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Has anyone seen this? http://tinyurl.com/ybz2qfd
man that's crazy, although the 64's won't work with g1, I think its expandable capacity is only 32gb, but that's still big! Not sure of the class #'s on these bad boys, but I'm sure if there aren't any 6 or 10 class versions available yet it won't be long!
EDIT: nevermind, they're all 32's.....the 64gb has something to do with flash or whatever, IDK
32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
goldenarmZ said:
32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
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LOL way to kill the mans thread, jesus.
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LOL way to kill the mans thread, jesus.
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Lol it was dead way before he killed it my friend
lol hey I'd be set if I can get 32GB in MicroSDHC, and there's no whispers of THAT coming out as of yet
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lol hey I'd be set if I can get 32GB in MicroSDHC, and there's no whispers of THAT coming out as of yet
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Strange you should say that....
hxxp://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=5614&CategoryID=410&SubCategoryID=433
As I'm a newbie, I can't post external links.... but apparently CAN post links where "http" have been changed to "hxxp". I spotted this link earlier today, from Morgan Computers - a BIG hardware-clearance company in New Oxford Street, London. £51 for a 32Gig SDHC card.
" The 32GB SDHC memory card is German made, leading edge technology at its best! It also comes with a lifetime manufacturer warranty.
The 32GB SD Card offers high storage capacity with a write speed of 10MBytes/s and a read speed of 20MBytes/s. It is ideal for new generation digital camera and other applications with SDHC cards slots.
Compatible with All SDHC devices
32GB stores approx 1200 x 10MP Photos, 545 Hours of MP3
May be in Eco Friendly Bulk Packaging
*Please Note: SDHC cards will only work in devices that are compatible with the Higher SDHC Specification cards"
I'm going to invest in one of these for my (new!) Desire - my two G-1's will have to continue to make-do with 8 Gig Sandisk TF cards.
You let us all know how that works.
benmyers2941 said:
You let us all know how that works.
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I have two 32GB SDHC's, one is class 2, the other class 6.
The class 2 works but it's insanely slow and it consumes a lot of battery due to the extra hot time required for reads and writes.
The class 6 is extremely fast and doesn't cause noticeable battery drain.
So am I correct in assuming that the higher the class number, the faster the performance & lower the power usage?
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32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
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Meh. Until there's a PAE firmware released for the device. Like how a 32bit OS can only handle 4GB RAM until you enable PAE. (In windows, you can simply "turn it on", in linux you need a kernel with a PAE module enabled)
PAE, or Physical Address Extension, should allow for a 52 bit limit on physical memory but only supports a 48-bit virtual address space. 4 × 10245 bytes, or 4 Petabytes and 256 × 10244 bytes or 256 Terabytes, respectively. (What that means is, if the hardware doesn't support 52 bit addresses natively, then they highest capacity that can be reached via PAE is 256 Terabytes through virtualization.)
What does that mean for an android device? A PAE Kernel Module could be created to allow for addressing of more than 32 Gigabytes, how far past 32 Gigabytes? That I don't know. I would assume at least somewhere in the realm of 128-256 Gigabytes. I doubt there will ever be a MicroSD card at that capacity though. By the time we see affordable solid-state storage as small as MicroSD with a capacity over 64 Gigabytes it is unlikely that MicroSD will even still be around, and I doubt anyone will still be using the G1 anyway at that point. We're talking another 4 years or so, making the G1 an antique by technology standards.
tl;dr version: Once 64GB cards are affordable enough for it to be practical to put the time and effort into a firmware mod (kernel module,etc) for an android version of something resembling PAE, you can expect -someone- will figure out a way to enable 64GB usage in the G1.
I think we're gonna see faces like this: all the time, when it comes to electronics industry... I can still remember my first Intel 486 with a few MB HDD!
Man one of these would be nice!
For me 6gb is enough..
For music etc i have a mp3 player!
Here we are 2 years later, 256gb micro sd cards are just starting to appear on evilbay.
Also USB thumbdrives that can handle up to 512gb cards
I used my sandisk 64gb sdxc in my G1 with no issues !
KillaHurtz said:
I used my sandisk 64gb sdxc in my G1 with no issues !
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Why did you need so much space???
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I know its a microSD and the max for microSD is 32gb... however. I have fashioned a case to use a micro-sd converter. I do notice that once you are at 64gb it is a SDXC not SDHC standard. The connections are the same, but is our phone capable of addressing the memory past 32gb?
