Has anybody else seen this?
http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/5g-speeds-already-around-the-corner/
Sounds possible but hard to believe that At&t would take advantage of such a thing...being still on Faux 4G for 90% of the country still....
Anyways anybody have any thought on these "5G" speculations?
..interesting indeed. I'm still waiting for 4G
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Awesome, thanks for the link!
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Well not going to be 5g .....
But at&t bought 700mh spectrum. From Qualcom
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We will see this in use in about 5-10 years. After they triple our price.
You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
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You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
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Let's back up and ask an even more important question.. Has "4G" even been standardized?
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You guys do realize that real 4g is 100mb/s right?
Has 5g even been defined?
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No that's not true anymore, they changed their definition a while ago
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No that's not true anymore, they changed their definition a while ago
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Wow, really?
They'll do anything to market even the slightest incremental advances, won't they...
The carriers need to figure out capacity/backhaul issues before 4g even really makes sense. I haven't found many applications which require LTE speeds that won't quickly hit the 2/4 gig limit.
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Wow, really?
They'll do anything to market even the slightest incremental advances, won't they...
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They pretty much bent over for the carriers. Wimax, lte and even hspa+, are considered 4G by the ITU now
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definitely need 5G so we can hit our monthly cap in a few hours! wewt
its taking this long to roll out 4g ... I'm not going to hold my breath on 5G especially since they still need to standardize it first.
Carriers will slap on the 4G, 5G, 6G, ect... names on their network to bring in more/other customers because the general population dosent know any better, they just see a bigger number. Just because they say its 4G or 5G dosent mean it really is. On paper maybe, but in real world conditions... not at all.
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Carriers will slap on the 4G, 5G, 6G, ect... names on their network to bring in more/other customers because the general population dosent know any better, they just see a bigger number. Just because they say its 4G or 5G dosent mean it really is. On paper maybe, but in real world conditions... not at all.
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thats exactly what they'll do.
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They pretty much bent over for the carriers. Wimax, lte and even hspa+, are considered 4G by the ITU now
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That's totally F-ed up!!!
That was a very interesting read... thanks for sharing. Hope half of it comes true.
interesting read, thanks.
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definitely need 5G so we can hit our monthly cap in a few hours! wewt
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Lol
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Lol thanks for the input guys...looks like most of you feel the same way I do
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Ok, totally nervous and anxious noob here. I had a question about the capabilities of the modem in this phone. My coworker has a captivate, and he told me all about the stuff you do here, and how he upgraded his modem to 4g. Is the vzw variant capable of the same? I've been reading the threads for a few weeks now, trying to figure out what to get, and now I'm just confused with the whole process, but that's a topic for another day.
Thanks.
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Not. . . . . . . . . . . .
No.
The captivate can do HSPA which is all of the sudden be marketed as 4G (as HSPA+) but only up to the device limit of 7M.
That is one of ATT/TMO's ways of saying 4G.
VZN is using LTE which is different from their current CDMA#K which means phones can not take advantage of it.
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Yeah, no. The "4G" he is talking about is not really 4G. It's a fake 4G.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/comparisons/htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-thunderbolt-4g-speed-test/
but wait......i thought if you put 4g icons in your theme....then it unlocked that super secret lte radio that came with the fascinate!?!?!
Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Thanks for the info.
Brownie points for Big Red...NOT.
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Its not really 4G, the phone works fine and as intended. If you want 4g, then go get a 4g phone from verizon(who has the best 4g network at the moment, forget ATT's crap)
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So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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Hahahah, this. +1
HSPA and LTE are different tech, just like CDMA#k and HSPA. HSPA has the same speed capability as LTE but the drasticly different delivery mechanism makes it a loser for these kind of tests.
LTE is the true future tech even though it doesn't meet 4G guidelines. Future HSPA evolutions are just going to be like new and improved satellite TDMA systems.... larger pipe for more terminals... but dont ldt ths customer know how many terminals there are.
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Musicmaster said:
So now you are discrediting VZW because they use a different technology than AT&T and bought a phone that is working as advertised?
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If I had my choice, I would've gone with AT&T for numerous reasons, but given my circumstance, VZW was my only option. Big Red has a track record of making things difficult for the end user (like upgrading phones). I love this phone, and the service is good, but it's a bit discouraging that I'll have to wait 2 years to get a faster phone when this one has capable hardware being held back by them.
