Hi all, is it sony live walkman poor in display? after buying i didnt realize it... but after try to change font and add bravia engine, i found that the display of word n numeric are poor.. seem like a shadow around font... i try change stock font but seem it same... anyone got same problem with me?
p/s: sorry for my poor English
First of all bravia engine is not meant for this device. what's the point of putting it anyway? My display is fine not so great but not that bad. Tweaking the phone to have something it shouldn't have is a different story, there is a reason why SE did not put bravia engine to this device.
If you're looking for a great great you should have bought the xperia line or get a phone with super amoled display.
bravia engine does not effect fonts or UI, it just effects pictures/video
so it mean live walkman already have poor display of font... huhu
did you changed font? try some other font
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I bought Sony Ericsson Live with walkman 2 weeks ago and the first thing i notice is that there is something wrong with the display contrast, when the background is black or dark the contrast will automaticly change make the white very shiny and annoying even i cant read the word "Google" inside the search widget, screenshot for that attached
is there any fix for that ? maybe kernel ??
link in Sony Ericsson talk forum about that issue "in the attachments"
It doesn't sport the same Bravia Engine the other 2011 xperia's have so contrast isn't exactly "spot on" i guess that's why they installed the Bravia engine on the other xperias in the first place
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It doesn't sport the same Bravia Engine the other 2011 xperia's have so contrast isn't exactly "spot on" i guess that's why they installed the Bravia engine on the other xperias in the first place
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As far as i know the "Bravia engine" only affect the images and the videos not general performance, am i wrong ?
and by the way my old Xperia X8 have better contrast than this one, and no "Bravia engine" there at all !!!
Well the Xperia mini has the same no. of colors ( both have 16M ) and both have the same res ( both have 320 x 480 ) the only difference is the ppi (Mini: 192 ppi, Live: 180 ppi ) and that the Mini has the Bravia Engine. Note, The Bravia Engine was intended to affect picture, video, and ui
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Well the Xperia mini has the same no. of colors ( both have 16M ) and both have the same res ( both have 320 x 480 ) the only difference is the ppi (Mini: 192 ppi, Live: 180 ppi ) and that the Mini has the Bravia Engine. Note, The Bravia Engine was intended to affect picture, video, and ui
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If im not wrong it doesnt have Xloud.
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You might want to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346190
The dev tested it on his live with walkman and that tweak installer has CWM and Bravia engine included.
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If im not wrong it doesnt have Xloud.
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Yh it does, its in the options when you play music under settings
I think that Bravia engine is not involved with that because simply the contrast issue only appear if the background is black otherwise the contrast is OK ( check the screenshot i attach, they are both from my live but one when the background is black and the other when it is blue )
Any idea !!!
Here's my screenshot on black theme, contrast not so bad (brightness @ 100%)
g00gle88 said:
Here's my screenshot on black theme, contrast not so bad (brightness @ 100%)
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I mean what you see in the screen in real, not in the screenshot ( actually i Photoshop my screenshot to simulate the real view because i don't have HD camera so i can capture my mobile screen, the screenshot will not show you your mobile screen problem because simply you are viewing them on the computer screen )
so it only show that this issue is locally visible in your phone might well bring it to sonyericsson service center in your area. I never heard of this issue among the SE Live owners in the philippines.
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so it only show that this issue is locally visible in your phone might well bring it to sonyericsson service center in your area. I never heard of this issue among the SE Live owners in the philippines.
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Quot from SE reply to me in SE Talk Forum
"Haven't heard about this before, but as I started to play around with the Live with Walkman I can actually see that the contrast changes depending on which background/theme you are using and also that the red icons on blue background leaves a shadow. I have escalated this and will get back to you when I get more information. Thanks for reporting."
and the link is attached
medomoo said:
I bought Sony Ericsson Live with walkman 2 weeks ago and the first thing i notice is that there is something wrong with the display contrast, when the background is black or dark the contrast will automaticly change make the white very shiny and annoying even i cant read the word "Google" inside the search widget, screenshot for that attached
is there any fix for that ? maybe kernel ??
link in Sony Ericsson talk forum about that issue "in the attachments"
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Dude, I'm having the same exact problem with my Xperia Mini Pro. I thought it's the Bravia Engine so I tried turning it off, but same thing. I noticed this problem when I look at the "Google" word inside the Search box widget. When I'm using the black theme, the contrast is bad and it's like the "Google" word is too bright to read.
It's really annoying. I thought I'm the only one experiencing this. It's like the screen is too washed out.
