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Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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TheMan0790 said:
Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
xploited said:
I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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Nope, not minimal use.
Wifi on most of the time. Screen on for 4 hours. Music player on for 5 hours. Occasional GPS usage.
Question for all GB users, which is a pretty high number here. I ran MIUI Lithium and loved it except the battery was pathetic. I can deal with generally bad battery life since i came from an HD7 but it got out of hand. Anyway since there are a lot of GB roms out there and pretty active i suppose a lot of u found a way to handle it better. How do you u GB users get the most out of battery on a GB ROM? (ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
please share your setup since it can help a lot of others that want to manage battery better
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Try using the Bali-CM (For CM7/MIUI/OMFGB) kernel. It was designed around improving battery. I'm currently not using it however when I did I had much better battery life when I was... Also remember to undervolt, as that should further increase battery life without loss of performance. "Screen off" profiles in overclock apps like SetCPU also help in battery conservation.
An app that really helps battery life is called Juice Defender Plus. You should try it out! Here's an overview of the app posted by "Woodrube" that should help you get started...
This is how the JD Plus works (no need for JD Ultimate b/c we don't have many of the functions it supports. I just copied this from another thread the OP started awhile ago and I was trying to helps him out there.
If you set it to custom, the go into the settings tab on the right and then all the way at the bottom, there is two buttons to push, The first in Interactive which will pull up Juice Defender for up for any app that isn't already configured and the other is Configure Apps. This is the one that you can customize on an app-to-app basis where if you are no using an app and the screen is locked, it kills the radio/data traffic for that app.
Say you are listening to IHeartRadio, this you would want either Enable or Enable/off (which means the screen will be locked but the radio/data will be working). Now take the browser. It you are not using the browser, then you don't need it transmitting data right? So you would set that one to Enable (which means that it will only enable data traffic when that app is being used).
Juice Defender only works when the screen is locked, don't forget and all widgets are battery drains b/c all they really are is a monitoring app and if it is tied to something like FB or G+, then that data will be running constantly.
Examples:
Gmail = Enable (not enable/off b/c then it will keep your radio/data open)
Beautiful Widgets = Enable/off
mClock/Clockr = Enable/off
Angry Birds = Disable (with this and something like Adfree, no more ads in Angry Birds even though the ads are embedded in the .apk)
SMS/MMS = Enable or Do Nothing (why would you push disable)
Enable = Radio/data on when app is in use (front)
Enable/off = Radio/data on for background apps (when screen is locked)
Disable = Disables radio/data traffic completely when that app is running
Do Nothing = What is says.
I have been using JD+ for over a year on 3 different phones and have noticed a considerable difference in battery life, even on a crappy Motorola phone. Just takes some time to figure out YOUR settings and what YOU like. I have also used it on Stock kernel and had no problems either.
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Under status I have Profile>Customize (this one lets you configure your apps) Notification> Text
Under settings I have
Mobile and Wifi are both set to Enable,
Options>Auto Disable,
Location>disable,
Schedule>Enable:frequency>1h,
Night>Enable :12am6am (b/c I am asleep but if I am on, user takes priority),
Apps>Enable;
Configure>Interactive.
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Also, don't forget that our Vibrant's screens are huge power drainers. Keeping it on a lower brightness level helps save a lot of battery. Hope this helps!
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By the way, whenever you flash a new rom you are going to want to do a battery re-calibration. This will help excessive battery drain. However you only need to do it once when you flash a new rom! Use this app to easily do a re-calibration.... http://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=battery+calibration+nema
Here are some screenies to give you an idea of how JD+ can be set up. Noob, thanks for the tag, buddy.
+1 on the screen settings too. Plus when you are pulling on-line music for extended time and notice the phone getting hot, it isn't all the processor, it is the screen that is causing some of the heat. Hence my enable/off for MLB or Tune-in in the shots below.
Noob, thanks for the tag, buddy.
