From what I read in the manual, USB charging should work for the tablet, but not the dock? When I have USB plugged in (to either a PC or an ipad charger) there is no indication of charging (but USB connected shows in system Panel)
Is this normal?
That's normal for the original Transformer and does agree with the Prime manual the way I interpret it.
Are you trying a USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 port? It may charge from a USB 3.0 port, which is what the charger's USB port is. I've never tried charging from a USB 3.0 port, in spite of actually having a new PC here with one.
My charging setup is to have the ASUS charger plugged in to a power strip, I then have a six foot USB 3.0 cable extension, then the standard short ASUS USB 3.0 to 40-pin tablet cable. This works great.
Bye.
tshoulihane said:
From what I read in the manual, USB charging should work for the tablet, but not the dock? When I have USB plugged in (to either a PC or an ipad charger) there is no indication of charging (but USB connected shows in system Panel)
Is this normal?
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mine will not charge from just USB either I have to use the power brick that came with it.
ok, I hadn't realised the port was usb3. Makes sense, even if it is a little annoying to have to always have the charger (like if I want to charge in the car)
Are there any car chargers that would work with the Prime?
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Are there any car chargers that would work with the Prime?
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I am sure there probably is but I just use a inverter thingy that gives you a regular plug outlet I will link you the one I have it's really nice has a USB port too
www.amazon.com/Stanley-PC1A09-Power...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325981745&sr=1-1
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Hello
As you know, our device doesnt get charged by the USB cable it comes with (or veeeeeery slow).
As I have a solar charging device with USB slots, I need a compatible USB cable. Somehow it has to work, is there some converter or something ?
Thanks!
Dominik
Eh? My device charges just fine with the included cable.
You will have trouble charging it from a solar powered USB charger as I'm guessing it will only put out 5V at maybe 500mA. That's not enough to juice the TF. It's not the cable though.
Because ASUS used a USB connector on its cable, unfortunately does *not* mean this USB connector 100% follows the specifications for USB.
It has a trick, whereby, when connecting to your PC it works like USB at 5v. But, when connecting to a 15v charger it switches to use 15v instead.
The TF charging indicator, and Android OS battery settings, only indicate charging when 15v applied. At 5v it may trickle charge with screen & wifi & ??? turned OFF. I never try charging at 5v because it is too slow.
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I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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I don't think it charges at all at 5v?
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It will, provided you have the amperage. But its only trickle so its only really charging with the screen off and charges slower than the tablet uses battery.
I have noticed the NT only charges when using the AC charger and not when connected to a PC like phones. It even has to use the cable it came with as normal micro usb cables do not work (not for charging anway). Is this right or is this posdibly a hidden setting somewhere I have missed?
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I have noticed the NT only charges when using the AC charger and not when connected to a PC like phones. It even has to use the cable it came with as normal micro usb cables do not work (not for charging anway). Is this right or is this posdibly a hidden setting somewhere I have missed?
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The computer does not provide enough amps to charge it. The first day I got mine I plugged the usb into a phone wall charger and it indicated it was charging but didnt seem to be increasing charge. I left it overnight and when I woke up i checked the charge...it didnt budge. I looked at the two wall chargers. The phone charger is a 1 amp charger while the nook charger is 1.9amp. Considering a usb from the computer only provides .5 amps there is no way it will charge.
This is the same as the nookcolor. They use the same charger and have the same limitations.
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In addition to the current difference, the cable that comes with the NC or NT has a different MicroUSB end. It is a little longer to reach the higher current pins. There are several discussions in the NC Accessories forum that go into the details.
The NC can charge via pc, as long as the usb hub is powered, or the usb ports are powered, with the provided cable micro usb cable.
Other tablets can charge over .5amp USB so it should work on the NT unless they intentionally designed it to be limited. The Lenovo ThinkPad tablet and iPad both worked via .5amp USB. Just very slowly (had to put iPad in sleep mode).
EDIT: iPad 1 for clarification, never owned the second.
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I have a newer motherboard (Gigabyte Z68XP-UD4)
when I plug my Nook Tablet into the front USB, it doesn't charge. But I just plugged it in at about 80% power into the rear USB that was red and labelled "3x USB Power" and it charged WHILE I was transferring files.