Sorry for the rant. Basically, I'm anxiously awaiting the day when I can cut the bloat and let this thing fly. Keep up the awesome work, and I'll keep reading until I get all the pieces together.
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The captivate doesn't do 4g..the guy just has a theme that changed his icon to show 4g when he still has 3g. And neither phone has the hardware to run 4g.
At&t has **** for service...hence the REAL reason iPhone is with vzw now. I will never pay for at&t again.
This article mentions that data during phone calls will work on the EVO 3D, true or false?
http://www.mytechsecrets.com/htc-evo-3d-android-phone-–-coming-soon/
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Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Thanks for clearing that up
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aimbdd said:
Same way that the evo does data while on the phone. Only if you are on 4g or wifi
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Quote from the article---> "Will have simultaneous voice and data capabilities; while in 3G/4G or Wi-Fi coverage areas, the EVO 3D will allow web surfing while on the phone"
According to this quote the phone CAN do simultaneous voice and data on 3G. I have a buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. I'm hoping it can althought I didnt think it was possible for CDMA to do it on 3G.
The Thunder bolt does 3g/voice at the same time
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There may be hope for the E3D then
This is one of the reasons I'm excited about this phone. One of the articles I read a month or so ago had technical details on how it worked. It was some extension to CDMA or something along those lines. It's about time!
i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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i wonder why a bigger deal isnt being made of this.
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Because it was all speculation but they just sent it to the fcc so now its confirmed
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This phone doesn't have those capabilities. Thunderbolt's LTE MDM9600 have SVDO support, while the EVO's MSM8660 doesn't. 4G/Wi-Fi only.
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buddy that claims his kyocera echo can do this as well on 3G. .
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
LOL
Thanks for the opinions. Im trying to decide on my purchase and don't want to be disappointed, never had a CDMA phone before.
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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I would absolutely love to hear how many units of the echo have been sold. Especially considering that they wasted money and time having that stupid "Industry First" event with David Blane.
Stunts like that are the reason why my friends think Sprint is crap
I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
That is pretty disappointing. Shame on you Sprint. You would think that every carrier would have the function since AT&T used to brag so heavily about how the iphone could do it. I also read that only maybe half of the new EVOs UI will make use of the 3D effect. We'll know soon enough
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I have seen a few posts that Sprint's network is technically capable, like Verizon, of simultaneous voice and data but that Sprint specifically does not (or hasn't yet) enabled this functionality.
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Not entirelly true there. They have some build out to do and more importantly our devices don't have the required chip to allow it.
see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14300011&postcount=63
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whoa, pinch me; someone actually bought an echo?
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That's the same thing I was wondering LOL!
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Yeah.....my buddy is a true phone addict like I have never seen before. He gets a new phone like once a month!! He has soo many phones on his hip(active phones) it looks like a batman utility belt...lol. And for the first time ever in his life he is sorry about getting a phone.....the kyocera phone. I think it really "hit" him when he saw how much radio shack would give him for it when he trades it in for the evo 3d. The phone is only a couple of months old......paid a couple hundred for it and the trade in value is like 75 bucks or something. A true phone addict....all his money goes to sneakers.....phones.....phone accessories....and food. And occasionally child support....lol.
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=8261
Sprint is primed for major network improvement it seems
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International business times were comparing the galaxy nexus and photon in every catagory and said about connectivity
"Connectivity: Galaxy Nexus has HSDPA 21 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps and 4G LTE support. The Photon 4G has Rev.A up to 3.1 Mbps, HSDPA, HSUPA, along with 4G LTE support."
I just find it weird how people dont differ wimax from LTE . Link for the rest of the comparison on the bottom if interested
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/272109/20111223/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-motorola-photon-4g.htm
Hahaha that's awesome, and you cant even really compare speeds because of different network ranges at different locations etc... im sure uve heard the huge rumors debating that this phone does have a dual wimax-lte chip but only has wimax drivers(till sprint updates their network and this phone)
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Hahaha that's awesome, and you cant even really compare speeds because of different network ranges at different locations etc... im sure uve heard the huge rumors debating that this phone does have a dual wimax-lte chip but only has wimax drivers(till sprint updates their network and this phone)
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Yea i have hella wishful thinking it would b awsome though if it did
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I think that we should all wait and see if somehow we get an LTE surprise update on our Photons, you never know... please just wait and see...
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I think that we should all wait and see if somehow we get an LTE surprise update on our Photons, you never know... please just wait and see...
