The ics kernels what's the difference? - HTC EVO 3D

I know joelz and Kush have two different kernels what is the difference between the two? Kush says he has a battery fix so what is the difference and why won't joelz use that kernel?

herousr said:
I know joelz and Kush have two different kernels what is the difference between the two? Kush says he has a battery fix so what is the difference and why won't joelz use that kernel?
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I havent looked into the ICS kernels for a few days now, but JoelZ probably used CHad's as nearly all EVO 3D people use his kernels now since they are the best by far. All ICS kernels are alpha kernels so they will get more and more features working as time goes on. Even if Chad's kernel is somehow not the best right now, there is a good chance it will be once things hit a stable release and beyond.

EniGmA1987 said:
I havent looked into the ICS kernels for a few days now, but JoelZ probably used CHad's as nearly all EVO 3D people use his kernels now since they are the best by far. All ICS kernels are alpha kernels so they will get more and more features working as time goes on. Even if Chad's kernel is somehow not the best right now, there is a good chance it will be once things hit a stable release and beyond.
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yeah I get that they are all alpha and such but wouldn't it be better to include the kernel that has the battery working and such rather then sticking with one that doesn't. Unless I missing something here.

He sticks with Chad's because it has full hw acceleration.
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scyy said:
He sticks with Chad's because it has full hw acceleration.
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is that it? do you know the difference in speed between Chad's and whatever one Kush uses?

herousr said:
is that it? do you know the difference in speed between Chad's and whatever one Kush uses?
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since i posted source for HW ACCEL - its a matter of time before every one has hw accel
but as of now
your choice is hw accel or battery %
hwaccel does make a drastic change in 2d and 3d gpu performance
battery% is a nice to have for some, and a must have for others
the kernels that use battery% fix are not gpl compliant, so i am unable to use that fix in my kernel. - so until my hwaccel is kanged, you need to pick 1 or the other
when they kang my hw accel, the obvious choice would be to use theirs.

chad.goodman said:
since i posted source for HW ACCEL - its a matter of time before every one has hw accel
but as of now
your choice is hw accel or battery %
hwaccel does make a drastic change in 2d and 3d gpu performance
battery% is a nice to have for some, and a must have for others
the kernels that use battery% fix are not gpl compliant, so i am unable to use that fix in my kernel. - so until my hwaccel is kanged, you need to pick 1 or the other
when they kang my hw accel, the obvious choice would be to use theirs.
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Thanks for that explanation I'll stick with your version because I don't really care to much about the battery %. The speed is what I want in my rom. I'll stick with yours for now and see how it goes. You have done a great job hope you don't think I'm complaining.

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Voodoo Color, lagfix and Sound all in one

I'm looking for a Voodoo Sound color and the voodoo lagfix, but all i've found is the Over Clock Kernels with those only.
I do not want overclock.
can someone lead me to right direction?
You don't need to overclock the default is usually 1 ghz either way....
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xriderx66 said:
I'm looking for a Voodoo Sound color and the voodoo lagfix, but all i've found is the Over Clock Kernels with those only.
I do not want overclock.
can someone lead me to right direction?
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They're only overclock capable. By default, none of them are overclocked.
but they lose battery faster if i don't have it flashed on...
The Devs just got a hold of the Froyo source code yesterday, and have built new kernels based on it. Supposedly, the battery drain problem was because the old kernels weren't really meant for our phone, but a different Galaxy S variant.
I just flashed the new DoW kernel from Team Whiskey, and it seems to be doing a lot better. The old kernel got really warm and sucked up battery. The new kernel seems to be running as cool as the stock + voodoo kernel.
--Brandon Young
I tried DoW the video for it doesn't work thats why i don't want that.
You can't watch any videos yet on any kernel by source.
dragon or DoW both u can't.
It looks like Team Whiskey have a fixed version.
There are 2 links in their post. One for no HD Cam, and for HD Cam working.
I used the fixed version, and i played a youtube video.
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xriderx66 said:
I tried DoW the video for it doesn't work thats why i don't want that.
You can't watch any videos yet on any kernel by source.
dragon or DoW both u can't.
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I'll just have to assume that's true. Either way, though, that's your only option. Any kernel built from source is going to be the same on battery life and any quirks like the one you mentioned as the OC capable kernels. At least for now. I'm sure over time the devs will work out stuff like that.
brandonyoung said:
It looks like Team Whiskey have a fixed version.
There are 2 links in their post. One for no HD Cam, and for HD Cam working.
I used the fixed version, and i played a youtube video.
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Did they mention what the trade-off is? I have to imagine there is one, otherwise they wouldn't keep the no HD version around.
i think the HD Cam version is the 720p cam corder , because it didn't work before...
MWBehr said:
Did they mention what the trade-off is? I have to imagine there is one, otherwise they wouldn't keep the no HD version around.
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From the post it looks like the trade-off is the amount of RAM available. But both have more available RAM than the stock + voodoo kernel that the Bionix-V ROM comes with.
DoW14-T959 359MB RAM version -> No HD Video
DoW14-T959-HD 323MB RAM version -> HD Cam working
--Brandon Young
Dead horse has all that, and comes stock clocked.
I haven't used it yet though, so I dont know if it has the video issues.
thegreatcity said:
Dead horse has all that, and comes stock clocked.
I haven't used it yet though, so I dont know if it has the video issues.
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Yes it has video issue aswell

