Hello, I just got this phone and I'm wondering if I was automatically switched to HSPA+ speed. It says H on the status bar but I don't notice any speed improvement. AT&T can't detect the phone obviously so I can't switch the 4G data plan on the website either.
Is there a way to check or make sure I'm getting HSPA+?
Thanks.
Go to the marketplace and download Free Speed Test.
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If you are in an area that uses the 850 MHz band exclusively for HSPA+ and you only have a tri-band WCDMA Lumia then you will get 3g/edge speeds.
Data goes back and forth between 3G and H as I move about the city (New York). Wonder if it's the phone or the crappy AT&T signal.
My max down speed is about 3mbps.
Just wondering where you purchased your Lumia 800 from? I am looking for one for use with Telstra in Australia that uses the 850MHz band
Simmo3D said:
Just wondering where you purchased your Lumia 800 from? I am looking for one for use with Telstra in Australia that uses the 850MHz band
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I bought mine unlocked from Amazon.
Does it support the WCDMA 850MHz AT&T network? Did you have to flash it with something?
the Lumia 800 currently does not support 850Mhz, only 900.
Next month, the US variant (RM-819) will be released here at the Microsoft stores. I'm sure they won't be cheap, but they'll support 850Mhz. You can wait until then. There is also speculation that the EU variant (RM-801) can be flashed with the RM-819 firmware and then open up the 850 band, but that won't be confirmed until someone actually does it.
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the Lumia 800 currently does not support 850Mhz, only 900.
Next month, the US variant (RM-819) will be released here at the Microsoft stores. I'm sure they won't be cheap, but they'll support 850Mhz. You can wait until then. There is also speculation that the EU variant (RM-801) can be flashed with the RM-819 firmware and then open up the 850 band, but that won't be confirmed until someone actually does it.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Does it support the WCDMA 850MHz AT&T network? Did you have to flash it with something?
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Works fine with mine. I get 3-4mbps down, which seems to be the norm in NYC. I didn't touch the firmware, still on 11451.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Sorry, I should have been more detailed.
The variant models of the Lumia 800 (RM-801 and RM-819) differ in WCDMA bands, not GSM bands. Take everything I said before and apply it to WCDMA/HSPA. It then matches up with the description from your German advert.
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Sorry, I should have been more detailed.
The variant models of the Lumia 800 (RM-801 and RM-819) differ in WCDMA bands, not GSM bands. Take everything I said before and apply it to WCDMA/HSPA. It then matches up with the description from your German advert.
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Ah yes, then you're right. It says right there on the box. WCDMA 900/1900/2100. So no 3G for T-Mobile US ;P
AT&T No data
Just got my unlocked 800 from Amazon, can't seem to get data to work. Any suggestions? MSG calls OK
oilpressure said:
Just got my unlocked 800 from Amazon, can't seem to get data to work. Any suggestions? MSG calls OK
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Go into Settings/Cellular, and at the bottom click APN. Add wap.cingular to the first line and save. That's it.
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I don't know about that... The description of the factory unlocked German version I bought says it does.
"Nokia Lumia 800 black 16GB factory unlocked. GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 & 3G/HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100."
I'm using it on AT&T US with 3G.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067M9JBQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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It's wrong. They're only tri-band 3G.
Edit: And that's already been mentioned, stupid extra page.
It uses the 1900 band to get at&t 3G, correct?
I was thinking about picking one of these up but was worried about 3G coverage with it if it only use 1900 instead of 850 and 1900.
jeffiphone said:
It uses the 1900 band to get at&t 3G, correct?
I was thinking about picking one of these up but was worried about 3G coverage with it if it only use 1900 instead of 850 and 1900.
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Wait a month or so and you can purchase the US variant from Microsoft.
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Wait a month or so and you can purchase the US variant from Microsoft.
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I'm impatient, lol.
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I'm impatient, lol.
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As am I. That's why I have a Cyan UK model for $80 more than I could have purchased the black from Amazon.
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As am I. That's why I have a Cyan UK model for $80 more than I could have purchased the black from Amazon.
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So is anyone using it with at&t and getting 3G coverage?
