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I'm fairly disappointed in this battery and will start gathering benchmark metrics,asking others to do the same for more data points and what does and doesnt work to increase.
Currently I have disabled sense ui and reduced widgets down to hardly anything, just a search and taskiller. I seem to get around 10 hours with moderate usage (occasional short call, several texts and quick searches, etc) letting android download background data and check google accounts email, contacts and calendar (this really is the power of the phone, cloud syncing pim). Weather, stocks and other "widgetable" apps are refreshed only on demand.
It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
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It's worse than I thought. I went less than 6 hours today with only one quick call (<1 minute) a few youtube clips and 2 texts. I noticed the phone was pretty warm in my pocket compared to my HTC touch (it actually felt cold sometimes if left on the desk) and a few times I noticed that there would be no radio "bars" but most of the time I had 3-4 out of 5 bars (I never have recetpion problems where I am) leading me to believe that something goofy is going on with the radio. I am going to reset since my testing is over today!!
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Whit what tool did you test it?
It's still to early to tell but I'm seeing decent battery life. Better than my pre but not great. Certainly acceptable considering I'm playing with it all the time since its new.
i also am seeing bad battery life.. i had court yesterday, and had it OFF most of the day.. and it was dead last night, i turned it on after court.
anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
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I just looked at battery usage in Spare Parts at various parts of the day and input this manually to minitab. No special app or anything.
slackwaresupport said:
anyone notice this:
the website has extra batteries
http://nextelonline.nextel.com/NASA...oryID=BSH5110&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0
they say 1340mAh. mine says 1500mAh
do you guys think thats a mistake?
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I read that the European version has a small battery, but because it is GSM is supposed to have as good or better battery life than the CDMA version.
The GSM Hero has a 1350mAh battery, and battery life is reportedly slightly better than the Sprint Hero even with its more capacious battery. As you correctly surmise, this is due to the Sprint being a CDMA network.
Why Sprint would want to sell a lower capacity battery though, I've no idea!
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Dave
my battery didn't last a full day either
I am into my 3rd day of usage (on single charge) on my week old hero.
Running on 2G network, turning off all data connectivity, manual reduce screen brightness, minimum vibrate and sound notifications for typing and applications
I have a Sprint Hero and the battery is at half strength not too long after lunch. But since I've only had the phone 3 days, I probably am playing with it more than usual. I'm guessing Seido will come out with an extended life, same size battery. They did with my Touch and it was great! It was very handy having a spare battery when I was out for a long period of time, away from anywhere to charge the phone.
Im also into my 3rd day of usage, and been off the charger all day today... had a couple calls, couple texts, bout 3hrs worth of browsing/facebook/twitter... down to about 60% as we speak so i know its a vast improvement from my tp... hell, 2 hrs of anything on that phone and it would be below 50 percent before the day even really started lol...
There are a number of things you can do to help improve battery life.
1 ) Turn off Wifi autodiscovery. You can always turn it on again if you are at a spot where you know you have a good wifi connection and plan on using it. My Hero was constantly telling me about wifi hotspots that I was driving past. I've found a number of widgets that will turn wifi on with one push.
2 ) Set Twitter, Facebook, and or email to check for updates less often than stock. I don't remember exactly what mine was set to at the beginning, but one of the first things I did was set Twitter to every four hours and Facebook to every two hours.
3 ) GPS is also a battery eater. Turn it off unless you need it.
4 ) Whenever you get a new phone, you ( well, I do, I'm just assuming that you do, too. ) use the heck out of it, playing with settings, seeing what all the programs do, downloading apps and games. Battery life should pick up as the newness wears off.
If you guys want a little more juice, Seidio just came out with a 1750mAh battery that fits in your device's existing battery space and doesn't require a replacement door.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17htp2.htm
Problem is, whats the point of having a phone designed to have al lthese features if you can't use them as the battery just dies.
My T-Mobile G2 / Hero dies so quick it's annoying.
Yes I've been doing lots of stuff with it this week but to have to turn of 3G to save battery is a laugh. My old Sony phone uses 3G etc and it can last a good two days without charge.
