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Hello. I've seen it mentioned, and wouldn't have believed it if I didn't experience it. FYI, this isn't a *****ing thread, I am just curios WHY 3G speeds on the 3VO are so much slower than what I had from the OG Evo. Is this something that will, or even CAN be addressed by a radio update?
Thanks for the input!
From my personal experience, in the same location I have gone from speeds of 300kbps to a meg a second, down to >100kbps with a top of 300kbps. I tried the "Increase 3G speed trick," and still in the same speed range.
UPDATE: I had Sprint reprovision my device, and was told to do a battery pull, turn on and let the system settle, and voila. Still pulling 300kpbs tho.
If anything, this can be fixed through a radio update. Just give it time. I know it is unfortunate. Have you bothered with the MSL tweak that is in the development section?
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If anything, this can be fixed through a radio update. Just give it time. I know it is unfortunate. Have you bothered with the MSL tweak that is in the development section?
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Yes, didn't see any difference unfortunately. I just hope it is software limitations and not hardware... I cant imagine the Evo and 3Vo have that much of a different set up?
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Yes, didn't see any difference unfortunately. I just hope it is software limitations and not hardware... I cant imagine the Evo and 3Vo have that much of a different set up?
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I'm going to say it has to be radio related. Time will tell I suppose. I am sorry that I was not much help.
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My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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EvoSideHustlAZ said:
My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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Well snap, that is a first from what I have read. What type of speeds do you get on the 3vo now? Done the MSL 0's trick?
LOL'ed at your sig BTW.
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My 3g is faster with 3vo than my ogEvo
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My 3G speeds are a little bit faster, but they still suck. Where I live, my speeds are abysmal. This applies with any Sprint phone. I remember when my speeds rocked, but that was at the beginning of the release of the Evo 4G. It just degraded throughout time.
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DDiaz007 said:
My 3G speeds are a little bit faster, but they still suck. Where I live, my speeds are abysmal. This applies with any Sprint phone. I remember when my speeds rocked, but that was at the beginning of the release of the Evo 4G. It just degraded throughout time.
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Yeah, I live in the sticks, so I feel ya... lol
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Yeah, I live in the sticks, so I feel ya... lol
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It truly does suck. Well when I'm not near my WiFi.
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I thought it was just my 3D at first, but now I see that every sprint phone my family has have been extremely slow. My sister called me yesterday asking how to turn on the 3g on her Samsung, but sadly it was already on. Sprint can't keep up with all the new subscribers.
3G on Sprint compared to Verizon sucks. I called sprint and told them about it. I suggest that others do the same. I'd didn't ***** at them I just told them I have a Xoom and a EVO3D and the Xoom 3G absolutely blows away Sprint. I told them its embarrassment. Unlimited data? Ya at 56k they can give you all the unlimited data they want.
Mine have increased from OG EVO to this without the msl trick. Weird.
Edit: update on speeds. Tested three times, all above 1.40 mbps. Never got that on og evo.
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Funny thing, I just saw sprint's new commercial about unlimited data. They rank on verizon and att for their tiered data, then they rank on tmobile for thier throttling data after 5gb, and they finally they say how fast their data is! I laughed my ass off. I bet tmobile's throttled data is faster that my 3G data with full bars. I'm not in a 4G area so I can't comment on that, I'm sure it's fast but sprint's 3G data in my area is super slow during peak hours. I average 100kbs peak, about 700kbs to 1mb super early in the morning or super late in the evening. Basically without a wifi connection its unusable during peak hours.
no difference between the evo and 3d for me same old 56k **** speeds.
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Funny thing, I just saw sprint's new commercial about unlimited data. They rank on verizon and att for their tiered data, then they rank on tmobile for thier throttling data after 5gb, and they finally they say how fast their data is! I laughed my ass off. I bet tmobile's throttled data is faster that my 3G data with full bars. I'm not in a 4G area so I can't comment on that, I'm sure it's fast but sprint's 3G data in my area is super slow during peak hours. I average 100kbs peak, about 700kbs to 1mb super early in the morning or super late in the evening. Basically without a wifi connection its unusable during peak hours.
