I am sorry but we won't get android wave, it is not a popular device and people are happy with only bada.
For sure !
Bada is a good OS but Android is even better.
And it is always a pleasure to have a dual boot device and to switch between OS.
I'm outta here. having just got a Sony Ericsson ray which is roughly equivalent in hardware terms I've discovered a wonderful new mobile life where the OS really works.
random lagging totally not present on android 2.3.4. on BADA this is still present and there are even random crashes (insufficient memory). I've seen Android baulk when doing Facebook + Google navigation + music + just pictures. when returning to the home page some icons take a second or two to fill. that's it.
Web browser : woah! at last a browser that properly handles full desktop sites complete with flash. even chatroulette works! oh and it doesn't forget passwords too.
gps : hot lock in under 10 seconds EVERY TIME
cold fix in under 1 minute using agps. around 3 minutes without data. admitted the phone probably has a more recent chipset but then I've seen a Samsung galaxy S work nearly as well, why not the wave!?
navigation : Google navigation built in. perhaps this is a gadget so I tried igo and sygic.. no stuttering whatever. finally a phone with gps that just works without worrying if it has crashed or is still stuttering at the last junction. Why does bada stutter whereas android doesn't and on similar hardware?!
oh the apps! enough said
Customisation on android is unbelievable. hey I think I'll swap out the keyboard for something better, no problem! Samsung please unlock the OS.
and on a final note, I video skyped my family today using the phone. Samsung, unlock voip now or better dump BADA and give the wave a well deserved android rom please.
Thank you and goodbye BADA.
A lesson in how not to do it.
The project has failed because of pig headedness and neglect. People asking the questions they where told not to, leading to developers getting irate and walking away (this however, is something which any developers must face with a grin and bare it so they don't have any excuse either). In my opinion the Wave community don't deserve Android on their devices.
Sorry if I've offended anyone with this but i have been following this section for many months and over that time the above has become painfully obvious to me.
I hope the developers involved go off to be successful with projects on other devices.
All the best.
While the project could've been handled better, I wouldn't say it has failed yet. Rebellos and Oleg are still working on it AFAIK.
Hope to get android rom for Wave soon! Thank you developers! We only use normal phone for Call/Msg features but we need more than that with a smart phone. Bada is not so bad but i think samsung must do so much to improve it, apps, memories manage etc...
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Hope to get android rom for Wave soon! Thank you developers! We only use normal phone for Call/Msg features but we need more than that with a smart phone. Bada is not so bad but i think samsung must do so much to improve it, apps, memories manage etc...
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Trust me on this, they won't, but I've been using it like you, the dual boot isn't much of an inconvinience to me. The only problems I've had are lack of 3G, accelerometer and some apps not working due to Froyo/Filesystem.
I've got round all the other problems ^^
Are you kidding me? We can't reaching Android level because of you and you-like HUMANS. Please stop demotivating us and get the hell out of here...
Yeah i'm looking forward for it patiently ^^
what a silly and useless thread... closing this is the only sensefull thing about stuff like that.... i does not help anyone-.- demotivating developers is the only effect of threads like that
all said. i'm in for android on wave2.
well,
sitting in a chair for 10 hours daily... working on some IT **** is making me suffocate.
BADA has no release of v2.0 for my region and i'm stuck with v1.2.
im just a jughead.. a lazy bastard who wants to have fun with this new toy called S8530.
I hope all the devs round here help each other and do some real cool things with their brains.
all said. i'm in for android on wave2.
It's a shame that this excellent hardware cannot yet run Android complete with modem chip drivers. I am still waiting for android on Bada as I have a number of people around me who like me have been decieved my BADA. If I can help, please feel free to contact me on the forum
p.s. I point out that I'm by no means a dev but I'm capable of flashing firmwares on my GT8500.
no, sold it!
The Wave isn't as good as you think. I hated the pentile screen, the round edges that made it slip out of my hands all the time, the ****ty OS and the small screen.
Bought the HD2 and it is a whole different class. Sorry guys, but the bada phones are literally cheap crap. The OS is at least as important as the hardware. Bada is crap, no matter what you say.
Get an Android smartphone, you'll be much much happier!
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Get an Android smartphone, you'll be much much happier!
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I think that this thread have to be closed, it is not the spirit of xda.
All member sould support all developments as it is the goal of xda.
Also the hardware of the Waves are really good ,and as you said the os is very important, porting android will make of the Waves a wonderful device.