I've kept my 3G on but have kept all the updates to minimum amounts or to be done manually.
Background data also turned off most of the time but again, if it's required, then we shouldn't have to turn off.
It's about time batteries were developed or the companies actually provide longer life ones.
All the testers reviewes keep going on about how great the battery life is doing all these things and stuff, what batteries have they been given to use compared to the rest of us I wonder?
I just bought a Droid X2, but have decided to take it back for an LTE phone before the change in unlimited data.
I really don't like the way the charge looks, but it seems to be just as good as the TB. The TB has the likely potential to have a better community and better roms.
However I cannot have a phone that cant hold a charge for a whole day. And I do keep my phones for the 2 year duration of the contract, so whatever I get I need to be happy with.
I get the idea that the TB lasts between 4 and 8 hours. Is this a hardware issue, or is it the ROM which would be fixed as time progresses?
It is pretty bad. If you live in a 4G area, you should get the extended battery.
There are some settings tweaks, especially in the stock ROM, that help tremendously. The notification/background data is what kills the battery.
I always get at least 8 hrs with normal to heavy use.
But if your streaming video constantly, yeah like 4 hrs.
Most I have seen is around 20 hrs.
Seems like it always dies with about 4 hours of awake time or actual usage.
In a 4G area. And I think it will get better with hopefully a new OTA.
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If you are going to play with ROM's, standard battery life is real bad. I loose about 25% of the battery, 4G downloading, then flashing 1 ROM!
Add 2 hours worth of on anf off fiddling with the screens and setups takes it down to 40% remaining, then I have to turn off wifi, and 4G to get through the workday, ending <10%. If I do 2 ROM's, i'm dead before lunch. Gotta get a cable for work.
Get the extended battery. Mine lasts typically a day and a half with it, moderate usage. Awesome phone.
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I can get a full day out of my phone with moderate use (texting, calls, web browsing). I have my settings tweaked and have juice defender running which really helps. I'm on stock ROM and am not rooted, there is a lot you can do to improve the battery.
Well if you use your phone as much as I do then you would be surprised how quickly the Barry drains out haha
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Mine is usually 60-85% display, and I have it on dead minimum brightness unless I'm outside in the sun, in which case I set it to auto for a few minutes. Mind you, that's maybe five or ten minutes max of screen on time, two or three times a week. On the other hand, a twenty or thirty minute phone call can take ten percent off; I'm one of the people who sometimes remembers that it can make calls, too, so my experience is probably a bit off. I also have most everything set to sync every 2 hours, but I have imo.im running constantly.
If I'm using it pretty heavily, it may be down to 40-60% on the standard battery by lunch, which would be about three or four hours of screen on time. I'm in a 3G area, btw. I just carry a charger; which has the advantage of making other microUSB people happy when their phones die (and we can mock the iPeople with proprietary chargers). Yes, the battery sucks, but every phone has trade-offs.
If you won't have any way to charge the phone (car, wall, etc) during the day, then I don't think you will be happy with the phone. Between my wall charger (or USB cable), car charger, and two batteries (spare is the Seidio 1600 mAh), I'm satisfied.
As for the Droid Charge, the Touchwiz UI compared to Sense is a non-starter.
Is it bad? Yeah, seems like. Is it as bad as everyone is making it out to be? I dunno. I remember a lot of people complaining about the battery when I got the Incredible. With light use (about an hour of internet and email over 3G, one or two half hour calls, and a handful of texts), I'd charge it every other night (and have 30% or so when it went on the charger).
I picked up the Thunderbolt yesterday and charged it overnight. It came off the charger at 7:30 this morning, and I'm showing 54% as I'm typing this at 8:45pm. Since it's new, I was probably fiddling with it more than usual (but not a ton more, as the differences between the Thunderbolt and the Incredible aren't huge).
So with 4G on, yeah, it runs it's battery down faster than my old Incredible. But it seems like I can make it through a day without much difficulty.
EDIT: I figure I might as well mention my settings.
I have the brightness set to about 30%. I shut off any and all vibration. Screen timeout is 1 minute, volume is maxed for everything. Bluetooth and GPS are off (unless I need them). The weather widget updates every three hours. I don't use any other widgets that use data (just a volume profile and a power control widget). The phone can do background sync for my contacts, but my gmail, other mail, and Twitter (Seesmic) are all set to update manually.
