps I use had no speed bottleneck on the ipad 1.
Dungeon defenders runs like butter compared to ipad 1...but the resolution is still scaled from 1024x768...so you still have the aliasing, etc....looks just like the ipad 2 until they update these apps for retina.
Switching back to the prime though and I find very little to choose...the 1280x800 screen is still excellent for a screen this size.
TF201:
-I give the ipad just a slight edge...not a deal breaker though. A 1080p TF701 will be every bit the equal of the ipad 3 screen wise.
-I have to say that after a few months I really prefer the android customizations and widgets on the home screen.
-The ipad 3 feels quite a bit heavier...the TF201 really sets the bar for being thin and light...and this is not to be understated.
-app support of course is better with ipad...my family loves playing with garage band for example....and this kind of support is (as everyone knows) the only real thing holding back android at the moment
-flash support still matters for me in my daily usage of these devices
So bottom line...which one would I prefer in my bag while travelling? For browsing, email, docs, and most of my regular usage...its the tf201 for now. The customizations in android win it for me. For my kids and my wife? The ipad with the app support wins the day.
I will post some wifi tests when I get back home.
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Good review. I also found the color saturation to be amazing. It really has that Sammy look and feel. The maximum level of brightness was higher than I expected. I really can't wait to try out Namco's Sky Gamblers Air Supremacy to see this hardware really in action. Infinity Blade 2 got a resolution update for the new iPad's screen. For apps there's no comparison between the new iPad and Prime.
The ONLY thing that stands out on the Prime for me is the awesome Live My Wallpaper...I love it.. and the netbook setup. I'd have to say that outside of games/video, I prefer the feel of the Prime.
I have been on the fence about choosing between the two as well. I have 2 small children that really enjoy playing with my OG 7 inch galaxy tab. However, they were blown away by a friend's ipad. I will probably get one of the refurb models of the ipad 2 from the apple store so I can still get my transformer prime.
thx for the comparison. I can totally see your points. So you say in the end the ipad is more of a very nice toy, and the prime is a bit more business oriented, while being very equal otherwise. Of course for me there are many other +'s for the prime because i'll use it for University and i love to play older games with that gamepad on emulators
So a friend of mine wants to buy an ipad soon (he's one of those apple guys) if money is an issue (they'll have a kid soon) would you say the new ipad is worth the extra money compared to the ipad 2?
I like the Prime more than my new iPad just because iOS hasn't changed at all so it gets pretty boring. The screen is really stunning but in reality, I really think of it as just an over sized iPod like many others. Not that I'm saying it's not a great device but Apple really needs something new on the software side of things.
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thx for the comparison. I can totally see your points. So you say in the end the ipad is more of a very nice toy, and the prime is a bit more business oriented, while being very equal otherwise. Of course for me there are many other +'s for the prime because i'll use it for University and i love to play older games with that gamepad on emulators
So a friend of mine wants to buy an ipad soon (he's one of those apple guys) if money is an issue (they'll have a kid soon) would you say the new ipad is worth the extra money compared to the ipad 2?
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I don't think it's worth an extra $200 the only noticeable difference you will see it the screen and the 2 is also lighter and thinner.
Nice unbiased comparison. I really think the infinity tab will be the one to beat this year (although I'm sure apple fans will claim supremacy)
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mike infinity said:
The local store gave me $200 to exchange my ipad 1 so I took the plunge and picked up the new ipad. I have a family of 5 so we keep a couple of tablets...now a couple of nice ones.
My observations:
ipad:
-screen is great...colour saturation is very good as is black level.
-video looks spectacular. Text is e-ink sharp.
-no backlight bleed.
-speed? Well some things are faster than the ipad 1 of course...but most apps I use had no speed bottleneck on the ipad 1.
Dungeon defenders runs like butter compared to ipad 1...but the resolution is still scaled from 1024x768...so you still have the aliasing, etc....looks just like the ipad 2 until they update these apps for retina.
Switching back to the prime though and I find very little to choose...the 1280x800 screen is still excellent for a screen this size.
