Hi,
i took a look in the 2 custom rom (artic and FTS) and i can't find any kernel file (system/lib) is it because the bootloader is still locked?
Then i guess CM7 can't be ported without kernel file?
Yes, that's exactly what a locked bootloader entails.
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Ok thank you for the answer.
onslaught86 only answered part of that question.
The bootloader is locked, but that does not mean that CM7 can't be loaded.
You DO NOT need a custom kernel to load CM7. I have loaded CM7 onto 2x DroidX's and 1x Droid2Global that all had locked bootloaders.
There is no one currently working on developing CM7 for the RAZR though, so you probably will never see a port of CM7 for RAZR. What you will see very soon, is a CM9 port onto the RAZR.
CM9 is not "official" yet, so you probably won't see it for about a month at least.
To be honest, the implementation of GB on this phone is good enough, I have rooted my phone, frozen the bloatware with Titanium Back up, and loaded ADW launcher, and I haven't noticed much of a difference between CM7 on my old D2G and my current RAZR load.
Try that out, and you may be surprised. There are a couple of minor differences, no performance enhancements on the clock speed, no auto recovery reboot....etc, but to be honest, this phone is so fast, and with safeboot, I don't know that you really need it.
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Hello all,
I just got the TB about 2 days ago. Its stock. Im not really impressed with it at all. I hate the HTC Sense crap. I have 12 days left if I want to return it and switch. If im going to keep it, I reallly just need to test it out the way I would really use it.
I want to root it and install a custom rom. I've been reading for 2 days and am comfortable rooting it, flashing the rom, radio, and kernel. I just cant use it with this sense crap on it and the battery life sux bad.
If I do root it, and flash the rom, radio, and kernel. How hard is it to go back to 100% undetectable stock (if I return it) I know how to unroot it just by tossing a stock image back on. But what about CWM? I root it with, flash CWM install a rom then do radio and kernal.
To undo it all do I just toss back a stock image? or do i need to find a copy of the stock radio and kernal? are they just in the stock image?
Do you guys think the hardware is better in the ThunderBolt vs the X2? I know the TB has wayyyyy better dev so far.... the X2 is dual core ... but only has 512mb ram.... I only get a stock quadrant of like 1500.... i watch vids on the X2 stock quad scores of like 2500+ and almsot dbl the FPS....
Any info would be awesome....thanks guys!
Full RUU's contain the radio and kernel.
bobhilton6969 said:
Hello all,
I just got the TB about 2 days ago. Its stock. Im not really impressed with it at all. I hate the HTC Sense crap. I have 12 days left if I want to return it and switch. If im going to keep it, I reallly just need to test it out the way I would really use it.
I want to root it and install a custom rom. I've been reading for 2 days and am comfortable rooting it, flashing the rom, radio, and kernel. I just cant use it with this sense crap on it and the battery life sux bad.
If I do root it, and flash the rom, radio, and kernel. How hard is it to go back to 100% undetectable stock (if I return it) I know how to unroot it just by tossing a stock image back on. But what about CWM? I root it with, flash CWM install a rom then do radio and kernal.
To undo it all do I just toss back a stock image? or do i need to find a copy of the stock radio and kernal? are they just in the stock image?
Do you guys think the hardware is better in the ThunderBolt vs the X2? I know the TB has wayyyyy better dev so far.... the X2 is dual core ... but only has 512mb ram.... I only get a stock quadrant of like 1500.... i watch vids on the X2 stock quad scores of like 2500+ and almsot dbl the FPS....
Any info would be awesome....thanks guys!
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Just toss a stock image, yes.
Quadrants don't mean anything.
The x2 has a locked bootloader.
I've seen it lag switching homescreens.
Android Police gave the x2 quite a hammering
Thanks guys.... Maybe I will keep it.... depends how it runs after some work...
I came from the org D1 w/ cm7. A very clean AOSP like feel... I've looked at some ROMS and see that they have CM7 but says its like pre alpha? I also see alot of people using that DAS BAMF one... I looked at pics of that one and wasnt sure on it.
Is there any ROMs that are fairly stable that are just like plain ole android, no sense crap just clean where i can customize it like i did on CM7? Anyone know a good combo with ROM/Radio/Kernel maybe even overclocked a tad.... that works pretty nice on the TB that I could try tonight?
sorry if this is the wrong section for this..... and thx agian for the help
Unfortunately the only AOSP builds we have is the pre-alpha CM7. You can use the BAMF Roms and then flash the de-sense option to it as well to get it close to an AOSP rom but thats about it. I hear people say that CM7 is fairly stable for them tho so maybe its an option for you.