I'm getting about 8 hours of moderate usage here as well. I've come to terms with the fact that using a device that is more powerful than my netbook will come with some battery trade-offs.
hey guys,
I'm going to follow this thread for a bit. My HD2 jumped into the Harbor yesterday and will probably be switching to Verizon for my next phone. I'd really like to get the TB, but am really concerned about battery life.
It sounds like people are getting a battery life similar to what I was getting running Gingerbread off the SD card on my HD2...which didn't quite cut it for me on days I was working in the field and not able to charge. But at least with the HD2 I could run WinMo on days like that and not have worry.
Keep the info coming!
thanks
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I can get a full day out of my phone with moderate use (texting, calls, web browsing). I have my settings tweaked and have juice defender running which really helps. I'm on stock ROM and am not rooted, there is a lot you can do to improve the battery.
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Hello, im currently running with juice defender, but i was wondering if you could help me with what all settings i should tweak to help the battery?
After applying the MR1 OTA update I still wasn't happy with my battery or GPS performance, especially compared to my past phones (Incredible, X, original droid, blackberries, etc)...
After doing a wipe and reloading the apps I use by hand, I have seen battery life match the Inc in 3g only areas, and GPS lock on my location consistently in under 7 seconds.
In mixed 3g/4g areas (where I live), similar results. Battery life and GPS lock are very much improved. And the TB now makes it through the day for me.
In solid 4g areas, well, last night I was surfing the web, reading, looking to see if the GB update for the X had hit. I went to bed around 1 am with 80% battery, didn't hook to charger. This morning at 9 when I looked it had received some emails and auto updated some apps.. battery was at 55% so that is better.
It's still not as good as my droid x, but the TB is certainly more usable than when I first got it a month and a half or two months ago.
The t-bolt is better than my inc was, with bams GB rom I got 12 hours of heavy use with stock battery....my 2 cents...
I just tested my battery life. It was about 2 hours with Carl pagan cosmos on 2g. 4g really eats the battery. After I recharge, I'm going try it over 3g and see if that makes any huge differences.
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Hey guys... I finally updated my E3D with that update. My sister and dad both updated theirs when they first got it.
I'm getting really good battery life. Minimal usage yesterday, but after 16+ hours I still had more than 60%... I even played a little N64oid.
However, my sister and my dad both get pretty bad - decent battery life. My dad doesn't use the phone nearly as much as me.
I wish I knew what settings are doing it. We all have the same settings but my idle time loses me like 2-3%/hr but for them it can be up to 7-10%/hr.
Anyone in a household with more than a couple E3D's getting this varied battery life?
Settings are virtually the same, and location isn't a big factor either.
A lot of things impact battery. If the settings are the same across all phones perhaps the drain is app related. If you really want to test you should factory reset all phones and then check. This way all truly have same settings and apps. I would bet at that point they all drain the same.
I did the OTA and my battery life shot up instantly.
Before the OTA I would have around 15 hours of light to moderate use of text, calls, and browsing before it hit 50 percent. Now, I would basically do the same things but I can go a full day before it hits 70 percent.
I bet you they use the phone more...calls..facebook....etc..friend of mine gets couple hours...and he plays games non stop.
how long dos your battery last WITH THE SCREEN ON with and without 4g poll
I can't tell you the time without, but I can say 4+ hours with. Wifi/GPS etc. turned off however.
I can get away with charging it every second day with light use.
Now THAT IS an interesting question. Gonna try this next day off rofl.
xD
well reading over all these battery threads they brag nonstop about godlike battery life i highly doubt them and because of their incessant bragging over 2 days of battery doing blah blah people assume something is wrong with their battery. i highly invite them to take this poll and see their actual screen on time they guess that they played for 15 - 30 mins when it was only ten or so , this poll ought to straighten things out so we actually know wether these battery issues are normal for everyone.
This pool is a bit too restricting. There are other things that impact battery life... like screen brightness and haptic feedback to name two.
