Yesterday i tried the new modaco rom and was amazed by the speed unfortunatly i'd have to reinstall everything else so i restored the premade nandroid backup..
Has anyone experiences with a good backup application on the Hero ? Currently i'm thinking about using the App Manager + Handy Backup (free apps from Android Market) but i'm afraid that some data could be missing..
greetz rivak
I've not tried Handy.
I can confirm that neither MyBackupPro nor Backup for Root Users correctly backup/restore the HTC Sense UI stuff, so you will lose all your home screen customisations.
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
I'n not aware of an app that correctly backs up app *settings* either, but would love to know of one.
I tried Sprite, but its restore actually failed to complete. I didn't have time to play with it, so got a refund.
I can imagine the difficulty of writing an app to backup "settings" for ROM changes, as different ROM could have different adjustable settings...
I hope that HTC could provide us some app to back up settings within their apps, or allow us to export those settings (e.g. exporting saved custom Sense)
cdmackay said:
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
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AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
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Dave
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But does the restore really work flawless with free apps? i made the experience with many wm phones and different backup apps like sprite backup, that you will nearly always have some kind of minor bugs after restoring data (especially if you made a FW update). Thats why i resorted in setting up everything manually again, which is the cleanest way to setup a newly updates device. So is using appmanager for restoring apps really safe?
Well, thus far I've not had a problem with any apps that I restored using AppManager. Essentially all it does is copy the APKs to to the SD card, and reinstalls them when you restore. Therefore, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't work just as well as redownloading from the market, since that is just going to download and install the same APK.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
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indeed yes, apols; I've blurred this distinction before, too
foxmeister said:
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market.
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Well, it's easy, yes, but also rather tedious if you've got dozens of paid apps, as you'd have to re-installed each one individually.
Anyway, the latest Root Explorer can now copy around entire directory hierarchies, so I'll just use that to take a copy of the protected apk files, and restore them after.
there is one major drawback to those backup apps:
after restoring all apps the android market doesn't recognize those installled apps, and therefore there i had no easy overview of app update notes.
but since this is an important feature i had to reinstall everything from the market again, so i can see in the download list if my apps have got any updates...
so while app manager did work, this drawback makes it unusable for me sadly...
Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
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Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
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root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
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yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
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yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
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do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
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No, not quite. the MoDaCo custom ROM is based on HTC's 2.0, but is already rooted, so you can run root explorer, and other apps needing root, directly. It also has lots of other tweaks. You *do* need root to run Root Explorer.
Unfortunately, if you've installed the HTC RUU, you've also likely been installed a new bootloader which has removed your ability to boot custom recovery images, and so removed your ability to gain root in the future. The MoDaCo ROM does not include the new bootloader (which is not otherwise required).
But all is not lost: apparently you can use a tool called "flashrec" to restore the old bootloader... lots more detail at the MoDaCo site.
Does Backup for Root work then other than missing a few apps?
Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Sounds promising...were you using the latest version? Noticed the dev saying was aware of bugs on latest version, and suggesting may be better to use the old version.
Thanks
Phil
yup, latest version. I think those comments are a rejoinder to some others commenting that it had wiped all their data. I've had no problems, and those comments looked a little unlikely to me.
But a nandroid backup is always a good safety measure, before trying anything
backing up SMS and Email
How can you backup all SMS and email so that you re-install them with all threads correct if you change the ROM?
P!
SMS yes; there are several backup tools around; I used SMS Backup for Root.
email: my email is Gmail-based, so no need to backup, as it's not stored on the phone.
I have my phone rooted and I was under the impression that I'd be able to uninstall some of the crap that came preloaded. Can anyone give me some tips or direct me to a link? Thanks in advance...
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Download Root Explorer (i'm not associated with) and go to System/App to remove a lot of the bloatware that came on the phone. I strongly encourage researching what can & can NOT be removed. ALWAYS make a backup. Here is a good thread about removing the bloat. Remember, I am not responsible. It will be some time before we have a custom ROM that removes this crap for us.
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From here. Tons of useful information in that post
You can also use Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware. It is free from the market. You can also use adb to manually remove the apps via cli.
And here is a list of the apps that I removed.
AccountAndSync.apk/odex -> The app in the drawer, not the settings.
AddToHome.apk/odex
AudioPostcard.apk/odex
Avatar.apk/odex -> The app that launches Avatar in the video player.
BuddiesNow.apk/odex
Dlna.apk/odex [Allshare]
FlashPlugin.apk/odex
GoGo.apk/odex
Infoalarm.apk/odex [Daily Briefing]
KindleStub.apk/odex
Layer-samsung.apk/odex
MediaHub.apk/odex
Memo.apk/odex
Mini Diary.apk/odex
MobiTV.apk/odex
MyAccountStub_4-5-10.apk/odex
Myfiles.apk/odex
Sims3_Samsung_Embed_Launcher.apk/odex
slackerradio.apk/odex
Swype-Tips.apk/odex
Telenav.apk/odex
thinkdroid.apk/odex [ThinkFree Office]
vvm-signed.apk/odex -> T-Mobile Visual Voicemail [can be re-downloaded from the market. for some reason that version is the preferred one.]
