I remember reading a few months ago on a forum that the tegra 3 could reach 5ghz properly cooled, like a desktop cpu. I'm not too familiar with the Arm design so I do not know if this is true or not. I could see 3ghz but 5 is pushing it.
Also what do you think our overclocks and going to be when some devs get their hands on some kernels?
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anywhere from 1.8-2Ghz for everyday usage, I'm hoping. maybe even higher but heat will be an issue as there's no fans to cool down processors. as far as that 5ghz thing, lol, it wouldn't be practical on a tablet. any of those super overclocks like on Bulldozer is just for show. not for practical use. they do it just to show it can be done. quad cores clock at 5Ghz would melt almost instantly..lmfao without some super impractical cooling method.
we will see a very nice overclocking jump. Stay tuned
Major gaming pcs can't make it to 5ghz. I've personally neve seen a cpu faster then 4.5ghz.
But in answer to your question 4 out of the 5 cores can reach 1.3ghz while then other can reach 1.4ghz.
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JustinFields95 said:
Major gaming pcs can't make it to 5ghz. I've personally neve seen a cpu faster then 4.5ghz.
But in answer to your question 4 out of the 5 cores can reach 1.3ghz while then other can reach 1.4ghz.
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I have seen them hit around 6 with liquid nitrogen cooling But I think he means over clocking the CPU. Personally I prolly won't go higher than 2 because I don't want to burn it. The computer I'm on right now has a first gen i5 lynnfield and I have it clocked at 4.2 with a Corsair H80 cooling it So much awesome is done by this processor now
We should be able to get all 5 to run at once unless it's a hardware restriction which couldn't be possible....
But idk if the processor of the prime it's connected to the aluminum backplate if it is I think we could get it to about 3GHz because the aluminum would be a big heat sink for it
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We should be able to get all 5 to run at once unless it's a hardware restriction which couldn't be possible....
But idk if the processor of the prime it's connected to the aluminum backplate if it is I think we could get it to about 3GHz because the aluminum would be a big heat sink for it
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Big heat sink yes but I would leave it there for very long. Soon the heat sink will turn VERY hot
My question is....Why bother OC (other than Yay! I can go Mhz ZooM!!...which can be fun)? But from a practical standpoint, there isn't anything out there, short of SW video decoding, that taxes the prime even at stock clocks...all you would do is run down your battery faster.
Now, undervolting, that's some useful stuff. Just me though.
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My question is....Why bother OC (other than Yay! I can go Mhz ZooM!!...which can be fun)? But from a practical standpoint, there isn't anything out there, short of SW video decoding, that taxes the prime even at stock clocks...all you would do is run down your battery faster.
Now, undervolting, that's some useful stuff. Just me though.
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That's why you OC/UV Under volt it and Over clock it Great battery and max speed
Had that on my OG Droid and the battery life was better than stock while it was OCed
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That's why you OC/UV Under volt it and Over clock it Great battery and max speed
Had that on my OG Droid and the battery life was better than stock while it was OCed
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Why not leave the speed where it is and just undervolt further and save even more battery power for the same performance? Again, you lose nothing but gain battery life.
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Why not leave the speed where it is and just undervolt further and save even more battery power for the same performance? Again, you lose nothing but gain battery life.
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On this that's extremely true but my OG Droid, and my current Phone (LG Revolution), over clocking gained me a lot.
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On this that's extremely true but my OG Droid, and my current Phone (LG Revolution), over clocking gained me a lot.
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That's the thing. For a device that struggles with some functions, an OC can do wonders (saw a nice improvement with my DInc and newer ROMs). But, in our case, the Prime runs everything you throw at it (aside from SW decoding) and it runs it without issue. So the gain from OC would be minimal when compared to possibly hour(s) of battery life gained through UV.
Now, later down the road, when new flashy things come out and the Prime starts to show its age....OC would definitely be of use.
Just my 2 cents.
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That's the thing. For a device that struggles with some functions, an OC can do wonders (saw a nice improvement with my DInc and newer ROMs). But, in our case, the Prime runs everything you throw at it (aside from SW decoding) and it runs it without issue. So the gain from OC would be minimal when compared to possibly hour(s) of battery life gained through UV.
Now, later down the road, when new flashy things come out and the Prime starts to show its age....OC would definitely be of use.
Just my 2 cents.