It's a good thing you hate sense because the best Rom I have found (both performance and battery life) is bamf stripped v1.1. It's not an asop Rom but it has most of the sense stripped out with a very light UI, I installed launcher pro and its very fast and smooth
Kinda dont understand why one would buy an htc device knowing it has sense built into the framework only to complain about the sense?
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Kinda dont understand why one would buy an htc device knowing it has sense built into the framework only to complain about the sense?
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He may have learned that he hates sense after he got it. I learned that I hate motoblur after I got my Droid X and I now know that I hate sense (after I got the thunderbolt) lucky for us there are plenty of other launchers to install to get the features and performance we want
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Kinda dont understand why one would buy an htc device knowing it has sense built into the framework only to complain about the sense?
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Well.... I (like most others...i would think) choose a phone based on hardware and performance ..... not software. Not really saying the sense is bad.... just saying its not my style.... just seems to iPhone-ish.... ya dig?
Thanks for the help..... im going in...!
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Kinda dont understand why one would buy an htc device knowing it has sense built into the framework only to complain about the sense?
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Because with the help of communities like XDA we can make mod our phones into the experience that we want I have only owned HTC android phones and I also find sense to be annoying lol.
If you're going to flash a froyo custom rom, I would stick with the stock radio.
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If you're going to flash a froyo custom rom, I would stick with the stock radio.
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I recommend the one with 1.13.605.7 CDMA AND 1.12.605.6 LTE. That one has much faster 3g than stock. The one with updated 1.13.605.7 CDMA/LTE caused reboots for me
I recently moved from an Evo to the Photon. I've used CM7 basically since it came out for the Evo and an very used to the interface and miss the simplicity of it... well, I think I miss the simplicity of it.
Since it has been about a month now I'm kind of itching for the hacking and tinkering that comes with custom ROMs instead of just stock. I'm curious, from those who have moved from Blur to CM7 or CM9 - is it worth it? I know CM9 is alpha and still missing features, which I'm fine with, I just need a little convincing that it's worth it. After 4 Evos I could root, install CWM and a ROM with my eyes closed, so any amount of effort on my Photon seems daunting again.
Once you get past the unlocking part, the rest is a cake walk. I'd recommend starting with CM7 just to get your feet wet again. CM9 is a great ROM (in my opinion) only lacking a camera. But you're going to be hard pressed to find too many people recommending against ROMing. Cm7 and CM9 are both quicker, seem to have better battery, and way less bloat.
Sent from my CWM OC'd CM7 Electrify.
Thanks. And with the Photon to get back to CM I need to unlock the bootloader right? Looks like the Pudding instructions are a one-stop shop for bootloader unlock, then root and getting CWM on. Once CWM is on I'm back into familiar territory.
I've had the pleasure of running both CM7 and CM9 alpha19 - personally, I really like the look and feel of CM9, and joker has done a fantastic job with it, but for my daily driver, I'm on CM7, and it has definitely not disappointed. You should try out both and have fun playing around, but right now CM7 is at a more polished state.
Best,
K
Unlocking break 4g as of now though... so be careful.
All the links for unlocking are broken. We need a new thread with new working links. I would start over from stock and tweak to CM7 till CM9 comes out. Which thread has the better CM7?
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Unlocking break 4g as of now though... so be careful.
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I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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It will recover to stock. Problem is the links provided are broken and I have no patience to look for hopeful working ones.
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I don't have 4G where I live... probably never will since Sprint is transitioning to LTE.
Just curious - does unlocking permanently break 4g or will 4g work if you recover back to stock?
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It will not permanently break it. You just need to flash back to stock or locked ROM such as skinnyROM and you'll be fine.
Cm9
I would have to say to wait until cm9 has a better battery life and more stable but till then just use cm 7.2
OP,
I was in the same boat with the EVO on CM7. this is what id do and am doing...
Flash CM7 and configure it the way you want it. coming from the EVO, youll be blown away by the HP that the Photon has on CM7. be careful and wear a bib bc youll drool some. ha ha After youve enjoyed the CM7, id backup and then flash CM9 and help out with the testing. The more people we have catching issues and sharing tips, the better the project will be.
It only take that few minutes to restore the CM7 image and your back to a solid daily w camera. if you can live wo a camera for now (i personally dont need a phone as a camera) then hangout with CM9 crowd.
Either way, youll LOVE CM on the Photon over the EVO. Welcome to the Photon club!
