So, i have read that the only way that HTC or Verizon can tell that your phone was unlocked using HTC's unlocker was because when you relocked it, on the top of H-Boot it says relocked. I am wondering if anyone has found a way to hide this so you can send it back and have it appear as stock.
When you use the unlocker it also records your ESN so they have your phone on the no warranty list.
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oh sorry i was unaware of that
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When you use the unlocker it also records your ESN so they have your phone on the no warranty list.
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What if you have insurance? For example if I magically brick somehow after unlocking, will my insurance be voided or no?
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I don't think anyone will truly know until someone has an accident.
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What if you have insurance? For example if I magically brick somehow after unlocking, will my insurance be voided or no?
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I would think it depends if verizon has access to this list from htc. Anyone know if verizon can tell your warrenty status through HTC or if they just go by the date you purchased your phone.
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I would think it depends if verizon has access to this list from htc. Anyone know if verizon can tell your warrenty status through HTC or if they just go by the date you purchased your phone.
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They probably will have the info, we will have to wait to see what they do with it.
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Ok so my camera used to work, im s-on rooted running a rom, camera app shows up, no preview and the buttons do
nothing. So, has any one had this and was able to fix it? What did you do? Any help would be appreciated.
And im a week beyond the 30 day warranty so no trading for a new one, and I don't really feel like sending it in to HTC
just yet.
You do know its one year warranty.
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You do know its one year warranty.
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Yeah but I don't want to send it in. I was looking for a quick fix.
"Rooted running a rom"
That doesn't exactly help us help you.what Rom is it
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Usually that is indicative of a non compatible kernel.
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Running rejuvenated 2.1. Also rotted s-on
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Unrooted and relocked bootloader, still no camera. Even did the latest RUU and no rear camera! will my htc warranty still
work since I did the htcdev unlock????????????????
If your still within your warranty time frame you should be fine. My last EVOLTE had major antenna issues and Sprint gave me a new one, even though it was rooted. And yes the tech knew it was rooted.
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Unrooted and relocked bootloader, still no camera. Even did the latest RUU and no rear camera! will my htc warranty still
work since I did the htcdev unlock????????????????
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Ok but i'm out of my 30 day, so I'm stuck with the htc warranty. I called Htc and they said my warranty was fine. If they try to go into recovery, since I used HTCDEV will they just kick it back to me?? I don't know if some one will know this for sure, thought I would ask.
Just curious.... has anyone ever looked at the contract lately. I was looking to see where it said anything about rooting devices but no dice. Can someone clear that up maybe with a link? Thank you
I don't believe the contract says anything about it, but the warranty on the other hand is a different story.
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I always wondered, if you told Verizon you are or were rooted, do they write it down? So even if you unroot they will know your warranty is void?
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I always wondered, if you told Verizon you are or were rooted, do they write it down? So even if you unroot they will know your warranty is void?
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Well with the Rezound, you need to use an unlock key from HTC's site, so they know you rooted your phone..
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Well with the Rezound, you need to use an unlock key from HTC's site, so they know you rooted your phone..
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I don't think they coordinate with vzw on that ... I would be very surprised I'd they did. But as for warranty... how would it void that?
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First of all, they probably won't check the bootloader to see if you've unlocked it. And if you really wanna be precautious, you can revert back to locked, although it is an extensive process
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Honestly i really understand why unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty since you cant really break your phone being S-ON, now if you were S-OFF that is a whole other story. And honestly someone who is unlocked and/or rooted is likely to have enough experience to be able to fix almost any software related issue(not always the case though). Being unlocked and/or rooted shouldnt hold you back from sending it in for warranty. Although i have heard some people say it goes through warranty just fine being rooted and unlocked.
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First of all, they probably won't check the bootloader to see if you've unlocked it. And if you really wanna be precautious, you can revert back to locked, although it is an extensive process
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I know what I can do... but it has nothing to do with my device ... I just am curious if vzw has anything legit in place against modifying software on the phones. I've seen where it says you can not modify the hardware but saw nothing of software
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I know what I can do... but it has nothing to do with my device ... I just am curious if vzw has anything legit in place against modifying software on the phones. I've seen where it says you can not modify the hardware but saw nothing of software
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I don't know legally what they can do, but I've had a few conversations with the local reps in my area. They don't care if you phone is rooted as most of them have rooted phones. I was in with my dad the one day back when he was getting the Tbolt, and the rep noticed that my bolt was rooted. He said honestly, he would never recommend the bolt to someone who wasn't going to root it anyway. I've been told that they are a lot more lax about rooting now than they were in the past.
At the Verizon store near me, the only person that cares is the manager. The rest of the employees don't care
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As far as I know Verizon doesn't care at all if you root, (I've unlocked the bootloader, relocked and sent in many Rezounds and they never cared) and HTC just tells you they have the right to not honor your warranty when you unlock your bootloader, at their discretion, but they almost always honor it.
Another thing, unless you have the extended warranty with Verizon (I think), your Rezound's warranty is handled by HTC, Verizon is just the middle man.