I would LOVE to drop a 128gb sd card into this bad boy!
I just remembered there was a thread based on pretty much the same question as you just asked, just head on over to the thread link I will post and read it up, but the answer is mainly on the page I will link it to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216416&highlight=64gb+micro&page=2
cheers and hit thanks if you want.
edit: the answer above is only if you plan on usind SDXC, but I remember certains users hooking up a mini drive or some sort to their device so yes our device can use more than 32GB at a cost though of design?... just not SDXC cards though.
using bigger cards
Dang well since sdxc is the only 64gb + sd cards.... darn!
A question for all you TFP owners, I just bought mine and am loving it with ViperMOD's root. My question is, does it accept 64 GB MicroSDXCs or SDXCs.
I'd love to put all my MLP Episodes as well as other movies on an SDXC, or would you recommend just using a portable HDD? (I have a 1 TB USB 3.0 (but it's backward compatible to 2.0)).
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A question for all you TFP owners, I just bought mine and am loving it with ViperMOD's root. My question is, does it accept 64 GB MicroSDXCs or SDXCs.
I'd love to put all my MLP Episodes as well as other movies on an SDXC, or would you recommend just using a portable HDD? (I have a 1 TB USB 3.0 (but it's backward compatible to 2.0)).
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Im using a 64gb SDXC full sized card on my keyboard and another 32gb sdhc microsd which is always in my tablet. If you do choose to use a SD card solution i recommend you using a card reader to transfer files as the computer to keyboard is really slow.
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Im using a 64gb SDXC full sized card on my keyboard and another 32gb sdhc microsd which is always in my tablet. If you do choose to use a SD card solution i recommend you using a card reader to transfer files as the computer to keyboard is really slow.
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you have just opened up brand new possibilities for me! how are you liking the speeds of the 64gb from dock to tablet? you get a thanks, kind sir/ma'am/beast?
The speeds are fine if your just watching a movie, but the time it takes to transfer files is hella slow. Which is why I recommended you to use a card reader.
Does the prime also accept 64GB microSD SDXC UHS-I?
I've got an 32gb micro sdxc in mine. I had to reformat it on my Ubuntu laptop using Gparted because FAT32 can't handle files over 4GB. First attempt, I formatted card as EXT3 but tablet wouldn't recognize it. Second attempt, I formatted card as NTFS, and it worked! Copied 9Gb mkv 1080p h.264 high profile movie and it plays! I also read on another board that an user confirmed that the new 128gb Lexar SDXC cards work in the dock's SD slot.
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Im using a 64gb SDXC full sized card on my keyboard and another 32gb sdhc microsd which is always in my tablet. If you do choose to use a SD card solution i recommend you using a card reader to transfer files as the computer to keyboard is really slow.
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you've clinched it for me, this is what im going to to. you get my thanks sir (literally)
"Does the prime also accept 64GB microSD SDXC UHS-I?"
I use a ScanDisk Mobile Ultra 64GB micro SDXC -I. It was already preformatted with efat.
Takes hours to fill it up but movies are played with no lag or anything.
Thanks guys, just ordered a Lexar 128 GB SD and 64 GB MicroSD XC
Please be aware. 1 week ago i received 2 of my ScanDisk Mobile Ultra 64GB microSDXC cards that i ordered on Amazon. One of them was defected, none of the devices i tried using it on couldn't detect it at all. Amazon refunded me the money for it within a day and i ordered another one instead.
Now i have a question. Is it better to leave the ExFAT format of the card to use it with Prime tablet or it is better to format it to NTFS? I wonder which would have better speed in result, while they both support large files. Also which allocation unit size is optimal to have the best read/write speeds?
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Please be aware. 1 week ago i received 2 of my ScanDisk Mobile Ultra 64GB microSDXC cards that i ordered on Amazon. One of them was defected, none of the devices i tried using it on couldn't detect it at all. Amazon refunded me the money for it within a day and i ordered another one instead.
Now i have a question. Is it better to leave the ExFAT format of the card to use it with Prime tablet or it is better to format it to NTFS? I wonder which would have better speed in result, while they both support large files. Also which allocation unit size is optimal to have the best read/write speeds?
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I don't think formatting affects the read/write speeds.