I didn't know it was charging until I plugged it into the AC and it showed 100%.
I can confirm it with video evidence if you need it because I'm not one to spread misinformation.
My Giga X58A-UD7 will charge mine too. The option must be enabled in The BIOS in order for the additional Amps to be dispensed. And, it will only work on the onboard (rear) USB ports.
Am I correct in thinking that the USB Standard must include a provision for optional high power pins that may not be present in all USB cables - or chargers?
If I have a standard microUSB cable, can I use my 3x port to charge my NT or do I need to use the special longer connector cable that came with the NT?
Another poster said the Nook USB connector was actually longer, so the high power pins would reach the recessed ones.
Bottom line - don't assume just any cable will work.
Are thenook color and tablet chargers the same? im looking to pick up a spare on ebay,
It's the same thing as the ipad. It will say not charging but it actually does just reaaaaaaaaaaally slow.
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Are thenook color and tablet chargers the same? im looking to pick up a spare on ebay,
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They appear to be the same or at least work the same. I have one charger downstairs and one upstairs and the tablet and color charge fine on either one. Just make sure to use the B&N cable, unless you want to wait a while.
So does anybody know where we can pick up chargers cheap? I already have like 5 micro usb chargers and it sucks I cant use them.
AFAIK the NT and NC use the same power supply. My NC with CM 7.1 draws about 600-700 milliamps (according to the Battery Monitor Widget). I have successfully charged it from a PC using a standard micro USB cable. Here's the catch:
- when you connect the tablet to the charger it will turn on. Power down the tablet completely. It will then charge, but takes about 12 hours.
NT uses a 12pin micro USB cable as NC, it seems a special standard, if we use standard 5pin micro USB, only connect to computer is OK, but seems have some trouble to charge, could we find any replacement one?
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NT uses a 12pin micro USB cable as NC, it seems a special standard, if we use standard 5pin micro USB, only connect to computer is OK, but seems have some trouble to charge, could we find any replacement one?
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You'll need to purchase from B&N (unless somebody else can find another source). It is unique. If you look at it, the connector not only has 12 pins, but is longer. The extra length is what initiates contact for charging.
Although its slower to charge attached to the PC (500mA instead of 2A), it does charge. I left mine overnight and it was fully charged using a standard micro-usb cable.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab is like this. There is a software work around that makes it charge faster over USB (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323957). This gives hope that someday we get similar functionality.
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Although its slower to charge attached to the PC (500mA instead of 2A), it does charge. I left mine overnight and it was fully charged using a standard micro-usb cable.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab is like this. There is a software work around that makes it charge faster over USB (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323957). This gives hope that someday we get similar functionality.
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I have heard it will only charge on PC via USB if the screen is off. Otherwise, it uses too much power to really charge it.
What would happen if I put the USB port into a power adapter? I use them to charge my phones when I don't have access to my laptop's USB ports.
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What would happen if I put the USB port into a power adapter? I use them to charge my phones when I don't have access to my laptop's USB ports.
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Make sure it provides the correct amount of power first.
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Although its slower to charge attached to the PC (500mA instead of 2A), it does charge. I left mine overnight and it was fully charged using a standard micro-usb cable.
My Samsung Galaxy Tab is like this. There is a software work around that makes it charge faster over USB (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323957). This gives hope that someday we get similar functionality.
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only the output will affect? if i found a charge head that provides 2A output will it work?
FWIW...
I tried using the official Nook cord with an Apple iPad (2 amp) usb charger. The NT never indicated that it was charging.
I tried using a quality micro USB cord with an iPad charger and with the official Nook charger, but it never indicated that it was charging.
I haven't tried a standard micro USB cord to a PC (yet).
So far, only official Nook cord and official Nook charger work for me. Alas.
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FWIW...
I tried using the official Nook cord with an Apple iPad (2 amp) usb charger. The NT never indicated that it was charging.
I tried using a quality micro USB cord with an iPad charger and with the official Nook charger, but it never indicated that it was charging.
I haven't tried a standard micro USB cord to a PC (yet).
