WIP: Stopping CDMA Radio on boot (using init.d) - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Alright everyone, I'm getting annoyed and I'm hoping someone more talented than me can come here to save the day. I'm attempting to use a conditional init.d script that runs if it finds the file of my choosing (in this case, radio.sh in /system/bin) and then if it finds it, it will disable radio. What I'm having problems with is that it keeps giving me connection refused on boot when disabling radio. So, any idea?

Have you mounted your system as read/write at the beginning of the script?
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I'm using radio options I shouldn't have to but I guess I'll try that
Sent aboard the Evo Express

What command do you use to disable radio?

I tried a setprop command, that didnt work and I also tried "radiooptions 1"
edit: This was using both adb and init.d

Code:
stop ril-daemon

globatron said:
Code:
stop ril-daemon
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Hey globatron,
If you remove phone.apk and telephoneyproviders.apk you no longer get cell stand by in battery usage but it breaks GPS. If I leave the files and issue the stop ril-daemon command. It turns off the radio and GPS still works but cell standby appears in battery usage. Is there a way to disable the radios completely, still have GPS work and not have cell standby in battery usage?
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You have to have cell standby for GPS to work, I think they are in the same chip.
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I don't get what you're trying to accomplish, if youre trying to disable the CDMA radio and use wifi only like me, but want GPS, just turn on airplane mode, turn on wifi and GPS and you're set. If I'm mistaken about what you're trying to do then never mind.
Side note, leaving the CDMA radio on didn't bother me because I don't have service with my view, but it still takes from the battery of course.
Sent from my Rooted HTC EVO View 4G (Honeycomb)

Gordon, this is for a ROM. I'm looking into several options to kill it on boot simply. That's it.

I see, I I think I came across some lads in the Flyer forums either here or AC that had it working.
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Here is something odd.. gps does work if you remove the stuff for cell standby. I thought it was broken (everytime I tried in my house it never locked on a signal) but it's not. I fired up navigation just now and while it did take longer to lock a signal then with the radio stuff in, it did lock and start giving me directions.. I guess the cell radios assist the gps(considerably) but are not fully responsible for it.

This is an important functionality to disable the cell radio!
I've been trying for days now - can't understand why Android doesn't simply provide a checkbox in the settings for this (like for Bluetooth or Wifi).
When people suggest airplane mode, they don't realize that this blocks the stock dialer from placing any calls.
This is really poor design on the part of the Android team: they include a sip stack (thank you!) , then force users to resort to airplane mode to disable the cell, and then block the dialer (when all a user wants is simply to use sip over wifi)...

wutzin said:
This is an important functionality to disable the cell radio!
I've been trying for days now - can't understand why Android doesn't simply provide a checkbox in the settings for this (like for Bluetooth or Wifi).
When people suggest airplane mode, they don't realize that this blocks the stock dialer from placing any calls.
This is really poor design on the part of the Android team: they include a sip stack (thank you!) , then force users to resort to airplane mode to disable the cell, and then block the dialer (when all a user wants is simply to use sip over wifi)...
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Why would you care about the stock dialer for placing call if you turned off your radio? You ain't making any calls without the radio anyway.... I'm confused

immjg said:
Why would you care about the stock dialer for placing call if you turned off your radio? You ain't making any calls without the radio anyway.... I'm confused
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He is using sip over WiFi, but he needs a dialer. That doesn't use the mobile radio.

Indirect said:
What I'm having problems with is that it keeps giving me connection refused on boot when disabling radio. So, any idea?
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sounds like it sends the command before ril is ready.
The only way I got it to work was by having "sleep 60" before the radiooptions command.
Maybe there is some trigger for ril, so the command can run once its ready. I had done a loop to check if ril-daemon is running first, but that doesn't seem to be enough (probably takes more time to load the vender RIL next)
It seems radiooptions just disables the radio, but it still uses power.

Did anybody have success in disabling the radio? I'm also looking for the way how to use View 4G abroad without Sprint.
May be it's possible to modify the firmware to make it "wifi only" - exactly as it made for the HTC Flyer?

mar1boro said:
Did anybody have success in disabling the radio? I'm also looking for the way how to use View 4G abroad without Sprint.
May be it's possible to modify the firmware to make it "wifi only" - exactly as it made for the HTC Flyer?
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Download a WiFi only Rom
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wyldkard said:
Download a WiFi only Rom
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Is there any for HTC Evo View 4G? The one for the HTC Flyer is not compatible with the View 4G, is it?
I would like a GB, not the HC version.

