[Q] NTFS format on my MicroSD - Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just bought a new 32GB MicroSD HC card for my streak.... tried formatting it NTFS so I can transfer large files when I need to.... but it didnt work after I transferred my files from my old card...
I formatted FAT32 and tried again and it worked fine.
Is this common? I'm using the newest DSC ROM. Should I be able to have it formatted NTFS and have it work?
Thanks

Android supports ext2/3/4, vfat (fat16/32) and reiserfs, no ntfs

I'm pretty sure we enabled NTFS with read/write support in latest Phoenix kernel.
Will check config tomorrow.

FYI, im no pro... I just flashed using the instructions given in the first posting in the DSC thread on the development forums...
So if I need to do something extra please let me know... Thanks for your help.

_n0p_ said:
I'm pretty sure we enabled NTFS with read/write support in latest Phoenix kernel.
Will check config tomorrow.
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Oh it had NTFS added in? As OP didnt say which rom/kernel he was on I just assumed. The stock kerns dont support it and I dont run anything but stock kerns.

Bortseb said:
FYI, im no pro... I just flashed using the instructions given in the first posting in the DSC thread on the development forums...
So if I need to do something extra please let me know... Thanks for your help.
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Would you test this kernel?
It has NTFS support for sure, dunno if other restrictions may apply.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21083221&postcount=2079

Doesn't work. My kernel is 2.6.35.14-DSC-Team-Pheonix+ in the about area...
But I get a notification saying : "SD Card Blank or has unsupported file system"

Most probably Android applies restrictions on higher level.
NTFS support is built in kernel, and I plan to check it when I receive otg cable.

TheManii said:
Oh it had NTFS added in? As OP didnt say which rom/kernel he was on I just assumed. The stock kerns dont support it and I dont run anything but stock kerns.
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@TheManii... I'm just curious as to why you only run stock kernel?

I dont have any need for a custom kernel currently, simple as that

Any update on the status of NTSF support with the phoenix kernel?

n0p, the man behind DSC and the maintainer of the Phoenix kernel, is away for a couple weeks vacation.

Verified NTFS support on DSC 1.7
_n0p_ said:
Most probably Android applies restrictions on higher level.
NTFS support is built in kernel, and I plan to check it when I receive otg cable.
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I have Dell Streak with DSC 1.7 installed with Phoenix full kernel.
I have tested FAT, FAT32 and NTFS formatted USB drives and Micro SD cards using OTG Cable.
I have found that we have Read/Write access for FAT and FAT32 file systems while only Read access for NTFS file system.
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Mounting EXT (EXT2-4) and NTFS Filesystems through OTG

