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Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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You will find it here.
Thank you!!!!
lightyear420 said:
Since updating to 2.1 I've had a few issues with the stock messenger.....a few times I've had send failed messages, then the recipient got the same text several times (lol) and lately I haven't been getting any notification of new texts until I actually open the messenger.
Is there something I can do to resolve this???
btw, I've looked for the stock 2.1 messenger apk around here, but I can't find it....can someone please provide me with a link
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Are you AT&T? If so, I had the same problem, especially with long text and MMS sending pics. I believe it was a problem within the APN. I don't know exactly how, but now I have 2 APN'S and the problem seems to be solved. I have MEdia Net and MEdia Net MMS, which is the AT&T brand name for their browser/network. I have tested the every APN setting posted in the forums, and they are the only ones that deliver large pics and 4page texts consistantly. If you need the settings, post here.
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yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
lightyear420 said:
yeah, I am using AT&T....that is actually part of my issue, and the other part is that the notification doesn't show up sometimes until I actually open the messenger.
I've downloaded handcent, and re-installed conversations.apk (the 2.1 messenger) just in case, and so far so good, but I haven't tried a really long text or large pic yet...I'll do that and see what happens
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I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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agentJBM said:
I found the notification problem was in my task killer. Set messaging to ignore fixed it for me.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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We have discussed the task killer apps extensively here. And the consensus seems to be that they actually cause more harm than good.
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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Hmmmm.....interesting read!! I'll give uninstalling ATK, startup manager, etc. a shot for a few days and see what happens. Thanks for the info!!
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Agreed if you just installed and use default settings, but if you take the time to hand set it up, it is a really useful app. Especially kill when screen off saves battery and data. I find I still have 30% battery on day 2 without charging. Without it my battery last 1 day max. If task killer effects an app/phone performance, then set it to ignore. No reason not to use it at all. Without it most apps with permissions would run continuously.
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My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
batman_112 said:
My battery is at 62% after more than 48 hours since unplugging it. I am an average user as I browse, text, calls...etc very frequently. I do not use ATK or juice defender anymore as I did not find any difference.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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I probably use my phone a lot more than the average person. I run my own business with my phone when I am out of the office, not to mention my new addiction to the xda app.
I check my ATK frequently because every day is a balancing act of battery vs usage. After using my browser for 30 minutes, I can't believe how many of my installed apps are running for no reason...the list is 2 screens long sometimes.
Without ATK I wouldn't have any way to free up my system?? Are you saying apps running in background or when screen off is better than using ATK?? Hard for me to believe, but you haven't mislead me yet, Batman. I'll give it a try and report back.
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Even if you see a long list of apps, sometimes it is not the whole app that is running but only part of it for a while to do a certain task. Android then terminates them when they are idle for a period of time. I also have my brightness set on the lowest setting and only switch on WiFi/3G when I use them. You can download toggle widgets (e.g. APNdroid) from the market to make it easier to toggle these settings.
Also, if you have weak 3G coverage in your area, then that also drains the battery as the phone is constantly searching for the 3G network. Therefore, sometimes I switch my network mode to only 2G (or GSM only) networks rather than GSM/WCDMA preferred.
In conclusion, there are many factors that contribute to how fast your battery is drained, and apps running in the background is certainly one of them but, definitely not the only reason.
Let us know how it goes
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Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Just went about 5 hours with ATK disabled and had my first random reboot ever. Hmmmm.
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uninstalled atk & enabled jit with xrecovery last night.....so far so good Phone is running really smooth....will report battery level after work today (I usually kill my battery every single day )
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Back in topic.. did you resolve your messaging problems? If so, what was your solution? I'm interested in hearing if you tried pics or long messages yet too?
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My solution is handcent It's much better for me than the stock app. The stock app is working, though. I tried mms & sms....both are fine. I found the custom vibrate feature in handcent and now I can actually feel it vibrate when I get a text because it stays on for a full second!!!
Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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Did you uninstall stock app? I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs? It reverts back even if I change it, but it works.