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[Q] cyanogenmod 7 wifi issues

I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
Menu -> settings -> wireless & networks -> wi-fi settings -> menu -> advanced -> wi-fi sleep policy -> never
I think that's it.
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okachowwa said:
I recently flashed on cm7 on my aria. it is great but my data usage began shooting up. i realized it was due to the fact that everytime i lock my phone, it disables my wifi (i saw this because everytime i unlock im on 3g for a 1-2 seconds then i get on wifi so that means that the whole time my phone is locked it uses 3g data ) is there anyway i can prevent this from occurring??
Thanks,
Okachowwa
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Have you checked the Wifi Settings to see which sleep option is selected? There is an 'Never' option which tells wifi to stay on even when the phone sleeps.
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
klbmth said:
One thing I noticed its that if I leave my house I have to turn off wifi and turn it back on to find my router.
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Yup, I have the same issue with CM7 nightlies. This worked flawlessly in CM6 and stock2.1. So far there isn't a viable solution.
from the CM6.1.1 thread...
Q. How do I keep my wifi from going to sleep every time the screen shuts off?
A. There is a hidden feature that disables wifi sleep.
menu > Settings > Wireless & networks > wifi settings > menu (again) > advanced > Wi-Fi Sleep policy > Never > menu > Save
However: although you can keep the wifi service from sleeping, the wifi driver will still sleep on it's own after detecting no bus activity for a period of time.
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from the CM6.1.1 thread...
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
I've had the same behavior on FR008 and the stock ATT 2.1 load as well. When Wifi is in that on but not really connected state some apps can wake it up...the default browser usually will, but Listen would not. I just gave up and only turn on wifi when I need it.
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I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
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Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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yup...that's why you just turn your wifi off with the notification widget (very simple and painless might I add) if you know you're leaving the house...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network? all it's going to do is drain your battery. i left my wifi enabled one day when i sent to work and within half the day i had ~12% battery life...definitely not good practice to leave it enabled that's my 2 cents, do as you wish though. to each his own.
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That's a good tip, I feel kind of dumb for not thinking about it lol and I also agree that it is good practice to do so. I just wanted to point it out in case a dev was going through this thread which is relevant to the topic.
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kinggrowler said:
Well, just because people don't work exactly like you work, does not mean they are doing it wrong. If something is broken I'm going to call it out. I might be incorrect, but let's be clear: you aren't questioning that wifi in CM7 isn't working the way it did in CM6, you are questioning my behavior -- which is a weak argument.
I guess you don't understand the issue, so I'll spell it out:
Wifi worked flawlessly and automatically for me in stock 2.1 AND CM6. This automatic behavior does not work in CM7. Manually toggling something that simply "just worked" before is a regression, not a feature. Hence the reason I point it out -- the devs can't fix something unless they know it's broken, and I seriously doubt the devs are able to test all/every permutation. I have nothing but respect for the work they do, thus my very respectful tones in my earlier posts. I've had no indication that the devs are unwilling to get feedback about their work.
You asked a question though, and here is the answer:
I leave Wifi on all the time because I'm a consultant -- I work in many different locations throughout the week, travelling the country. I have dozens of wifi networks saved on my phone, and it is useful for me to have my phone automatically jump on the correct, nearest network. I'd rather use free wifi instead of paying AT&T for data charges. It is not always possible for me to remember I'm in a location with a known wifi network, or to remember to manually toggle wifi settings: it is useful for me to have this happen in the background. Sometimes I'm on a call, sometimes I'm heading into a meeting and I'd rather not mess with my phone. I want wifi to be on all time, scanning for the correct network, and jumping on it when it's in range.
Outrageous, right?! Not actually -- this is the existing behavior in CM6 and stock 2.1. From my standpoint, wifi just worked -- I didn't have to think about it, didn't have to manually toggle something to prevent AT&T data charges.
This is desired behavior for me, and I'm happy with rolling back to CM6 to get it. I understand that _you_ don't need this behavior, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means the world is bigger than you realized.