[Kernel][AOSP] Tiamat 4.1.0 | 2.6.38.8 | 10/13/2011

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AOSP Kernels for HTC's 8x50, 7x30, and 8x60 Devices
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This kernel has been around for the Inc and the Evo. Now I'm bringing it to the N1 and the Desire!!
Great stuff, always nice to have more kernel choices
MOD : Can you post only Nexus One kernel on your post please (more readable)
Had been having some wifi issues this past week using cm7 nightly along with various kernels. Wifi was frequently dropping or just very slow. Spent most of Sunday screwing with my home network which seems stable now. I think comcast must have been doing something. however, my phone wifi was still poor. installed this kernel last night and so far phone is performing as it should on wifi. the difference was immediate. not sure whats going on. cant comment on battery life yet, but it's looking very good through this mornings use. Thank you!
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Had been having some wifi issues this past week using cm7 nightly along with various kernels. Wifi was frequently dropping or just very slow. Spent most of Sunday screwing with my home network which seems stable now. I think comcast must have been doing something. however, my phone wifi was still poor. installed this kernel last night and so far phone is performing as it should on wifi. the difference was immediate. not sure whats going on. cant comment on battery life yet, but it's looking very good through this mornings use. Thank you!
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I'm glad it's working for you, but that is strange... The only change I make to wifi from CM is undervolting it. And now that I think about it, I may have forgotten to bring that tweak over to the n1 and desire...
Can you summarize how your kernel differs from the others (CM, pershoot, wildmonks, redstar).
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Can you summarize how your kernel differs from the others (CM, pershoot, wildmonks, redstar).
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Versus the main CM kernel, this has unrestricted overclocking, HAVS, smartass, undervotling, sysfs interface and several other tweaks/improvements. I don't have a N1 and honestly dont know anything about the other kernels out there for it. The kernel started on the Inc and Evo, mostly around MIUI, and I was asked by a few people to bring it over to the N1 and Desire, so I figured I would post it up for everyone.
Hi all,
Been running this since 0800 this morning (its now 1800) no problems at all.
Can't say its faster or better on the battery for sure but its certainly no worse than CM stock.
Whats the smartass govenor? Just the same as on demand as it seems to replace it?
Oh, just one thing, although it has the option (in SetCPU) to go down to 128mhz, I've not seen it go lower than 245mhz which makes me wonder if its clocking down to 128 with the screen off.
Anyone else?
bryanchapman9999 said:
Hi all,
Been running this since 0800 this morning (its now 1800) no problems at all.
Can't say its faster or better on the battery for sure but its certainly no worse than CM stock.
Whats the smartass govenor? Just the same as on demand as it seems to replace it?
Oh, just one thing, although it has the option (in SetCPU) to go down to 128mhz, I've not seen it go lower than 245mhz which makes me wonder if its clocking down to 128 with the screen off.
Anyone else?
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The on demand governor was removed to force the default to smartass (the default is usually set to on demand by the ramdisk and is not affected by setting the default in the kenrel), but the two are not similar. Smartass was built off the interactive governor.
As for the 128Mhz floor - that is something finicky about the smartass governor. It should drop to 128 on any other governor though.
Smartass Governor shows real potential...thanks for this!
what about the wonk?
From what I gather the wonk is due to something in CM7 kernel. I also noticed that it is absent from stock 2.3.3 and also absent from AOSP builds.
Has anyone tried CM7 with this kernel?
thanks for the N1 kernel.
I'll try ASAP.
I will try this kernel now, thanks for posting. New kernel cooks are always welcomed.
After about 18 hrs on this kernel, the results are pleasing.
Extremely stable on the Smartass Governor, which is surprising because I've had friends compile me kernels incorporating this governor, and the end result = unusable.
Battery life seems fantastic so far.
Clocked 128-998. No profiles.
Thank you again for this kernel.
Results on N1
I have been running this kernel for 24hrs at 128/1228 and it's been running great with smartass selected on my AT&T N1. I tried going even higher than 1228 but that causes it to crash immediately (I'm surprised it can even handle 1228.) Linpack is a little low at 23 compared to other kernels that can get up to 40. Quadrant also comes up behind at only 1051.
tried going at the highest setting & it crashed my N1 , BACK TO RESDTAR'S kernel .
Been using the kernel for a few hours, Kernel seems stable but definatly doesnt feel snappy.
phewizzo said:
Been using the kernel for a few hours, Kernel seems stable but definatly doesnt feel snappy.
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same here, got some freeze
btw oc at 1267 without any crash

