I'm considering purchasing a Player 4.0 or 5.0 (Very likely a 5.0), partly as a bit of a hacktoy since there are no custom kernels for it. However I am curious how many users there are of the particular variants, since this forum covers AT LEAST four different devices: 4.0 US and International, and 5.0 US and International.
As a resident of the States, I'd be getting a U.S. variant, which is why this poll might be a bit U.S. biased by possibly lumping multiple international variants together. As i understand it, only one of the International variants has a custom kernel series going for it.
So - which version do people own?
I have the 4.0 US but apparently the majority of people have the International versions because it seems that the little development going on is for them
I have the 4.0 US version as well. It would be so sweet to finally have a developer for our device!
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I have the 4.0 US but apparently the majority of people have the International versions because it seems that the little development going on is for them
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I think it's partly because the international versions have been around MUCH longer, and they're not being marketed in the US much at all.
I've got the US 5.0 and love it. I rooted with SuperOneClick, used Tegrak to overclock just slightly to 1.1 from 1 to smooth out Netflix (audio didn't sync with video at stock speed, does now). I don't really miss not having custom ROMs to experiment with but I've got a rooted Nook Color and several older Android phones for that.
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So, just for clarity, the differences between the devices are?:
Galaxy S Wifi 4.0 = YP-GB1 (and presumably also the YP-G1?)
Galaxy S Wifi 5.0 = YP-G70 and YP-GB70 (my UK version with a physical home key is a YP-G70CW, so is the YP-GB70 the US version with all capacitive keys)
Galaxy Player 50 (3.2" screen) = YP-GB50
US versions have all capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Does that hold for both the 4.0 and 5.0?
International versions have a single physical home key between the two capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Again is that true for the 4.0 as well as my 5.0?
My understanding is that there's also a Korean version which has a mini-hdmi out port, no idea what the product code is for that nor what the keys are like.
If you look at the opensource.samsung.com website under "Mobile > MP3 Player & Etc." is shows a choice of product codes to choose from.
lardman said:
So, just for clarity, the differences between the devices are?:
Galaxy S Wifi 4.0 = YP-GB1 (and presumably also the YP-G1?)
Galaxy S Wifi 5.0 = YP-G70 and YP-GB70 (my UK version with a physical home key is a YP-G70CW, so is the YP-GB70 the US version with all capacitive keys)
Galaxy Player 50 (3.2" screen) = YP-GB50
US versions have all capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Does that hold for both the 4.0 and 5.0?
International versions have a single physical home key between the two capacitive keys at the bottom of the screen, no hdmi out. Again is that true for the 4.0 as well as my 5.0?
My understanding is that there's also a Korean version which has a mini-hdmi out port, no idea what the product code is for that nor what the keys are like.
If you look at the opensource.samsung.com website under "Mobile > MP3 Player & Etc." is shows a choice of product codes to choose from.
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Actually, YP-GB1 and YP-GB70 are the korean versions of the players, which have an antenna and hdmi out. If you look here, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mp3-players, the galaxy player 4.0 is YP-G1CWY and the 5.0 is YP-G70C.
Using the international YP-G70 version
Probably going for the 5.0 due to personal preference.
For the US-based players, there is a single source tree download for both devices.
In addition, the source tree has defconfigs for international variants. Supporting International devices may be a simple defconfig change, just like I9100 vs I777. It may even be possible to build Korean kernels from the source.
The US 5.0 will, of course be the only one tested. I need to consider my strategy with regards to blind development.
Bought a 5.0,let the hacking begin!
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Got the US 5.0 and bought one for my son as well. I bought his a couple of days after Xmas and Best Buy was sold out of them in three different stores - bought the last one at the fourth store. So it must be a fair sales performer.
It sure would be nice to get some ROM's for this. CyanogenMod would be great.
AOSP bringups are tough - although a deodex job shouldn't be hard.
I'm more of a hardware/kernel guy than a userspace guy. Even extended power menu mods aren't easy for me.
Turns out the US 5.0 variant has the MC1N2, not the WM8994.
Actually, looks like both 5.0 variants...
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Turns out the US 5.0 variant has the MC1N2, not the WM8994.
Actually, looks like both 5.0 variants...
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It was a big let down for me to find out that it has a Yamaha DAC instead of the Wolfson. The only possible tweak seems to be a fix called Voodoo LOUDER fix by supercurio, but the fix is not ported to Galaxy Player yet.