I can say My phone lasts, every day, from 9am to 2am with moderate use, about 4 hours screen on.
I cant turn off 4g, but on my phone I get 24hrs use with 5hrs screen time with Wifi on 7-8hrs. I use autobrightness, have next to no widgets, and a static wallpaper.
The reviews I have seen make it seem like the battery life should be much better though.
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As the lady said in Full Metal Jacket, "Me love you long time."
In all honesty I'm a little disappointed with the battery life on my Atrix. I pretty much bought this phone as a replacement over my iPhone 3GS, because the battery would barley last 2 days with little to no use, but I can't say the Atrix provides much improvement either. With minimal use I'd get around 2 days of battery with my Atrix. Today I charged my phone at 7:30PM and with little use (maybe 20min in total) the battery is at 80% after 10 hours. Either this is normal or mine is faulty, cause the area around near the main front buttons and where the Moto blur logo is on the back constantly gets warm during normal use. I've had the phone for a little over a week now, so if I'm the only one having these issues then maybe I should go to a Bell store and exchange it for a new one.
First of all, let me say thanks to Scott for all of his work on CleanRom. I know there has been a lot of discussion lately in his thread about battery usage. Some people are getting outstanding battery life and some people can't make it more than a few hours. I have been one of the people that can't make it more than a few hours no matter what I do. I did a clean wipe of everything before installing the ROM and have even tried to reinstall. The odd thing is my wife's phone does fantastic with this ROM. I finally decided to test things side by side lastnight. My phone should have had the clear advantage because I turned off all syncing options and froze any apps that had been downloaded just to make sure there was nothing running. Meanwhile, her phone syncs like crazy to facebook, email, etc and also has various apps running like weatherbug. I let them both sit overnight and after ~9hrs here are the stats I measured:
Battery % left : 79% (mine) vs 88% (hers)
Data used overnight: 75kb (mine) vs 744kb (hers)
Time awake: 3min 32sec (mine) vs 9 min 42sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 9hr 19mins (mine) vs 9hr 6min (hers)
Everything points to the fact that I should easily have more life left than hers. I am also attaching a couple of screenshots and the betterbatterystats files to this post. Maybe we can track down why everyone's battery life is so different. Tonight I plan to swap batterys between the phones to try to determine if my battery is the problem.
wow that's pretty good on your wife's phone but horrible for yours especially considering you turned off syncing.
I agree. I have no doubt that her phone could easily still be at 95% or more if I made all of the same adjustments to hers as I did to mine. That is why I am hoping someone on here with more knowledge about this stuff can help to determine what is going on.
It honestly might just be a faulty battery, I was having similar results with mine and my friend's phone, too. I tried multiple ROMs, Kernels, etc. But it slowly got worse and worse to the point that I would go down from 100% to 60% in little over an hour, doing nothing but listening to music with the screen off and auto-sync etc off. I bought a replacement battery, though. And this one is working just fine. You might just be having bad battery luck, or it might be your device, I know some people have returned their Rezounds because of battery life/heat problems, and the replacement generally fixes their woes.
so what did your betterybattery stats report?
Thanks for running this test. It would be very helpful to everyone if you could pinpoint this to a battery difference and I'm waiting to hear your results after the battery swap.
What helped my battery life most was to uncheck the box under "settings -> applications -> start automatically" It has something to do with a task manager. It probably wouldn't explain why your wife's phone does better but it could help both of you get better battery life.
bik- The betterbatterystats file is attached. I see a lot of activity on her phone but very little for mine. The only thing that stands out to me is I have alarmmanager waking my phone for 10 mins and she had it waking hers for only 5 mins. I am not sure exactly what alarmmanager is though.
HTGaming- Thank you for the suggestion but I have already done that as well. I think I have literally turned off everything possible on this phone because it is driving me nuts to burn through battery like this. My OG droid used to us 30% in a day max and now I burn through that in an hour if I am using the phone for anything at all. Pretty much the only thing I had running on the phone lastnight was 4g service which her phone also had.