This thread is making me want to root my Photon
I, too had an EVO that I rooted & loved CM7 on it. This thread is making me want to root the photon now. I know that I will for sure if the Photon doesn't get any ICS love!
You can oc cm7 with jokers kernels but that depends on your hardware. I was able to get 1.4, others could go 1.3. Even if you decide on jokers skinny rom, that has a custom kernel too.
Edit: I just read that you can of cm9. is that true?
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So my question still, Which thread is the CM7 I should use?
So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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Yes. The difference between bloated stock and light CM7 is night and day.
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So my question still, Which thread is the CM7 I should use?
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Cm7.2 Kang rom 1-22
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This might be a silly question, but even with a locked bootloader, why can't we just use the stock bootloader as a bootstrap to launch a stripped-down ROM whose only purpose in life is to act like GRUB/HaRET and boot into our own kernel, then continue booting into our "real" ROM (which depends upon and actually uses the second kernel)? I have to admit that my kernel-level Linux knowledge is pretty minimal, but I was under the impression that on a Linux system, root is God and can do pretty much anything... so why not force a custom runlevel to shut down the stock kernel, then launch and fork into a different one after the fact?
Assuming this is possible, wouldn't it also solve the hard part of our 4G problem, by allowing the radio modem to be initialized with the hidden cert by the stock kernel, then pull the rug out from under it and replace the kernel with our own once it's done its job at startup?
For me there is no compelling reason to choose CM7 versus stock. CM9 would be the way to go if it had camera support.
Hopefully the upcoming Atrix soak test will give the devs the drivers they need to push CM9 to beta.
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So it sounds like really no compelling reason to stay on stock rom except being lazy. Fair interpretation?
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No - those of us who stay stock are not lazy, and there is absolutely no reason to descend into name-calling here.
I stay stock because I'm satisfied with my Photon stock - I will move to custom once ICS camera drivers are available.
Same here, CM7 on EVO was great.
Now that I have CM9 on my HP Touchpad, I am waiting for a stable build for CM9 for the Photon.
Right now I've been happy running the Droid X2's stock Motorola Android 2.3.4 (rooted). That has met my needs (and wants) but only in a "meh" kind of way. After seeing some of the screenshots and user reviews about some alternative Android builds out there, I decided it's time to give one a try. Awhile ago, there were only one or two different ROMs for the X2 so the choices were limited, but simple. Now, I'm seeing some awesome things like CM7 running on the X2.
I'd really like to dual boot, if possible. That way, if the other ROM is crashing too much, or killing the battery, I can switch back when I need to. Is this possible with, say, CM7? I've also heard some good things about Eclipse. Namely stability. Stability isn't the highest priority for me, as long as it works most of the time.
So, what do you think is the best alternative ROM out there for the X2 for someone who is willing to try something unstable but still usable? If it can dual boot (if that's even possible on the X2) with my currently installed stock ROM, that'd be a big plus.
EDIT: I've also been looking into MIUI, but I'm not sure if the nice design is enough to sway me.
There isn't really anything you can do as far as dual booting goes with the x2. What you could do, is create a backup using BSR and then flash between those backups. You'd still need to have a wall charger to change between the two, but it works. it's what I've been doing with MIUI because I still want HDMI mirroring.
Cm7 is very stable and it's what i use. There are only a few things that aren't functioning, but they are minor and won't cause any frustration for most. If you were satisfied with stock blur then you will love cm7. My first choice for blur based roms is eclipse. Very stable, very reliable and an overall great experience.
Dual booting would essentially be nandroiding like skel said. I've run into issues doing this with cm7 though, md5 got messed up but it works for most and has worked for me before.
Enjoy flashing your new roms, it becomes an addiction quickly.
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That's probably what I'll do. Make a backup and start the adventure. Haha.
Just installed CM7. What a beast.
Its incredible isn't it. Like one of the worlds wonders but in electronic form.
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cm7 is indeed a beast. took my phone a few days a wipes to get used to it but im running strong now.
My only concern with it right now is battery performance.
Go to the market and download Battery Calibration. Once downloaded charge all the way to 100% and run the app. I was on Eclipse and now run CM7 and will never look back. It's way faster and my battery life is great.
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
Getting fairly good battery on this ROM too. Pleasantly surprised.