I haven't received my SGS2 yet, but I saw some reports saying, that the galaxy s II can handle external drives if formatted to FAT32.
However, it doesn't recognize EXT2/3/4 and NTFS.
The question is what modifications are to be done (kernel drivers, etc) for mounting an EXT or NTFS drive? The kernel supposed to be capable to handle EXT, because the system sits on an EXT4 partition.
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Good question, since FAT32 has it's size limits for files (big video file).
ludow said:
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Good question, since FAT32 has it's size limits for files (big video file).
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Exactly, this is one important motive. Another is the capability to manipulate files on an external hard drive.
I know, ntfs is tricky, but ext would do the job as well, just need a linux live CD or a driver for win7.
According to the Modaco forum (http://android.modaco.com/content/s...316579/format-type-for-external-microsd-ntfs/ )
it is possible to format a memory card with Busybox to ext2.
In the i9000 forum, one reportedly tried it with SGS but ran into issues.. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799054)
I don't know if it works on the galaxy s II...
tamas970 said:
Exactly, this is one important motive. Another is the capability to manipulate files on an external hard drive.
I know, ntfs is tricky, but ext would do the job as well, just need a linux live CD or a driver for win7.
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Linux can handle ntfs quite nicel ever since the ntfs-3g driver was released in 2006; I don't know how to get it working in android though, does android have udev rules?
godutch said:
Linux can handle ntfs quite nicel ever since the ntfs-3g driver was released in 2006; I don't know how to get it working in android though, does android have udev rules?
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Indeed Android is a linux variant, however the ntfs support is not built in, the kernel is chopped quite a bit. I would be fine with ext2/3/4, but these have to be hacked as well
BTW, does anyone know if Busybox is working on SGS-2?
Ntfs-3g is a userspace driver it is not included in the kernel, it needs fuse however.
So NTFS won't work without a new (bigger...) kernel?
NTFS would be nicest, as it plays well with both Win and Linux.
Formatting a memory card to ext is easy from any Linux box, however ext was not designed to be used on memory cards (something about cluster sizes and write access frequencies; a buddy of mine strongly advised against it as it would kill my SD card much faster because of significantly higher random writes using ext).
Also, afaik there is no (usable) ext driver for Windows. I installed a ext2 driver a long time ago, and it made my system almost unusable and was unable to read the ext filesystem I wanted it to read.
Likely the easier way is to get ntfs-3g support running, but we'll see.
I would be fine with ext2 and use a liveCD when moving data. compiling ntfs-3g is probably not healthy for the android kernel...
EXT3-4 are not that good for flash, because they involve much more writing (jurnal, etc) than ext2/fat/ntfs. Therefore ext2 seems to be the only reasonable solution for memory cards/SSD-s or ext3/4 for external HDD.
The question is how to make an ext2 formatted external HDD work with SGS-2? (OTG cable and powered usb hub given)
Ciddy said:
Also, afaik there is no (usable) ext driver for Windows. I installed a ext2 driver a long time ago, and it made my system almost unusable and was unable to read the ext filesystem I wanted it to read..
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Check this out: http://www.ext2fsd.com/.
Works flawlessly on my Windows 7 Professional x64.
m0rtiis said:
Check this out: http://www.ext2fsd.com/.
Works flawlessly on my Windows 7 Professional x64.
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Now we only have to convince the Android sitting on SGS-2 to eat the EXT2 media
Which powered usb hub?
Does anyone know about restrictions on which powered USB hubs can be used?
I am planning to buy a powered USB 3.0 hub (backwards compatible), should it work with SGS-2's OTG?
m0rtiis said:
Check this out: http://www.ext2fsd.com/.
Works flawlessly on my Windows 7 Professional x64.
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I don't see, that It's capable to CREATE or format EXT2 partitions, so that linux live CD is still needed.
tamas970 said:
I don't see, that It's capable to CREATE or format EXT2 partitions, so that linux live CD is still needed.
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It isn't, that wasn't what I said. It was really off topic, but it works well if you want to read ext2 on Windows.
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tamas970 said:
I don't see, that It's capable to CREATE or format EXT2 partitions, so that linux live CD is still needed.
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This can also be done using fdisk if you have Busybox with either ADB or a terminal emulator right?
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MaBlo said:
This can also be done using fdisk if you have Busybox with either ADB or a terminal emulator right?
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Indeed, you can use mke2fs on phone directly.
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I tried ext2, created with gparted/ubuntu->the phone (stock ROM, no root, no busybox) does not recognize it. Next step is rooting+busybox...
tamas970 said:
I tried ext2, created with gparted/ubuntu->the phone (stock ROM, no root, no busybox) does not recognize it. Next step is rooting+busybox...
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Did you actually create the file system or did you just create a partition?
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m0rtiis said:
Did you actually create the file system or did you just create a partition?
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I created the file system as well (linux had no problems reading/writing) and there were no other partitions on the card.

[Q] How do i change my external sdcard to ext2?

Hi, I recently bought a 32gb sdcard, but then i saw its FAT32 and
there is a size limitation of 4gb...
So i googled a bit, and i found out i can convert my sdcard to ext2,
How do I do it?
Thanks
Im using CheckROMV4!
99nirc99 said:
Hi, I recently bought a 32gb sdcard, but then i saw its FAT32 and
there is a size limitation of 4gb...
So i googled a bit, and i found out i can convert my sdcard to ext2,
How do I do it?
Thanks
Im using CheckROMV4!
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oh please... get a partition creator software (google them there are plenty about) and do it through there.
Remember google is your friend.. this isnt really an SGS2 related question TBH.
I thought i had to find out if thers something i have to know
about sgs2 and the ext2 thing, Checkrom compability and stuff...
but thanks ill go google it...
99nirc99 said:
I thought i had to find out if thers something i have to know
about sgs2 and the ext2 thing, Checkrom compability and stuff...
but thanks ill go google it...
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Question posted multiple times before a search of XDA may find the solution .
jje
I formated it with first software that came up after the google search,
but the galaxy s 2 says that the file system is not supported...
is there anything else i need to do to make it work?
Plesae help me i couldnt find anything!
I really need help here guys, I bought the sdcard
for putting hd films on it, and splitting them is not an option
because I use subtitles from a file and they are not together
with the mkv file...
It went to like page 5
What i think you need is link2sd from the market and dual partition the sdcard.
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Which ROM are you in? Maybe you're ROM can't mount SD Card as ext2. You could also try exFAT.
I'm using Checkrom Revolution v4...
Using another program to format it will work?
99nirc99 said:
I'm using Checkrom Revolution v4...
Using another program to format it will work?
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You can create multiple partitions on your external SD card formatted with ext2/3/4 or NTFS (together with Siyah kernel and ntfs-3g) or FAT32. Use your PC and a partition manager or fdisk/mkfs on your rooted phone.
But you have to mount the partitions manually or you need special support from the kernel (via ueventd). If you want to replace the external FAT32 partition completely with another filesystem for use with the ROM as media partition you need a compatible mount manager (vold daemon). The vold version 2 in stock ROMs only supports FAT32. I guess there is no difference with Checkrom Revolution. As far as I know only CM 7 has support for a (read only) NTFS partition and extX.
Changing a kernel would make it work on CheckRom Revolution?
if so, is there any recomended kernel?
I am wondering the same thing. I am using the stock Samsung kernel...

