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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.
I'm using mx video player and it does a decent job on 720p and 1080p
Playback with soft decoding.
What Have u guys found? Can u recommend anything better?
Yhanks
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I'm using mx video player and it does a decent job on 720p and 1080p
Playback with soft decoding.
What Have u guys found? Can u recommend anything better?
Yhanks
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Try BSPlayer (free on the market).
I've only found 1 video so far that it refused to play.
BSPlayer has played everything I've thrown at it.
i played a 16gig bluetooth rip of the matrix last night on my tab over my home network on my TV. it was glorious. this is why i bought this tablet
I use MX Player but still trying to find a player that will play 10bit 720p files correctly
Dice Player worked for me for 720 and 1080
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I use MX Player but still trying to find a player that will play 10bit 720p files correctly
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No luck with MoboPlayer?
dice player worked for me. Loaded ironman 2 1080p into my SD card, and played flawlessly. Dice is only a HW player though so when I play my avi files, sometimes I usually need to use MX player.
What is the quality of AVI videos when you play it? I had problem with quality on original Transformer - a strange grid of dots all over the movie in most players (in one there was no grid but the movie looked like i had 100 colours at most).
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Nope ill try again I was testing a ton of video players the other night lol
Just played three of my 720p high profile MKV movies using BS Player with no problems at all. My Xoom cannot play these. Very happy about this and was one of my biggest gripes about Xoom/Tegra 2.
I downloaded a 14gig MKV (the movie was 300) and played perfect on the tab with the file local on its HD. Streaming.. I need more bandwith for that
Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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Need more information. MKV is a container codec, not a video or audio codec. What is the video and audio codec, and is it using something like 10bit color?
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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I've seen that happen on Epic Touch with most mkv format videos.
Try RockPlayer.
Yeah I was also having problems with certain video files. A couple of .m4v's that I tried to put on my phone would crash the video app if I put in or pulled out my headphones while the video was playing. Seems to be isolated to particular file types/codecs.
what is the res of the video you are trying to watch. what is the actual video codec on it and are there subtitles?
You could try VLC for android:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDMsIm9yZy52aWRlb2xhbi52bGMuYmV0YXY3bmVvbiJd
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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Try something for me , connect phone to your PC thro USB , and then try playing video on your phone , report results ?
I'm not sure how to see what is the actual video and audio codec, how do i check it?
The video files are mkv 720p blu ray rips.
I tried connected my phone to my pc via usb and tried playing video like you said and i couldnt really see a difference.
I think we need to wait for the video player app developers to produce extensions that work with or provide true hardware acceleration for our new hardware, the best player I've found right now for the GS3 is BSplayer lite.
Ironically BSplayer gave me the worst performance on the GS2.
anyway try BSplayer lite on your GS3.
720p bluray rips will kill most portable devices they are MUCH higher bitrate than a standard 720p movie. you need to downsize them if you want to play them smothly
Try MXplayer with their ARM7 codec pack.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=mxplayer&c=apps
I just converted a bluray movie down to 1280x536 with Handbrake and it plays like butter.
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Okay so I didn't really think I would have this problem with this phone. I put a mkv video on my phone and I went to go watch it but it stutters I'm not sure how to explain it but it's really choppy. It doesn't complete freeze though. I was using this in the stock video player. This was because I wanted to try pop up play. So I was bummed that I couldn't use the stock player which is the only one that does pop up play. So I tried mx player but it also has the same problem playing back the video. Wth can the s3 not handle mkv videos? I didn't have this problem on my note. Does anybody else have this also? Is there a fix or something? The screen is beautiful but it's not smooth playback its too choppy.
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I also experienced problems with the 720p .mkv files I ripped my blurays to for portable use - but moreso with sound being out of sync with the video. I had the same problem with my GS2 when I upgraded to 4.0. I re-ripped my whole collection using the same compression rate into .mp4 and they all play flawlessly now. Anything I have that is .mkv simply doesn't play nice on both my GS2 and GS3 with 4.0.
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I also experienced problems with the 720p .mkv files I ripped my blurays to for portable use - but moreso with sound being out of sync with the video. I had the same problem with my GS2 when I upgraded to 4.0. I re-ripped my whole collection using the same compression rate into .mp4 and they all play flawlessly now. Anything I have that is .mkv simply doesn't play nice on both my GS2 and GS3 with 4.0.
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MKV is not a codec...it's just a container format like AVI.
From my experiance/experimenting biggest culprit is always "stagefright" being enabled , screws up hardware decoding on many levels. On my ATT GS3 , it was enabled by default, i could not play my 720p 60fps music videos , i got "Blade Buddy" it lets you mess with some system settings easily (however i dont know witch setting specifically triggered it), after messing with it and doing soft reboot , my GS3 now performs as it should , can play even higher then 720p , latest one i tried was 1440x810 @ 60fps High profile H264 , all smooth and nice , [email protected] was to much though , all common <=30fps videos play problem free.