Voodoo LOUDER only gets you 6 dB volume.
Considering that with my earbuds, half volume on media player + half volume of the earbud volume control is damn loud, no real need for that.
I have an international G70CW/XAZ version (for Brazil).
YP-G70CW/WON in Peru
The one I got off the US website Woot.com is a an international YP-G70CW/TTT
I fully bricked it. It's soft bricked now due to Android booting errors and I can't find an original Froyo 2.2.2 pit file to back track out of the bad GB update. The rom offered in one thread does not repartition successfully in Odin so I assume the file is not there.
I'm looking to manually fix the offending partitions if I could figure out what they were.
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Bought a 5.0,let the hacking begin!
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My week just got a bit better. Soooo much more development is going on for this player! You made an excellent choice. I am looking forward to more of your work. I never realized you didn't even have a player. I use your kernel, and enjoy it quite a bit. Thank you for all of your work and am looking forward to more.
Wow just saw how old this post is... Well thank you for tour kernel lol
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I have an international G70CW/XAZ version (for Brazil).
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Same here, bro.
PS: Except for the fact that mine is bricked.
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So, do you think samsung will ever update these devices to ice cream sandwich? Would anyone care enough to try to make a port? I don't have this device yet but I plan to get the 5 inch one for christmas and no ice cream sandwich won't stop me from getting it but I was just curious. Thanks!
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
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I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
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Actually, on my side, it doesn't look off at all...
I hope someone makes a port for this right now I'm using a Ice Cream Launcher instead of the built in Launcher.
Not to get off the topic too much...but does anyone know specific time frame Sammy will update the players so we can access Media Hub?
last i read there would be an "update in the future"....boo!
Curious, I don't have a Samsung TV (but may buy one soon), how is "Media Hub" different than "Smart View" (that's on these players)?
ICS?
I hope someone makes a port for this right now. Anyone had news?
5" with ICS ..
I bought one and this is very great but ICS is cooool...
Samsung G.Wifi + 1ghz + 5" + ICS.. =
Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The YP series existed a long time ago as YEPP (young, energetic, passionate, person)because it is the model code for the mp3 players for samsung. it is not obligated to be a young audience. Take the samsung p3 for exemple (YP-P3) which is released in 2007 or 2008 (way before the article.) I think they will maybe release it if they release it to the original galaxy s (they have the same hardware capabilities.)Otherwise we can always wait for some custom roms. (CM9 ) And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
media hub is the acess point for movies, tv shows, etc for samsung mobile devices...i have several movies and shows i would love to watch on the player while traveling but i dont think we have access yet without an OTA.
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I bought the 5.0 because it is pretty much the biggest possible size that I can still hold it with one hand. If you are commuting on train STANDING, you need to grab the hand rail using the other hand. Galaxy tab or iPad are way too big to use this way. For me, 4.0 is too small, I may just go with some newer super phone with 4 inch+ screen. Actually the new Galaxy Note is interesting.
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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As I said there's always the option for the custom rom but as you said all the developpement will go to the 5.0. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
Yup, just saw that, hope it will get things rolling! Wonder how hard it would be to get it running on U.S version...
Only now do I see I should have payed a little extra for importing a international version instead of U.S. version, Ah well.
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(. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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ABI is Anything but ipod which it's talking about anything but ipod actually. The link for the firmware and kernel is there.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66820
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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They're more that one month old in some parts of the world.
And they already upgraded it from froyo to gingerbread so an ICS might not come right now (if it ever comes).
I hope I'm wrong, just having bought mine to replace an ipod touch.
I just hope there wil be at least a cyanogen or other custom rom with ICS.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The "Y" is in the model number, not the device name. I have a YP-G70 and the device name is Samsung Galaxy "S" WiFi 5.0
So Samsung Canada has officially announced that all the Canadian versions are going to be just like the Japanese one with the Snapdragon CPU for LTE support and 2GBs of ram, at a glance it appears that everything else under the hood should be the same more or less (obviously dont know for sure but just guessing) so What Im wondering is will the firmwares be the same for these 2GB varients or will there be enough differences that the modding and development area of the S III will differ to the point that anything made for the GT-I9300 wont work on these models?
Naturally the assumed answer would be no, such as the custom SGS2's that have 4 touch buttons and no home key compared to the international model, however all S III's appear to all be the same layout of 2 touch 1 home and same phone design ect, just different CPU and amount of ram inside the phone.