By buying a new device and to tell all the xda community that you think that the Waves phones are crap you just actually said that you are weak (for the xda community).
I can say I've now given up waiting.
I'm tired of the Wave, it's boring me and I can see no Android port coming around anytime soon. I have the resources to buy a new phone, hopefully going to be a Tegra 3 monster.
I will make sure the damned thing does all I want this time!
I respect the work that the people here at XDA are doing, but I think even they know this will never be finished, I guess it's a learning curve.
I tried to get some interest built up and succeeded in some ways, but oh well.
Bada is dead, but wave is superb!
Ok, i want an android phone with basically same specs with wave and in any case hardware call buttons and not touch. I cannot find anything like that!
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Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
Hey guys, So I made an attempt to port 3.2 sdk to nook and i had a minor success with it.
Basically i have used Divine-Madcat's modifications from 3.0 sdk with 3.2 sdk image from Google, and after a very few changes it worked!!
But there are a lot of problems right now, for ex-
It takes a lot of time to load up and screen remains blank unless i use power button,
Display just goes blank randomly but comes back on using power button,
Android seems to take touch input as a mouse input and displays a round pointer,
laggy as hell(sometimes, randomly it goes smooth), probably displays one frame per second, and usually hangs up after a minute of use.
Wifi-not working
sd-card- not working
This is in no way usable right now, but i am posting the zip file anyway, hoping that someone will come out of no-where and help me fix this(thinking of this as an opportunity to learn)
So try it if you are feeling adventurous and want to fix things up.
Format data before u proceed.
DO NOT FORMAT BOOT.
MEDIAFIRE LINK
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for what happens to your nook, if you decide to flash this zip(though it likely won't do any damage).
reserved for future
Good luck to you, kind sir.
Looks good, but not even close to daily driver. Screenies?
None of the SDKs, including my own, are daily drivers. Until we can compile code, they will never be daily drivers.
Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
If you say so.
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If you say so.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
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Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
Progress is progress. At the same time, I'm starting to feel like we're hitting a brick wall without any type of hardware acceleration. The SDK ports themselves usually run next to fine functionality wise, but the lack of hardware acceleration means that virtually all of honeycomb is unstable without massive tweaking.
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
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That isn't too surprising, since the hardware is the same as every other tablet (Tegra2), and most of the acceleration should work without needing a recompile. On the other hand, we have to use the SDK code, which is compiled very generically, and we don't have that luxury.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
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Of course.
I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
arrjaytea -
I could guarantee, with the AOSP code, the nook would be an even neater device. Frankly, assuming we dont lose a dev base, i see great things for our device when ICS hits. As it is, from everything i have heard form our CM7 brethren, CM7's efforts are not for waste; many lessons and fixes learned here will help future efforts..
Assuming el goog keeps their word, the nook is still living the high life.
I really hope the current devs stick around long enough to dev a great ICS rom. I cannot wait for that at all. Finally, a proper HC-"based" rom for it.
In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
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After working a lot more with honeycomb port, i think i am happy that a lot more developers are actually working on cm7 than on honeycomb ports, these ports are a good way to try honeycomb on nook and have a little fun but, i don't think that even if we solve the video drivers issue honeycomb sdk could be used as a daily driver. The problems are just too much and the amount of tweaking it would require to get a good usable rom would not be worth it. Even functionality wise, sdk's have lots of problem. As for when source it released i think we will get at least one more CM port simply because the no of nook owners is just a lot right now.
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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That's the inherent risk involved in adopting the open source model. You have a chance of fragmentation because you have so many manufacturers developing device or brand specific code and you have many developers developing codes specific to their roms, but what some see as fragmentation others see as variety, accessibility, and community driven problem solving. Android is probably on twice as many devices as Apples iOS. In my opinion a little fragmentation is worth the price.
I am disappointed that Google didn't release the source code. Anybody who has the ability to do some crazy like run honeycomb on their G1 phone or any other phone for that matter should be prepared for an experimental experience.
As for manufactures the Chinese putting Donut on their tablets--perhaps would have been easier for them to put Honeycomb on it if Google would have released the source codes. A lot of us are running phone OSes on our tablet albeit most of us are running Gingerbread on our Nook colors, but it would be nice to get a tablet OS like Honeycomb. Ice Cream Sandwich is suppose to be a Q4 release, but we'll see if that still happens. At least their is some hope. Just my humble 2 cents.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/where-did-my-forum-go-3/
This is bad news, I think our ace community is quite large and our ace is still fairly new. Anyways lets just keep on doing what we do best and that is makeing our ace the best it can be, we don't have to be on the main forum.