TF201:
-I give the ipad just a slight edge...not a deal breaker though. A 1080p TF701 will be every bit the equal of the ipad 3 screen wise.
-I have to say that after a few months I really prefer the android customizations and widgets on the home screen.
-The ipad 3 feels quite a bit heavier...the TF201 really sets the bar for being thin and light...and this is not to be understated.
-app support of course is better with ipad...my family loves playing with garage band for example....and this kind of support is (as everyone knows) the only real thing holding back android at the moment
-flash support still matters for me in my daily usage of these devices
So bottom line...which one would I prefer in my bag while travelling? For browsing, email, docs, and most of my regular usage...its the tf201 for now. The customizations in android win it for me. For my kids and my wife? The ipad with the app support wins the day.
I will post some wifi tests when I get back home.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
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Good review. Yes, I went down to local BB and did about the same for the kids. The new screen on the New iPad is really sharp. I was surprised just how sharp web pages are. Pretty amazing. Usually when you zoom in on text with iPad 2 it gets blurred. This thing didn't blur at all.
I didn't notice any lightbleed from mine either. HOWEVER... If you look at an 170 degree angle under the black bezel of the new iPad. And I mean way under there. It was not totally sealed. Some slight light was coming thru. Oh well. I didn't see any lightbleed coming onto the screen. That is what counts.
Kids are happy. I am happy. Prime still is my beast. HD youtube. Diceplayer 1080p video and etc still looks a hell of alot better on the prime. And its faster. Plus I would never use iOS over Android. iOS blows so much.
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Nice unbiased comparison. I really think the infinity tab will be the one to beat this year (although I'm sure apple fans will claim supremacy)
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When is the infinity tab scheduled to be released?
Anyone have any opinions or experience on whether it's better to go with the TF201 or S2110 from Lenovo? I found the S2110 16GB w/ keyboard for $399 and it seemed too good to pass up. I'm worried though because I haven't seen any reviews and the most comparable device seems to be the TF201. How do you think the S2110 stacks up against it?
http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tablet/ideapad/s2110/
Don't think the dock is included for that price... (Unless you're not referring to the lenovo site). But yeah, wondering the same thing... Looks pretty good and would love to give it a try but haven't found any reviews yet.
I would want the 3g one but it's not listed
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I don't know if you are interested but you can get a TF300 with free keyboard from Sears for 359.00.
dagrim1 said:
Don't think the dock is included for that price... (Unless you're not referring to the lenovo site). But yeah, wondering the same thing... Looks pretty good and would love to give it a try but haven't found any reviews yet.
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I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
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I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
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Cool, sweet deal... wonder how you'll like it
racerex said:
I found a special deal on the S2110 for $399 including the keyboard dock so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it. There are literally zero reviews of this thing so I'll post up a YouTube video once it arrives. I have a Nexus7 and a Samsung GS3 but honestly I feel here is too much overlap between the two. I'm hoping the S2110 will give me more of a computing experience similar to what the TF201 offers. Worst case scenario if I don't like the S2110 I'll sell it and pickup an Asus device.
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I could never splash that much cash without reading umpteen reviews. I admire you.
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I could never splash that much cash without reading umpteen reviews. I admire you.
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Normally I wouldn't but given the great deal I got I can likely sell it for little to no loss.
Lenovo is a good brand, the only concern is that it's not sure the community devels will be very active, so you could be stuck with branded ROM and so on.
I was able to get my hands on this tablet for a week 2 weeks ago. Alas, I didn't get the keyboard dock with it. I did some quick benchmarks:
AnTuTu Benchmark - 6781
Quadrant - 4797
Vellamo - 2203
CF-Bench Over all Score - 9261
SunSpider - 1930.1 ms
Battery Test. I looped a 42 minute 720p MKV file with screen at 50% brightness and wifi always connected. Tablet last 9h 14m.