+1 for this question, this will make if I buy or not the phone
The amount of memory is the least of your concerns.
The device is using a completely different chipset, it uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, so no, firmware/roms made for the GT-i9300 will not work on the version you're getting, not even the HSPA+ one.
But i'm sure there will still be a lot of support for doing custom roms on your versions as well
This has always been the case... anything for the "I " will have to be ported to work on north American variants... there will be different modems/kernels ...international will get updates first and certain things will be pulled to build roms for us.
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Both of them are based on different soc. international version is using the exynos chipset
and the lte version is using the qualcom chipset. so the roms would be totally different
What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
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What I think he's asking is whether or not the Canadian and Japanese (for example) versions will be firmware-compatible, as they both will get the alternate SoC and memory, not the international version...
It's a question without an answer. All we can do is guess, and not educated ones. We'll have to wait and see.
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Actually its both, I guess I should of worded this better with more details lol.
But my main thoughts were dev work on the international GT-I9300 and mods/addons etc working on the LTE 2GB varient (since at a glance it looks like they are the same phones but with different CPU/Ram), also as well Japanese/Canada/USA versions working together since it looks like all 3 countrys are getting the same model phones with the same hardware (different model numbers though because of branding purposes but same hardware inside the phone).
Im not looking for custom roms though my main thoughts are small addons that you generally see in the themes and apps section and the huge following that you see with the S II and constant checking and usage with new firmwares for the shake of improving everyones device, and most important of all CF-Root for the device. My concern is that most of the dev's will be putting the work and effort into the international model and not the other ones so I will be SOL unless I get the international model (which is why the question in the first place), but heres the other thing that bothers me with that...
It feels like its not worth the upgrade (hardware wise), everything is the same except 200MHz faster CPU with a couple extra cores that most apps probably wont take advantage of for some time to come, and a 720p HD screen which is nice but not really necessary. The S III feels more like a software upgrade rather then a hardware one (amazing software and improvements Samsung has done for the device over the S II for sure), but to me it feels like its not worth it unless your getting all the hardware improved upon aswell, like were just re-buying our S II's because its "shinier" with new and improved software lol.
Doesn't anyone else feel that the S III should of been not only a CPU upgrade but double the ram, improved MP's on the front and back camera's etc etc?
So with all that in mind atleast for me it feels like if im to get the upgrade it should actually be a nice upgrade (hardware wise) you know what I mean?
Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
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Well, our opinions appear to differ a lot on the subject, but I have no interest on elaborating on them yet again.
However, for rooting, for the SGS3 something like CF-Root is not needed due to the separate kernel and recovery partitions. You flash a modified recovery (once) then root through that.
Future firmwares can then be flashed with Mobile ODIN (which can root during flash), or (again) through the recovery, if you didn't overwrite it.
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Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
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Ah yes i see, i thought he meant compared to the International GT-I9300 model
Sorry to the OP, i haven't a clue about that.
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No I ment both. Compared to the international model and as well between the same alternate ones that are the same.
Pretty much don't want to get the 2GB ram model if most of the development is only for the international model, however getting the normal one over my S II feels like I'm practically getting a small upgrade if the ram isn't getting doubled among other things.
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Does anyone know for sure if the 4.2 has the Wolfson DAC or does it have the Yamaha DAC like the 5.0's?
I looked, looked and looked but so far there's no confirmation on what DAC the 4.2 has.
Thanks!
Anyone?
Please?
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Anyone?
Please?
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It has the wolfson wm8994. The same as the galaxy player/s wifi 4.0 and the samsung galaxy s phone series.
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It has the wolfson wm8994. The same as the galaxy player/s wifi 4.0 and the samsung galaxy s phone series.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Can you please site your source of this info?
I am not saying that I don't believe you but after weeks of trying to find info on this I would like to read more about it for my own information.
Thanks again!!
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Can you please site your source of this info?
I am not saying that I don't believe you but after weeks of trying to find info on this I would like to read more about it for my own information.
Thanks again!!
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I looked up into the source code of the device which you can download at:
opensource.samsung.com
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I looked up into the source code of the device which you can download at:
opensource.samsung.com
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Got it!
Now I can finally decide on getting the 4.0 or 4.2 not having to worry about the DAC on the 4.2 being a Yamaha one.
Thanks so much for looking it up!