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+1
But I would like to see what it does on Antutu with a really high clock speed
JustinFields95 said:
Major gaming pcs can't make it to 5ghz. I've personally neve seen a cpu faster then 4.5ghz.
But in answer to your question 4 out of the 5 cores can reach 1.3ghz while then other can reach 1.4ghz.
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My i7 2600k is clocked at 5.2Ghz with just fan cooling. Not stock cooling though, stock cooling can be fine around 4.4-4.6ghz, due to the 32nm.
All the replys are focused on other cpus and why not to oc. I was just wondering how fast the tegra 3 could get if it had a proper cooler. I read 5ghz
Im not looking to oc my prime.
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My i7 2600k is clocked at 5.2Ghz with just fan cooling. Not stock cooling though, stock cooling can be fine around 4.4-4.6ghz, due to the 32nm.
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.... So much overclock .... So little.... Mind Blown
For later tests, it the backplate is a heatsink for the CPU, then we could make a stand that acts like a heasink
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All the replys are focused on other cpus and why not to oc. I was just wondering how fast the tegra 3 could get if it had a proper cooler. I read 5ghz
Im not looking to oc my prime.
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I'm calling major BS on 5ghz. I doubt we will see anything much higher than 2 Ghz.
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Major gaming pcs can't make it to 5ghz. I've personally neve seen a cpu faster then 4.5ghz.
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I beg to differ.Im typing this on a OCed 2500k @ 5ghz.
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My i7 2600k is clocked at 5.2Ghz with just fan cooling. Not stock cooling though, stock cooling can be fine around 4.4-4.6ghz, due to the 32nm.
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May I ask the following? :
What case/cooler do you have?
What voltages?
What temps on load?
And 4.4 - 4.6Ghz with the stock? Do you live in like 10 degrees Celsius ambient temps?
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I beg to differ.Im typing this on a OCed 2500k @ 5ghz.
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I have used the cpu5.sh script to overclock the prime to 1.6Ghz, and benchmark shows a good improvement. I started streaming a 720P movie, mkv format, and everything played perfect but after only 5minutes the whole aluminum frame started to heat up noticeably . So I suggest waiting for some tested overclocked rom's before overclocking to be sure you don't blow it up.
You cant say it is the CPU tweak.
1.5 & 1.6 are built into this CPU. So, technically, your not "over clocking" as your not taking this chip beyond it's design spec. It is a 1.6 capable chip.
Moto did the same thing in the first Droid. They sent the phone out "under clocked" and then later did an update and gave users a claimed speed boost, but all they did was ope up the chip to it's full capable speed & sold it as a speed improvement. That is all that has been done here, we just beat Asus to it.
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You cant say it is the CPU tweak.
1.5 & 1.6 are built into this CPU. So, technically, your not "over clocking" as your not taking this chip beyond it's design spec. It is a 1.6 capable chip.
Moto did the same thing in the first Droid. They sent the phone out "under clocked" and then later did an update and gave users a claimed speed boost, but all they did was ope up the chip to it's full capable speed & sold it as a speed improvement. That is all that has been done here, we just beat Asus to it.
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You're looking at it way to simple. The fact that the tegra3 chip is capable of running at higher speed, does not mean that in the Prime it is designed to do so.
Not saying you can't run at those speeds, but at extreme conditions (warm weather) , it could be a problem.
Yeah, I don't buy into that the "Prime is not designed to" argument nor that it is the proven issue here for what I said and given the CPU tweak he is talking about does not ramp all cores so I can't see an issue that would cause one to fret... but we can agree to disagree.
What the OP should have done was use CPU Spy and look and see for how long and IF he was even using 1.5 or 1.6 speeds.
Hey - I do think we need to be careful using these tweaks and things should be watched, but give the chip is 1.6 capable, I fully believe the Prime and the cpu's can take it just fine. And either way, this is not "over clocking" technically speaking.
I would imagine (could be wrong) that this chip has overheat and quite possibly overvolt protection. Almost every chip in the last 6-8 years has had this. I remeber turning my athlon x2 on with no heatsink and it actually stayed on for about 10 minutes before turning off. Even at 1.3-1.4 it can overheat. Infact the small overclock will be minimal on heat gain until additional voltage is applied. I would be suprised.if this overclock heated this chip up more than 5 c vs stock.