VoiceRecorder.apk/odex
VoceDialer.apk/odex
Writeandgo.apk/odex
TouchwizWidgets:
Day.apk/odex
DualClock.apk/odex
SamsungWidget_Calenderclock.apk/odex
SamsungWidget_Feedandupdate.apk/odex
SamsungWidget_stockclock.apk/odex
SamsungWidget_Weatherclock.apk/odex
The link posted by hurrpancakes is an excellent read and should answer most of your questions.
If you already happen to have Titanium Backup (or want to buy it), you can freeze/uninstall the apps with it with a GUI.
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If you already happen to have Titanium Backup (or want to buy it), you can freeze/uninstall the apps with it with a GUI.
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Yes, just make sure you enable chuck norris mode in the settings.
this may help
edit: scroll up to the top of the page, my bad.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...t-software-not-suck/page__p__36615#entry36615
Lost Swype?
Hello
Got my vibrant rooted today and started removing bloatware..but after deleting swype tips it seems that swype is also gone
any help would be appreciated. Really liked swype..
thanks
Did you do a nandroid backup before removing the bloatware?
If you did, you will have to restore your nandroid backup and then start removing bloatware again.
If not, you will have to restore back to original using Odin...
I am not able to post links, but the odin restore method is posted several times throughout the forum if you do a quick search.
Thanks..I'll try odin. I installed slideIT but it seems pretty inaccurate at first
I used the titanium backup method and rid myself of most of the crap on my phone. Thanks for the Info everyone!
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OK...I am new to Android. I have my phone rooted but am wondering how can I uninstall some of the junk that came on the Thunderbird. Stuff like Blockbuster and the Golf app. Also how can I change my boot screen? Any tips would be helpful.
Titanium backup,(suggest pro where u can freeze them) is the easiest way.
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I downloaded Titanium backup and it says i am not rooted. I have ROM manager and superuser in my all apps screen.
I chose to install one of the custom roms that just removed the Verizon apps... Provided link below. Though did have to redo some of the root process after flashing the custom rom, but not a huge hassle. Plus got rid of the bloat thanks to adrynalyne
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
still learning this phone. Not sure if I am ready for that yet I do not even know how to flash to a new rom yet. I used the fast root method that just came out yesterday to gain root to the phone. I know....I am not hard core yet.
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I downloaded Titanium backup and it says i am not rooted. I have ROM manager and superuser in my all apps screen.
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it ti backup there is a option to reinstall busybox. do that and you should be golden.
found busy box that seems to have worked. Do you have to have the paid version to remove apps?
chas1723 said:
found busy box that seems to have worked. Do you have to have the paid version to remove apps?
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free version is ok but pro is better... you can freeze apps first, if it messes something up defrost it and dont uninstall!
Thanks for the help guys. Do you think getting rid of the apps like Blockbuster, Golf, Twitter etc would do any harm?
I deleted mine with TiB, no problems...
now i just have to figure out how to delete them
So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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Thanks for your input, I'll look into it.
the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
Need a Cusotm Kernel
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the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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Thanks! I ended up choosing 'freeze' for now which is good enough for me.
EDIT: Needed a writable kernel to force uninstall talk in order to install the new hangouts. everything went great! installed this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255160
Ok, So I have an AT&T HTC One rooted. I installed Titanium Backup to delete bloatware from my phone. but when i restarted the phone this morning to install a kernel, all the apps I had deleted reloaded themselves, am i doing something wrong, or am i missing a step on how to delete these apps permanently? Thanks for any help in Advance.
droidroid956 said:
Ok, So I have an AT&T HTC One rooted. I installed Titanium Backup to delete bloatware from my phone. but when i restarted the phone this morning to install a kernel, all the apps I had deleted reloaded themselves, am i doing something wrong, or am i missing a step on how to delete these apps permanently? Thanks for any help in Advance.
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A lot of people use Titanium to freeze apps; not sure what's happening if they're coming back.
I, on the other hand, rename the apks in root explorer (change the name to camera.apk.bak, for example). Another viable (and easier) option is to find the app in settings -> app -> all and disable it. With both methods, they can easily be reenabled if the mood strikes you.
The stock kernel has write protection so if you delete apps they come back.
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A lot of people use Titanium to freeze apps; not sure what's happening if they're coming back.
I, on the other hand, rename the apks in root explorer (change the name to camera.apk.bak, for example). Another viable (and easier) option is to find the app in settings -> app -> all and disable it. With both methods, they can easily be reenabled if the mood strikes you.
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Thanks. This helped to get them out of sight.
gunnyman said:
The stock kernel has write protection so if you delete apps they come back.
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Ok thanks gunnyman, ill look for a good rom that is stock and debloated.
MV3D