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Got it!
Now I can finally decide on getting the 4.0 or 4.2 not having to worry about the DAC on the 4.2 being a Yamaha one.
Thanks so much for looking it up!
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No problem. Also I recommend to take the 4.0 as it is cheaper and it have voodoo sound now. (it has more features but it's up to you.)
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No problem. Also I recommend to take the 4.0 as it is cheaper and it have voodoo sound now. (it has more features but it's up to you.)
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I agree with you, having the Voodoo mod available for the 4.0 is a huge plus.
So far there's a lot of resource for the 4.0 where as the 4.2, I was not even able to root it, all the 4.0 methods won't work on the 4.2. It's going to take a while for solutions to pop up for the 4.2.
I bought the 4.0 for $149 at Bestbuy today and the 4.2 is on sale for $179 this week so I was thinking I would get them both and then return one of them. Best Buy recently changed their return policy to 30 days (used to be 14 days) which is helpful.
The features I like about the 4.2 are the front speaker, larger batteries and the less of the chrome trim like on the 4.0. Also it has the newer version of the touchwiz which is much nicer than the one on the 4.0.
Do you have any opinion on which stable custom rom will give me the newer version of tourchwiz like on the 4.2? I really can't stand the lock screen on the 4.0.
Thanks again for everything.
If you don't mind battery life you have CM7 and if you want a custom stock rom try klin's klassic. Also the gpu on the 4.0 is better as well as the Web browsing.
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I read about the Klassic Rom and also the CM7 but decided to wait because of the issues users reporting with them.
I need a stable mp3 player with good battery life which the 4.0 is out of the box but just wish it had the newer version of Touchwiz like the one on the 4.2.
I wish there is a rom out there with just that and no other tweeks.
I think I will pick up a 4.2 tomorrow and give it another go to see which one I like more.
Would you mind posting after you compare the two? I've been looking for a media player to replace my wife's aging Archos 605 wifi. The Galaxy player series looks nice but I wanted something mod-able which the 4.2 doesn't look like it's it.
I've really been trying to decide between the 5.0 and the 4.0 so I can run a custom rom.
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Would you mind posting after you compare the two? I've been looking for a media player to replace my wife's aging Archos 605 wifi. The Galaxy player series looks nice but I wanted something mod-able which the 4.2 doesn't look like it's it.
I've really been trying to decide between the 5.0 and the 4.0 so I can run a custom rom.
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I just picked up a 4.2 today, I think I will keep it and wait till the talented moder's here to come up with something nice for it. The most important thing that I decided today was that I can live with it the way it is out of the box so any enhancements that becomes available later is just gravy.
Compared to the 4.0 it feels a lot more "current", which I know is a highly subjective opinion but the 4.0 with the rounded corners and thick chrome border/bezel it reminds me of the old iphone which I hated.
Also the 4.2 run 2.3.6 vs the 4.0 running 2.3.5. The 4.2 has a newer version of Touchwiz which is much better than the one on the 4.0.
The media player on the 4.2 is also a newer version with some DSP features not found on the 4.0.
The 5.0 runs 2.3.5 so it should be pretty similar to the 4.0 since they came out at the same time.
I personally think 4.2 is the best overall size for my application which is an mp3 player for while I'm driving. I checked out the 5.0 at the store today and there is no way I can use it one-handed which is a deal breaker. Also, I already own a tablet so I really don't need the extra screen size on the 5.0 in a mp3 player.
If you live close by a Best Buy you should just go and play with all of them.
Cheers.
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I just picked up a 4.2 today, I think I will keep it and wait till the talented moder's here to come up with something nice for it. The most important thing that I decided today was that I can live with it the way it is out of the box so any enhancements that becomes available later is just gravy.
Compared to the 4.0 it feels a lot more "current", which I know is a highly subjective opinion but the 4.0 with the rounded corners and thick chrome border/bezel it reminds me of the old iphone which I hated.
Also the 4.2 run 2.3.6 vs the 4.0 running 2.3.5. The 4.2 has a newer version of Touchwiz which is much better than the one on the 4.0.
The media player on the 4.2 is also a newer version with some DSP features not found on the 4.0.
The 5.0 runs 2.3.5 so it should be pretty similar to the 4.0 since they came out at the same time.