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umm....there is fairly good amount of activity going around ... and it is definitely not old .... sad :-( ...... but if there is again good amount of activity going on will they put us back on main template ????
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umm....there is fairly good amount of activity going around ... and it is definitely not old .... sad :-( ...... but if there is again good amount of activity going on will they put us back on main template ????
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I don't think so.....
What the freaking f***
Very bad
Anyway i visited main page only once when i came first time on xda
then after always use bookmark so not gonna affect much
Hoping same for development
ya i hope same that you all lovely ace devs wont leave us
Hmmmm we maybe low activity,but its not old enough,we'll be biting the dust on the legacy area
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Any solution to get back ace on home?
I want to see our galaxy ace on main home page Any solution for it??
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I want to see our galaxy ace on main home page Any solution for it??
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Get us a CM9 port, that would boost the activity here
bad news... I don't know what coolya said about definately having an official version, but after that I really doubt it boys. Honestly so far CM7.2 by vo-1 is a very good rom, in my opinion is the most complete and stable and something tells me that it won't get any better than this.
I mean even if we won't get official, our ACE is still one hell of phone with this version of cyanogenmod on. And afterall, it's just a phone!!!!
In my opinion the thing is, all ROM cookers are separately working instead all collecting under the same roof and starting a big project (pointing at MIUI). Most of the phones which have CynogenMod or MIUI are on the main index, bacause? Its because those ROMs are made collectively by many developers at the same time.
It goes like this:
The bigger the project is - the more bugs spawn - more suggestions come - more mods come for them - more fixes - more themes - which ultimately leads to more activity in that particullar forum.
So as a viewpoint from a user, I'd like if all our developers come together no matter how much education he has about Android but they can contribute to the bigger goals. Make an official ROM for our Ace with widest possibilities of modding in it. I think we would gain our position back on the main index.
So what do you guys think?
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In my opinion the thing is, all ROM cookers are separately working instead all collecting under the same roof and starting a big project (pointing at MIUI). Most of the phones which have CynogenMod or MIUI are on the main index, bacause? Its because those ROMs are made collectively by many developers at the same time.
It goes like this:
The bigger the project is - the more bugs spawn - more suggestions come - more mods come for them - more fixes - more themes - which ultimately leads to more activity in that particullar forum.
So as a viewpoint from a user, I'd like if all our developers come together no matter how much education he has about Android but they can contribute to the bigger goals. Make an official ROM for our Ace with widest possibilities of modding in it. I think we would gain our position back on the main index.
So what do you guys think?
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I talk about it exactly as you said in the very recent past and never got an answer for that. I absolutely agree with you.
The bottom line is this... mobile phone market as every electronics market is moving so fast that our ACE is now cosidered an old device. Keeping that in mind along with the fact that ACE happens to be a mid range phone then game is over. So if we haven't got an official CyanogenMod by now that means that will never gonna get one. Actually if we haven't got anything by late January 2012 GAME IS OVER!!!
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I talk about it exactly as you said in the very recent past and never got an answer for that. I absolutely agree with you.
The bottom line is this... mobile phone market as every electronics market is moving so fast that our ACE is now cosidered an old device. Keeping that in mind along with the fact that ACE happens to be a mid range phone then game is over. So if we haven't got an official CyanogenMod by now that means that will never gonna get one. Actually if we haven't got anything by late January 2012 GAME IS OVER!!!
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Copy that. But the device never gets older till it gets updates from the dedicated dev's who constantly develop for it, making those phones accomplish bigger tasks than the newer phones. Samsung Galaxy S is the biggest instance, which's still on the index.
Couldnt care less
Cheers
itasoulas said:
I talk about it exactly as you said in the very recent past and never got an answer for that. I absolutely agree with you.
The bottom line is this... mobile phone market as every electronics market is moving so fast that our ACE is now cosidered an old device. Keeping that in mind along with the fact that ACE happens to be a mid range phone then game is over. So if we haven't got an official CyanogenMod by now that means that will never gonna get one. Actually if we haven't got anything by late January 2012 GAME IS OVER!!!