Another thing you can do to compare the two phones is to install battery monitor widget to see what the drain is on the phones. I used to have decent battery life but ever since the update, it's been worse. The one thing I noticed is that now my phone draws more current when sleeping than it used to. The drain is consistently close to 300ma, whereas before it would be less than 200ma when sleeping.
You have to have the widget on for the monitoring to be active unless you change the preferences.
I swapped the battery's lastnight and here's the results. Hers is still clearly better than mine even though betterbatterystats shows way more activity on her phone again.
Battery % left : 84% (mine) vs 90% (hers)
Data used overnight: 279kb (mine) vs 498kb (hers)
Time awake: 5min 32sec (mine) vs 12 min 8sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 7hr 58mins (mine) vs 7hr 59min (hers)
Someone posted that they saw different PRIs on phones even after the OTA. Do your two phones have the same PRIs?
damnn thats just weird
Im starting to think that some Rezound batches are differently tweaked than others. My first Rezound had great battery, I would stream music for 5-6 hours on 4G and would still be above 60%. My last two however were completely horrible, on 4-5 hours standby it losses closed to 20% with lil to no use. Same settings/apps as my first Rez. I regret returning my first Rezound, it truly was the perfect phone.
There really has to be a reason why some come with a 3.8 V bat. opposed to a 3.7 V. HTC wouldn't just send out two different types of battery for no reason.
You are missing 1 key info in your analysis, which people always seem to leave out when talking about battery life. The screen on time. I see in in the graphs but it's hard to tell the exact number. Because of the 720p screen on our phones, that makes a big difference. When my screen is on, the phone uses up at least 600 ma/hr. That is conservative, usually it is more like 700-800. We'll assume 600 for now. That's 10 ma/minute. Based on the stock battery, that is 0.6% per minute. So having a difference in screen on time of 10 minutes will give you 6% difference in battery life.
i am also unable to go for even most of a day on one battery charge - and i have 3 extra batteries that were from ebay that dont work even that long...
i do notice it when the screen is on the most - yest i used the gps for an hour and a hlaf without plugging the phone in and my battery lasted about 3 hours after that and died....
very bad....
very interested to see if its the phone or not - great work...
I'll try to answer a couple of questions in here. I got very frustrated yesterday so I flashed an ICS rom to see how my phone did with it. It is equally as bad. This morning, I got into work with 97% life, checked my email for about 2 mins and was already down to 90%. I have the screen display set to 30% brightness too. I am amazed that people can used 2-3 hours of display and still have 70% battery after 10 hours. My screen at 30% brightness probably drains 2% per minute. I think tonight I am going to try to install one of the stock RUU's just to check and see if the OTA upgrade possibly didn't install itself correctly.
HTGaming - I will check the PRI's tonight.
Bluesnake - Both phones were purchased the same day so I would guess they are from similar if not the same batch. Both have 3.7 batteries. Infact when I first got my phone, I could have display on auto, sync everything every half hour, use the screen for random browsing throughout the day and still go home with over 70% left. Somewhere along the line my phone has developed some sort of draining problem though and no amounts of clean installs seem to fix it.
b5fan - Both phones were off the entire night. I think screen usage was maybe 10 seconds for both of them. They literally just sat there on the nightstand while we slept and mine drained 2x faster with nothing running while hers ran facebook, email etc.
I checked the PRI on both phones and they are the same. I re-ran the stock RUU tonight so I will see if that makes any difference. I highly doubt it will but I am running out of ideas.
I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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The screen time was probably just from me getting all of the data off in the morning like the screenshots and battery stats. Her email was on push and my email was set to not sync at all. Basically she had a fully functional phone and mine was set to do nothing which is why the battery drain is so hard to explain.
I did run the stock RUU image lastnight for my phone. I put it in airplane mode overnight and it was at 97% when I got up which is a huge improvement. I took it off airplane mode at 6am today and when I got to work at 7am, it was down to 90% so I guess I am in wait and see mode now. I have no email accounts/facebook accounts/ or anything else setup right now. It is only the stock image so there should be nothing draining battery today.
I can confirm the phone is no better now after the clean RUU install. Let it sit overnight and it was down to 80% this morning. I did not even setup any email accounts or download any apps yet. This is just the stock image from verizon.