I have taken screen shots of all the tests. If we compare to the results table on this review, http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/ , the Lenovo lands in the middle of the ASUS Transformer Prime and the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 in terms of benchmark results.I can say I quite like this tablet and it's responsiveness. It has a custom launcher, but I like it. Other than that, it looks like Ice Cream Sandwich is left alone. Speakers are fairly loud compared to previous tablets. Viewing angle on the screen is great. Oh and the screen itself is very nice! There is a little creakiness to the case- I would say it was similar to what I had in the Asus Transformer. I really dislike the power button- it is plastic-y and hard to push, but manageable.
I got a great deal at $374 INCLUDING keyboard dock, so I am fairly confident for the price it will be a great tablet. But my ordering experience from Lenovo has been an absolute nightmare.
I just took my TF700 back owing to bluetooth audio lag problems (which Asus says will be "improved" but not fixed in a future OTA) and I'm hoping the S2110 will be the answer to my keyboard + bluetooth audio prayers...
Just got my 2110
I just got my 2110 with the keyboard today. It wouldn't have been my first choice because of the lack of dev community, but I got it for free from my companies Lenovo rep.
So far it is extremely smooth and the keyboard is more useful than I thought it would be.
It is thin, light weight, and although it is mostly plastic it still feels well built.
The interface that Lenovo adds is minimal and kinda useless, but has some nice features. It changes the way widgets are added, the way wallpapers are changed, and it has some transition options for the home screen and app drawer. Other than that it is stock ICS.
I really do like this tablet, and as soon as the dev community picks up buying this would be a no-brainer in my opinion.
Dego41 said:
I just got my 2110 with the keyboard today. It wouldn't have been my first choice because of the lack of dev community, but I got it for free from my companies Lenovo rep.
So far it is extremely smooth and the keyboard is more useful than I thought it would be.
It is thin, light weight, and although it is mostly plastic it still feels well built.
The interface that Lenovo adds is minimal and kinda useless, but has some nice features. It changes the way widgets are added, the way wallpapers are changed, and it has some transition options for the home screen and app drawer. Other than that it is stock ICS.
I really do like this tablet, and as soon as the dev community picks up buying this would be a no-brainer in my opinion.
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About the keyboard dock, you could use conbination keys just like in windows such as : "alt+tab" to switch between in different running apps. "ctrl+alt+delete" to show all the running apps and even "ctrl+c""ctrl+v" to copy and paste texts
I'm on the hunt for a nexus 10 at a local staples - the majority of posts I see in here are people *****ing about performance issues and light bleed or other build quality problems. Meanwhile I do see posts about people absolutely in love with the N10 (rightfully so)
The light bleed thread seems like a nightmare - although people who RMA a device 6 times should really get a life and move on to a different product. Is the light bleed really a major issue or should I go ahead and buy one?
Sorry for the junk thread but I didn't see very many threads in here where people are actually giving credit to the N10 and singing praises. hard to guage the "fringe" vs "the average person's experience"
Alrighty...my Nexus 10 is fantastic. Staples followed through on their promised two-day delivery, I have no light bleed, and the thing hasn't crashed or rebooted once. I immediately installed Paranoid Android on the thing, didn't even once boot the stock JB it came with. Couldn't be happier.
I love mine, i have not had any issues. My battery life is really great, works awesome and i am on stock, with multiple users running.
I love my Nexus. I had a Xoom WIFI (that is now the girlfriend's) that I loved and my Nexus blows it out of the water. I have Task650 and KToonsez's AOKP on there with KToonsez's KT Manta kernel and it's a beast. Combined with ES File Explorer, Netflix and Hulu the tablet is the ultimate portable media device as well as great for browsing and e-reading.
Love it. I have a little light bleed and it doesn't bother me at all. I don't get why it matters I guess.
I love mine. It is flawless. 16GB from Google directly
I really like mine (32gb, stock rom). The screen is amazing, especially with pages that have good text renderers. The tablet also has state-of-the-art performance in day-to-day use. No light bleed at all in mine. Native resolution apps are scarce on the ground, which is a bit of an issue but one that should be resolved shortly (I hope) as Android tablets seem primed to explode in popularity.