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What about LG optimus and optimus one and optimus v There are many devices far older than ACE, but the only problem is that Ace was never released in USA and hence we got lesser devs than those devices, hence classified as low activity
Well I dont know about the rest of the world But in the uk ace is very alive. Its still advertised on tv. 3, vodafone and carphone warehouse all use it in there adverts. Before the ace I had my ace I had an iphone and a gt540. Both ipressive devices for the time, but my ace is special. I havent loved a phone like this since my old w550. I love this phone, I adore it. And with the new software coming out its just as fast and stable as the old galaxy s. It not just a phone, its art! All who read this. . . Stop, look at your phone. Give the finger prints a wipe away. Hold it to the light and look. Now tell me its not stunning. Who cares where they put it. We love it!
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jusada said:
Well I dont know about the rest of the world But in the uk ace is very alive. Its still advertised on tv. 3, vodafone and carphone warehouse all use it in there adverts. Before the ace I had my ace I had an iphone and a gt540. Both ipressive devices for the time, but my ace is special. I havent loved a phone like this since my old w550. I love this phone, I adore it. And with the new software coming out its just as fast and stable as the old galaxy s. It not just a phone, its art! All who read this. . . Stop, look at your phone. Give the finger prints a wipe away. Hold it to the light and look. Now tell me its not stunning. Who cares where they put it. We love it!
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+1
Seems that some users feel less of a man (or woman) when their phone is not on the main thread. Couldnt agree with you more. Who cares where the thread is.
Cheers
well said!!
still a fantastic phone with genius devs like yourself releasing roms for it... who cares where the thread is, the ace devs being around is trillion times more important then where the thread is, for me its bookmarked, and even if it aint bookmarked can still find it in the drop-down list so whats the problem?
catapult1234 said:
+1
Seems that some users feel less of a man (or woman) when their phone is not on the main thread. Couldnt agree with you more. Who cares where the thread is.
Cheers
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The whole point is about activity, not the place where we are at the moment. No offence; but with people like your opinion won't even care if the whole board is removed.
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news
If a webos port was made for your Galaxy SII, would you at try it out? Whats everyone's thoughts?
I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
Sure
Would be cool to try WebOS at SGS II =)
I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
ithehappy said:
I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
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Yeah definitely the same here! I'd love to be able to dualboot both OS' on my phone. Plus all the power the GSII is packing compared to that of the touchpad. It would be insane!
mcarans said:
I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
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I see it not so much as a competition, but more as something that would compliment my phone. Primarily android, with webos on the side.
But I agree that it would be cool to try it nonetheless.
I would probably flash it out of curiosity but ultimately ill no doubt always stick with Android unless they do the unthinkable and become "closed" like IOS but i cant see that ever happening.
of course I want it in my phone. Also, could the devs port the code to android to make it faster/better/whatever?
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http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news
If a webos port was made for your Galaxy SII, would you at try it out? Whats everyone's thoughts?
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Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
= What are you even doing asking whether or not you should root your phone on XDA?! =
What we have here is HP finding a cheap way to support it's WebOS devices.
I'd sure as hell try it out. The UI is fantastic and would probably fly on the SGS2. Probably would have to steal some drivers from Android but since they're both linux-based it shouldn't be too difficult.
Although I'm guessing most of the devs are involved with ics at the moment...
Skellyyy said:
Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
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Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
I would LOVE this...i got a Pre on day one and loved WebOS...i would have stayed, but lack of solid hardware and an extremely small dev crew to get things going. if we could even get a WebOS launcher on top of android, that would be amazing!
i truly hope they get this going on our SGSII's.....i'd pay good cash for this!!
EDit - Any dev who decides to take this on, consider my SGSII a test device for you....
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
... Another one. Is open sourcing now the dumping ground for dead projects?
came back from a party some minutes ago and read that webos is now open sorce on pocketnow.
it would really be great to be able to dualboot webos and android on the s2. hope somebody will do this and bring us this great os.
htc9420 said:
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
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i have a touchpad,laggy as hell,specially reading a pdf
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adem_7 said:
Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
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Hi, I don't really know tbh, android just felt like my home that I couldn't leave. Although I really want a WP7 device to give it another try. I feel like it could be good for me, everything I basically need and it just works. Without any distractions. Social integration is a major plus now too, I never really went on social networks when I tried it out, might get another cheap HD2 and have fun with it.
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Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums
Moving to Q&A
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
Are you some sort of idiot....if you have so much to complain about dont buy the damn phone! Dont come on here whining about it! Not really the best place to be comparing the processing power to an iphone is it??
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droidis said:
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
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Here's a bit of advice:
DON'T SPAM THE BOARD,
if you just want to complain about every freakin' ROM, don't do it at all..
test things before posting cr*p like this,
GET STABLE ROMS!!!