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I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
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Eclipse works fine for me on 2.3.4 not much of anything really changed from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 basically the same thing
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I have spent countless hours setting up my Atrix and am a little nervous about the upgrade to ICS. Here are my concerns:
1. As far as speed and resources will the phone's performance be better or worse with ICS?
2. I realize that once updated with OTA there is no going back. Right now I am only rooted and can hide the root when ICS OTA arrives if necessary. I understand that you must unlock the bootloader to do a nandroid backup? and once that is done it is irreversible and then you cannot do the OTA update? I do not want to use any other ROMs. So you cannot do a nandroid (or full rom) backup and still get the ICS OTA upgrade...is that correct? Likewise is it correct that if for some reason I do not like te ICS upgrade there is no way to go back to gingerbread?
My Atrix preforms reasonably well. So I have good reason to back it up and also have reason to want the ICS upgrade. I use Launcher Pro and i assume I will have to find another launcher (one that lets me up the resolution) and then reset up all the circlelauncher icons and widgets since Launcher Pro does not work with ICS.
Any info and comments appreciated!
thanks
We wont know for sure about its performance until it's out, but in theory it should be faster. One of ICS's under-the-hood features is system wide GPU hardware acceleration which should result in a huge increase in UI smoothness (think scrolling in lists or zooming in the browser). If CM9 on the Atrix is any indication, it should still be plenty fast.
As far as nandroid backups, yes, you need to unlock your bootloader. And once you do, it's unwise to run an OTA because you run the risk of a hard brick. You can still get updates though, in the form of fruitcakes. Fruitcakes are clockworkmod flashable versions of official OTAs and are availible in the dev section, it shouldnt take long after the OTA is out for a fruitcake to be made from it.
For ICS launchers, check out Apex and Nova. Both are pretty good.
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You won't want to go back to gingerbread after trying ICS, believe me. Apex launcher is a good one for ICS. Others like Xperia launcher.
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yes!
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You won't want to go back to gingerbread after trying ICS, believe me. Apex launcher is a good one for ICS. Others like Xperia launcher.
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Very interesting guys. I am seriously looking at the Galaxy S3 with its 2 gigs of ram and big screen. Not sure what to do but i may wait to see what ICS does for the Atrix and I never buy anything without holding it first . Anyway thanks for this info. I'll check out those launchers too.
By the way as far as other phones, I am just looking. The Atrix really serves me well.
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By the way as far as other phones, I am just looking. The Atrix really serves me well.
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yeah, in my opinion the Atrix 4g still holds it's own very well!
Launcher Pro with ICS
That's interesting that Launcher Pro works with ICS especially since it hasn't been updated in a very long time. Hopefully, the resizing (resolution) function also works?? I run my screens at 6 x 6 icons so the launcher's ability to adjust the resolution within ICS is my primary concern. Hopefully ICS upgrade will be upon us very soon.
Hi, While I'm new to flashing ROM's and modding my Atrix. I decided to flash an ICS rom. AOKPCB (Minus the CB theming I love it.). I'm not sure Motoblurified ICS is worth much.
Best bet: Root, Unlock & Flash an ICS rom (after heavy research).
Hope this helps!
This ICS rom so far has outperformed anything I've used prior.....keeping in mind I believe it is still in beta.
So far ive been running CM9 and its alot smoother although there are minor glitches and some times it reboots and apps force close but dragonkiller also leaves dev tools installed has anyone heard if the kernel has been updated
The kernel cannot be updated because Moto and Verizon lock the bootloader.
dragonkiller is working on a kernel bypass
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The kernel cannot be updated because Moto and Verizon lock the bootloader.
dragonkiller is working on a kernel bypass
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Thanks im still very new to this
I have a Fascinate which is 2 years old. It runs ICS very smoothly. Of course I can flash a custom kernel, then tweak the kernel to my liking. It's sad for the X2 we cannot. It makes the life of our developers much harder in getting things to run smoooooth.
Both my fascinate and my X2 have the same ram..not a ram issue, it's just the damn bootloader that is locked.
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DROID DOES, Apple did...like I forgot when
I was running CM9 on my Droid X until it crapped out on me yesterday and Verizon is sending me a X2. I believe the X had a locked bootloader also and it ran CM9 very well.
Since I can't post in the thread I want to cause I don't have 10 posts yet I am wondering a couple things about getting CM9 on the X2 when it arrives. The OP for CM9 Alpha5 is sort of misleading... I have flashed a ton of roms on my X but the X2 seems like there is an extra step or two. Will I need to be on 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 before flashing CM9? I already downloaded BSR for X2, I see something about a patched BSR for CM9; will I need this if I coming from Gingerbread or just the BSR?