Any ICS Roms good enough for daily driver?

I would post this in the Development section, but I dont have enough posts yet.
Does anyone use an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM that is stable enough to use as a daily driver? I looked through the list but they all seem to be lacking data connection, gps, or some other main function that I need.
Is anyone running one of the ICS Roms as a daily driver?
Scotts 3.7 is fantastic! Only thing not working is data arrows. Do it! You won't regret it.
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Cleanrom. Just switched over from gb about a week ago haven't had a problem yet and no way I would go back ics is sweet, mostly in gimmicky kinda ways(face unlock) but still improvement.
Joelz BAMF 1.0 is - been running it since Joel started development on it
The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
id say go for clean rom and de-sense it if you want. the only thing keeping me away right now is all of the ugly green in the rom. once a blueish theme comes ill go for it. yes im anal about how my phone looks.
davidbudd1 said:
The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
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The link to the Joelz desensed ICS Rom is not reliable. Any mirror anywhere for it?
I have it in my dropbox account, here is a link. mods if this violates anything feel free to remove http://db.tt/SW1Yv5i9
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davidbudd1 said:
I have it in my dropbox account, here is a link. mods if this violates anything feel free to remove http://db.tt/SW1Yv5i9
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THANK YOU!!!!!! You sir are a rock star for that one!
bukada said:
THANK YOU!!!!!! You sir are a rock star for that one!
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anytime man
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davidbudd1 said:
The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
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Actually, I was really looking for a stock ics Rom as I'm coming from a nexus s and I had gotten use to loving it.
I'll give Scotts cleanrom with sense a try.
What does desensed mean? Get rid of all the sense skin completely?
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All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
Nils business sandwich, accept no substitutes. Always stable and clean, and issues are fixed quickly.
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Getting my rezound tomorrow fonding from the tbolt. I'm also interested in an ics rom needs GPS working and wireless tether.
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I do no not speak ill of other rom's but i highly recomend nil's p business ICS. It's smooth, stable , slightly themed and very well supported.
I have only tried Cleanrom ICS and NIL Business ICS. Both work good for me. Speaker phone works a little better on NILS. Tether, GPS navigation work on NILS. Didn't test GPS on CR but I assume it works. Tether works on CR. Battery is decent on both. They seem just a tad slower than gingerbread for me.
Apex launcher is nice for people that want a more AOSP like launcher.
Be careful of Mainversion if trying to switch back to a gingerbread rom from a ics rom though. If the Mainver is higher than a rom your are trying to switch too, you will have issues. There is a file here on the forums you can flash to set mainver lower before flashing a lower mainver rom I believe.
I'm using CleanRom 3.5. I don't have any notable issues. Tether works fine. Battery life is really good.
pkopalek said:
All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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I agree we need improved kernels. Well said!
pkopalek said:
All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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Thank you for the great info regarding the stability of ICS roms. I'm currently scoping out the situation for my brother who has a rezound and want to put something stable on it for him.
This is a huge issue and like you I will recommend he remains on gingerbread until it is worked out.
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pkopalek said:
All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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Is this confirmed info? I want to make sure.
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AOSP/AOKP graphics performance low?