And yes: wifi in CM7 (beta) is currently broken. Read the threads. Many people are having problems with it.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Also, being a "consultant" and the very important man you are, flashing a rom that's not even in beta stages yet probably isn't the best idea you've ever had.
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Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
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fyi CM6 & 2.1 != CM7. Your argument is null & void.
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...although I have a strong suspicion.
kinggrowler said:
Why do you remind us that the rom is in a beta stage? "Beta" implies it is not fully functional, but your argument all along has been that it works perfectly....
Look, it's clear you haven't actually understood any of my posts. I'm highlighting error messages or erratic behavior I see in logcat running CM7. I've posted what I've seen so the devs can take action, or not, as they choose. Since you aren't in that audience I don't understand what your beef is.
Oh wait! Straw man arguments; personal attacks; logical fallacies: I've been dealing with either a highschool student or a troll - not sure which.
...although I have a strong suspicion.
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First of all:
attn1 said:
Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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That being said. Beta does NOT necessarily imply that thing are not fully functioning, it simply implies that it hasn't been put into RC or stable. You can have a fully functioning beta program. HOWEVER, it may not be working properly. But creating a thread about an issue that's been brought up 20+ times now is pointless. I'm PRETTY sure the devs know about the issue, should it actually be an issue. Now that I just wasted another 15 seconds of my life, i'm going to casually /part from this thread and I'll end my post with this quote again, in case you didn't catch it the first time.
attn1 said:
Just because something does not work they way you'd like it to doesn't mean you've discovered a bug.
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This is for OP and very important man of the day, kinggrowler:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11171075&postcount=1054
and i'll even quote it directly for you:
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There are no broad wifi issues to resolve, and I do not plan to change the wifi driver one iota. I am using the one that works right for most people, and flawlessly for me.
If you are not having such luck, then you need to look at your access point if you have already wiped data.
Really, the constant carping about wifi is absolutely pointless.
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I believe the proper thing for me to say right now would be:
game. set. match.
Me too. I can't roam between networks, either. I have to disable and re-enable the wifi each time.
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...what's the point of having wifi enabled if you're not in range of your network?
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1) Because Google Maps uses known wifi hotspots to help establish your location.
2) So that you don't have to keep toggling wifi on and off when moving between hotspots (or home and work, for example).
3) To use the network notification feature (aka "notify me when an open network is available").
HTH
Edit: seems to be fixed in RC3!
zervic said:
What is the point of having wifi set to ON when you are not in range of a network? Hence why, if you are using CM7 or CM6, you should utilize the notification widget and turn wifi off if you know you're leaving the area of your network. It's simple. Things aren't ALWAYS going to work how YOU want them to work. Thing will not always be automatic. I think I quote attn1 when I say this, just because it doesn't work how you want it to work, does not mean it is broken.
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i have try everything and still same issues with wifi. and i change the radio ( baseband ). still i am thinking of uninstalling it bc i dont have wifi
Sorry to tell you but that was with the old wifi stuff (every nightly up to build 25), which I had no problem with. The RC/nightlies have new wifi data made by jznomoney, which I have on and off problems with. Its working for most people but there are a handful who are having problems. I flashed ladios' kernel and my wifi is doing a lot better with the new RC/nightlies.
Signatures are fancy.
kinggrowler said:
I've made sure to set Wifi Sleep Policy to "Never" but that did not fix my wifi problems. What I see when I open Wifi Settings is a cycle of:
Code:
Scanning --> Connecting --> Disconnected... Scanning, etc
When I look in logcat it shows it attemping (in vain) to authenticate against the last wifi network I was using -- even though it is no longer in range (and clear across town). In a nutshell it is refusing to recognize the actual nearby network UNTIL I toggle wifi settings.
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I've noticed something similar with CM7 on my Aria. When I leave the house and come back it doesn't always connect automatically and it will enter into this cycle of scanning, connecting, disconnected.
I had to reboot the phone to get it to stop the cycle and stay connected. I don't use a lot of data anyway but I still prefer to use wifi when available. Interestingly just now it wouldn't even see any of my neighbor's wifi networks at all which is odd.