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I believe you have a plan with At&t, correct me if I am wrong. One of the APN is for the data and the second one is for MMS.
Nope....I just reinstalled the app directly over the old install
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I'm still trying to figure out why I seem to be the only one who has 2 APNs?
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I have 2 apn's with AT&T as well....media net and media net mms
My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
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he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
FlukiestEmperor said:
So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
lowspeed said:
Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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Since upgrading to 4.1.2 I'm suffering a bit with battery life. Looking at BBS, in the past 57 minutes my battery has gone from 100 to 92% I've had 242 wakelocks from GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.AndroidEndpoint
Now when I was on 4.1.1 I suffered terrible battery life until I unticked "Use wifi to help determine location", and then I was averaging about 32-34 hours to a full battery (about 3% per hour), great! I was very happy with that. Now I'm losing 7-10% per hour and this wakelock seems to be the issue.
After Googling about a bit there doesn't seem to be a concrete solution, so any help is appreciated.
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Since upgrading to 4.1.2 I'm suffering a bit with battery life. Looking at BBS, in the past 57 minutes my battery has gone from 100 to 92% I've had 242 wakelocks from GTALK_ASYNC_CONN_com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.AndroidEndpoint
Now when I was on 4.1.1 I suffered terrible battery life until I unticked "Use wifi to help determine location", and then I was averaging about 32-34 hours to a full battery (about 3% per hour), great! I was very happy with that. Now I'm losing 7-10% per hour and this wakelock seems to be the issue.
After Googling about a bit there doesn't seem to be a concrete solution, so any help is appreciated.
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Maybe you can log out of GTalk?
It seems to be a Gtalk issue so why not log out of it ?
Better yet,just uninstall it for few days and observe the behavior.
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Maybe you can log out of GTalk?
It seems to be a Gtalk issue so why not log out of it ?
Better yet,just uninstall it for few days and observe the behavior.
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Hi Eggman, thanks for your reply.
I should have mentioned in the first post, from what I've read it isn't actually Google+ that causes this, it's a general Google Account process, and to be fair I shouldn't have to log out of G+ to save battery, I don't with FB or Twitter. (I'm not shooting the messenger here)
Anyway, luckily I don't use G+ so it I have just loaded it up and logged out, let's see if it changes anything.
He says gtalk, you say g+... See the discrepancy?
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Sorry, I thought Gtalk was just a byproduct of Google+, basically like Facebook Chat is to Facebook.
Well, either way I've logged out of Google+ and it's completely killed the wakelock. Weird.
Gtalk and google services like gmail were facing a widespread outage today. So that's why the wakelock. It'll get fine once the service resumes normally.
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Must have been for the past few days then because it's been happening since I upgraded on Friday night. Either that or a coincidence.
Disable gtalk freezing it with titanium
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Keydogg1 said:
Sorry, I thought Gtalk was just a byproduct of Google+, basically like Facebook Chat is to Facebook.
Well, either way I've logged out of Google+ and it's completely killed the wakelock. Weird.
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No. Gtalk is independent of G+.
Gtalk has been there for years now... G+ only came last year.
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Hey, im interested to know how did you solve your problem, because it seems im having the same issue and its draining my battery quickly. Im also logged off Gtalk and i never use it...
Anyone?
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I am not alone then. I completely uninstalled Talk by titanium. And that fock still appears in the wakeup status.
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I am not alone then. I completely uninstalled Talk by titanium. And that fock still appears in the wakeup status.
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Yes it only started happening after LLA update! Its was fine on ELKC 4.1.2
Anyways if you find solution pls pm me
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My girlfriends Nexus 4 had this wakelock and it was draining her battery pretty quickly. I monitored it for a bit and realised that at work she connects to a free wifi network which blocks the ports Google Service uses to sync. I told her not to use that wifi network anymore and the wakelock has gone.
Could it be something similar to this for you?