[Q] [RESOLVED - switched to NTFS] exFAT driver for Galaxy Note - what are the odds?

Hi,
Not sure if developers even look at threads in this section, but what a hell...
So, what are the chances that one of our great developers could port Samsung's exFAT driver from SGS III to SG Note?
I'm using 64GB Sandisk microSDXC card on my Note and I admit that I'm jealous that SGS III users can write 4GB+ files on those cards...
Supercurio, designgears, Da_G, DAGr8... If you see this thread, are Note users out of luck...? :-(
Thank you!
ah man, that would be so awesome! I hate having to split my HD movie files for my sd card on the note
Why do we need exfat? Ntfs is now fully supported, go check news section.
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I'd much rather see NTFS and ext3 support than exFAT. We need to use good filesystems that are already common, not new ones that Microsoft comes up with because they don't like cooperating with existing standards. I haven't heard about NTFS support (as a CM user, so if it is a change to the stock ROM I don't know). There have been attempts to add NTFS/ext3 support to Vold (Volume Daemon, the process responsible for handling SD card, internal memory, and USB drive connections and mount points) but none have been merged into CM/AOSP/AOKP.
NTFS is supported now on the Note? Im guessing it involves altering the phone to accept this file system because i tried just changing the format on the external SD and it didn't read it.
Eun-Hjzjined said:
Why do we need exfat? Ntfs is now fully supported, go check news section.
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Thanks for heads up!
seff5677 said:
NTFS is supported now on the Note? Im guessing it involves altering the phone to accept this file system because i tried just changing the format on the external SD and it didn't read it.
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Yes, you need it rooted and depending on the ROM used, you may get lucky and half of the work can be already done. I got in up and running after some initial headaches - read up in shardul_seth's thread - Full NTFS Read Write support for Android (ARM)