Related
I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
However, with our experience in the industry we have seen that almost every device launched in recent years within Europe has been ‘optimised’, with the American 850/1900 range locked down, leaving only 900/2100 for the rest of the world. As we are based in the UK it is for this reason we have taken the tentative step of advertising only these frequencies.
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yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Speaking about release dates we do not have a specific one for the GT-i9100 in the USA but we can confirm the FFC has authorized the use of this particular smart phone on the 850MHz and 1900MHz GSM frequencies which means the first carrier to offer the Samsung Galaxy S II might be AT&T. These two frequencies account for the AT&T 3G network but they also match some Canada operator’s frequencies so there is a big chance the Galaxy S II will land there too in the near future.
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Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
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Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Source: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.html
It should work.
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So, only using ATT GSM network?
ATT UMTS network can't use?
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I've seen this blog.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-umts-frequencies/
yeah, UK clove store said EU galaxy S2 doesn't support US 850/1900
network. (They said that may be US 850/1900 UMTS frequencies are locked.)
But, I find google news.
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/5718-att-getting-samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9100-fcc-says-i-do
Follow this news, EU galaxy S2 using US GSM 850/1900 networks.
Who is say that TRUE?
i'm very confused.
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That first link (that I provided earlier tonight I think) - read it to the end please, Clove has all the info on that page, just finish reading it. sorry for the tone , but I think you did not pay enough attention - there are comments to that blog post that say clove confirmed with the manufacturer and local distributor that all 4 bands are present.
I'm confused here
I have SGSII ordered from Clove. I plan to use it with ATT sim card. Have I made a mistake? Will I be able to use it? Do I need to cancel?
I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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Although Clove originally said they doubted it would support 850/1900 3G+, they did later confirm their stock would be quad-band 3G. So no need to worry about support for NAM 3G.
Once someone get's the GS2 in USA on ATT, can you confirm that it indeed works on Edge AND 3G?
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I hope it works well with AT&T since I intend to get this phone.
My current (imported) GT-i9000 did not properly support AT&T and has very poor call quality and call drop issues.
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That's because the i9000 is only tri-band UMTS and only supports AT&T's 1900 frequency. When it gets to an area where the 1900 H/3G signal is weak, it can't switch over to the 850 UMTS simply because its hardware doesn't support it. So, then the phone call drops. You'll notice if you switch the i9000 to 2G/Edge, you'll never get a dropped call... because it's quad band GSM.
Also, ever notice you never get dropped calls when stationary and on H/3G? That's because with a solid 1900 UMTS signal, the i9000 will never search for the unsupported 850 band.
(And yes, I have confirmed all of this as I also own an i9000.)
i9100 supports quad-band UMTS with 850/1900 H/3G, so you will not have the frequent dropped calls anymore.
Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
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Here are the frequencies for AT&T: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
So, the i9100 International will do almost all. Except LTE.
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Thanks for your information.
Does anyone have a Flyer in the US? Have you tried it on T-mobile's network? Engadget says its compatible but i'm curious to know if its compatible with their 3G or only compatible with their 2G network.
The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
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The specs say 3G Bands to be 900/2100 if I'm not mistaken and I thought that tmobile required both 1700 and 2100 to work on their network. Anyway I would like to find out for sure.
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General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
have a look here
So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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So if I'm gathering you are saying the Flyer has 900/1700/2100 and US T-mobile is 1700/2100. Is AWS=1700MHz band? If so that would be spectacular!!!
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if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
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if T Mobile USA is GSM, and it seems to be, it will work for sure !
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Just because its on GSM doesn't mean that it is compatible with their 3G network. It might be stuck on 2G.
It doesn't matter. It's too expensive to be worth buying an imported Flyer. I'm pretty sure Tmobile will be carrying this tablet in the States. Buy it on contract and save about $400.
yes but i think is wifi only.
In one of the other threads in this Flyer forum, a 3G Flyer user says no phone feature
Can this be true???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083323
Title pretty much says it all. What's the real story on the the 3g frequencies? Nokia's site indicates it's quadband 3G, but yet many of the stores seem to indicate that it's tri-band for 3G. I would like to get one for use on ATT, but I definitely need 850MHz 3G since that is the predominant frequency in my area.