Quot from PhoneArena review just released today
"Its color reproduction leans a bit towards the warm side, while its contrast levels and viewing angles are average at best. Another problem that we notice is that its pixel response time is rather high, meaning that moving objects leave a faint blurry trail behind them"
and i mentioned this issue earlier in the SE talk forum,
anyone else facing issues in the screen ???
medomoo said:
Quot from PhoneArena review just released today
"Its color reproduction leans a bit towards the warm side, while its contrast levels and viewing angles are average at best. Another problem that we notice is that its pixel response time is rather high, meaning that moving objects leave a faint blurry trail behind them"
and i mentioned this issue earlier in the SE talk forum,
anyone else facing issues in the screen ???
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I think thats lancher effect because other launcher doesnt have that.
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tried that too, using go launcher didn't fix anything, thank you
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Where is xda Developers ???
what ? is it only me who facing that issue ?
Its fixed on newest firmware.
just wondering if there is a bravia engine ported for the live with walkman as the BE makes a great difference to the display!.Thnx in advance
Yes, in Development section there is a program, that installs it.
Only for stock ROM and improves only photo's and video's quality a little bit, not very much.
I had these files extracted from Xperia RAY latest ICS firmware with Unlocked BL. it worked on Xperia Neo, Ray, and Arc even I already unlocked the BL, but anyone who tried to use the Album app on any 2011 devices with unlocked BL, MBE is not working.
i managed to install this apps on my Acro S, it loads the Xperia Gallery but closes once it loads a pic.
Anyone in here who has the knowledge to make this files work on Xperia S and Acro, might help us experience BE on pics again.
Please cooperate.
Files...
here are the files..
I tried this earlier (with many more files); the gallery crashes (it's for GB ROMS). I also tried to use GB libraries from Xperia S past firmwares but even they don't work on ICS.
By the way, I was able to come to the point where the thumbnail loads before the full image in the GB gallery. In that momentary fraction, it appeared ordinary - i.e. the Bravia Engine probably wouldn't work even if the gallery app can be tweaked
The problem is perhaps in the libSwiqi.so (or similarly named file). That is present in ICS but was absent from GB. Replacing some of the other files associated with Bravia engine didn't break the video functionality in my tests, however alterations of this file made the engine stop working altogether (in videos as well ).
This issue is somewhat complex and the exact CAUSE and associated files are hard to determine
Screw Sony for not fixing this yet! It has been several months now...
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P.S. Can anyone with Xperia Arc / 2011 Xperia with working Bravia engine on unlocked bootloader upload that libSwiqi file?
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this files are from xperia ray running ICS. not gingerbread mate.
got them from my xperia ray with unlocked bootloader yet be is working perfectly fine.
i could attach that file you want.. just a sec..
let us help each other in making this work.
others out there dont even care.
mate, i cant see any lib file that goes with the name libSwiqi
i saw someone who is claiming about successfully porting BE to other devices. can you help me analyze which file was used?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923630
lib file
got this one from acid sound mod files claiming to have BE ported properly.
saying that this file is from 2011 line up.
install the ones i have provided above, together with this mate. then tell me..
I wished I could use this gallery version instead of the Xperia s one.
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Thanks for uploading the files mate. I'll test and report back.
So Xperia Ray still has this old gallery on ICS. We used to have a similar one (and with some different libraries) in GB. i.e. libSwiqiController wasn't present in the GB version of Xperia S as well. In ICS update, Sony added new libraries to control Bravia Engine and that must have messed up..
I'm convinced that the messed up files are the libraries and not the app itself. Would you also check something else: On your Xperia Ray, install QuickPic, turn HW rendering on from settings and check if Bravia Engine appears to work in that mode. (To get an idea about how closely the functioning of BE is related to the gallery app. I noticed that HW mode in 3rd party video players enables Bravia Engine ; maybe it's the same for photos as well)
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BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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Maybe u don't know that GS3 have a type of display rendering engine! There's are option like: dynamic, standard, or vivid, i forgot! That's y it's work the same way with GS3 or 2 or note! But i think that it's rendering engine isn't any better than Bravia engine!