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I would imagine (could be wrong) that this chip has overheat and quite possibly overvolt protection. Almost every chip in the last 6-8 years has had this. I remeber turning my athlon x2 on with no heatsink and it actually stayed on for about 10 minutes before turning off. Even at 1.3-1.4 it can overheat. Infact the small overclock will be minimal on heat gain until additional voltage is applied. I would be suprised.if this overclock heated this chip up more than 5 c vs stock.
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IT DOES. Viperboy already confirmed this while looking around in the kernel or whatever. He posted that response in his thread in developement section. IT HAS a failsafe mechanism. I would love to know more details about it though.
PLUS what op said could be said about stock also. THE PRIME BACKPLATE GETS hot in regular performance mode. PLUS I've ran the "Real True" Overclocking. That's the combination of viperboy control mod n system tuner where all 4 cores are maxed out to 1.6Ghz. VIPERBOY control mod alone doesn't do that. PRIME runs fine n does get hot sometimes. It depends on what you doing. PLUS its always good to have a battery temperature widget so you always see the temp. IF CPU is working like crazy. You will see the battery temp go up alot. PRIME was actually designed with 1.6ghz in mind. THats why its part of the kernel. ALL ASUS did was disable it for battery longevity purposes.
Regarding the 1.6Ghz and cpuspy I had just reset the timer before I started streaming and afterwords it showed it had used 99% of the time at 1.6Ghz
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Guys, look up "speed binning". Not every CPU is capable of max speed.
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Guys, look up "speed binning". Not every CPU is capable of max speed.
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http://www.pcpitstop.com/news/maxpc/overclock.asp
I read it. Long story short, Tegra3 can easily handle it. Its all about money. WHY would Asus/Nvidia release its first quad core device already maxed out? They want people to be more hyped up down the road when they easily enable the 1.6ghz on future devices, which will have the exact same tegra3 chip in them. Prime was their testing device for future speed increases down the road on future devices. Another reason theybdidnt enable it was because tl promote battery longevity. IF IT wasn't possible or supported or tested already, it wouldn't be in the kernel for us to easily enable it with root access.
If speed binning was an issue most people would need additional voltage to get to 1.6ghz. While this may be the case i in my experiences (HUGE PC overclocker) dont believe this to be the case. I have personally achieved a 1.8 to 3.4ghz overclock on -25c temps. So i have a bit of experience.
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I posted this in another thread, but the Lenovo tablet running the Tegra 3, shown at CES, is being advertised as running at 1.6ghz.
No worries about running at that speed. Once the bootloader is opened up, I'd feel perfectly fine running at 2.0ghz myself.
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its saying that since .15 upgrade
Odd
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Actually, I think its the bogomips.
As does mine.
But the AnTuTu Benchmark system info shows the correct stuff. My guess? The actual tester hasn't been updated as frequently as the Benchmark.
If we got that high of a clock, especially with all 4 cores, our Tegra 3's would burn up in like two seconds lol
AnTuTu Battery test was making my Prime so hot I quit it out of fear
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As does mine.
But the AnTuTu Benchmark system info shows the correct stuff. My guess? The actual tester hasn't been updated as frequently as the Benchmark.
If we got that high of a clock, especially with all 4 cores, our Tegra 3's would burn up in like two seconds lol
AnTuTu Battery test was making my Prime so hot I quit it out of fear
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That's only about 400MHz more than what it's running now, if you unlocked the 1.6GHz setting. I've seen speculation that we might be able to hit 2.0, but it's just that; speculation. I'm hoping it'll become a reality
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That's only about 400MHz more than what it's running now, if you unlocked the 1.6GHz setting. I've seen speculation that we might be able to hit 2.0, but it's just that; speculation. I'm hoping it'll become a reality
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I know, but that's the point I'm making. 5 minutes running all 4 cores at 1.6 GHz had my Prime at 42 degrees Celsius! 46.2 degrees is when I have my devices all but shut down to about 200 MHz... Like one or two minutes, all 4 cores, at 2.0 GHz, I don't see being actually usable.
Awesome for quick benchmarking? Yes. Awesome when utilized in Power Saving mode and using 2 or 3 cores? Sure.
Usable for gaming with all 4 cores? Hell no lol the Prime would melt IMO
P.s. I personally think we'll top out on the best Primes at about 2.2/2.3, with many users incapable of going past 1.8/1.9 without reboots and freezes and such. Just my own speculation, but the dev's shall show us.