[Q] non-phone Eris ROM?

I have been thinking recently about moving on to a newer Android device for a phone, and converting my Eris into a general purpose, WiFi-only Android device, for things like Media center remote control, Portable MP3 player, etc.
My question, basically, is whether or not its possible to completely disable the cellular radio and any other associated phone/mms/3G/2G drivers and utilities. Stripping out all the miscellaneous apks and apps i dont want is the easy part. Removing drivers, disabling devices, and modifying config files is the part i'm not comfortable with yet. Any tips, pointers or links would be awesome.
Is anybody else interested in having a ROM like this distributed on this forum? I can start posting my progress builds on here if there is interest. Otherwise, if something like this already exists, please let me know!
as far as using it as a wi-fi only device you can simply put the phone into airplane mode and then urn on the wi-fi.
Unwanted programs I have used this program (link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628138
If your phone is rooted you can use the application manager to erase any app you want and hopefully thats good enough for what your looking for. I
It sounds like your looking to do more that I have knowledge in so hopefully this will help till you get the setup your looking for
When you setup your device on first boot after flashing a rom doesn't it have an option for wifi only connection on setup? Granted you may still have to airplane mode afterwards like said above, not really sure but worth a try.... hope this helps.
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I'd be interested, I wouldn't mind letting a youngin use it for mp3 player or something but always worried about an accidental 911 call or something dumb like that
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I think you could take an existing ROM and prune it from them and be happy. Removing drivers or disabling devices ? Not really necessary.... I think if you removed "phone.apk", there'd be no accidental 911 calls made, at least. My first thought was, don't activate it, but you can always make 911 calls as alluded to.
I realize removing the non-used stuff is likely in effort to trim it down to just the necessary stuff, but as I said, it might be overkill.
I've actually been thinking something like this would be awesome for when I retire this thing I say +1
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dragon1018 said:
as far as using it as a wi-fi only device you can simply put the phone into airplane mode and then urn on the wi-fi.
Unwanted programs I have used this program (link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628138
If your phone is rooted you can use the application manager to erase any app you want and hopefully thats good enough for what your looking for. I
It sounds like your looking to do more that I have knowledge in so hopefully this will help till you get the setup your looking for
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Airplane mode turns off the WIFI, too. It turns off any and ALL wireless signals, 2G, 3G, Wifi, any.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Airplane mode turns off the WIFI, too. It turns off any and ALL wireless signals, 2G, 3G, Wifi, any.
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You can re-enable WiFi after you enable airplane mode.
You could always go into the test call mode or whatever the field programming thing is and disable the radio from there. I forget exactly what the number is to call but it's the one that brings up all the field test tools and stuff...there's an option to completely disable the cellular radio.
Sounds like your basically looking for a honeycomb rom. Pretty sure if we just wait a bit we could possibly see something like that soon. I have faith in our devs.
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I am looking for something like this too. I just bought a bluetooth odb2 adapter so I can use my old eris to monitor my vehicle and do gps and music. I'll probably even make a sweet case for it so basically only the screen shows and it could be installed in the dash. It could sync music whenever I am home in range of wifi. Plus with the new google maps "offline" feature, I could cache frequently used areas.
I think you should go ahead and start something of a tutorial. Just start from a good lean stable 2.2 rom and document what you remove/add etc. and what apps work best for something like that.
If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
bftb0 said:
If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
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If you do that doesn't it also disable GPS except if wifi is on? I noticed that some still want to use GPS and I know that if you disable network GPS only works through wifi
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This is an great concept for a ROM. I have also been thinking about this, because shortly I will be retiring this little guy. I was going to give it to my wife because she refuses to get a smartphone and has an mp3 player from like 8 years ago that she refuses to upgrade! The Eris keeps my kids busy when we are out also. This way I wouldn't have to worry about my kids (or my wife) doing something stupid!
dpiddy14 said:
This is an great concept for a ROM. I have also been thinking about this, because shortly I will be retiring this little guy. I was going to give it to my wife because she refuses to get a smartphone and has an mp3 player from like 8 years ago that she refuses to upgrade! The Eris keeps my kids busy when we are out also. This way I wouldn't have to worry about my kids (or my wife) doing something stupid!
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True.
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bftb0 said:
If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
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Does it work better to remove the line from init.d or whatever? Or do errors finding files not matter?
There is a project underway to do this very thing, keep an eye on these forums and they'll be posting it when its ready for the world.
that sounds awesome can't wait to put it on my eris when i get the Thunderbolt!
and my next phone will have mobile hotspot so whenever I am in my car and away from my home wifi, my "carputer" will have internet access for maps. sweet
Randull said:
There is a project underway to do this very thing, keep an eye on these forums and they'll be posting it when its ready for the world.
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Do you know who is going to post it?