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Thats what I told the lady from sprint was that if you don't have a WiFi connection then data was pretty much useless. What got me was I have all my music on the Google cloud. So I sync my Xooms bluetooth with my car. On the way to work it played perfect never skipped and I could change tracks without issue. So I thought well let me try it with my EVO. Well what a disaster it wouldn't play a single track let alone change tracks. Completely worthless without WiFi.
Odd that some see no difference, and some better and some worse... I put the OG Evo back on to make sure, and I'm getting approximately 3 times the network speed.
Does anyone know why this could be? I see fewer bars... But I didn't think to play with open signal maps. Might have to tinker with that when I get off.
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It truly does suck. Well when I'm not near my WiFi.
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I work outside, so no wifi for me.
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For the ones that have good data on OG EVO, but not on the 3D, a reprovision of the phone should help you out. If you have bad speeds on both devices then reprovisioning won't do anything as you're probably in a bad reception area.
Just left tmobile for sprint and I can definitely say my throttled data was faster than sprints 3G.
It's beyond annoying. I live in Orlando, and somehow I find myself constantly roaming in high tourism areas. Actually, I'm roaming the minute I go into my bedroom.
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Mine just picked up speed today! The sprint store tech did a speedtest and it was in the 100kb range. He reprovisioned the phone to reactivate on the network nd my speeds are now as good or better than original evo 500kb average. I dont think a radio update would do much good. Sprint needs to hop on the Rev B evdo or start rolling out those dual 3g/4g towers sooner than expected! They are dropping all these hot phones w/out expanding the network. Starting to sound like att.
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Bought my wife the EvO 3d the other day, up from a HERO CDMA. Noticing that without exception the signal on the 3d is dramatically worse than the hero was. The 3d is bone stock. Any suggestions?
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this is a known issue htc needs to address. the evo 3d generally has a worse signal than other phones since the antennae is at the bottom (where u hold it). if u cant deal with it you might wanna get a different phone. im considering it
Have you updated your prl? Sprint pushed one that was super slow but fixed it. My 3d gets better coverage than any other phone I've owned. Hell I tether to my wifes nexus s 4g so she can speed up. Your prl should start with a 2 I think.
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yeah, she's on the most recent prl, must be the antennae problem, but signal is just rotten on this phone.
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I had this issue for a while but I am running 11115 prl and I have notice the difference... I am rooted and running Virus infected rom and I am happy for now... you could try rooting it and trying difference prl or roms it may make a difference...
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this is a known issue htc needs to address. the evo 3d generally has a worse signal than other phones since the antennae is at the bottom (where u hold it). if u cant deal with it you might wanna get a different phone. im considering it
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Really? That's a bit of bad news for me.
I'd be very interested to hear from any UK Evo owners regarding the phone signal, is it as much of a problem with GSM too?
Why should we get a sprint lte phone (next cycle) , when they are two years out from being turned on. Yes I know they are testing in some town with 10 residents (which none of them are probably sprint customers). I'm still waiting for 4G.
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Why should we get a sprint lte phone (next cycle) , when they are two years out from being turned on. Yes I know they are testing in some town with 10 residents (which none of them are probably sprint customers). I'm still waiting for 4G.
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Maybe a better question...how about u just don't get it until u get 4G?
Sorry...don't wanna sound like a sh*ta** but yea...lol
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Better hardware overall and all phones offerings are going to be 4G. So... Upgrade your phone or don't.
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Personally I'm just buying a phone because I like it. I've had both evo 4g EVO 3d and both epics and am.still without 4g. I have got this far without its just a bonus to me if I ever do recieve lte. It's still the same price and my WiFi at home is better than 4g anyway. If you have stuck around this long no reason to jump ship now your halfway through the changeover
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i work from home and am on wifi like 95% of my time, i do go to wimax areas every once in a while but but i can live without that. im buying it because 4.3" is too small for me lol
I don't use 4G as it is now so I could care less
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It's hardware is far superior to any phone that is out or will be out for a while.