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I know, but that's the point I'm making. 5 minutes running all 4 cores at 1.6 GHz had my Prime at 42 degrees Celsius! 46.2 degrees is when I have my devices all but shut down to about 200 MHz... Like one or two minutes, all 4 cores, at 2.0 GHz, I don't see being actually usable.
Awesome for quick benchmarking? Yes. Awesome when utilized in Power Saving mode and using 2 or 3 cores? Sure.
Usable for gaming with all 4 cores? Hell no lol the Prime would melt IMO
P.s. I personally think we'll top out on the best Primes at about 2.2/2.3, with many users incapable of going past 1.8/1.9 without reboots and freezes and such. Just my own speculation, but the dev's shall show us.
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Wow mine never gets that hot. Or even hot at all, really. Which governor did you have it set to? I always have mine set to 102MHz-1.6GHz with the interactive governor, and in performance mode, of course.
That's a good estimate for max clock speeds, I'd say. Can't wait to find out what the highest will be though!
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Wow mine never gets that hot. Or even hot at all, really. Which governor did you have it set to? I always have mine set to 102MHz-1.6GHz with the interactive governor, and in performance mode, of course.
That's a good estimate for max clock speeds, I'd say. Can't wait to find out what the highest will be though!
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Oh, no scaling.
I realize it's not realistic, things aren't going to run that way, but that's strictly 1.6 GHz for about five straight minutes.
Oh no, running my normal Profiles, it's always Ondemand and lower clocks the lower the battery gets. I stay pretty low on temp with normal use.
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but wiki says that max clockrate is 2.0ghz so maybe its capable of doing that? but then its for all arm cortex-a9 so maybe for the future ones? but a15 is out soon
I was discussing something with anlther member on clock speeds and something was revealed. You know for the prime, normal performance top speeds are 1.4Ghz on a single core and 1.3Ghz on 4 cores. well Nvidia site that has spec on Tegra3 says something different now. It now states that the top speed is 1.5Ghz on a single core and 1.4Ghz on multiple cores.
Can people who are stock or rooted and haven't overclocked check this out? you can use CPU spy. put your prime in performance mode then use CPU spy to see what the top speed enabled actually is. don't report the speed not in use on the bottom. only look at the top speed actually in use and not in sleep. another way to tell is use an app like system tuner or system panel light and look at the Max speed the bar meter hits. it'll be fluctuating. CPU spy the best way.
I want to see if this new update might of actually increased the top speeds on stock devices. here is the link to look at the new tegra3 spec showing the increased speeds.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-3-processor.html
Ok buddy. Trying to work with ya here. I am completely stock, and not rooted.
Just installed CPU spy, wasnt sure if I needed to be rooted to run this, but it installed fine and seems to be working.
Anything you need me/us to run and get some clock speeds?
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Here are my results on performance, doesn't appear to break 1400.
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David Dee said:
Here are my results on performance, doesn't appear to break 1400.
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Wow, sure would love me some pie after seeing your attachment.....
Why does it say unused states..1600 and 1500mhz....are these available and not used?
Mcoupe said:
Wow, sure would love me some pie after seeing your attachment.....
Why does it say unused states..1600 and 1500mhz....are these available and not used?
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This is using system tuner. You just asked the million dollar question??
This is the specs: for the Tegra 3 chip, Asus chose not to use the 1.5 and clock it down to 1.4/1.3 to save battery life most likely!
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Wow, sure would love me some pie after seeing your attachment.....
Why does it say unused states..1600 and 1500mhz....are these available and not used?
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it says unused states because although we do have those speeds in stock kernel, Asus has them disabled by default. only way to activate them is to root and use an app like EzOverclock or ATP tweaks App or vipermod to enable those overclocked speeds. the best one is Ezoverclock app. all you need to be is rooted. you install the app and you're instantly overclocked to top speed of 1.6Ghz. it changes the speeds on Asus quicksettings. after install, Performance mode will now be 1.6Ghz, balanced is 1.4Ghz and battery savings stays the same at 1Ghz. the other great thing about this app is that you can manually change what speed you want each power mode to be. after installing app, by default it'll be set to what I listed above. all those apps or programs are free and in developement section of prime.
edit: also rooting, unlocking device, and running a custom rom from developemnet section can overclock you also.
based on what people posted so far, it seems nvidia is just leasting the top speed capable on the chip, period. that top speed spec is actually for the new infinity pad. infinity pad will come stock with those top speeds of 1.5Ghz on single or 1.4Ghz on 4 cores.