[Q] Ext SD card not being seen

Hey guys
I recently switched my 16gig SanDisk Class 4 card from my Atrix to the S3.
The problem I have is that in the storage settings I can't mount the card, the option is greyed out.
I have used an adaptor to check it works and can be formatted on my laptop and it works fine, it's just my phone doesn't seem to know I have it installed.
I've never had this issue before so all help will be appreciated.
Regards
Paul
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736926
wgizmo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736926
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Thanks for the link but I have a different issue to that guy.
My card isn't recognised by my phone or laptop when I plug my phone in.
If I put the SD card into a separate adaptor and plug into the laptop it sees it but it's just that my phone doesn't.
Paul
PAULO76 said:
Thanks for the link but I have a different issue to that guy.
My card isn't recognised by my phone or laptop when I plug my phone in.
If I put the SD card into a separate adaptor and plug into the laptop it sees it but it's just that my phone doesn't.
Paul
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What ROM, What Kernel ? If AOKP/AOSP are you using exFat fix ?
fOmey said:
What ROM, What Kernel ? If AOKP/AOSP are you using exFat fix ?
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Omega 5.1 XXALF2 with Siyah v1.0.1 kernel.
Haven't heard of that fat fix you mentioned to be honest
Paul
PAULO76 said:
Omega 5.1 XXALF2 with Siyah v1.0.1 kernel.
Haven't heard of that fat fix you mentioned to be honest
Paul
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Get the latest 1.2.6 siyah kernel. I believe it includes the exfat stuff.
From change log
"fixed autoloading of exfat modules for cm9 (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4). you can use*vold-exfat.zip*(CWM flashable vold from samsung roms) to use exfat on cm9 (use at your own risk)"
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PAULO76 said:
Omega 5.1 XXALF2 with Siyah v1.0.1 kernel.
Haven't heard of that fat fix you mentioned to be honest
Paul
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Stock firmware plays nice with exFat, What I suggest doing is backing up the content to your PC.. then doing a format on your PC making sure exFat is selected.
The fix I had mentioned is for AOSP/CM9/AOKP roms which dont support exFat out of the box.. yet. The link which ciscostud had posted is that exact fix.
Im currently using foxhound with siyah, my 64gb card works perfectly fine.. in saying that I believe it worked with stock CF kernel also.
Perhaps by using it on your previous phone it had changed the microsd filesystem too some other than exFat.
You should be in the clear, Post back your results.
Thanks guys I'll give these solutions a try and let you know.
Paul
fOmey said:
Stock firmware plays nice with exFat, What I suggest doing is backing up the content to your PC.. then doing a format on your PC making sure exFat is selected.
The fix I had mentioned is for AOSP/CM9/AOKP roms which dont support exFat out of the box.. yet. The link which ciscostud had posted is that exact fix.
Im currently using foxhound with siyah, my 64gb card works perfectly fine.. in saying that I believe it worked with stock CF kernel also.
Perhaps by using it on your previous phone it had changed the microsd filesystem too some other than exFat.
You should be in the clear, Post back your results.
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I tried flashing the kernel and the vold fix and the S3 still doesn't recognise the card even tho I've formatted it a few times.. It's definitely getting formatted on my laptop as exFat as well.
Paul
Does anyone still have a copy of the vold-exfat.zip file? I can't find it anywhere and I've been looking for the past 30 minutes too on Google, etc.... Thanks in advance!
Yes have been searching the net, and it seems the file has been removed off Siyah's site as well.