I have switched from samsung LP7 rom to AOSP (F1 GNex) and then AOKP (hydrogen).
and I really love the overall UI smoothness on both, however I did notice that 3D graphics performance is not as good as in the samsung ics rom.
This is very noticeable (low frame rate lag) in games like Modern Combat 3 and ShadowGun..
Anybody knows the reason why?
Note: I did not underclock/undervolt the cpu or gpu
same issue here on all AOSP and AOKP roms i think there is real problem in GPU driver in Aosp OR screen refresh rate and until now not fixed i really hate the fps drops in games i feel like i have a **** device not sgs2
btw if u run antutu when it come in 3d graphic test(knight) in start of test the fps get stuck at 51 fps like 10-15 second then it goes up and in nena mark 2 when u look in the fps meter u can see the fps gose up an down like hell in all aosp roms and the test lag as hell the u will got 46 on sammy rom the test run so so smooth and the fps much better no fps drops and u will got between 52-54 fps
this issue is keeping me on sammy rom but i really like the Aosp and Aokp i really hope it will fix soon
Agreed.
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in nena mark 2 when u look in the fps meter u can see the fps gose up an down like hell in all aosp roms and the test lag as hell the u will got 46 on sammy rom the test run so so smooth and the fps much better no fps drops and u will got between 52-54 fps
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I can confirm this.
Can it be fixed im cm9?
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iamnotkurtcobain said:
Can it be fixed im cm9?
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idk there is many things to fix in Aosp roms and most impotent thing is the laggy 3d thing that issue keep away from cm or aokp roms but i really like them
u can ask codeworkx for fix but he will ignore u and i think he is busy with i9100G too as i read in cm thread
btw there is problem with ram too
in sammy rom i got more than 1070 points in aosp only 890 in quadrant i got more than 3200 in ram points in aosp 2000
so for now sammy rom is best in every thing performance-stability-for games - etc
in GB the Aosp roms was slightly better in every thing than sammy rom but idk what happened in ics it become the opposite or maybe sammy but some magic in there ics roms
darkchazz said:
I have switched from samsung LP7 rom to AOSP (F1 GNex) and then AOKP (hydrogen).
and I really love the overall UI smoothness on both, however I did notice that 3D graphics performance is not as good as in the samsung ics rom.
This is very noticeable (low frame rate lag) in games like Modern Combat 3 and ShadowGun..
Anybody knows the reason why?
Note: I did not underclock/undervolt the cpu or gpu
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yahyoh said:
idk there is many things to fix in Aosp roms and most impotent thing is the laggy 3d thing that issue keep away from cm or aokp roms but i really like them
u can ask codeworkx for fix but he will ignore u and i think he is busy with i9100G too as i read in cm thread
btw there is problem with ram too
in sammy rom i got more than 1070 points in aosp only 890 in quadrant i got more than 3200 in ram points in aosp 2000
so for now sammy rom is best in every thing performance-stability-for games - etc
in GB the Aosp roms was slightly better in every thing than sammy rom but idk what happened in ics it become the opposite or maybe sammy but some magic in there ics roms
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maybe you can get driver sources from samsung so codeworkx can work on them
other wise you have to live with it
sadly samsung doesnt provide sources besides kernel
in fact no manufacturer does
which is the biggest drawback in aosp rom or phones like s2
but the advantages out weight the problems aosp ftw
what the hell the thread moved to Q&A thanks for mod now no one will see it
So it's a driver problem I assume ?
AOKP & CM9 roms are slow compare to AOSP & Sam roms. I usualy get 59.8 fps on antutu benchmark at knights where as on AOKP & CM9 roms it doesn't go beyond 54-56 fps. IMO try 4.0.3 roms instead of 4.0.4 ! You will feel the difference.
And one more thing try Siyah 3.0.0rc1 - 3.0.1. (Device gets quite hot but it gives you nice fps on HD games like MC3,Shadowgun, Asphalt 6).
I know AOKP & CM9 have lots of nice tweaks but they are not yet optimized & have some touch problems likr when you swipe left it goes right etc )
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AOKP & CM9 roms are slow compare to AOSP & Sam roms. I usualy get 59.8 fps on antutu benchmark at knights where as on AOKP & CM9 roms it doesn't go beyond 54-56 fps. IMO try 4.0.3 roms instead of 4.0.4 ! You will feel the difference.
And one more thing try Siyah 3.0.0rc1 - 3.0.1. (Device gets quite hot but it gives you nice fps on HD games like MC3,Shadowgun, Asphalt 6).
I know AOKP & CM9 have lots of nice tweaks but they are not yet optimized & have some touch problems likr when you swipe left it goes right etc )
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what u mean by AOSP
as i know AOSP is cm9 or F1 rom

I know everyone loves ICS but GB is faster

Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
** http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
edufur said:
Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
js593 said:
Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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felacio said:
Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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