My max is also at 1.4 GHz. Nothing above that has ever been reached.
Obviously I'm running stock.
Had also seen that they bump it to 1.5ghz..
And the specifications for HTC ONE X with Tegra 3 also shows the 1.5ghz..
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-x/#specs
Wonder If the devices that coming now have a little updated Tegra 3 chip. Can it be Tegra 3+ ?
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Ok, got ya.
Hope we helped with the discussion.
So at 1.6 are people noticing a big improvement in performance?
I guess the developed ROMS that we have available come with custom kernels? I see people pushing 1.8 and hoping for 2.0. How stable is such numbers, and are these modes raising temps and crushing battery life?
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Had also seen that they bump it to 1.5ghz..
And the specifications for HTC ONE X with Tegra 3 also shows the 1.5ghz..
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-x/#specs
Wonder If the devices that coming now have a little updated Tegra 3 chip. Can it be Tegra 3+ ?
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As far as I understand, on this side of the pond we wont have the Tegra 3 in the One X. It looks like we will get a dual core chip.
Andreas527 said:
Had also seen that they bump it to 1.5ghz..
And the specifications for HTC ONE X with Tegra 3 also shows the 1.5ghz..
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-x/#specs
Wonder If the devices that coming now have a little updated Tegra 3 chip. Can it be Tegra 3+ ?
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its not an updated tegra3 chip. exact same one in prime except on the software side they unlocked the higher speeds by default. out the box. with prime we already seeing those speeds and even higher being rooted and/or unlocked running custom roms or kernels. we even have achieved 1.8Ghz overclock now. really all you need is root to achieve 1.6Ghz. So technically prime already more powerful than these new tegra3 chips I'm future tablets, if rooted of course. Nvidia is skipping over the tegra3+ chip. they going straight tl Tegra4 which is expected to be keplar based. it will be on the 28 or 22nm die. meaning more power and more battery efficient. plus whatever bells n whistles nvidia adds tl it or tweaks it for. Tech sites expect Tegra4 to release q4 of this year. Tegra4 was already sent out to all major manufacturers back in December. so they testing it out now. Tegra4 will definitely change the market up again and something to be excited for.
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Ok, got ya.
Hope we helped with the discussion.
So at 1.6 are people noticing a big improvement in performance?
I guess the developed ROMS that we have available come with custom kernels? I see people pushing 1.8 and hoping for 2.0. How stable is such numbers, and are these modes raising temps and crushing battery life?
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As far as I understand, on this side of the pond we wont have the Tegra 3 in the One X. It looks like we will get a dual core chip.
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yes, thanks for the quick tests from everyone. it was helpful in trying to figure out if new specs was included in new update.
yes 1.6Ghz gives it a very good boost in performance. thing is prime performs great on stock speeds also. but overclocking to 1.6Ghz will make it that much more faster. web pages will load alot faster. ui will be alot faster.
another trick to speed up your prime is to go into settings. then go into developer options. enable the force gpu rendering. I've been running this for a while and seen a big boost in performance and fluidity of the UI and other things. even in web browsing. you can also cut off the windows and transition animations. cutting those off will make everything nearly instant. like switching between apps, going from one screen to homescreen, etc...all of that will dramatically make your prime feel faster. all transitions will be instant instead of slight pause or gradual transition. screens will instantly pop to the next.
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This is the specs: for the Tegra 3 chip, Asus chose not to use the 1.5 and clock it down to 1.4/1.3 to save battery life most likely!
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Or to improve yields; this is the first Tegra 3 product ever. I'm sure there were fabrication teething issues.
I thought those were newer revision/step of the same Tegra3 chip. ARM recently started offering a "Processor Optimization Pack" for A9s.
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I thought those were newer revision/step of the same Tegra3 chip. ARM recently started offering a "Processor Optimization Pack" for A9s.
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Any links? As I've never seen any tech articles speak of it or mentioned an upgraded tegra3 chip. All talk has been on tegra3 itself or more recently tegra4 talk has been popping up alot more lately.