Can I run my fascinate on wifi only? Radio off?

I'm deploying to Afghanistan and will have my phone with me but am wondering if I can use it on wifi only. Basically airplane mode but wifi on. Not that there should be any Verizon signal there but figure it's safer to leave it like this. Are there any options? Often wondered this too for airplane flights where they offer wifi access but you don't want the cell radio on... Thanks in advance.
If you deactivate the phone Wifi will still work. There will be no connectivity to Verizon.
Enable airplane mode. Then turn on wifi.
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I accidentally flashed a radio zip file in heimdall. No errors or fcs. It simply wouldn't activate.
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mentose457 said:
I accidentally flashed a radio zip file in heimdall. No errors or fcs. It simply wouldn't activate.
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go here: wiki.rootedwiki.com/wiki/Samsung_Fascinate
grab the stock radio and reflash it. If that doesn't work then your phone not activating might be an unrelated problem. Check the developer forum and flash back to stock.
EngineNoO9 said:
I'm deploying to Afghanistan and will have my phone with me but am wondering if I can use it on wifi only. Basically airplane mode but wifi on. Not that there should be any Verizon signal there but figure it's safer to leave it like this. Are there any options? Often wondered this too for airplane flights where they offer wifi access but you don't want the cell radio on... Thanks in advance.
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Every droid i have i've turned into a mini media server when it was time to upgrade to a new droid. And all of them run on wifi only. To get the full benefits, you'll still need a google account. I'd also flash a 3rd party ROM. If you're not even going to be on Verizon, no reason to use their ROM with all the limitations (e.g. no free tethering, though that might not be important to you). I'd use CM7 or MIUI. If you're tied to touchwiz, there's a lot of good options too.

Removing /disabling phone some how

I am thinking of picking up a p500h and using it as a gps and mp3 players they are only 99$ here.
But I would like to turn the phone off do it will not use any battery.but if I do it turns of blue tooth also
(airplane mode).if I root can I uninstall or stop the phone from ever starting? Maybe uninstall phone.apk?
Thanks for any help
Its not a gps device or mp3 player,its a smartphone...deleting phone.apk will create a FC and you wont even be able to use the gps or music player function...
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nutpants said:
I am thinking of picking up a p500h and using it as a gps and mp3 players they are only 99$ here.
But I would like to turn the phone off do it will not use any battery.but if I do it turns of blue tooth also
(airplane mode).if I root can I uninstall or stop the phone from ever starting? Maybe uninstall phone.apk?
Thanks for any help
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Just by a cheaper phone without touch which has both the features
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Some smart phones have the ability to turn off the phone radio so it will not search for signal and kill the battery while leaving Bluetooth and wifi and Gps usable.some need the phone on to start the Gps then the radio can be turned off and the Gps will keep going.
I am hoping that some one here knows a way I can get the phone radio off and use everything else.
Finding an Android pda with a good Gps and all the features of the p500 for under a $100 is next to impossible.and I kinda like this phone all in all.so if it can be done it's a good deal for me.
Jrhodes85 said:
Its not a gps device or mp3 player,its a smartphone...deleting phone.apk will create a FC and you wont even be able to use the gps or music player function...
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From my experience if you rename phone.apk and reboot you should be fine. I do it on all my tablets to remove cell standby. Still have wifi and bt
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Simple solution ; flash baseband not compatible with your rom. Everything will work but GSM. Hit thanks if i helped
The phone I an looking at getting is gsm and hspa.will flashing the wrong base band disable both? If I re name the phone.apk will that work as good/well? Any other way to accomplish phone off with Bluetooth on?
What about use it with no SIM card. Does it do what you want?
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No even with out a Sim card the phone is still active and allows access to networks so you can make emergency calls.it's a feature they don't advertise much but all cell phones must be able to dial 911. On a network or not.
I could be wrong but my old phones worked that way.
nutpants said:
No even with out a Sim card the phone is still active and allows access to networks so you can make emergency calls.it's a feature they don't advertise much but all cell phones must be able to dial 911. On a network or not.
I could be wrong but my old phones worked that way.
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You're right... I knew I was missing something
I have been able to convince someone to rename the phone.apk. It appears to work the same as air plane mode as there is no cell standby shown in battery usage just phone standby (which is really just device standby).so far every thing seems to work fine Bluetooth works wifi works and most functions that access the phone radio FC error.(checking mobile operators etc.).
so just renaming the phone.apk is an effective option to disable the phone and still have Bluetooth for use.
Can anyone suggest a minimal ROM for Canada hspa phone?
nutpants said:
I have been able to convince someone to rename the phone.apk. It appears to work the same as air plane mode as there is no cell standby shown in battery usage just phone standby (which is really just device standby).so far every thing seems to work fine Bluetooth works wifi works and most functions that access the phone radio FC error.(checking mobile operators etc.).
so just renaming the phone.apk is an effective option to disable the phone and still have Bluetooth for use.
Can anyone suggest a minimal ROM for Canada hspa phone?
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Figured that would help.
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[Q] Retasking Rezound as a Media Device