Look what i found:
http://blog.testfreaks.com/information/usb-flash-drive-comparison-part-2-fat32-vs-ntfs-vs-exfat/
"look at the SiSoft Sandra test, the best scores were achieved using ExFat, then FAT32 came in second and NTFS in last."
Just curious, anyone tried 64GB microSD cards or normal SD cards on prime?
There's a thread for the transformer, but didn't see any for prime so far.
Sylpheed said:
Just curious, anyone tried 64GB microSD cards or normal SD cards on prime?
There's a thread for the transformer, but didn't see any for prime so far.
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i use a Sandisk 64GB Class 6 Standard SD in my dock, works like a champ. cant afford a micro 64gb lol
very nice! thx for the info
I use a 64gb SanDisk Micro SDXC card in my Prime and currently have 28.8gb of the 59.46gb available free. I have music, videos and emulator roms on there.
I don't think I will be needing to put a card in the docks sd card slot yet but IF I ever do then another 64gb would be going in
I have a class 10 64GB in the Dock and a class 6 64GB MicroSD in the Prime
I had to reformat them to get them recognized and they have run fine since...
Scored the 64GB SanDisk MicroSD
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-mob...nded-capacity-microsdxc-1-card/226590490.html $110 shipped, got mine a little cheaper on sale.
I run a Pretec 64GB Class 16 SD card in my dock that I bought from either Newegg or Amazon for ~$75 and I am very pleased. I've had it for 5+ weeks now with no trouble and many transfers on/off of it. About 2 weeks ago I formatted it NTFS and I now get write speeds from 16-24 mb per second! I was a bit nervous when I purchased it as I had never really heard of the Pretec brand before but, I have absolutely no complaints. I watch my 720p .mkv movies from it and hardly ever have a stutter. In my Prime run an HP 32gb Class 10 MicroSD and it also functions very well. Both are highly recommended.
I use 2 Sandisk 64gb mobile ultra microsd's in both the tab and dock. I have them both formatted as extFAT due to the size. The tab reads all 59gb's of the micro on both cards.
Format 64GB
Hi,
I am new to the site and the 64gb XC1 class card. I purchased one and tried to reformat it to fat32 and was unable on several systems. I could not get it to be recognized on my phone or the prime. Any special direction on what needs to be done in order to get it accomplished? I updated windows 7 to the required KB fixes and still nothing. Even thou my HP had an XD slot, not sure if that is different than than the XC; which probably is.
Thanks, appreciate any response
Ray
rl0822 said:
Hi,
I am new to the site and the 64gb XC1 class card. I purchased one and tried to reformat it to fat32 and was unable on several systems. I could not get it to be recognized on my phone or the prime. Any special direction on what needs to be done in order to get it accomplished? I updated windows 7 to the required KB fixes and still nothing. Even thou my HP had an XD slot, not sure if that is different than than the XC; which probably is.
Thanks, appreciate any response
Ray
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Dude, read my post right above yours or if its against your beliefs to actually read before posting in forums, FAT info is on the internets.
rl0822 said:
Hi,
I am new to the site and the 64gb XC1 class card. I purchased one and tried to reformat it to fat32 and was unable on several systems. I could not get it to be recognized on my phone or the prime. Any special direction on what needs to be done in order to get it accomplished? I updated windows 7 to the required KB fixes and still nothing. Even thou my HP had an XD slot, not sure if that is different than than the XC; which probably is.
Thanks, appreciate any response
Ray
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Format exFAT or NTFS. Fat32 does not support that size of drive and will also limit you to a maximum single file size of 4gb. Many HD movies can exceed this easily.
I have a 64GB sandisk, works great
Is this card compatible with the Asus Transformer Prime?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
It is rated UHS-I, and I remember a friend of mine told me it's not advisable to use UHS cards on non-UHS devices! And I have not idea if the TF Prime is one..
If the above isn't compatible, how about this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFT40G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Btw, for those interested, as you can, there is a huge price reduction for the 64 GB Micro SD Cards...
Cheers
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Is this card compatible with the Asus Transformer Prime?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
It is rated UHS-I, and I remember a friend of mine told me it's not advisable to use UHS cards on non-UHS devices! And I have not idea if the TF Prime is one..
If the above isn't compatible, how about this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LFT40G/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
Btw, for those interested, as you can, there is a huge price reduction for the 64 GB Micro SD Cards...
