at www dot samsung dot com /es/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphones/android/GT-I9001HKDFOP
Sorry I cannot post links
This device has no page at XDA-DEVELOPERS and it will not have official ICS.
It is being sealed in Spain by Vodafone and it needs some work.
Thanks in advance.
It does have a page here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1270
Thanks
Thanks
But ... It has no phone picture and it is not listed at the database being at your link as a submodel of the SG S I9000 that it is not
Samsung must use other name system for their devices
But SG S+ I9001 is a total different hardware than SG S 9000
And a lot of "normal" users will brick their phones trying to put a SG S ICS on a SG S+ and as it is being sold a lot in Spain, Germany, Russia and China this Christmas season perhaps a SG S+ ICS will be later at the "mod market"
I think it would be a good idea to put this model at the database with its own different specs and thread.
I have read some complains about this matter.
And i think they have good reasons to ask their different space not for having a similar name is a similar - in hardware - phone. Perhaps the name is because is near in the market segment but is very different in hardware.
mitcoes said:
Thanks
But ... It has no phone picture and it is not listed at the database being at your link as a submodel of the SG S I9000 that it is not
Samsung must use other name system for their devices
But SG S+ I9001 is a total different hardware than SG S 9000
And a lot of "normal" users will brick their phones trying to put a SG S ICS on a SG S+ and as it is being sold a lot in Spain, Germany, Russia and China this Christmas season perhaps a SG S+ ICS will be later at the "mod market"
I think it would be a good idea to put this model at the database with its own different specs and thread.
I have read some complains about this matter.
And i think they have good reasons to ask their different space not for having a similar name is a similar - in hardware - phone. Perhaps the name is because is near in the market segment but is very different in hardware.
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What? You couldn't tell the difference by just looking at them anyways. The only major differences in hardware are the graphics cards and processors (and of course chipset): http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3115&idPhone2=3908. It doesn't matter that it doesn't have it's "own" forum (at least it has one).
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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All equal outside but not inside Chipset, CPU and GPU
Chipset Hummingbird Qualcomm MSM8255T Snapdragon
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8 1.4 GHz Scorpion
GPU PowerVR SGX540 Adreno 205
Any phone with only one of this different parts will have other ICS rom - and of course different drivers and performance.
What you say is as if you have a desktop computer with the same monitor, keyboard, mice, webcam, hdd, case, but one is Intel+Nvidia and the other AMD+ATI, the inside is very important isn't it?
mitcoes said:
Chipset Hummingbird Qualcomm MSM8255T Snapdragon
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8 1.4 GHz Scorpion
GPU PowerVR SGX540 Adreno 205
Any phone with only one of this different parts will have other ICS rom - and of course different drivers and performance.
What you say is as if you have a desktop computer with the same monitor, keyboard, mice, webcam, hdd, case, but one is Intel+Nvidia and the other AMD+ATI, the inside is very important isn't it?
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That's what I said - They have different cpu's, gpu's, and chipsets. They will never be separated, so there is no point debating.
just go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1270
that is the official sgs+ page
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What is it with this model and those optimized games? and compatibility issues? Seriously? Would it be solved anytime soon? Or is the G in the end means i shud give up hope on my phone? Most S2 optimized games on samsungapps can't be installed
From JayceOoi's website:
In short, Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100 is using Samsung own Exynos 4210 SoC CPU and ARM Mali-400 GPU. And GT-I9100G uses Texas Instruments OMAP4430 CPU and PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
TWO DIFFERENT INTERNAL SPECS, DIFFERENT GPU AND CPU.
I9100G
- Doesn’t overheat easily, better battery life.
- CPU seems to be capped at 1008 MHz.
- Poorer 3D performance.
- Can’t download apps / games developed for Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 in Samsung Apps / Android Market.
- Fonts in PAPAGO! very small.
- Not much custom firmware / modification
I9100
- Overheat easily, poor battery life on Android 2.3.3. Android 2.3.5 fixed it.
- Fully use 1.2 GHz CPU.
- Better 3D performance.
- Anti-Aliasing (4xAA and 16xAA) support with Chainfire3D Pro.
- Lot of custom firmware, kernel, modification, tweaks…
Please Vote to get CyanogenMod on your I9100G
Guys,
Please vote the poll in the following link to get CyanogenMod on your I9100G.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583091
You can find the poll at the top of the thread. Please spread the news.
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- Can’t download apps / games developed for Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 in Samsung Apps / Android Market.