Anybody? What's the real answer on this?
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Anybody? What's the real answer on this?
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From http://www.nokia.co.uk/gb-en/products/phone/lumia800/specifications/
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
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From http://www.nokia.de/de-de/produkte/smartphones-und-handys/lumia800/technische-daten/
GSM 850-Netze
GSM 900-Netze
GSM 1800-Netze
GSM 1900-Netze
UMTS-Netze (WCDMA 900)
UMTS-Netze (WCDMA 1900)
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From http://www.nokia.com/fi-fi/tuotteet/puhelimet/lumia800/tuoteseloste/
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
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From http://www.nokia.se/hitta-produkter/produkter/nokia-lumia-800/specifications
GSM/EGSM 850/900/1800/1900;
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100 I/II/V
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WTF...
There must be an error on the German page
From Nokia Developer page:
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/Lumia_800/
Frequency Bands
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
GSM 850
GSM 900
WCDMA Band I (2100)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
This only adds to the confusion (No WCDMA 850)?
Thanks for the responses everyone. I think they just add to the confusion on what the real answer is, or Nokia is producing multiple models with different frequencies which I've seen referenced elsewhere.
I might just hold off for the 900 or wait until CES in January where they are supposed to make their big splash for the U.S. market. The render of the Lumia 900 that hit wmpoweruser today certainly looks nice if it's true. I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen if it doesn't make the device too large. Some of the current phones border on mini-tablet size!
I know of two types of Lumia 800's and you can differentiate them via their FCC identification.
The European edition, FCC ID: LJPRM-801:
GSM/EGSM : 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA : 900/1900/2100
The North American edition, FCC ID: ...RM-819:
GSM/EGSM : 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA : 850/1900/2100
I really wish Nokia would fix the data on their web pages. I ran into this a few years ago with another phone I purchased from them where it was advertised as having U.S. bands when in fact it did not. Thanks for the info everyone.
Agree 100%. When i bought my phone, the lumia was advertised as:
WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100
Many sellers have since correctly identified which bands the phone supports, but some still falsely advertise both 850 and 900 bands being on the phone.
When my Lumia 800 arrived and I could only get Edge/G service, I did some research and I was slightly disappointed. Luckily I work and live in a Wi-Fi zone, so that is my primary data connnection.
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Agree 100%. When i bought my phone, the lumia was advertised as:
WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100
Many sellers have since correctly identified which bands the phone supports, but some still falsely advertise both 850 and 900 bands being on the phone.
When my Lumia 800 arrived and I could only get Edge/G service, I did some research and I was slightly disappointed. Luckily I work and live in a Wi-Fi zone, so that is my primary data connnection.
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You too, huh? I was curious about Rogers. I find that 2G isn't the end of the world.. Only shortcoming are media rich sites, otherwise they still load up quickly for me.
The only thing I really would have missed on 3G is mapping and navigation, but the non-data GPS and preloaded map feature has completely eliminated that concern.
Rogers here in the 'Peg. I'm in love with it even though the primary service around my home is Edge/G. However, since I wrote that piece above, I grabbed the "Nokia Network Setup" application from the marketplace and now I can get 3G around my workplace.
Here is my situation at the moment. I'm currently in the US using At&t's network through straight talk. I purchased the Nokia Lumia 800 the UK version which is LJPRM-801. It clearly states that it supports WCDMA 900/1900/2100. Which I suppose are really meant for the UK or Europe. When I purchased the phone from the seller he clearly stated it was lock and he got it from Orange UK. Which I assume is locked as well. Surprisingly when I received the phone I inserted the Sim and it registered perfectly fine. I get voice AND data. I figured it may possibly be using the 1900 band for data. My main thoughts about this UK version is it may possibly have the 850 band included but not listed on the box for regulation concerns. How would I go about and truly testing it out if it does support 850 band?
You can't really, short of going to an area you know uses soley 850Mhz 3G, and not 1900 as well.
I dont see the reasoning behind manufacturing two different phones, My thoughts are they could have just disabled the band with a simple firmware. Has Anyone truly tested this? Any though on getting a different firmware version of the Lumia 800 on this UK version seeing if it would enable the 850 band.