I personally think 4.2 is the best overall size for my application which is an mp3 player for while I'm driving. I checked out the 5.0 at the store today and there is no way I can use it one-handed which is a deal breaker. Also, I already own a tablet so I really don't need the extra screen size on the 5.0 in a mp3 player.
If you live close by a Best Buy you should just go and play with all of them.
Cheers.
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yea, that's kind of the feeling i was getting. the player would be for the wife, and i really don't think in the long run she cares about root, or ICS or etc. she just wants something that works, that she can plug into her car stereo and play mp3's. the 4.2 is newer with a better battery and newer OS so i'll probably go that route.
thanks for the insight.
i got the 4.2 and so far i am loving it. i am upset about the no root solution yet but hopefully soon. but for now i am having 1 problem. acording to samsung, the front facing camera is unable to be used for video. which is true in every app except skype. so theres a problem with that. however when it gets a root, i bet it can be fixed.
I owned a 4.0 and sold it as soon as I caught a glimpse of the 4.2. I like it a lot more than 4.0. The processor and battery r both better. And it doesnt look like a brick .
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Well the 4.2 is getting a ics update from Samsung which is a plus
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I owned a 4.0 and sold it as soon as I caught a glimpse of the 4.2. I like it a lot more than 4.0. The processor and battery r both better. And it doesnt look like a brick .
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You can say that the processor is better but can you OC the 4.2?
No u can't right now.... Wouldn't it b unstable on the 4.0 being a single core?
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No u can't right now.... Wouldn't it b unstable on the 4.0 being a single core?
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I don't have any problems OC it to 1.2 or 1.3 Ghz. I didin't tried 1.5 Ghz though.
Galaxy Player 4.2 DAC is Wolfson WM1811
I just have my Galaxy Player 4.2 torn down and found Wolfson WM1811 DAC, the same DAC in Galaxy S3.
Hello community. In a new galaxy player. 3.6 owner. My other devices are the Verizon fascinate and Verizon galaxy s3. I would post this in q and a. But it seems xda skipped it.
I realize this forum is for. 4 and 5. But what are the differences and similarities between these devices? Is there any ability to cross roms or kernels? Is there development for 3.6?
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
well the 3.6 and 4.2 do "live" in this section as they are considered the "second gen" of the 4.0 and 5.0, so your in the RIGHT spot but no the 3.6 is the crappy defective "runt of the litter" and virtually no DEVS have one, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31823330 is ALL there is.
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well the 3.6 and 4.2 do "live" in this section as they are considered the "second gen" of the 4.0 and 5.0, so your in the RIGHT spot but no the 3.6 is the crappy defective "runt of the litter" and virtually no DEVS have one, this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31823330 is ALL there is.
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That's a bummer. Got it for my mom for Xmas. Was hoping to speed it up with Aosp (she has never owned a smart device) and would not know the difference. Just wanted to butter it before wrapping.
Also would be nice to have long press volume skip.
Thanks for the response. I was a little lost and confused when Google didn't find any development results.
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neh4pres said:
That's a bummer. Got it for my mom for Xmas. Was hoping to speed it up with Aosp (she has never owned a smart device) and would not know the difference. Just wanted to butter it before wrapping.
Also would be nice to have long press volume skip.
Thanks for the response. I was a little lost and confused when Google didn't find any development results.
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
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I make it a thing, when I have to replace something (like my SGP 4.0, because my microSD slot is failing) to look for devices in my price range and then come here to xda to see what the DEV scene is like and if it's strong enough to go for it, thats how I ended up with getting Tab 2 7" to replace my SGP 4.0, it has many ROMs of all Flavors ICS, 4.1 JB, CM10.1 nightlies just started this week just a good strong and fast little device, and since it has a 4,000 mah battery I can go 3x longer between charges.
The only thing that exists for the 3.6 is root on the stock rom. If you are using a 3.6 with a physical home button then use the eu rom, otherwise (capacitive home button) use the us root.
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Hi,
I'm going to be buying a Samsung S2 for a family member as a backup phone but want to put CynanogenMod on it and change the pit size... but the variants of S2 are confusing, the family member currently has a Samsung S2 9100G and has http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 installed.
I have the option of buying a cheap working phone from someone I know but it is an 9100 model, one of their original batch, is this compatible with the ROM and pit files from above?
Or should I pass on buying it and instead get an 9100G? What other ones are ok and obviously work in the UK?