Androwook/data2sd question

What happens to the crappy internal memory when you choose the data2sd option? Is it still accessible for storing files / movies / pictures etc. Or does the microsd card become the only storage option?
you will be able to access it under /data1/
Tempie007 said:
you will be able to access it under /data1/
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It doesn't become data1, I made it become InternalSD.
There is a flashable file in post 2 of the androwook thread that will make that folder available from the sdcard.
flumpster said:
It doesn't become data1, I made it become InternalSD.
There is a flashable file in post 2 of the androwook thread that will make that folder available from the sdcard.
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Thanks... I should learn to keep reading. Using that flash able file worked out well.
And I also learned a lesson about not ejecting the microsd card while the system is running. Curiosity got the best of me.
flumpster said:
It doesn't become data1, I made it become InternalSD.
There is a flashable file in post 2 of the androwook thread that will make that folder available from the sdcard.
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Well, it still becomes /data1/ when you choose the data2sd option.
i didnt know about that zipfile , sounds good to have it mounted on a better accessible place. maybe include that in the rom itself?
thx !
Tempie007 said:
Well, it still becomes /data1/ when you choose the data2sd option.
i didnt know about that zipfile , sounds good to have it mounted on a better accessible place. maybe include that in the rom itself?
thx !
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It really doesn't mate. I made the data2sd kernel and I should know what I named it lol
If it really did get renamed to data1 the script I also created in post 2 would not work
flumpster said:
It really doesn't mate. I made the data2sd kernel and I should know what I named it lol
If it really did get renamed to data1 the script I also created in post 2 would not work
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Not in my case.
Hairybean 1.51, with the included stock kernel with data2sd
See attachments.
Tempie007 said:
Not in my case.
Hairybean 1.51, with the included stock kernel with data2sd
See attachments.
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You know, that is the only option that I never tested. If that is showing data1 that is a very old one I made and should not have been included in 1.51. Wook must have added it by accident.
The script in post 2 to mount the folder into sdcard will definitely not work for you.
Any reason you're not using the clemsyns one with data2sd? Without that you are missing out on fsync, init.d and other speed improvements.
flumpster said:
You know, that is the only option that I never tested. If that is showing data1 that is a very old one I made and should not have been included in 1.51. Wook must have added it by accident.
The script in post 2 to mount the folder into sdcard will definitely not work for you.
Any reason you're not using the clemsyns one with data2sd? Without that you are missing out on fsync, init.d and other speed improvements.
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Yea it used to be like this in the old versions too.
I choose the stock kernel because of stability, have seen weird things happening with older custom kernels on this device, i think mostly due to overclocking and undervolting.
Is clemsyns kernel stable? No SOD, no instant reboots etc?
Tempie007 said:
Yea it used to be like this in the old versions too.
I choose the stock kernel because of stability, have seen weird things happening with older custom kernels on this device, i think mostly due to overclocking and undervolting.
Is clemsyns kernel stable? No SOD, no instant reboots etc?
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We all use Clems kernel. I use it now without data2sd but I also used it with data2sd for ages before while testing and I know 1 or 2 of the team members still do and we have never encountered any problems with it at all.
Sorry for doubting you earlier mate, glad you brought it up really so I will know to swap it out on the next release.
Weird how no one else has brought this up sooner but I guess everyone else who is using data2sd is using the clems version.
flumpster said:
We all use Clems kernel. I use it now without data2sd but I also used it with data2sd for ages before while testing and I know 1 or 2 of the team members still do and we have never encountered any problems with it at all.
Sorry for doubting you earlier mate, glad you brought it up really so I will know to swap it out on the next release.
Weird how no one else has brought this up sooner but I guess everyone else who is using data2sd is using the clems version.
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Ok sounds very good, going to flash it tomorrow with the additional zip in post2.
No worries, your work is appreciated.
Really happy with this ROM! :thumbup:
flumpster said:
We all use Clems kernel. I use it now without data2sd but I also used it with data2sd for ages before while testing and I know 1 or 2 of the team members still do and we have never encountered any problems with it at all.
Sorry for doubting you earlier mate, glad you brought it up really so I will know to swap it out on the next release.
Weird how no one else has brought this up sooner but I guess everyone else who is using data2sd is using the clems version.
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Does the clemsyn kernel make everything smooth even without data2sd? I was curious as to why you don't use data2sd still.
Thanks for your amazing work .
laggyprime said:
Does the clemsyn kernel make everything smooth even without data2sd? I was curious as to why you don't use data2sd still.
Thanks for your amazing work .
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if you have never used data2sd with clemsyns kernel you will find the clemsyn kernel used with one of the two stock roms is the fastest your prime has ever been. with data2sd it is still slightly better. but not enough to warrant the purchase of an microsd card. In fact I will not even test non stock roms right now because this kernel is only available for stock roms and its way to big a performance hit to use another kernel.
noob question
hi this is my first post ever on xda, so i have some noob questions sorry, ive looked and havent been able to find anything concrete. i installed hairy bean 1.5 with clemsyn elite 1.7 kernel, but id like to try the clemsyn data2sd kernel instead because of the i/o issues, i havea 32gb class 10 micro sd, ive read that its a good idea to partition the majority of the card in etx4 is this true, im not sure how to properly partition for this rom, if someone could give me a recomendation that would be awesome, and from what ive understood so far if i install clemsyn data2sd kernel i would not have issues with accessing the internal storage of prime right?
gastonwalpole said:
hi this is my first post ever on xda, so i have some noob questions sorry, ive looked and havent been able to find anything concrete. i installed hairy bean 1.5 with clemsyn elite 1.7 kernel, but id like to try the clemsyn data2sd kernel instead because of the i/o issues, i havea 32gb class 10 micro sd, ive read that its a good idea to partition the majority of the card in etx4 is this true, im not sure how to properly partition for this rom, if someone could give me a recomendation that would be awesome, and from what ive understood so far if i install clemsyn data2sd kernel i would not have issues with accessing the internal storage of prime right?
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You can use Gpart (linux) by running live cd or you can download minitool http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html you need a fat32 partiton first then the rest ext4. For the fat32 I suggest using a cluster size of 16k I have tried lower with poor results. Depending on what you plan on using the windows partition for will determine the size. You can go any where from 1 gb and up, just know that when you connect to the sdcard on a windows machine you will only se the fat32 part so if you plan on transfering files make the partition big enough to handle that.
And what is on the EXT4 partition ? System and other folders which is on internal storege??
thx
saifon said:
And what is on the EXT4 partition ? System and other folders which is on internal storege??
thx
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The only thing on the ext4 partition is the entire contents of /data
So basically the FAT32 partition is for media (music, picts and movies) and the EXT4 for the system to install app and what it needs to work? Is that right?
TBagwell said:
So basically the FAT32 partition is for media (music, picts and movies) and the EXT4 for the system to install app and what it needs to work? Is that right?
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The fat partition is the External SD space. The ext partition becomes the entire /data folder from android which also includes the Internal SD.

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