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it says unused states because although we do have those speeds in stock kernel, Asus has them disabled by default. only way to activate them is to root and use an app like EzOverclock or ATP tweaks App or vipermod to enable those overclocked speeds. the best one is Ezoverclock app. all you need to be is rooted. you install the app and you're instantly overclocked to top speed of 1.6Ghz. it changes the speeds on Asus quicksettings. after install, Performance mode will now be 1.6Ghz, balanced is 1.4Ghz and battery savings stays the same at 1Ghz. the other great thing about this app is that you can manually change what speed you want each power mode to be. after installing app, by default it'll be set to what I listed above. all those apps or programs are free and in developement section of prime.
edit: also rooting, unlocking device, and running a custom rom from developemnet section can overclock you also.
based on what people posted so far, it seems nvidia is just leasting the top speed capable on the chip, period. that top speed spec is actually for the new infinity pad. infinity pad will come stock with those top speeds of 1.5Ghz on single or 1.4Ghz on 4 cores.
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Thanks for the info on overclocking. We had talked about it before when I first say the higher speeds (disabled) and we talked about battery life - Good if you only run overclock for games & stuff, if I recall correctly. I have wanted to overclock for some time, but have been resistant to leaving it oc'd. What is the best way to toggle the OC on and off, vs. removing the app: Should I just run balanced for most use, then flip to performance for gaming, etc?
EDIT: Also if Nvidia is stating those are the top speed capabilities, does that dash hopes for craking these up to 1.7 / 1.8 and beyond? (To Asus Eee Pad Infinity... And beyond!) If so, that kinda sucks, though the tablet is plenty fast as it stands... we all like to see how far we can take stuff though... It's our nature. I have a 12 Cylinder Jaguar and it was hopelessly under tuned and oversmogged putting out just over 300 hp. Not any more, hehe...
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As far as I understand, on this side of the pond we wont have the Tegra 3 in the One X. It looks like we will get a dual core chip.
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ACTUALLY the AT&T HTC One X with S4 snap dragon chip, release date just got pushed back toMay 6th. http://www.talkandroid.com/103253-a...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
A GOOD REASON for that could be because there were various reports a few weeks back that qualcomm was having manufacturing issues with the S4 snapdragon chip. Production had completely stopped for some reason. Some kind of manufacturing problem that was said to lead to most device announced having Snapdragon S4 chip being delayed. The source on manufacturing issue was posted in that thread. That was a couple or a few weeks back when I posted that. I think S4 chip hasn't been produced in any real bulk amount yet, especially with issues with their manufacturing process that caused S4 production to stop.
So the longer S4 chip gets delayed, the better it will be for Tegra3. It'll be that much longer Tegra3 holding superiority over other android chips. If the first S4 chip having tablet doesn't show till may or June at earliest, then Tegra3 would've secured top spot in Android for 6months. FOR a chip to be successful in mobile market it really only needs to be dominant for 4-6 months. This is based off of how fast the mobile tech industry is moving.
I ran a benchmark on Antutu and it showed a CPU frequency of 1600.. See attached.
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demandarin said:
So the longer S4 chip gets delayed, the better it will be for Tegra3. It'll be that much longer Tegra3 holding superiority over other android chips. If the first S4 chip having tablet doesn't show till may or June at earliest, then Tegra3 would've secured top spot in Android for 6months. FOR a chip to be successful in mobile market it really only needs to be dominant for 4-6 months. This is based off of how fast the mobile tech industry is moving.
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I had been meaning to start a thread about something like this......
Galaxy S3....what is Nvidea's thought on the Exynos quad core chip. Lots of rumors have that clocked at 1.8-2.0 mhz and with 2gb of RAM.
If this holds true, it looks like this phone will be more powerful than our Prime.
David Dee said:
I ran a benchmark on Antutu and it showed a CPU frequency of 1600.. See attached.
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OK, what exactly is going on here....
SmartAs$Phone said:
Thanks for the info on overclocking. We had talked about it before when I first say the higher speeds (disabled) and we talked about battery life - Good if you only run overclock for games & stuff, if I recall correctly. I have wanted to overclock for some time, but have been resistant to leaving it oc'd. What is the best way to toggle the OC on and off, vs. removing the app: Should I just run balanced for most use, then flip to performance for gaming, etc?