Me too I purchased one from Clove.co.uk. On the box it stated 900/1900/2100 for 3G but I have 3G. Maybe I have a 1900Mhz station near my work. I will do more tests tonight.
Does an app exist to know the current band of 3G connection?
I've called Nokia while in Germany and they said that they only produced quad band Nokia lumia 800's
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I've called Nokia while in Germany and they said that they only produced quad band Nokia Lumia 800's
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When you say quad band are you referring to 2g or 3g? because we know it's quadband 2g, but whether it's quadband 3g is the question.
So I have used it on 3 different locations here in Montreal on Rogers and I always got 3G. I don't know the band used by Rogers. I found several references but not definitive answer. I have the Lumia 800 Model 801.
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When you say quad band are you referring to 2g or 3g? because we know it's quadband 2g, but whether it's quadband 3g is the question.
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Both 2g and 3G
So you have the lumia 800 which has quad band 3g? If possible could you please post a picture of the lumia 800 box listing the quad 3G bands?
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So you have the lumia 800 which has quad band 3g? If possible could you please post a picture of the lumia 800 box listing the quad 3G bands?
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I'm in Germany right now and don't have the box. I don't remember if it had the cell bands on the box. I know I got hspa on AT&T and I was happy.
I see it talked about but no one seems to sell it
Just picked one up on ebay so they are available.
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Just picked one up on ebay so they are available.
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Same bands??????
Mind sending me a link? I see no results for grey or gray.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-Radar-8GB-Grey-Unlocked-Smartphone-/110808755309?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item19ccb76c6d
Not too sure about the Bands but assume it will work in USA.
The bands are not the same, you will not get 3G/faux 4G on t-mobile in the US with a gray European Radar as it supports HSDPA 900 / 2100 not HSDPA 1700 / 2100.
AT&T 3G works on the 850/1900 UMTS/HSDPA range so I don't think you would get 3G/4G with AT&T either, just 2G.
I am thinking about trying to get an sgs iii and wondering if it is possible to get it on the $30.00 mo 100min unl data plan through walmart?
I have the exhibit ii on this plan, had it for a couple months, anybody know how I would do this?
If it will work with Tmobile band why not, best to ask the source. I don't think we have a Wal Mart rep guru here.
Sure you can, if you don't want 3G.
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You have prepaid plan, you can put your sim into just about any unlocked GSM phone (and T-Mobile phones) and use it. If you want a good phone right now, get the Galaxy Nexus (GSM), it supports T-Mobile 3G (1700/2100 band). T-Mobile version of SIII will be coming later.
thanks for the responses, a Galaxy Nexus is probably a more realistic option than the sgs3 price wise, going to take a good look at it on the play store.
cheers.
T-Mobile and AT&T both support compatible band.
the SGS3 uses HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T uses HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
T-Mobile will come out with an SGS3 later in the year, for SGS2 it was 6 months behind the international version. the T-Mobile version will use HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. what do more compatible bands mean? well it means if youre in an area you normally wouldnt get good 2100 band signal, you may get 1700 signal. if you live in the city, youll see no difference at all, its only when youre in rural areas.
so in short; you can totally use the i9300 SGS3 on tmobiles network, and yes, you will have HSDPA 3G
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T-Mobile uses HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
now we play match the bands. we see at&t shares 3 bands with the international SGS3, thats great. T-Mobile shares 1, not as awesome, but 1 band is enough.
its true what theyre saying up there about "only having 2G", well i should correct myself, it WAS true. however recently T-Mobile has upgraded their 2100 band to 3G, as theyve been expanding. so it will work fine on Walmart's plan, as they use T-Mobile's network.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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Could really use a source for this, please. Everything i've looked up has suggested that their HSPA+ is only 1700 and 2100, and that phones with only 2100 would not work.
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you know what, i made a mistake, i was using this
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4261
looking at the bands the T-Mobile One S (along with all other tmobile phones) support, but the 900 band is just added to the phone so it can be used if taken abroad. so my mistake.
to reiterate the sgs3 will only work on 2g on tmobile, it will only work on at&t for 3g.
im glad you questioned it, i would have gone along giving bad information