Legally Verizon can't do anything as it is legal for any consumer to root and do whatever the hell they want with the software on their phones, but they can choose not to honor your warranty if they feel your modifications are the reason the phone became faulty. Link http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/26/iphone-jailbreak-and-android-root-declared-legal-in-us-feds-exempt-smartphone-hacks-from-dmca/
So your safe, have fun rooting worry free !
Isn't there a way to trick your phone so that Verizon can't tell you did it?
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My thought has always been yes I received a unlock code, but show me proof that I actually used the code and unlocked the bootloader.
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I have already sent back 4 Rezounds this year under the warranty and as I made of fact I am now awaiting my 5th any day. Each one was unlocked and rooted. I re-flash the RUU before sending it back and have not had an issue yet.
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I have already sent back 4 Rezounds this year under the warranty and as I made of fact I am now awaiting my 5th any day. Each one was unlocked and rooted. I re-flash the RUU before sending it back and have not had an issue yet.
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have you sent them back for legit problems? and what were you problems? (even if you made them up )
I think the only risk you would have is if they somehow found out you were tethering. It does day in the Verizon contact that you can't tether without using (and paying for) their service.
But I've also heard from countless people that they would never know. Unless you returned a phone with the tether app and files still in there.
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Doesn't tetherguard tell them you are tethering?
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They throw the returns in a bin. The whole idea of non removable battery is to make it easyer on the return department
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Doesn't tetherguard tell them you are tethering?
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No...they can't do anything unless you were stock and they had an app or service running at all times to monitor it. Otherwise they would have no way to tell
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No...they can't do anything unless you were stock and they had an app or service running at all times to monitor it. Otherwise they would have no way to tell
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Not 100% true. If you are doing a WiFi tether, where the device is acting as a hotspot they can tell because they can see more than one private IP being routed through your devices' public IP. This combined with the fact that you don't have hotspot on your account can be considered a breach of contract.
So how many have seen this? What's your take on it?
http://androidspin.com/2013/05/01/htc-one-s-off-achieved-htc-users-can-now-rejoice-as-well/
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Hadn't seen it until you posted it. Its interesting, i don't support the service but it really shows that we can achieve S-OFF, which is awesome.
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Hadn't seen it until you posted it. Its interesting, i don't support the service but it really shows that we can achieve S-OFF, which is awesome.
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They probably achieved s-off via jtag.. so it will be a while before devs achieve s-off. Not saying they can't do it.
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wow interesting!
What exactly is jtag? I'm not a noob but I'm definitely not a dev... I also noticed the bootloader still said locked so I'm assuming they didn't have to use HTC dev first like my EVO LTE(just left sprint for T-Mobile). I'd like to keep from having to register my phone with HTC dev in case of warranty issues
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What exactly is jtag? I'm not a noob but I'm definitely not a dev... I also noticed the bootloader still said locked so I'm assuming they didn't have to use HTC dev first like my EVO LTE(just left sprint for T-Mobile). I'd like to keep from having to register my phone with HTC dev in case of warranty issues
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Jtag is a service that can flash motherboards, they can unbrick them, root them, s-off, ect. Its only because they have the files from HTC them selves to do it. I have talked to them before in my HTC inspire 4g days.... Ide love to have an evo, 2nd best phone on the market
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Jtag is a service that can flash motherboards, they can unbrick them, root them, s-off, ect. Its only because they have the files from HTC them selves to do it. I have talked to them before in my HTC inspire 4g days.... Ide love to have an evo, 2nd best phone on the market
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Ahh I see, makes sense... Too bad they won't release that to the public... I'll be selling my EVO LTE and nexus s 4g as soon as I clear my sprint account... I would have kept it if sprints data wasn't so horrible...
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I recently sent my HTC one to HTC for resetting issues, I was issued an out of warranty fee. How did they find out my device had been unlocked at one point? I used revone to lock my device and I s on.. I'm running the new tmobile 1.44 patched firmware. Im wondering if HTC has created some sort of flash counter like Samsung??
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I recently sent my HTC one to HTC for resetting issues, I was issued an out of warranty fee. How did they find out my device had been unlocked at one point? I used revone to lock my device and I s on.. I'm running the new tmobile 1.44 patched firmware. Im wondering if HTC has created some sort of flash counter like Samsung??
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That's actually pretty interesting. Why did you send it to HTC rather than T-Mobile though?
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Maybe the unlock code being used and associating itself with the phone?
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Was it a hardware issue? You should be able to call them and have that waived. They cannot legally refuse to honor the hardware warranty because an unlock code was issued... even if they could prove you actually used it.
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Because my device was SIM unlocked and didn't want some crappy refurb..tmobile is hell to get a SIM unlocked pin
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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yea i immediately call BS on HTC for that. even before i unlocked my phone it got REALLY hot. kinda an ass move though saying that because you unlocked it immediately made your phone overheat and magicly cause damage.
Somebody should sue them for being misleading. The website should say " it will void your warranty" not this may or maynot crap.
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Somebody should sue them for being misleading. The website should say " it will void your warranty" not this may or maynot crap.