EDIT: Also if Nvidia is stating those are the top speed capabilities, does that dash hopes for craking these up to 1.7 / 1.8 and beyond? (To Asus Eee Pad Infinity... And beyond!) If so, that kinda sucks, though the tablet is plenty fast as it stands... we all like to see how far we can take stuff though... It's our nature. I have a 12 Cylinder Jaguar and it was hopelessly under tuned and oversmogged putting out just over 300 hp. Not any more, hehe...
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the best and easiest overclocking method is simply installing EzOverclock app. all you have to be is rooted. as soon as you install it. you're instantly overclocked. your Asus power mode quicksettings are instantly changed also. immediately after install, your performance mode is 1.6Ghz, balanced is 1.4Ghz, and battery savings mode stays the same at 1Ghz. Now you can easily change any of those modes within the app if you choose. my setup is Performance 1.6Ghz, balanced is 1.2Ghz, and battery savings is 1Ghz. So I normally run on balanced mode(1.2Ghz). whenever I want to run on 1.6Ghz, I just press Asus quicksetting Performance mode. remember that when ever the tablet resets or powers off and on, it'll default to balanced mode(for me 1.2Ghz).
so this app makes it seemless and simple to overclock. you use the regular asus power modes like you always do. then the ability to changes the speeds of those modes of you choose is priceless.
I have been using EZoverclock since day 1 I got my Prime. Running Eco Mode at 1 GHz, Balanced at 1 GHz too and Performance to 1.6GHz.
I hate how the screen looks in eco mode, so im almost always in balanced @1ghz, so far i can play anything, even 1080p videos thru HDMI withouth lag, and still have great battery.
For heavier stuff, multi task and so on, then to super 1.6ghz mode it goes
So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I meant without root. Are phones actually more powerful now?
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Yes and no. True, they are clocked higher but, the internal processor is exactly the same in terms of speed and power. The RAM is also the same (1GB) except for that new LG phone which has 2 and is coming out in some Asian country later this year.
Also quadrant means nothing, were getting to the point where lower quadrants may mean better devices, let me explain.
A GOOD processor setup will clock down when in low power mode and when there is a high demand clock up to deal with it. Quadrant does not always throw enough weight to kickstart that high performance mode in all setups, so sometimes it tests lower than it should.
You also have to remember that quadrant tests IO of everything. If you have a better processor but, say, slower memory, you will test LOWER on quadrant even tho you have a better processor. If someone with, say a Galaxy S I9000 has an uber C10 micro SD and has the system loaded on that the IO for that system will be very high and even tho its only a 1ghz phone it could, in theory, quadrant higher than the TF201.
This is why i hate quadrant tests, they are flawed and i have seen roms that are meant to test high on quadrant and nothing else, and believe me for every day use they are SLOW.
Rest assured at this point theres only really one major quad core mobile processor. The 201 has it. The 300 has a lower clocked version of the same chip. The 700 is going to have a higher clocked version of the same chip. From a PROCESSOR standpoint, they are virtually identical.
Now when you say powerful, the galaxy S 3 (rumored) will definately have the potential to one up the prime. Usually samsung goes for lower res screens so the GPU doesnt have to work as hard, they have a customized chip so the processor may be slightly higher, and when factoring in other things (USB OTG, MHL abilities, Camera resolutions, etc.) it MAY be considered more powerful.
For now, tho, the prime is one of the top dogs. Maybe not THE top dog, but definitely a contender. Just remember: Theres always a bigger fish.
I concur with you fine sir.
These quadrant scores comparing processors should be ran to benchmark just the processor not everything else. That would at least give you comparable results.
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Thanks
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Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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thispaininmyhead said:
Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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there are differences. plus 300 can never reach primes overclocked speeds. their Max overclock now is 1.5Ghz.(and that comes from an app made for prime) prime is 1.8-1.9Ghz(from prime kernel developers) there are several different variants of tegra3. ive seen an overclocked 300 compared to a prime at same speed and prime still scores alot higher in benchmarks(just an example as benchmarks don't really translate to real life performance).
if you want performance, prime is your best bet. plus prime developement scene is 6months ahead of 300. more roms, more performance. if you want to save money, get a 300. its still cool. just not as powerful as prime and display not as good.
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Are all the transformer quad cores the same core hardware clocked at different speeds or is the hardware actually different in each model? Wondering if the extra speed is worth the money or if I should just overclock the tf300t... Really only worried about performance...
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There is a review of the 300 on DL that showed the different Tegra3 types. It proved the 201 the better Tablet over others, but gave 300 props.
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