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No problem, bro.
Which version of Lithium were you running? Try Prime 360 (Miui 2.3.7). With heavy usage, I usually get around 16-20 hrs. With light usage, I had 29hrs with it. Let your battery drain, fully recharge and you should have remarkable results.
I tried NB-360 ROM, it had decent battery life, with many battery saving features included, but it didn't compare to Prime if you need longevity out of your battery. It currently uses the Neo R18 Kernel.
Let me know how it goes.
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Question for all GB users, which is a pretty high number here. I ran MIUI Lithium and loved it except the battery was pathetic. I can deal with generally bad battery life since i came from an HD7 but it got out of hand. Anyway since there are a lot of GB roms out there and pretty active i suppose a lot of u found a way to handle it better. How do you u GB users get the most out of battery on a GB ROM? (ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
please share your setup since it can help a lot of others that want to manage battery better
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So my Setup is basically running CM7 (with 2.3.7), and having a kernel which supports something called "undervolting"
right now, I have a kernel called glitch kernel.. which basically gives me an app where i can set my own custom voltages (like undervolting it -50 mv from the original voltage). THis can help save TONS of battery, but always refer to your kernel guide on how low to set the voltage.
We don't want any bootloops or bricks now do we
I also use an app (in conjunction with my kernel) called screen filter. This dims the LEDS inside youe phone individually so it saves a ton of battery.
i get 1.5 days on full charge listening to music and going on the internet constantly
thanks a million guys. im currently running cm7 stable and flashed glitch v13 kernel. set leakage to medium (honestly still dont understand the difference very well) and undervolted like you guys recommended. ill see how battery treats me.
^^ BTW i had Lithium 11/11/11 update with default kernel
If i see a significant increase in battery, ill give MIUI a go again with Prime since it seems to have good battery. Ill keep u updated, thanks again
Edit: quick question. is it true that the solid white colors still kill much more battery with our screens? or was it mostly a first gen amoled issue?
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update: glitch v13 with undervolting really did the trick!!! after a full work day on which on a GB rom my phone would be begging for mercy with about 20% remaining more or less, today i finished with just over 70%, and that was after i realized that the undervolting settings did not stick after boot when i unplugged it and i applied it again (my phone was at 90% when i did this)
speechless...
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So it's been roughly a week since the ICS leak hit. What are your impressions?
I didn't think a tweaked GB 2.3.4 rom was too bad, at least not to the point where I constantly pined over ICS. GB was satisfactory to say the least.
ICS has been pretty impressive imo. Battery life has definitely improved and things feel a bit more peppier. Then again it could all be placebo effect. I mainly preferred a sense base rom for the camera and I'm pretty happy i can have the best of both worlds.
Overall if my level of satisfaction with the 2.3.4 roms was a 7/10 i would rate my satisfaction a 9/10 with ICS.
What do you guys think so far?
So far so good, i would rate it 9.5/10.
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
Very stable here.
dasudevil said:
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
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I'm having the same experience.
the only thing i really dislike about ics is the lack of apps optimized for ics (no fault of ics of course)
my reception doesn't feel changed at all.
I guess its because where i am its either 1. very strong or 2. weak to the point where there is no signal.
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
I like ARHD. I'm getting fast data speeds and good reception. The battery life isn't all that great. I already reconditioned it 3 times, and did a battery stats wipe. Unplugged it at 12 am, and checked it at 6am. It was already at 86 percent. If it was my glacier, it would be at 95 or more. I also used better battery stats app, and disabled any rouge apps. Juice defender running disabling all data, and system tuner sets the governor to powersave while the screen is off.
For some reason, I can't get the radio settings to stick. It always goes back to gsm whenever I tried to set it to gsm/wcdma prl or anything else.
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I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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I split my games into categories (RPG, board, etc). Very useful.
