Hi guys and gals,
I've recently bought an Archos 101 Internet Tablet with 16GB as a real bargain (169 Euro) and now it's lying still boxed on my table and I ask myself, what should I do
BTW, is this a GEN8 oder GEN9 device?
I thought that this could be a great deal when it's possible to install CyanogenMod 7.x on the 101 - but as I read for now this is not that easy as I thought
There's obviously a way installing CM7 over openAOS, but with massive restrictions like not-working
Audio
Bluetooth
Accelerometer
accelerated Video decoding
Suspend
TS calibration on A28/A32/A43
This is really disappointing, because I really like CM7 ported to other devices I know...
So, back to my thread-title: should I unbox the 101 and start to use it, hoping that CM7 will work on it without any restrictions one fine day? Or shoud I send it back to the seller and get my money back?
And: what alternative cheap tablet with Android, a big community AND the ability to install a "normal" CM7 should I buy?
Best regards and thanks for your thoughts
cool400
Hi,
you have a Gen 8 tablet. I haven't tried CM7 on my tablet yet (Doesn't look stable enough for me yet), but have you looked into Urukdroid? It is fully functional, and adds some neat things like being able to use a DVB stick to watch TV.
The first alternative tablet I can think of is the Nook Color. I hear that has CM7, and is about the same price (150 euros).
If all you want to do is play video and you're stuck on the 150 price range, go with the 101 for the price, although the screen is terrible. CM7 runs very well on the Nook Color, but it's a 7" screen and video playback is terrible. For very little extra money you can get either the kindle fire or nook tablet and have something much better.
cool400 said:
Hi guys and gals,
I've recently bought an Archos 101 Internet Tablet with 16GB as a real bargain (169 Euro) and now it's lying still boxed on my table and I ask myself, what should I do
BTW, is this a GEN8 oder GEN9 device?
I thought that this could be a great deal when it's possible to install CyanogenMod 7.x on the 101 - but as I read for now this is not that easy as I thought
There's obviously a way installing CM7 over openAOS, but with massive restrictions like not-working
Audio
Bluetooth
Accelerometer
accelerated Video decoding
Suspend
TS calibration on A28/A32/A43
This is really disappointing, because I really like CM7 ported to other devices I know...
So, back to my thread-title: should I unbox the 101 and start to use it, hoping that CM7 will work on it without any restrictions one fine day? Or shoud I send it back to the seller and get my money back?
And: what alternative cheap tablet with Android, a big community AND the ability to install a "normal" CM7 should I buy?
Best regards and thanks for your thoughts
cool400
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To rectify some things on RC bull release openAOS:
Audio works for CM7
Bluetooth works for CM7
Accelerometer works for CM7
accelerated Video decoding is not working for CM7
Suspend is working, however there still seem to be some issues
TS calibration for A32 and A43 is working A28 we do not support
Is it a stable release? No far from that it still needs a lot of work.
divx118
Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
przemke said:
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
TjaXanK said:
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
Ok, so I am a software developer and I have a new client who wants to do some stuff with Android which probably requires a root (such as basically locking a tablet down to run a single app).
They are picking out their hardware and are looking into which version of Android to use and also whether or not to use a knockoff Chinese tablet to save money.
From my research I don't believe there is a reliable root of 4.0 yet. I assume this is because there are no big name tablets running it...although, strangely, a lot of the off-brand tablets are.
My other research seems to suggest that most roots are device specific. Is that generally true? If so does that mean that we will have a tough time rooting these offbrand tablets?
They would like to use Honeycomb because of its inherent scalability which would allow them to, theoretically, use either a 7inch or 10 inch tablet. Is this a valid assumption?
Since the app would be really all that the user would see it seems to me that it may, in the end, be better to go with an earlier and therefore more hackable version of Android such as 2.3 even though it wasn't really made for tablets.
Just want to thank you all in advance for your expertise. I look forward to your answers and thoughts.
fp
Anyone have some thoughts to give?
i have the archos 70 b internet tablet and its running 2.2 froyo which isnt bad but when i walk into to places like carphone warhouse and see the Gen9 up to date version of mine with 3.2 honeycomb working it really winds me up because archos havent made an update for my one to run 3.2 and it looks so much better than 2.2 which is really starting to bore me now, is there anyway of downloading the Gen9 70b IT firmware from the archos site and putting it on the older Gen8 70b? i see archos have put 'WARNING: This Firmware is ONLY compatible with the ARCHOS 70b internet tablet running Honeycomb (3.2).
It is NOT COMPATIBLE with the Froyo (2.2) versions of the ARCHOS 70b internet tablet.' is that just bull crap to make you go out and buy the newer one or can you actually do it?
No, this is not bull crap, it will brick definitely your tablet if you do. Trust me, I did before the warning was there. So don't
So Archos' habit of reusing model numbers is a pain, but I've just got two Archos 70b Cobalt for $45 each new. I've given my parents it to give me for Christmas (they're always asking for ideas), anyway so this is the link:
http://www.archos.com/gb/products/tablets/cobalt/archos_70bcobalt/specs.html?#menu
Now, doing research they also do a Archos 70c Cobalt, and to me the specs look the same, but the tablets look slightly different cosmetically, and I think there could be things like wifi differences:
http://www.archos.com/gb/products/tablets/cobalt/archos_70ccobalt/specs.html?#menu
Basically the 70b runs 4.2 JB, the 70c runs 4.4 KK, would a cross flash work? If it doesn't will it be recoverable. I can't find firmware for either on the Archos site though.
Thanks.