Have a unlocked Rezound that I'd like to use as a media device.
Why? Because the device continues to work well. I have a spare battery and chargers, holster and case. It can do wireless (802.11). Plus memory space as well as SD card capabilities.
I think if it was possible to disable the cell modem within the phone, battery life would be increased. Would love to find a ROM that minimizes the bloatware, allows you to disable the cell portion of the phone but maintain the device's other functionality.
rjh20136 said:
Have a unlocked Rezound that I'd like to use as a media device.
Why? Because the device continues to work well. I have a spare battery and chargers, holster and case. It can do wireless (802.11). Plus memory space as well as SD card capabilities.
I think if it was possible to disable the cell modem within the phone, battery life would be increased. Would love to find a ROM that minimizes the bloatware, allows you to disable the cell portion of the phone but maintain the device's other functionality.
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I haven't seen a rom that lets you kill the cell radio all together and still keep wifi on. You can kill mobile data or put it in airplane mode when you don't need wifi either.
Install LTE on/off and turn off radio, WiFi can still be used, done.
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Put it in airplane mode, turn on WiFi. Done
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Grnlantern79 said:
Install LTE on/off and turn off radio, WiFi can still be used, done.
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That doesn't turn off the cell radio, just LTE...
Are you serious??? Ok then I have no idea what I am talking about. Wait on second thought no it's you that has no idea what your talking about. Oh and try things before you speak.....Good luck and don't listing to that guy I've used that program since the Thunderbolt
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@rjh20136 I'm partial to Sense ROMs and recommend Ineffable Deus for Sense 3.6, EclipticRez v9 (MHL fix included) for Sense 4. I use EclipticRez with either Sense 4 Car Mode display or XBMC app as a media device. I also use Poweramp and Google Music with ViPER4Android sound mod for car audio. Snuzzo's Funky kernel 3.7 version can underclock to 96 MHz to save battery more, try it out.
mjones73 said:
I haven't seen a rom that lets you kill the cell radio all together and still keep wifi on. You can kill mobile data or put it in airplane mode when you don't need wifi either.
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As Pmania said, toggle Airplane Mode first and then toggle WiFi back on by itself. I do this myself.
You can also access the Phone Info hidden settings on some ROMs by punching in "*#*#4636#*#*" on the stock dialer.
This panel controls global radio settings and can toggle the cell radio on or off independent of Airplane Mode. Do be careful not to select anything you're unsure of like changing regional frequencies.
Grnlantern79 said:
Install LTE on/off and turn off radio, WiFi can still be used, done.
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Grnlantern79 said:
Are you serious??? Ok then I have no idea what I am talking about. Wait on second thought no it's you that has no idea what your talking about. Oh and try things before you speak.....Good luck and don't listing to that guy I've used that program since the Thunderbolt
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To be fair, the grammar and lack of uppercase letters in the first post did not make it 100% clear you meant a specific app title rather than a generic toggle just for the LTE band. Mjones and likely others misunderstand at a glance.
I'm guessing the app is "LTE OnOFF - HTC Thunderbolt" by Cunning Logic. This app accesses that same hidden Phone Info panel accessed by the code I previously mentioned. Would recommend for the OP if the Airplane Mode trick is not preferable and the dialer code doesn't work on their particular ROM.
Other useful apps like Battery Monitor Widget can access the hidden settings too (BMW does it under the main menu > Tests button > Phone Information)
mjones73 said:
That doesn't turn off the cell radio, just LTE...
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Actually it does.
I'll be trying this. Will back phone up just in case I ever have to press back into service but I see an S4 in my near future...
I second the *#*#4636#*#* method. There is a button in there to do exactly what you want.
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