So far, only official Nook cord and official Nook charger work for me. Alas.
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using the nook cord here with my htc phone charger. all works well
None of my generic USB cords work.
USB Extension cables appear to work with charger
I tried a USB extension cable with the Nook charger and it does work. That means, I think, that the A end of the USB is standard.
I know nobody wants to sacrifice the Nook cable but I'm surprised no one has done this yet. I thought at least the Nook Color cable would be cross-compatible with the NT and someone would have buzzed out the Color cable by now.
There's the bi-color charge LED, but I can't see how they could put a charge chip in there; no room.
This cable is unique....and poorly constructed/misaligned to the 2 prong AC adapter. The USB does not fully insert into the AC Adapter. If not perfectly placed/propped while plugged in to charge, the NT does not charge or charges slowly.
My remedy has been to move the NT closer to the plug so that there is little to no bend in the cable leading to NT.
Will B&N send another if I request online/call? Or, must I unroot and go to a B&N?
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FWIW...
I tried using the official Nook cord with an Apple iPad (2 amp) usb charger. The NT never indicated that it was charging.
I tried using a quality micro USB cord with an iPad charger and with the official Nook charger, but it never indicated that it was charging.
I haven't tried a standard micro USB cord to a PC (yet).
So far, only official Nook cord and official Nook charger work for me. Alas.
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I have an Apple USB extender between the Nook wall plug and USB cable. Charges fine.
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This cable is unique....and poorly constructed/misaligned to the 2 prong AC adapter. The USB does not fully insert into the AC Adapter.
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Yeah, it's terrible. I don't have any charging issues, but the misalignment causes a ton of electricity to leak, so don't leave it on a couch or a fuzzy blanket unless you want (shockingly) pleasant surprises for hours. I wish they would make an all-in-one-piece as well (do they? would be a good add-on). Sheesh, poor design.
With the billions and billions of 3rd party cords out there, it seems amazing that none exist for the nook tablet. I don't really wanna pay 30 bucks for a backup charger.
2mA too much?
I noticed that the official Nook charger output is rated at 1.9mA - I've just bought a generic 2.0mA USB plug adapter and am hoping that it will work with the existing Nook USB cable. I'm hoping the extra 100mA won't fry the thing...
The extra pins in the Micro end of the Nook USB cable are used to support the higher power draw of the Nook when charging at full rate (2.0A) since the max rated current of a Micro-USB connector is only 1.8A. I am sure they also use the additional pins to make the cable proprietary and possibly also control the bi-color LED. The extra pins are set further into the connector so that they do not cause compatibility problems with standard Micro-USB cables.
In addition to this, the charger brick that comes with the Nook has its Data lines shorted, to each other I believe, to indicate to the Nook that it is plugged into an adapter and not a computer.
The combination of those two things is what is needed for the Nook to charge at its full charge rate. Since the USB A end of the cable is a standard 4-pin design, extension cables that offer all 4 pins/wires will work fine.
The Apple adapter (even the 2.0A version) will not work because it uses a voltage divider (couple of resistors) on the data lines to indicate to the iPod/iPhone what style charger it is (1.0A or 2.0A). One of the data lines is held at 2.1V and the other at 2.7V. Depending on which one (D+ or D-) is at what voltage determines what style charger it is. So the Nook does not recognize the "non-zero" voltage values on the data lines and assumes it is a PC, so it will only charge at 500mA.
Other vendors power bricks use the same "short the data lines" trick as the Nook adapter so several others will work. I believe as mentioned already in this post that HTC uses this same method.
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Be careful though because if the adapter is rated at less than 2.0A (e.g. 1.0A) you could cause damage or fire. I am not sure if the Nook will slow down charging if it detects the charge voltage dropping if it is trying to pull too much power out of an underrated supply.
If you really want to use your Apple IPad adapter with your Nook Color/Tablet cable you could modify a USB A/A extension cable to disconnect the Data lines and then tie together only the data lines on the side of the cable that will go to the Nook. Again, this can be dangerous, I can not take any responsibility if you attempt to do this.