In Blade Buddy under Basic settings i toggled off "Compatibility Mode"
Under Advanced settings i toggled off stagefright , then hitting menu button clicking apply , and selecting soft reboot.
There must be something wrong with your setup or codecs or i dont know what because i have a NAS and i STREAM 720p blu-ray rips of about 5gbs a movie off my HDD attached to my router, i stream them and get 0 lag, even when i advance the movie, it takes 1/4 of a second to buffer and play the movie, and again i get 0 lag. i use BS player Lite
so its not the phone, trust me
I have played mkv videos and I have no problem ... the video format is hd 720 mp4
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So it seems that some people can play 720 blu ray rips just fine with no problem while others can't and need to change the format. I find this rather odd. I haven't tried streaming these videos but ill try and report back but I think it would be worse because if it can't handle playing from the device the added pressure of streaming would make it worse. Somebody mentioned audio being out of sync, I don't have that problem at all. And it's not like the video is severely laggy its like it plays but it stutters as it goes to the next frame its so hard to explain ill see if I can record it and show you guys.
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for a 720p bluray rip/hd rip movie, i still run it through handbrake to get the file size down. i set res to 1280xtakewhatevericanget from the original source. output as mp4 in that case (still h.264). i tend to crank the audio up a bit too, since it helps on airplanes or whatever with movie dialogue.
i haven't really tried dragging over a full on 4+gb 720p blu ray rip .mkv file...then again mtp sucks ass, so i'll do anything i can to get file size down.
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for a 720p bluray rip/hd rip movie, i still run it through handbrake to get the file size down. i set res to 1280xtakewhatevericanget from the original source. output as mp4 in that case (still h.264). i tend to crank the audio up a bit too, since it helps on airplanes or whatever with movie dialogue.
i haven't really tried dragging over a full on 4+gb 720p blu ray rip .mkv file...then again mtp sucks ass, so i'll do anything i can to get file size down.
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Fat32 maxes out with 2GB files.
it's not the mkv that's causing it's issue, it's what's inside the mkv that's causing the problems. not just codec but bitrate and other small things could matter. Also, if it's software and not hardware like the ipad, even if meets the criteria hardware wise, it can cause an issue.
I bought the Nexus 10 mainly for movie playback, I have downloaded several 720p mkv files and 1080p mkv files. The 720p mkv works fine in MX Player, but 1080p mkv does not work at all. (not only the sound but also the video), Ive also tried VLC player , BS player, Dice player, nothing works.
Its weird because Ive seen several clips on youtube where 1080p mkv files do work, but I dont understand how.
Can someone please help me???
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I bought the Nexus 10 mainly for movie playback, I have downloaded several 720p mkv files and 1080p mkv files. The 720p mkv works fine in MX Player, but 1080p mkv does not work at all. (not only the sound but also the video), Ive also tried VLC player , BS player, Dice player, nothing works.
Its weird because Ive seen several clips on youtube where 1080p mkv files do work, but I dont understand how.
Can someone please help me???
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MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
I don't know how relevant this is but...
I got "The Tunnel" free with uTorrent awhile back. Legally. I went to watch it on my older, last-gen A500 (720p mkv file) on MX Player. Didn't work with H/W at all. S/W, would play video and audio. Audio'd desync around 1 minute in with video slowing down. 2 1/2-4 minutes in, audio dies permanently. Didn't work through the HDMI or on-board screen. Could it be similar causes?
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MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
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Doesnt work.
lKBZl said:
MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
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I don't know how relevant this is but...
I got "The Tunnel" free with uTorrent awhile back. Legally. I went to watch it on my older, last-gen A500 (720p mkv file) on MX Player. Didn't work with H/W at all. S/W, would play video and audio. Audio'd desync around 1 minute in with video slowing down. 2 1/2-4 minutes in, audio dies permanently. Didn't work through the HDMI or on-board screen. Could it be similar causes?
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Doesnt work.
Can only someone who owns a Nexus 10 reply.
Use dice player with the custom DTS plugin (guessing that's why its trying to force software playback). Its called libffmpeg.so - do a Google search for it, put it in root, then activate it in the settings menu in dice player. Should play in HW mode. No matter what peeps say, I keep using dice player (can stream over ftp shares!)
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Use dice player with the custom DTS plugin (guessing that's why its trying to force software playback). Its called libffmpeg.so - do a Google search for it, put it in root, then activate it in the settings menu in dice player. Should play in HW mode.
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Isnt DTS only for sound? the problem is also the video, there is no playback at all, so are you sure it will work? what is "put it in root" ???
Never try a 1080p mkv
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Never try a 1080p mkv
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why?