Hyflex said:
Hi,
I'm going to be buying a Samsung S2 for a family member as a backup phone but want to put CynanogenMod on it and change the pit size... but the variants of S2 are confusing, the family member currently has a Samsung S2 9100G and has http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 installed.
I have the option of buying a cheap working phone from someone I know but it is an 9100 model, one of their original batch, is this compatible with the ROM and pit files from above?
Or should I pass on buying it and instead get an 9100G? What other ones are ok and obviously work in the UK?
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I would go with the international version(i9100). It is more common, and there is more development for it. The "G" version has a different chipset, which makes it incompatible with roms from the i9100. From what I've heard the TI chip isn't as good overall as the exynos chip in performance either, although the numbers are the same(1.2ghz)
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I would go with the international version(i9100). It is more common, and there is more development for it. The "G" version has a different chipset, which makes it incompatible with roms from the i9100. From what I've heard the TI chip isn't as good overall as the exynos chip in performance either, although the numbers are the same(1.2ghz)
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Thanks for your reply, it's more common really? Three other family members have had S2's and they were all i9100G.
I noticed you said:
international version (i9100)
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Which is going against what I read kind off... According to wikipedia:
Galaxy S II - Model GT-I9100G
The Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100G was released in late 2011, and is usually sold instead of the original GT-I9100 in certain markets (mostly Asia and some parts of Europe). An overview of the Samsung Galaxy S II GT-I9100G can be seen on Samsung's official website.[61] It features a Texas Instruments OMAP4430 SoC instead of the Exynos 4210 in the GT-I9100. It is visually identical to the GT-I9100, as well as having the same 1.2 GHz processor speed and dual-core ARM Cortex A9 processor technology. However, the SoC is of a different design and the Mali-400 GPU has been replaced by a PowerVR SGX 540 GPU. This difference in the SoC makes this variant incompatible with custom ROMs intended for the I9100, but it has been steadily gaining its own aftermarket support (such as from CyanogenMod[62]) due to the relative ease of development and the openness of the TI OMAP platform..
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Hyflex said:
Thanks for your reply, it's more common really? Three other family members have had S2's and they were all i9100G.
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More common worldwide, meaning it has more developers and variety of roms etc. Perhaps where you are the "G" is more common as it was only introduced into a limited market.
The difference in hardware is negligable though, I only meant to say they are incompatible between them. The TI is indeed open source, so if you want to develop your own rom/kernels and create your own device tree/kernel tree etc. it would be much easier from a purely aosp base.
I guess at the end of the day, if you just want to install a rom, then forget it, either one will do. And the fact you have the files already for the "G" it might be easier to get another. If you plan to update the rom in the future or try a few different ones to see which one you prefer, I would recommend the i9100
noppy22 said:
More common worldwide, meaning it has more developers and variety of roms etc. Perhaps where you are the "G" is more common as it was only introduced into a limited market.
The difference in hardware is negligable though, I only meant to say they are incompatible between them. The TI is indeed open source, so if you want to develop your own rom/kernels and create your own device tree/kernel tree etc. it would be much easier from a purely aosp base.
I guess at the end of the day, if you just want to install a rom, then forget it, either one will do. And the fact you have the files already for the "G" it might be easier to get another. If you plan to update the rom in the future or try a few different ones to see which one you prefer, I would recommend the i9100
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I'm rather confused now... I installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 onto 2x i9100G phones and it works perfectly... but yet it isn't a G version of the ROM when I should have installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-2-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1s-os12-t3103494
How are they even working?!
Hyflex said:
I'm rather confused now... I installed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/development-derivatives/rom-cyanogenmod-12-t2955551 onto 2x i9100G phones and it works perfectly... but yet it isn't a G version of the ROM when I should have installed http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-2-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1s-os12-t3103494
How are they even working?!
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I have no idea!! I don't have a i9100g, but everthing I've read indicates it is not possible. Can you take a couple of screenshots in "About phone" in settings with rom build and device variant? The only thing I can think of is if they used the same chipset as i9100 for some of the i9100g's at some point?? I don't know
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I have no idea!! I don't have a i9100g, but everthing I've read indicates it is not possible. Can you take a couple of screenshots in "About phone" in settings with rom build and device variant? The only thing I can think of is if they used the same chipset as i9100 for some of the i9100g's at some point?? I don't know
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I checked one and it was the i9100, I swear the other is an i9100G though, if it isn't then I'm seeing things and got incredibly lucky flashing that ROM lol, silly me.