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i wish manufactures would let users modify the $670 device theyve purchased. i mean its like buying a laptop but being told you cannot use the backspace key or you void your warranty....
but yes i noticed that too. it says "may void your warranty" instead of "will void your warranty"
I agree an unlocked device is almost impossible to hard brick...with the RUU it's impossible. So yea so long as you don't s off..but flashing roms takes money out of the carriers pocket and they can't persuaid you to purchase a new device to get that fancy upgrade.
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I agree an unlocked device is almost impossible to hard brick...with the RUU it's impossible. So yea so long as you don't s off..but flashing roms takes money out of the carriers pocket and they can't persuaid you to purchase a new device to get that fancy upgrade.
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yup cant really do much about it i suppose. and well i know a few ways you could brick the One but youd have to be intentionally trying to do so.
call BS on this and get your phone back from HTC.
what you should have done was go to T-mobile first, they have a one year software warranty, regardless of what you do to your phone (or so i was told). if you haven't paid the fee already i would highly recommend doing this now.
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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Apparently at this time without the RUU for tmobile, if you unroot and relock, the bootloader will show relocked. If there is a way to not show relocked on the bootloader, maybe you someone can share the info.
Will this happen to me if I'm sending my phone to T-Mobile? I'm complaining for the camera issue.
There is an official RUU for T-Mobile, it also removed the ability to revone. Ry how have a fix for that by dropping back to the .8 RUU. You remove the relocked message by having s-off, then using revone commands to change unlocked to locked. This is in the revone posts
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HTC is claiming it was overheating that caused the issue which is directly the cause of unlocking my device. I still deny the device was ever locked. HTC said there engineers have a way to detect if the bootloader has ever been tampered with..maybe revone leave traces?
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What is the issue?
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As soon as you unlock the bootloader to use REVONE you voided any warranty that isn't cosmetic damage to hardware pretty much, and you do say I understand this voids my warranty when getting that code to unlock through HTCDEV.... I'm confused as to your confusion OP.
Okay so ive seen a few posts on xda from the s-off devs already. How long you think till we get unlocked and rooted?
Not long. Lol.
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Believe me. This phone will have the best of the best devs. Won't b long bro.
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The international one has root and recovery already. I guess htc dev works to. Maybe us at&t users will luck out.
US carriers promised to lock things down tightly after the One came out. I guess we'll see.
Good thing i have a 14 day return period lol. Cant live without root.
do we know if this device has a locked bootloader that will be hard to crack or will they actually design it to be unlocked like sony does.
im trying to decide between m8 and z2, and i know sony has been cool in the past with allowing the phone to be easily rooted and unlocked to allow flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s4 with unlocked mdk bootloader but i am upgrading and i want to be able to mod my phone
did anyone try htc-dev or kingo?
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we will once we get the phone today.
as of today the verizon users cannot use htc dev, we shall see if at&t locked us out to. good thing is i know s-off is being worked on.
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do we know if this device has a locked bootloader that will be hard to crack or will they actually design it to be unlocked like sony does.
im trying to decide between m8 and z2, and i know sony has been cool in the past with allowing the phone to be easily rooted and unlocked to allow flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s4 with unlocked mdk bootloader but i am upgrading and i want to be able to mod my phone
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I ordered an m8 to test our cases on, but the z2 is the one I'm really looking forward to. It will have to be amazing though for me to give up my Note 3 screen real estate!
Already. Unlocked bootloader via HTC Dev. AT&T must have forgot lol
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Go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader fellas! Let the games begin!
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Go to htcdev.com and unlock your bootloader fellas! Let the games begin!
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So just to confirm... this method worked on your 'AT&T' HTC One M8 right?
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So just to confirm... this method worked on your 'AT&T' HTC One M8 right?
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Yes the att model can be unlocked through htcdev.com . Let's just hope ATT don't pull a VZW and yank it like they did with the M7!
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Confirmed that htc dev unlocking works on att..
I would assume this voids your warranty with at&t and no relocking and going back to virgin status?
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I would assume this voids your warranty with at&t and no relocking and going back to virgin status?
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Maybe and yes you can relock.
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Maybe and yes you can relock.
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I'm just concerned because I may be moving to att next and at the end of my 12 month I can turn the phone in and upgrade to a new one and want to be able to relock it so I don't have an issue when giving it back to AT&T
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I'm just concerned because I may be moving to att next and at the end of my 12 month I can turn the phone in and upgrade to a new one and want to be able to relock it so I don't have an issue when giving it back to AT&T
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I have returned quite a few phones that I have relocked and unrooted without one problem through warranty exchange. I'm not concerned with it at all and I am on the Next program as of this phone. Besides that, the warranty is up after the 1st year. This is just my experience and I can't speak for everyone.
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I'm just concerned because I may be moving to att next and at the end of my 12 month I can turn the phone in and upgrade to a new one and want to be able to relock it so I don't have an issue when giving it back to AT&T
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As long as you return the phone with a stock system ,boot,recovery etc and relock you will be okay my friend.
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Maybe and yes you can relock.
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As long as you return the phone with a stock system ,boot,recovery etc and relock you will be okay my friend.
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as long as I can do that, that's great. With my note2 having tripped Knox I do not have that option. Damn Samsung