One annoying problem I've run into is Chrome's instability. Chrome has crashed at least once per day since I got it. When I say "crash", I mean full system lock-up, requiring a hard reboot. I've resorted to using Dolphin and Firefox with no problems. Google needs to fix tablet Chrome, though.
I'm not too impressed with the (inevitable) thermal throttling that basically makes the advertised 1.7GHz dual-core speed, a lie :/ But, to be fair, most of what I do on the N10 works fine and performs just fine
But still... essentially not being able to run a demanding game for too long isn't impressive...
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One annoying problem I've run into is Chrome's instability. Chrome has crashed at least once per day since I got it. When I say "crash", I mean full system lock-up, requiring a hard reboot. I've resorted to using Dolphin and Firefox with no problems. Google needs to fix tablet Chrome, though.
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I've used Chrome for a while now on my tablet, with 0 crashes or system lockups, but have heard many stories of people mentioning Chrome crashing and etc. Not really too sure what I might be doing different though...
Best tablet I've ever used. Screen quality is astounding, everything about it as as smooth as butter, web browsing with Ocean works like a dream, gaming on it is great, no lightbleed, and it's been stable as a rock. I literally couldn't be any happier with this tablet.
I have to admit I"m only on day 2 of ownership so that may skew some things, but I absolutely adore mine. Its fast, the screen is amazing, and the build quality is quite good. Its easily the best tablet I've ever owned in every single category except battery life, and even there its not bad at all.
Do I have light bleed? Yes. However, I've gone through absolute hell with warranty repairs trying to get my previous HP Touchpad's light bleed fixed which eventually resulted in them cracking the screen and my successfully suing them in small claims court (For the crack which they claimed was my fault and warranty voiding, not the light bleed). Following that, I went through four Transformer Infinities, of which three had light bleed. Its just a defect common in IPS/PLS displays, through the three tablets I've owned (all of different manufactures) I've learned its completely unrealistic to expect a perfect one. If its not an absolutely horrible amount, live with it. If you cant, get an iPad or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
Do I have the creaking back plastic? Yes. Every tablet made of plastic is going to have some problems. The speakers on the touchpad are notorious for cracking spontaneously. The Note 10.1 is so thin you can actually see it flex. With devices this big made of plastic, its unrealistic to not expect some sort of cheap feel. The Nexus 10 has it pretty good compared to some of the other tablets, so live with it if you can. If you cant, get a metal tablet or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
Do I have the thermal throttling? I dont know yet. But realize you're running a 1.7Ghz processor in something slightly thicker than a ball point pen. Look in ANY desktop or laptop computer of equivalent speed (yes, I know x86 and ARM are not directly comparable, but go with it for this) and you'll find a massive heatsink and fan. The Nexus 10 does not have a fan because nobody would buy a tablet with such, and the heatsink is quite thin to keep the dimensions down. You still have one of the fastest tablets on the market. Think of the 1.7Ghz not as a top sustainable speed, but like the "Turboboost" mode on modern Intel i3/5/7 CPUs where it'll ramp up to that speed to complete a task as quickly as possible and then dial back to something more easily sustainable. I'll admit that Google should add something to Android where if it knows a game is running it limits its top speed to prevent this very throttling, but that's on Android and not the device itself. Throttle the CPU back yourself, live with it, or realize that tablet computers are NOT for you.
TL;DR: This is a good tablet computer. Like all tablet computers, or like anything really, you shouldn't have unrealistic expectations.
Its very good. I think Google still has a ways to go though in the tablet world but its getting much better. Still the best android 10 inch out there.
I absolutely love mine. It is lightning fast, runs more games than my Infinity, the screen is incredible and the tablet has given me zero trouble. The battery life/slow charging is only a small ding for me.
Having had mine since release, I still love it. Easily better than my iPad 3 was, and massively better than any other android tablet. So powerful. The screen is so sick. The front speakers.