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I will idk bout anybody else i just feel like the photon has a big box of secrets we dont know about
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Agreed.
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You guys do know the Photon has an LTE chip... right? Not just WiMax?
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You guys do know the Photon has an LTE chip... right? Not just WiMax?
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yeah I've known since before I got the phone but I've never seen solid evidence of it ... do you have proof of it? cause I'd love to have it too! haha
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Everyone has heard of verizons supposedly blazing fast LTE and how there the fastest network around well this is my moms phone running on there network had full service and everything. She's always complaining how slow her internet is and I didn't believe her till now
Edit: in the pic it says 3g which makes no sense because she always has 4G on but idk
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Everyone has heard of verizons supposedly blazing fast LTE and how there the fastest network around well this is my moms phone running on there network had full service and everything. She's always complaining how slow her internet is and I didn't believe her till now
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The phone is on 3G bro.
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The phone is on 3G bro.
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Noticed that but when the test was running 4G was on and it makes no sense now that I looked at it lol. Gah this is one of those fail moments
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You would definitely see a huge difference if it was on LTE. That's Verizon's 3g speeds.
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tooter1 said:
You would definitely see a huge difference if it was on LTE. That's Verizon's 3g speeds.
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This is on 4g lte.
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I've seen verizons 4g speeds go past 50mb down. Maybe your just not in that good of an area. Just cause bars are full doesn't mean internet faster. I get fast 3g in some places with low signal
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If you look at the top it says 3g
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Yeah there are 3G to 4G hand offs which your mom probably had when she was no longer in a 4G area.
First rule of LTE in general is that it doesn't compare with anything out right now except maybe T-mobile's 42mbps hspa+.
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Only thing I can do is Lol. Haha. Why would you post this? Haha
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Lmao! Thanks for the laugh.
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wtf
Don't be bunch of d**ks, what the guy is trying to say from what I'm understanding is how Verizon lie to its customers , even tho when they are not in a 4g area , it shows they use 4g!
Grow up kids its not a preschool to make fun of the others ...!
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Don't be bunch of d**ks, what the guy is trying to say from what I'm understanding is how Verizon lie to its customers , even tho when they are not in a 4g area , it shows they use 4g!
Grow up kids its not a preschool to make fun of the others ...!
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Incorrect. The picture clearly shows 3G and 3G speeds and you will see a few posts down from the OP somebody actually connected to 4G LTE and actual 4G LTE speeds.
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milad6923 said:
Don't be bunch of d**ks, what the guy is trying to say from what I'm understanding is how Verizon lie to its customers , even tho when they are not in a 4g area , it shows they use 4g!
Grow up kids its not a preschool to make fun of the others ...!
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You really should think about what you say before you look like an ass. Right now it looks like you have a case of foot in mouth disease.
As the poster above me pointed out he is clearly only getting 3G.
@poster just because you have 4G turned on does not mean you are getting 4G your phone needs to pick up the 4G signal to go into 4G mode.
This has to be the most entertaining thread of the day.
Wow. This is horribly embarrassing. What are you doing with your life OP?
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Wow. This is horribly embarrassing. What are you doing with your life OP?
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He's probably slashing his wrists due to this huge e-fail lol.
OP IS OBVIOUS TROLL
iPhone > *
Could it be that he was really on Verizon's LTE in a really poor Verizon LTE coverage area...and right before he took the screen shot his phone dropped to 3G because of the bad LTE signal ?
Possible? Very Unlikely ?
Calm down guys, no need for any name calling or feeding of any trolls if there are any in here...
This wait for LTE on Sprint is killing me haha
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OP IS OBVIOUS TROLL
iPhone > *
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Calm down guys, no need for any name calling or feeding of any trolls if there are any in here...
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Oh...there is.
Why should we get a sprint lte phone (next cycle) , when they are two years out from being turned on. Yes I know they are testing in some town with 10 residents (which none of them are probably sprint customers). I'm still waiting for 4G.
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babyschmoof said:
Why should we get a sprint lte phone (next cycle) , when they are two years out from being turned on. Yes I know they are testing in some town with 10 residents (which none of them are probably sprint customers). I'm still waiting for 4G.
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Maybe a better question...how about u just don't get it until u get 4G?
Sorry...don't wanna sound like a sh*ta** but yea...lol
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Better hardware overall and all phones offerings are going to be 4G. So... Upgrade your phone or don't.