The mkv is made of two or more parts: the video, and the audio(sometimes multiple streams). If the audio is unsupported by the hw decoder, it will try to play via software (slower). Root directory /sdcard/
I recently started using dice player because it plays my mkv videos 1080p with dts sound.
Default settings used and no custom codecs.
Mxplayer doesnt support dts audio due to some licence issue otherwise I prefer Mxplayer
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I recently started using dice player because it plays my mkv videos 1080p with dts sound.
Default settings used and no custom codecs.
Mxplayer doesnt support dts audio due to some licence issue otherwise I prefer Mxplayer
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You did that with a Nexus 10?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254
Did you try mxplayer with the custom codec from this thread? 1080p mkvs work for me with this. Using h/w+ decoder , s/w audio decode and 4.0 compatibility mode in the settings.
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BS Player works fine for me on my Nexus 10. Have you ticked the "Use alternate HW decoding mode" under playback preferences? Sometimes when I do get the odd 1080p MKV file not working with this, I swap it to software decoding which then works fine.
Dude, HW+ and Software Audio Decoding in MX Player does the Trick... I even created a 2560x1600 h.264 mkv video (25fps) with high preset, and it works smoothly - however, you must have the exact pixel count. If the Nexus 10 has to do rescaling, e.g. because of the navbar, you will get horrible stuttering. Nevertheless, this is pretty impressive. It is all about proper usage.
Edit: 1080p can be scaled up without stuttering, of course.
i don't know what it is you're doing wrong, but MX Player and BSPlayer both play 1080p perfectly fine as long as they're in HW decoding mode. I prefer MX Player since BS is having issues with A/V sync when playing a lot of the smaller 720p videos i have tried. make sure to enable HW+ decoding in MX Player, add the custom DTS codec for the current version and get some proper 1080p mkv files and it will play pretty much anything perfectly.
What is the bitrate of your mkv?
I encoded the video using Handbrake at High Profile (CRF20), which produced 19mb/s in average, with peaks at up to 70mb/s.
My source file was "Redwood National Park" by Jacob+Katie Schwarz (you can find it on YouTube). I avoided letterbox with a combination of cropping and resizing.
Keep in mind that you have to match the native resolution if you want to enjoy insane video playback like this without stuttering. If you create a 2560x1604 file for example, you end up seeing one frame every three seconds...
I'm checking to see if the snapdragon 800 / adreno 330 at the heart of the xperia Z ultra can playback mkv bluray rips made using makemkv (free while in beta, aka forever) from makemkv.com. (caution resulting file can be 15-30GB)
I'd like to hear if anyone has tried it, either off a SNB (windows) share on a 801.11 N or AC wireless network or right from the microsd card.
The best apps to try for playback are:
bsplayer
Archos Video player (with codec add-on for sound)
VLC nightlys (not available in the play store, google for the apk)
I'm considering getting this phone or another based on the snapdragon 800 and want to know if it can flawlessly playback these files and for bonus points if anyone has successfully been able to output the playback over MHL/HDMI cable to a larger 1080p display.
Thanks!
i play my 1080p Movie mp4 rips and they perform great
tho the video app cant play avi video formats sadly
I use 'dice player' and it works well for mkv file even streaming.
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i play my 1080p Movie mp4 rips and they perform great
tho the video app cant play avi video formats sadly
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I'm guessing these are re-compressed 1080p movies. I want to know if the phone can handle playback of the actual video streams on the bluray itself. MakeMKV rips the actual video streams and puts them all in a mkv container. The resulting file is often 20-30GB, not the 5-10GB of the 1080p files I'm guessing you tried. BTW, if you try the apps I listed above (diceplayer too as was recommended) you will have no trouble playing back those old AVI files.
720p 10bits mkv ( vlc/mx player) flawless
1080p 10bits mkv( vlc/mx player) flawless
Dvd rip. Iso ( vlc/mx player / base player) vieuweble
Basic 8 gig blouray rip ( vlc / mx / base) lag / crash wen skipping
( alle files alsof played trough a nas (lan)
Will try non compressed. Blouray. Tomorrow
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720p 10bits mkv ( vlc/mx player) flawless
1080p 10bits mkv( vlc/mx player) flawless
Dvd rip. Iso ( vlc/mx player / base player) vieuweble
Basic 8 gig blouray rip ( vlc / mx / base) lag / crash wen skipping
( alle files alsof played trough a nas (lan)
Will try non compressed. Blouray. Tomorrow
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Great testing, looking forward to your results tonight! Is your link speed on wireless close to 300Mbit?
Also, try Archos (google: archos video player apk and Archos Video All Codecs Plugin) and bsplayer are good ones to try.
Great to hear about 10bit 1080p anime releases too!
Thanks a bunch!
Sorry forum the late replay hadden lot of work @ one's
Basic only blourays are a no go unless. U stream. Trough vlc
Normal Dvd,s work as long as u dont skip
My wireless is 300 also.
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