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BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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Hmm.. so QuickPic doesn't work... :\
But as far as MX is concerned, it DEFINITELY uses Bravia on HW. (You can see that the colour saturation and contrast disappears when you turn Bravia off)
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sorry mate but that is not the case from what i see.
mx video using hw+ also makes the sound louder and better. i think it does the same thing with hw for videos. it enhances something in the process but that is not BE.
then how can you explain it with my GALAXY SII? as you well know, the over rated super over saturated far from reality SUPERAMOLED PLUS will stress your eyes and will lead to head acheif you wont stop looking at it. much worst if you will watch a full length movie.
if you will turn off HW and put it under SW, it gives a more natural color look (taking off about 25%) of color saturation and contrast.
but if you turn it on, it will show something like the ones we experience on our 2012 xperia devices. bumping up colors and showing a less noisy output.
sony has made something magical yet a buggy software. no one managed to port MBE properly with other sony devices like xperia neo L, live with walkman and the good old xperia x10.
anyways, let us keep on searching till we get something to make it work.
any news about the xperia gallery from 2011 line up? i have sent an email to several talented devs, but no one seems to care. sorry if i am not a dev but i think you have a better understanding with programs, right?
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Maybe u don't know that GS3 have a type of display rendering engine! There's are option like: dynamic, standard, or vivid, i forgot! That's y it's work the same way with GS3 or 2 or note! But i think that it's rendering engine isn't any better than Bravia engine!
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oh and yes, GSII have those options as well. but you can only select those options under the display settings. and it also have 3 color tones available under the default video player.
but none of these color settings offers the same level of saturation and color accuracy compared to that of SW mode of MXVIDEO.
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sorry mate but that is not the case from what i see.
mx video using hw+ also makes the sound louder and better. i think it does the same thing with hw for videos. it enhances something in the process but that is not BE.
then how can you explain it with my GALAXY SII? as you well know, the over rated super over saturated far from reality SUPERAMOLED PLUS will stress your eyes and will lead to head acheif you wont stop looking at it. much worst if you will watch a full length movie.
if you will turn off HW and put it under SW, it gives a more natural color look (taking off about 25%) of color saturation and contrast.
but if you turn it on, it will show something like the ones we experience on our 2012 xperia devices. bumping up colors and showing a less noisy output.
sony has made something magical yet a buggy software. no one managed to port MBE properly with other sony devices like xperia neo L, live with walkman and the good old xperia x10.
anyways, let us keep on searching till we get something to make it work.
any news about the xperia gallery from 2011 line up? i have sent an email to several talented devs, but no one seems to care. sorry if i am not a dev but i think you have a better understanding with programs, right?
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Hrm, if i compared the SW mode in Gs2 or 3 with xperia s, u'll see same effect! Now try to turn on Hardware acceleration and compare, they both enchance color due to the use of their hardware rendering engines while GS3 got those options, ours got bravia engine, but difcerent effect! If u try to turn off BE in Xperia S and switch between SW and HW there's NO difference! U can try!
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oh and yes, GSII have those options as well. but you can only select those options under the display settings. and it also have 3 color tones available under the default video player.
but none of these color settings offers the same level of saturation and color accuracy compared to that of SW mode of MXVIDEO.
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So u mean than those options for GS3 make the display look worse than It should be! Lolz! I've been thinking the same!
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okay, its my mistake. it works with mx
it works with mx, but yeah, superamoled even plus sucks no matter what color calibration or settings you would do. i do not know how others like the greenish and bluish tones of superamoled. now, can you help making xperia gallery work on our devices? it might work that way, but that one works with xperia ray with unlocked bootloader.
ambetdelarosa said:
it works with mx, but yeah, superamoled even plus sucks no matter what color calibration or settings you would do. i do not know how others like the greenish and bluish tones of superamoled. now, can you help making xperia gallery work on our devices? it might work that way, but that one works with xperia ray with unlocked bootloader.
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I don't know! I can't make it work for myself neither! Maybe we'll try to pull all BE related file and test with ours! I used to try with GB version! But no use!
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While reading post on xperia arc some one has posted that the difference between bravia and bravian2 is visible in album app of sony and he is right but I want to know that is it possible to use the same color scheme all over?
Hey guys i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to change the saturation on the Sony Xperia 1 III
I'm used to setting a high saturation on All my screens since i love when colors pop
So i find the screen rather dull to look at, especially in games.
Changing the normal white balance doesn't really satisfy me as it doesn't make the screen more vibrant
Thanks for any help
Hi,
in past, for older xperia devices there was "vivid mode' within screen options in settings.
Unfortunately, sone as a company obsessed to remove features and options its fans loved decided to remove this feature among the others too.
Now we have only normal and washed out (creator) modes...
The only thing is to e-mail official sony support hoping they will pass this info to sony xperia software division internally.
Tbh, on a software level what sony does with its devices is horrible. Thank's god I was able to download sony album app from Internet and it works. This app was removed too... If it didn't work for me, I would return this device. Now happy with having sony album.
Unfortunately screen vivid mode was not an app but just integrated setting
I am missing it too.