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Personally I'm just buying a phone because I like it. I've had both evo 4g EVO 3d and both epics and am.still without 4g. I have got this far without its just a bonus to me if I ever do recieve lte. It's still the same price and my WiFi at home is better than 4g anyway. If you have stuck around this long no reason to jump ship now your halfway through the changeover
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i work from home and am on wifi like 95% of my time, i do go to wimax areas every once in a while but but i can live without that. im buying it because 4.3" is too small for me lol
I don't use 4G as it is now so I could care less
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It's hardware is far superior to any phone that is out or will be out for a while.
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It's hardware is far superior to any phone that is out or will be out for a while.
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Agreed and one of the reasons I got it. Would just like to be on the upside of phone tech for once. Never thought I would be jealous of AT & T.
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Agreed and one of the reasons I got it. Would just like to be on the upside of phone tech for once. Never thought I would be jealous of AT & T.
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Lol I may end up getting it when I am outta contract. Kinda wanna see what people think of it.. I don't care for the LTE or 4G just the specs are pretty nice no 3D which makes me happy just want my 8MP back so I can play with CM and other sense less builds.
The only reason I will eventually move to LTE (I'm already currently in a WiMAX area) is for the improved speeds and the lower frequencies. Lower frequency radio waves will better penetrate thick walls (like concrete) and will reduce how much battery it uses. Therefore, LTE is overall more stable than WiMAX technology.
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Nobody is forcing you to stay with Sprint. If you want 4g LTE now, switch to Verizon.
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Nobody is forcing you to stay with Sprint. If you want 4g LTE now, switch to Verizon.
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Lol he already bought one Anyway's think he is just asking a general question about what people think about it...
Verizon plans and phones are over priced Good service and everything else..
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The only reason I will eventually move to LTE (I'm already currently in a WiMAX area) is for the improved speeds and the lower frequencies. Lower frequency radio waves will better penetrate thick walls (like concrete) and will reduce how much battery it uses. Therefore, LTE is overall more stable than WiMAX technology.
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The big issue I see is a big price jump once lte is turned on. There is some serious traffic control that lte has that wimax doesn't. When they can truly see what being used and the rate of consumption, bye bye unlimited.
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The big issue I see is a big price jump once lte is turned on. There is some serious traffic control that lte has that wimax doesn't. When they can truly see what being used and the rate of consumption, bye bye unlimited.
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though I do think there will be a day when unlimited will be no more, i don't think it will be anytime soon, for 2 reason, 1 the premium data fee ($10) we all pay according to dan hasse is the reason we don't have tier data plans already, so if they switched they can't charge that anymore and 2 sprint uses it too much to advertise with, and is a reason so many of the customers are staying... if they lose that they will lose A LOT of customers...
i never use 4g and i can get it almost all most all the time.. i use 3g cause its fast enough for me.. when i have used 4g in the past it just drains my battery to quick.. its crazy cause some people would love to get 4g and i have it and could care less.. lol i wish i could give it away!!!! to someone that would use it.. u kno..
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i never use 4g and i can get it almost all most all the time.. i use 3g cause its fast enough for me.. when i have used 4g in the past it just drains my battery to quick.. its crazy cause some people would love to get 4g and i have it and could care less.. lol i wish i could give it away!!!! to someone that would use it.. u kno..
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My town doesnt have any 4g towers. What kind off BS is that? Hah
iTzLOLtrain said:
My town doesnt have any 4g towers. What kind off BS is that? Hah
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I only get to use it if I go to Atlanta or I go up north to Michigan
I am in no hurry to upgrade. I live in a small city about an hour north of Atlanta. My little city of 30k has WiMax and is set to get LTE the first round, but I get 4G inside my apartment and downtown. While I don't get LTE speeds, I do get around 7-8mb. And I'm okay with that till the next round of LTE phones come out. WiMax isn't going anywhere anytime soon for those of us that have it.
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point is there will always be a better fone :-/
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I only get to use it if I go to Atlanta or I go up north to Michigan
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I'm sorry that's the case. As a frequent traveler I am in almost always in Wimax coverage and have been very satisfied for the most part. However, thinking I'm hot s*?t pulling down 10mgbs on my couch always gets me into trouble as my buddy ( who is smartphone illiterate) pulls down 30 on his razr max. Yea at those speeds its basically just a pi$$ingcontest, but with almost 24 months on the competition you have to feel dissapointed in the way Wimax was.handled.
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