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i didn't get this point really... i have the G-variant and i didn't see any problem when downloading any app or game to it... am not sure if the applications are actually developed for a special mobile version, mostly apps/games are developed for "Android" and not for a certain company such as samsung or HTC or any other and neither for any model like GT-i9000 , GT-i9100 or even GT-i9100G etc...
ICS for GT-I9100G in india is available now!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679210
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679210
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enjoy the upgrade hope they keep on releasing other updates for all countries in the upcoming 2 days...am actually waiting for CM9 to be officially finalized so i can flash it
Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
if this is same as SGY (which it is) then it may not have a dedicated GPU..
As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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andy.acei said:
As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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if there is gpu then there is driver for it in kernel sources and blobs in firmwares
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
Androidnow said:
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
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Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
Androidnow said:
Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
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You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
tomsons26 said:
Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
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Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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Androidnow said:
Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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There is no seperate gpu. This Broadcom Videocore 4 variant has been added into cpu itself so that cpu can perform graphical calculations.
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Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Androidnow said:
Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Lol...ask Samsung
Sent from the year 3000 using a SGA where sheep's are not present.
IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
[email protected] said:
IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
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BCM2763? Nope
The i model and Galaxy Y has Broadcom VideoCore IV HW there is not much info what is it.
And interesting fact that's useful for gaming on these phones is that it supports only OpenGL ES 1.1, just as any software based GPU, because higher OpenGL ES version is not possible without a GPU.
OpenGL ES 1.1 was used back in Android 1.6 Donut days in 2009/early 2010
The original Ace has Adreno 200 which supports OpenGL ES 2.0 and is used in the cheap version of Xperia Play and a lot of other smartphones even today
OpenGL ES 1.1 VS OpenGL ES 2.0 is the same like DirectX 7 VS DirectX 9c
Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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Yeah Qualcomm stopped supporting and manufacturing ARMv6 chipsets in the end of 2011 so Samsung needed a replacement.
Maybe this is the reason my friend's new galaxy ace is on GB firmware not froyo.
It is quite a weird because she doesnt know how to use kies or odin.
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
tomsons26 said:
Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
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There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
[email protected] said:
There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
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I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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Androidnow said:
I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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Go to court and sue them
Which one is the best for community support (ROMs, mods, etc) and manufacturer support (accessories, drivers, etc)?
A pure Google Phone (Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus) or a phone that sold very well (Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III)?
Is it safe to buy a Galaxy Nexus/Galaxy SII now (solid hardware, going to survive at least two more years of updates) or is it better to wait for the next Nexus/buy the Galaxy SIII?
Maybe wait for an Android with 2GB of RAM to get better Ubuntu for Android support?
I ask this because I'm concerned about always being able to use the latest Android version, even if Google or the manufacturer doesn't release updates anymore (like the Nexus One that was abandoned, but received updates from the community because of its openness).
I have a HTC Desire Z now, and this phone is amazing, except for the lack of enough RAM to run apps and the lack of manufacturer support for getting drivers for the last Android updates.
What I really need is the best combo: community support + commercial support.
I'd like a phone with physical QWERTY keyboard, but seeing the options... I guess I will have to give up on that.
Thanks is advance!
Your best bet is a nexus. Most phones that require OEM or carrier updates will die out long before the nexus as you can pull the updates OS source code and build it for your device even if Google stops supporting it.
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A Nexus will always have more community support, although the very popular galaxy line has good support also.
Thanks for your answers!
Talking about hardware, is it better to wait for the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus is good enough to survive at least a couple more years without performance issues? Is Dual Core + 1GB RAM the standard for the next devices?
Also, the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus have different processors and GPUs... which one is the best between them?
Galaxy Nexus:
CPU 1.2 GHz dual-core Texas Instrument OMAP4460 processor
GPU Imagination Technologies PowerVR SGX540 GPU
Galaxy S II:
CPU 1.2 GHz dual-core Samsung Exynos 4210 processor
GPU ARM Mali-400 GPU
Is there any website that did benchmark tests between both processors and GPUs?
Thanks!
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
hrcoprco said:
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Benchmarks are unreliable is why see multiple posts on the subject .
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hrcoprco said:
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Thry could be using mods such as custom roms and kernels for example.
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this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
hahayesimsam said:
this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
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do you mean i9305?you're joking, right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5001&idPhone2=4238
Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
hahayesimsam said:
Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
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oh lol you meant this haha my bad
yupe, many devices out there to make us spend much more hahaahahahah
I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB
Which S3 is better?
sher_dil said:
I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB
Which S3 is better?
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The US version is btr in this case. Based on wat is ur requirements. U dun multi task much so u dun nid tat much cores. And more ram is btr.
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