WIPE DALVIK BEFORE RUNNING OSs
BUY THIS GOD FOR SAKEN PHONE, GET MIUI AND BE HAPPY!!!
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MIUI, GET CM9 IT'S THE MOST STABLE TO DATE.
By the way: Thanks, you just ruined my evening. Cheers, mate! Have a good day
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
P.S. Reporting thread - Spam
familyguy59 said:
Here's a bit of advice:
DON'T SPAM THE BOARD,
if you just want to complain about every freakin' ROM, don't do it at all..
test things before posting cr*p like this,
GET STABLE ROMS!!!
WIPE DALVIK BEFORE RUNNING OSs
BUY THIS GOD FOR SAKEN PHONE, GET MIUI AND BE HAPPY!!!
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MIUI, GET CM9 IT'S THE MOST STABLE TO DATE.
By the way: Thanks, you just ruined my evening. Cheers, mate! Have a good day
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
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Well said mate! People these days, i cant wait to see everyones response to this moron lol
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I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
droidis said:
Hi all,
I'll eventually buy a S3, that's why I am posting here, but before I do that I want to leave here my questions / complains.
I own a SAMSUNG GT-I9000 running a CyanogenMod 10 nightly build 10-20120918.
I've been using this phone for 2 years and I've tried several ROMS.
My experience with this phone and with this OS is rather disappointing since most of the time the phone is in alpha or beta.
I mean all the ROMS I've tried had bugs (TouchWiz maybe is stable but I do not like it).
For example, I power on my phone and the OS crashes, after some minutes when I manage to get to the home screen I get "Google Search isn't responding. Do you want to close it?". Not to mention that some apps need at least 10 sec to launch.
I really appreciate the effort of the developers but I just don't get it that are appearing ROMS with such severe bugs.
So I've decided to buy a new phone but once again I am between the devil and the deep blue sea.
I've spent some time in shops testing Galaxy S3, HTC One X and IPhone 5 and wondered:
1. How can it be that Galaxy S3 with quad processor on board is performing so bad compared to dual core of IPhone 5? All apps on IPhone are opening almost instantly, not the case on S3. I can clearly see that S3 is not as responsive as IPhone 5 and if you have done the same as I did you cannot deny it.
2. How HTC manages to build such a beautiful OS and Samsung not? TouchWiz looks like is made for kids just like the custom ROMS for it. I know Sense is not perfect but at least is an eye catcher. There is not even one theme for S3 that appeals to me. Or is there someone here who likes to see pink unicorn as logo? If I were 10 years old maybe I would like to have icons with popey, smurfs, heidi and barbie on my phone, but I am not. So the most among you I think...
Maybe can someone can answer these questions...
As I said I ll probably go for the S3 for several reasons but these things really bother me. I'm afraid it 'll be the same story again...Having a super smartphone and not even able to make a phone call...
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The beauty of android lies in the flexibility and customization.
S3 is way better than any Apple
If you like Apple, go and buy it, what are you comparing for?
There are many stable roms for all phones, I use viking, with nova launcher, I am happy.
Everyone has different set of needs and preferences, don't waste your own or others time by convincing others or asking us to convince you.
Be yourself.
droidis said:
I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
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But youre the idiot whos come into the S3 section and done nothing but *****ed about it....your an idiot!!
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droidis said:
I didn't insult anyone and I will not reply on this level. If there are others like speedygay you can leave your comments for yourself don't post at all. If no one is complaining then nothing is going to change.
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Oh, look. You just insulted someone!
Report no. 5 in one day. One more and I'll break my own record.
Oh, and you did just reply..
Please, go spam Rootzwiki, or some other forum, but not this masterpiece..
You are answering with fanaticism just like the Iphone funs. I didn't post to argue with you. If you want you can keep your eyes closed and simply get what they give to you. I like android more as the other OS and I like Samsung phones more as the other phones. I think all the people behind the scenes, in the community or even at Samsung, can do better.
If there are no themes you like, and no roms you like... Instead of "complaining" Why don't you take the time to learn how to theme and customize a rom then you can customize it the way you want? Devs do this for free, you honestly have NO right to complain. Do you pay them? Are they your employees? No.. So you have no right to complain.
If you do not like what the community has to offer you can
1. Leave the community
2. Learn how to do things yourself and stop depending on other people to do things for you especially if you do not like anything that's offered...
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