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It's hardware is far superior to any phone that is out or will be out for a while.
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Agreed and one of the reasons I got it. Would just like to be on the upside of phone tech for once. Never thought I would be jealous of AT & T.
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Agreed and one of the reasons I got it. Would just like to be on the upside of phone tech for once. Never thought I would be jealous of AT & T.
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Lol I may end up getting it when I am outta contract. Kinda wanna see what people think of it.. I don't care for the LTE or 4G just the specs are pretty nice no 3D which makes me happy just want my 8MP back so I can play with CM and other sense less builds.
The only reason I will eventually move to LTE (I'm already currently in a WiMAX area) is for the improved speeds and the lower frequencies. Lower frequency radio waves will better penetrate thick walls (like concrete) and will reduce how much battery it uses. Therefore, LTE is overall more stable than WiMAX technology.
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Nobody is forcing you to stay with Sprint. If you want 4g LTE now, switch to Verizon.
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Nobody is forcing you to stay with Sprint. If you want 4g LTE now, switch to Verizon.
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Lol he already bought one Anyway's think he is just asking a general question about what people think about it...
Verizon plans and phones are over priced Good service and everything else..
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The only reason I will eventually move to LTE (I'm already currently in a WiMAX area) is for the improved speeds and the lower frequencies. Lower frequency radio waves will better penetrate thick walls (like concrete) and will reduce how much battery it uses. Therefore, LTE is overall more stable than WiMAX technology.
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The big issue I see is a big price jump once lte is turned on. There is some serious traffic control that lte has that wimax doesn't. When they can truly see what being used and the rate of consumption, bye bye unlimited.
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The big issue I see is a big price jump once lte is turned on. There is some serious traffic control that lte has that wimax doesn't. When they can truly see what being used and the rate of consumption, bye bye unlimited.
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though I do think there will be a day when unlimited will be no more, i don't think it will be anytime soon, for 2 reason, 1 the premium data fee ($10) we all pay according to dan hasse is the reason we don't have tier data plans already, so if they switched they can't charge that anymore and 2 sprint uses it too much to advertise with, and is a reason so many of the customers are staying... if they lose that they will lose A LOT of customers...
i never use 4g and i can get it almost all most all the time.. i use 3g cause its fast enough for me.. when i have used 4g in the past it just drains my battery to quick.. its crazy cause some people would love to get 4g and i have it and could care less.. lol i wish i could give it away!!!! to someone that would use it.. u kno..
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i never use 4g and i can get it almost all most all the time.. i use 3g cause its fast enough for me.. when i have used 4g in the past it just drains my battery to quick.. its crazy cause some people would love to get 4g and i have it and could care less.. lol i wish i could give it away!!!! to someone that would use it.. u kno..
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My town doesnt have any 4g towers. What kind off BS is that? Hah
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My town doesnt have any 4g towers. What kind off BS is that? Hah
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I only get to use it if I go to Atlanta or I go up north to Michigan
I am in no hurry to upgrade. I live in a small city about an hour north of Atlanta. My little city of 30k has WiMax and is set to get LTE the first round, but I get 4G inside my apartment and downtown. While I don't get LTE speeds, I do get around 7-8mb. And I'm okay with that till the next round of LTE phones come out. WiMax isn't going anywhere anytime soon for those of us that have it.
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point is there will always be a better fone :-/
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I only get to use it if I go to Atlanta or I go up north to Michigan
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I'm sorry that's the case. As a frequent traveler I am in almost always in Wimax coverage and have been very satisfied for the most part. However, thinking I'm hot s*?t pulling down 10mgbs on my couch always gets me into trouble as my buddy ( who is smartphone illiterate) pulls down 30 on his razr max. Yea at those speeds its basically just a pi$$ingcontest, but with almost 24 months on the competition you have to feel dissapointed in the way Wimax was.handled.