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If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
£45 here: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...XC-UHS-I-Card-64-GB-with-Adapter/Product.html
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If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
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Thanks.. Yes that's what they say..but my friend suggested not to use it? :-( so I was a bit confused...
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If you google "UHS-1 compatibility" your first hit says:
An SDXC UHS-I card will work in any SDXC compatible device at lower speeds, but to take advantage of the UHS-I speed, a UHS-I compatible device is essential.
I already ordered one 64gb and two 32gbs!
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Hi! I was interested in uhs-i cards to use them with data2sd. How did those cards perform? Is our Prime compatible with uhs-i or not?
Thanks!
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I have the card posted in the first link. It's 64 GB and UHS-I. Got it about a year ago when I first got my prime. I was a little worried, but had other devices that could use it instead...so I figured why not. It works fine for me and has been working to this day.
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I have really done any performance testing. But I haven't noticed any problems. It may or may not be worth the extra money for speed, but I was interested more in the capacity anyway.
Well, I was specifically interested in performance with expensive Extreme Pro cards.
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Well, I was specifically interested in performance with expensive Extreme Pro cards.
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Your question is slightly different than the OP. He was just asking if the cards worked. I was replying to his post. Because I noticed your post afterwards, I added some notes that I don't know. I also don't have an Extreme Pro card, which you explicitly didn't mention in your first post Also,
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Hi! I was interested in uhs-i cards to use them with data2sd. How did those cards perform? Is our Prime compatible with uhs-i or not?
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Asks two questions...if the tablet is compatible AND how they perform. I answered the second question. And the performance question did not explicitly state anything about Extreme Pro cards. The expectations that someone would know you meant that without explicitly stating so, in a thread unrelated to the topic is misleading at best. So...if you are being so specific AND asking a(t least one) question technically separate from the OP, another thread is probably in order.
Yes, my mistake. I came here thinking UHS-I were the same as Extreme Pro. Now I know they are not.
No worries. I know that it's a little screwy how each company indicates speeds and model names for their (micro) SD cards. For Sandisk, the Extreme Pro, Extreme, and Ultra cards are all UHS-I, I believe. If I recall correctly, the speeds Sandisk claims are 95MB/s, 45MB/s, and 35MB/s, respectively.
Note, if the device's SD card reader doesn't support a speed that high, then you will never get the speed that the card is capable of. Rather, you would only get the maximum speed of the device. I'm not exactly sure how fast the TF201's speed is...but I'm sure it's documented somewhere (sorry, I'm too lazy to find it at the moment).
I finally had some time to get to the point about performance. Hopefully, this will help you a bit.
TF201 - AndroWook v2.2
SD - Sandisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC UHS-I
App - A1 SD Bench
Card benchmark:
Read: 316.46MB/s (not long test)
Write: 9.47MB/s (not long test)
Read: 28.19MB/s (long test)
Write: 10.08MB/s (long test)
Internal memory benchmark:
Read: 350.91MB/s (not long test)
Write: 12.32MB/s (not long test)
Read: 26.99MB/s (long test)
Write: 14.29MB/s (long test)
RAM benchmark:
RAM copy: 726.15MB/s (not long test)
RAM copy: 805.04MB/s (long test)
It is theoretically possible to have better SD card speeds (with Extreme and Extreme Pro) if the hardware supports it. But if not, I might have already hit the maximum and be limited by it. Not sure either way. But hope the speed readings help!
Ultra is a great price and still fast. The two Extreme cards tend to be more geared towards video or high-speed photography - the Extreme Pro is quite expensive comparatively, and I would only recommend it if you really, really need it for your device. It will only save you milliseconds for most transfers...maybe seconds if you are copying/writing literally the entire card at one time. Of course, as long as a device supports these speeds, you will also benefit somewhat from read/write transfers to your computer/tablet/etc.
Well, I wanted to test data2sd on a fast microSD card because I want to get a fluid device. It gets freezed many times when working with it (in example, doing something while updating apps from the play store), and I read elsewhere it was caused by the very slow internal memory. So I suppose the faster the microSD I use, the faster the device will be.
It works, I have AndroWook 2.3 now and is running smoothly, far better than the internal sd . I'm running Data2SD with a 32GB Sandisk Ultra SD Card.
There are some discussions about the speed of different sd cards, It seems it has to do with random access speed.
What manufacturers state on their devices are secuencial access speeds.
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