My reception has gotten slightly better, stock ICS with Apex launcher is much smoother than any GB ROM I've tried, and even though I'm not a fan of HTC Sense's overhead, I'm still pretty happy with it
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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glacierguy said:
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Is that launcher on the Goggle Market? I may give it a try.
glacierguy said:
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Stock rooted? I thought u would be running speedrom or something
But I do enjoy ics very much. Everything is smoother and more fluid. I LOVE IT!
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1. MUCH improved battery life.
2. Snappier response.
3. 150MB less memory usage on average. I've changed nothing about my usage habits. This probably contributes quite a bit to the snappier performance.
I'm not sure if reception is better, haven't really been paying attention. Overall I'm impressed. I like the return to the icon bar instead of that stupid giant PHONE button with two other useless things on it. I am noticing a little bit of stutter on cpu intensive apps; wonder if that's just tweaking/optimization that will be taken care of in the release.
I think my phone reception is a little bit better with the new radio, but my wifi reception has gone crazy with the new radio. Sometimes I'll have full bars sitting in one spot, and 0 wifi bars a minute later in the same spot. I do like ICS a lot more than GB though.
Perhaps those are some of the issues the T-Mobile team wants HTC to fix before the actual release.
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!
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Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing
I gotta give this a try
A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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sudermatt said:
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.
I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.
This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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I'm just generally asking peoples opinions, not which rom is best, or which provides the most battery life. But just generally we all know there has been slight decrease in battery since ICS and Jellybean, and I do remember having at least a bit more battery life than I do now when I was on GB. So people's opinions, does anyone think it's worth going back to GB?
No. It's like asking 'Would you rather go back to Windoze 3.1 ?' (A: Only if I can go back to 1993). Making an absolute statement like 'Battery life running GB stock is better than running ICS or JB stock' is nonsense. For some people & some phone setups, sure, they might well get better battery life running GB stock. And for a whole bunch of other people, that won't be the case.
So it's not a particularly meaningful question to begin with due to the variables involved.
Bungle is right.GB is very old.A lot of apps are made to support Android 4.0/4.1 +.With GB you will lose this
Battery life was better on gb but jb is so much faster, smoother and better looking! so its worth the extra battery usage
Haha well I do like the extra performance and looks but I'd also like the extra battery life, trying to find a balance in ROMs and kernels just to find my phone to last a whole day without being used and losing 50% battery is really hard for me D:
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I used neatrom base 4.0.4 Ver 3.6 Battery is used 3h40' On Screen for Download, web.., Wait time: 12h.
mate i can use nearly 4+ oc browsing
battery depend on many things, gb is to old ,isc is crap ,wifh jb u have to options stock(custom) or cm10.1-2 4.2.2 just read anojt and chose .
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for me GB is an escape pod for people who needs a lot of ram and would like the old vs the new, since the JB uses up a lot of ram even from just stock apps but lacks style and interface, it's ugly when you look at it from a person who has a JB. S
Rooted stock GB for me,with speedmod kernel.
I wouldnt use anything else.
Why are you using GB theunderling? What are the exact benefits?
I'm also thinking about going back to GB
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Why are you using GB theunderling? What are the exact benefits?
I'm also thinking about going back to GB
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I use it because it works as it should and has the best battery life;for me.
Ive tried loads of custom roms and Ive found theres always one problem or other,or the battery life is poor.
This isnt criticism of developers work,but I just use what I said earlier with the Samsung bloatware removed.
And these type of threads arent advised,as theres 1000s of different setups available which work differently for each user;thus can result in arguments.
dark_blitz said:
for me GB is an escape pod for people who needs a lot of ram and would like the old vs the new, since the JB uses up a lot of ram even from just stock apps but lacks style and interface, it's ugly when you look at it from a person who has a JB. S
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mate on 4.2.2 + dorimax and system is smooth battery frindly when u how to set and i prepared system when boot i have nearly 500mb ram free and usualy 300+ and all aps work ,
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