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I really wanted to like the phone, but I ran into two issues.
a) my audio over bluetooth was terrible. Compared to the Photon that I was coming from, the calls were very choppy.
b) Reception... I spontaneously went to roaming mode in my office, where I have NEVER had reception issues. the same thing repeated itself on the freeway where Sprint has always had good coverage.
I'm sure it was probably just my handset, but with the SGS3 coming soon and my Photon still kicking like a champ, I took it back today, after just one day of use.
good luck everyone.
This reminds me that I've experienced the roaming issue. I have airave hooked up, so I thought it might have something to do with that; even though my NS4G and GS2 were fine in the same config.
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Have fun, I think is funny cause this phone got better radios then my galaxy nexus sprint did, but I guess is not for everyone
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Have fun, I think is funny cause this phone got better radios then my galaxy nexus sprint did, but I guess is not for everyone
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Will you quit buying phones....
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Will you quit buying phones....
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For now yes
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First issues and people are frantically returning there phones. The newer phones gnex EVO LTE, are gonna probably have more issues because of the new network vision rollout. Once that network is up and running, I'm certain it will succeed
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Going from a photon to a New EVO you would see a difference in coverage. The photon is awesome in the RF aspect.
I was able to compare my EVO LTE to an Epic yesterday in a fringe area. It seemed to be about the same.
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Going from a photon to a New EVO you would see a difference in coverage. The photon is awesome in the RF aspect.
I was able to compare my EVO LTE to an Epic yesterday in a fringe area. It seemed to be about the same.
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My OG EVO had far better reception than my LTE Evo does. I roam at home where I didnt on my OG EVO
Edit: Not returning it though
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My OG EVO had far better reception than my LTE Evo does. I roam at home where I didnt on my OG EVO
Edit: Not returning it though
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I have acce ss to, at any given time, the OG Evo 4g, the Evo 3d, the Evo Shift, the ET4g, and now, the Evo 4g LTE. If I am having problems getting a signal somewhere, and absolutely NEED a signal, for some reason it's the Evo3d that never fails. I don't know what it is in the internals that causes it, but it's definitely true.
i think it would be pretty hard to make a decision to return a phone after one day.. but hey if you dont like it you dont like it..
You're generally right... However, going into roaming, in areas that I've used most phones in without incident, shows a clear issue that I won't risk dealing with.
I've already resigned to dealing with poor data speeds due to Sprint's network... Good calling should be a must for all phones.
Should I have expected the calling issues to go away by themselves?
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Ive been reading the threads and i see the fix is to cycle airplane mode. But i haven't seen any explaining why. Ive noticed that if you travel to an area without ehrpd(the hand-off from evdo to lte) itll drop you to evdo rev a. But wont put you back to ehrpd unless you either restart the phone, cycle airplane mode, or switch cdma/lte to cdma only and back to cdma/lte. If this has been explained, i apologize but i can't find it
So Sprint/HTC needs to fix the hand off back to ehrpd when you get back to an ehrpd area. Chop chop
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So Sprint/HTC needs to fix the hand off back to ehrpd when you get back to an ehrpd area. Chop chop
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Yep!!!!
Chop Chop. Anytime now.
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Yep!!!!
Chop Chop. Anytime now.
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What's LTE? sh.it, whats WiMax for that matter? >.> bought Evo OG on release, online chat rep said WiMax was available in my zipcode... Never happened... lol. I live in south Miami-Dade county... still have yet to get on anything but 3G with any phone hah...
not really funny though
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We've been talking about this in several threads and its across many forums. The problem has been known since the phone was in Sprint's lab before launch. They rushed it out so OG Evo people would lock back in to 2 yr contracts. They tried to fix it twice via OTA firmware but still failed. Sprint is in denial there is a problem and so is HTC. You come to your own conclusion if it will get fixed or not.
It's working much better in the latest cm10 builds. Running the 10/25 build from deck. I've been holding lte almost exclusively. And have it places even toggling it before wouldn't get me. The handoff can sometimes take a minute, but it's on lte so much in comparison to before it hasn't been an issue.