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USB A/A Extension Cable
[ ] GND ----------------------------------------------------- GND [ ]
[ ] D+ ------} <-tied to D- cut and taped-> D+ [ ]
[ Nook ] D- ------} <-tied to D+ cut and taped-> D- [ Adapter ]
[ ] +5V ----------------------------------------------------- +5V [ ]
AdamOutler has confirmed that it will charge on any usb cable, but the tab must be off and it will not show signs of charging. I'm pretty sure that this was charging from the computer.
My device battery is way low.. I'm charging on normal USB so it's trickling up at a rate of about 0x0010 per 2 minutes. At this rate, the device will be ready to use in aproximately 1.5 hours... And until then i'm sure nothing will show on the screen.
This may or may not apply to using the Barnes and Nobel cable. I do not have one available though.
So, if you ever come across a situation where the device won't turn on even after being plugged in, leave it plugged in for a few hours. It could have a case of the "sleeping death".
Also, I'm able to verify that the device... even when totally powered off will charge on a standard USB cable.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20905962&postcount=190
Has anyone else had issues with the end that plugs into the nook bending out of place and preventing the cable from working? Since its the cable that is not working and since the tab is still under warranty can I take it back and get the cable replaced for free?
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the charger brick that comes with the Nook has its Data lines shorted, to each other I believe, to indicate to the Nook that it is plugged into an adapter and not a computer.
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Ahhh... So we can't use a generic power brick or car charger and have the NT charge at full rate (unless we also muck with the USB cable). Thanks for this info!
Has anyone tried a USB female to female gender changer on the charging cable to hookup a thumb drive or controller?
Yep, tried a USB 2.0 and 3.0 adapter. No dice.
Damn! I really don't like that bulky usb adapter. I have a fear of breaking my port. The cable is bad enough.
You can build your own: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102049
At the end of the thread there are some photos of USB adapter board and the list of components you need.
EDIT: Found some pinout schema: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19566215&postcount=35
Hello,
I read that the USB to charge the ATP is a USB3.0.
On my desktop, I have such a plug. Do you think that it will charge at standard ASUS rate?
My USB 3.0 is on an quick-pci + molex connector, so it is powered by the desktop power-supply, so it should deliver the proper 15v, shouldn't it?
has anyone tried?
I routinely charge my Prime from my HP laptop's USB port. It takes a bit longer then the wall plug, but I do it at night when I am asleep, so it isn't a problem.
Bear in mind that your standard USB port delivers a limited amount of current. You can overdraw the usb port power supply and burn it out. I did this on an older dell POS c-series laptop by attaching 3 usb powered external hdd's simultaneously. Zorch, no more power to USB ports. That was a drag, luckily it was a company supplied POS laptop so the help desk sent me another. Rember that theTP is going to be trying to draw three times the charging current at 5 volts that it does at 15. Unless Asus made it smart enough to realize that its connected to a computer rather than its wall wart. I don't know. But I'm leary of USB charging.
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I have a laptop which working with 220V, can i charge directly the Samsung player(USA, 110V no ?) with the laptop with a usb cable ?
Thanks
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Trolol said:
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I have a laptop which working with 220V, can i charge directly the Samsung player(USA, 110V no ?) with the laptop with a usb cable ?
Thanks
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Quite simply, yes. Anything with a micro usb end connected to a power output will charge it.
Yes, regardless of the voltage at the outlet the computer is plugged into ALL USB ports run at 5 Volt (that is a USB STANDARD) so you can plug into the USB port and charge, the only reason it might not charge in a USB port is if the computer is REALLY old (pre USB 2.0) as the amperage of USB 1.1 is to low to be able to charge the player.
On a side note my 4.0 seems to last longer between charges when charged with the standard charger vs. charging thru the USB of the computer.
and if charge with the travel adapter, all i'll need is the cord that transports from american to moroccan ? or a transformer current too ?
(We have 220V)
Trolol said:
and if charge with the travel adapter, all i'll need is the cord that transports from american to moroccan ? or a transformer current too ?
(We have 220V)
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yes, just looked at my charger and it will accept between 100 and 240 volts, so you just need the wall plug adapter.
yes its fine ive tried myself no problem
Yes you can , but it take long time .