I agree with those saying chrome is a pos, the aosp browser is so much better! Weird as chrome works well on my n4. There is a tiny bit of "light bleed" in the bottom right cover, but as others have said this is a fundamental characteristic of backlit screens. My TV has much worse light bleed than my tablet!
I've been using mine for 2 weeks now, this is my first and only tablet.
I love the feel and form factor of the 10. It's lightweight and easy to use with one hand or two, but it still feels sturdy to me. I love that I can pack it around the house with me, or lay down in bed and prop it up in my arms and comfortably watch some YouTube or TV shows on Hulu. The overall mobility is great, and I especially look forward to traveling with it.
I'm happy with the media content. I've been with Android since day 1, so I didn't want to leave behind all the apps and content I've purchased up to now. From what I can tell I won't be missing out on any of my core apps, magazines, movies, etc... I will concede that right now many developers seem to just be blowing up their apps to fit the 10, instead of optimizing the app to fit. I'm hopeful this will improve in 2013.
Performance wise it's been a mixed bag for me. I'm running stock and unrooted with Nova Launcher. 95% of the time navigation and usage is buttery smooth, but it's not completely perfect. I have had issues with Chrome freezing up and causing the tablet to restart, so I'm using dolphin. I've had just a few other times when it's rebooted randomly. Gaming on the 10 is overall a superb experience, however I do have issues with lag and stutter in NFS Most Wanted and on rare occasions in Sword & Sorcery. I am sort of bugged that the gaming experience is superior on an Ipad, but I couldn't bring myself to buy one just for that. All of these things are annoyances at worst - not deal breakers for me. It's embarrassing though to have the system I love have issues like these right out of the box. Again, this is my first tablet so I'm unaware of what the experience is like on other tablets and OS'es and if this is a common thing or not. The positives are that I can use this thing for 3 days and have 6 hours of screen time without having to charge it. I like that.
The screen is fantastic! Prior to receiving my tablet I'd been lurking in the "Damnit, my Nexus has light bleed" thread and had myself half scared to death that that light bleed would ruin my experience with the 10. I do have pretty severe yellow bleed in my corners, but surprisingly it doesn't really ever become noticeable in my day to day use. It bugs me that it's still there and I have requested a replacement on the basis that I expect a near mint copy if I'm paying $400 for it, but I think you can get by most of the time without ever noticing that it's an issue. YMMV. If my next one is bad I might even keep mine because I don't think I have any other issues with it.
My overall experience is very positive. I do wish that the screen bleed issues weren't there and that Samsung actually would have taken the time to calibrate the color and gamma on the panel as well. I'm a perfectionist in my work, so it dumbfounds me to thing that 2 companies like Samsung and Google could release a flawed product, but this seems to be the best choice available to me so I've taken it. My nexus is basically a $400 bedside toy right now, but I love it! Eventually I will transition to getting a bluetooth keyboard and purchase one of the office suite products and use it for true productivity purposes.
I like the device but I hate the state that it's in right now. I can't believe they released this to the public with the not only the software issues that are well known, but the usb charging to top it off.
This thing should still be in final beta stages, not out in the public for nearly 2 months already.
Well my nexus legacy will continue - just ordered the 16gb on google play (what are the chances it becomes in stock as I make this thread heh)....
It will be a battle between this and the acer w510 tablet I picked up (x86 windows 8 tablet). Definitely need to get a bluetooth keyboard case ordered though.
I really liked it when it worked. I did have the hard freezes which required reboots. they were always caused by Chrome. When I unistalled Chrome and put in the AOSP Browser it was much better. The one thing I couldn't get over was the light bleed on all 6. For the money I spent on it, I couldn't justify just having to deal with it.
Very happy with mine and even with the couple things that irk me, I am glad I got it! Great title for this thread, because I wondered the same thing.
LOVE IT! Nuff said!
I love mine and have had no reboots or freezes, but I do get some lag during hard gaming. Fingers crossed that can be fixed with updates or a new trinity/other kernel.