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It's working much better in the latest cm10 builds. Running the 10/25 build from deck. I've been holding lte almost exclusively. And have it places even toggling it before wouldn't get me. The handoff can sometimes take a minute, but it's on lte so much in comparison to before it hasn't been an issue.
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Did deck change something to address this issue?
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Did deck change something to address this issue?
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Excellent question! Any way to find out?
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Excellent question! Any way to find out?
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Did he rewrite the firmware or add in some background forced scan?
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I've got no idea what the change is, but it's night and day difference between it and the sense roms.
My last test will be tomorrow at work, I've been off. But iPhone and s3 get lte and I've never been able to even with toggling and setting to lte only.
It's been pretty solid to, only real downfall is the camera isn't as full featured.
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I've got no idea what the change is, but it's night and day difference between it and the sense roms.
My last test will be tomorrow at work, I've been off. But iPhone and s3 get lte and I've never been able to even with toggling and setting to lte only.
It's been pretty solid to, only real downfall is the camera isn't as full featured.
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So if you were to flash a sense rom right now, your lte issues will return as well? Is there anyway you can do a quick nandroid then flash a sense rom to see if it goes back to having the same issues? I am very curious as to what the results would be. I would do it myself but I don't have lte where I am right now.
So I'm at work now, and I'm still not picking up any lte inside. But I am when I go outside.
And I picked up and held strong lte at my girlfriends place the other day, which has never happened.
So it seems it is better, but still not 100%. As an iphone or s3 would have lte in my building.
If I go back to a sense rom I cant hold onto an lte signal at her place at all. Even when set to lte only. That part i can reproduce.
At least seems to confirm software issues.
pretty frustrating having to do the airplane mode trick to get 4g back (even then it doesnt work all the time), especially since when 4g is working it's so nice to FINALLY have acceptable data speeds from Sprint.
kind of feel helpless here with this phone, I haven't gone to a sprint store to complain yet, but it's not like I can reproduce the 4g connection issue it just happens.
I think they have fixed some it on the stock rom.
I left for the GS3 about a month or two into owning my EVO LTE. My main gripe was getting stuck on 1x after driving around Dallas.
After having some issues with my GS3 after their LI3 update i decided to go back to my EVO LTE since it too has had some updates.
The week i used my EVO LTE i never had any issues with it getting stuck on 1x. It also did switch back and forth between LTE, eHRPD and EVOD/A normally. If not a little slow to switch to LTE from time to time. I did find another thread and it looks like they have the LTE scan time set to 30 minutes. Way to long if you ask me.. But i guess in a year when more areas have actual saturation of LTE then once your connected it shouldnt matter much what the scan time is.
Yes, we know they have tried twice but it still doesn't work right.
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I think they have fixed some it on the stock rom.
I left for the GS3 about a month or two into owning my EVO LTE. .
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I'm curious. You bought a GS3 at full price? EBay?
I'm getting tired of this issue myself. I considered maybe switching to T-Mobile and getting the new LG Nexus, but I checked, and Sprints ETF doesn't start getting pro rated until after the fifth month! It will be at least next June before it becomes financially feasible, maybe longer.
I don't have a lot of hope that this issue will get fixed. The weird thing to me is that it's obvious Sprint values the name, EVO, yet this will effectively kill that reputation.
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Well how i got it isnt really relavent to the conversation. but if you must know it was a trade for another phone i had on CraigsList.
I like both devices but to me the upgrade from ICS to JB didnt really do all that much on the GS3.
Today i switched back to my EVO LTE and am going to use that for another week.
Never had any handoff issues using viperom
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Never had any handoff issues using viperom
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You have a special firmware?
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You have a special firmware?
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I honestly don't remember which firmware I'm on, I remember it the older one though.
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Working downtown LA today in one of the high rises - no 4G, even after doing the airplane mode trick or re booting. I guess they're not going to make their October deadline!
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