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My girlfriends Nexus 4 had this wakelock and it was draining her battery pretty quickly. I monitored it for a bit and realised that at work she connects to a free wifi network which blocks the ports Google Service uses to sync. I told her not to use that wifi network anymore and the wakelock has gone.
Could it be something similar to this for you?
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Yes at my work we have proxy connection wifi and I realised when wifi is on this wakelock is and when I'm on 3g it isn't. But the weird thing I didn't have this wakelock at all before 4.1.2 with the same situation.
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Then probably I am the only one that Async_fock keeps showing even if I am not hooked up to wifi or hspa.
Still have the same problem on ELLC with gtalk and g+ uninstalled
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Ive had this issue for a while now, its a massive wakelock compared to the rest of them!
The solution that worked for me, although I need help with it, is to disable all the 'gtalk' entries under Google Framework Services in the app called Autorun Manager.
Freezing the app, or logging out has no effect as its linked with Gmail and Play store.
HOWEVER, when i disabled these entries i therefore couldnt get gmail to auto sync anymore (didnt try play store).
SO, there are about 5 or so entries in the framework that have the word 'gtalk'. If someone could find the entry that disables this lock but still keeps gmail (and whatever else) working properly that'd be great.
EDIT: look here peeps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22786143&postcount=3416
steelbeans said:
Ive had this issue for a while now, its a massive wakelock compared to the rest of them!
The solution that worked for me, although I need help with it, is to disable all the 'gtalk' entries under Google Framework Services in the app called Autorun Manager.
Freezing the app, or logging out has no effect as its linked with Gmail and Play store.
HOWEVER, when i disabled these entries i therefore couldnt get gmail to auto sync anymore (didnt try play store).
SO, there are about 5 or so entries in the framework that have the word 'gtalk'. If someone could find the entry that disables this lock but still keeps gmail (and whatever else) working properly that'd be great.
EDIT: look here peeps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22786143&postcount=3416
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Hey thanks man. But i didnt really understand the solution. Can you explain in simpler way. I have this wakelock mostly when im connected to wifi of my university (it has proxy server).
Thanks
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Still have the same problem on ELLC with gtalk and g+ uninstalled
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From what I've personally seen, that wakelock is related to some as-yet-discovered google service doing it's thing over Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi only. When connected to my house's Wi-Fi, I've seen in a couple of times...but there is a mobile AP at my work and I am guessing they've locked things up tight and might be restricting certain traffic.... in any case, when I am connected to the APs at work, that wakelock GOES NUTS. I disable Wi-Fi... and POOF! the wakelock vanishes. As soon as I pop it back in, the WL cranks back up again. I turned off Sync and it still keeps cranking. I tried disabling google's backup, you name it.. still there. I haven't quite found out exactly what process is throwing that WL... is there a way to find that out?
Something seems to be trying to phone home over my Wi-Fi, can't, and its throwing up a WL while it keeps trying. But when I'm running over the Mobile network, it's happy as a clam and never heard from. Is there a way to find the exact process/service that is triggering this wakelock?
Hey guys, im kinda new to android but im not new to computers... so please dont say stuff like turn off wifi or turn off bluetooth and gps
I have disabled S Voice, S planner, And most of the crappy samsung stuff. I have only 2 email accounts connected to my gmail app and yes my auto sync is on. My phone is not rooted and i do not intend to do so ever. I just want to use the stock rom and launcher..
So the problem im facing is horrible battery life. I generally fully charge my phone till 10pm and dont use it overnight... then in the morning i just listen to some music on the way to school for about 1 hour and 30 minutes (yes i know my school is very far away from my house). then my phone is on standby for like 6-8 hours. and then at about 3pm i use it again for music and facebook n stuff... by 4:30pm i only have 20-30% battery left with only 1 hour and 50 minutes of screen on time..
please help me to increase the battery life because im pretty sure that its supposed to last much longer.
PS nfc,voice command, google now,wifi,gps,bluetooth etc is off.
1. Using auto sync kills the battery. It is constantly checking for emails, syncing with Google, Facebook etc etc... this might be one of the reasons.
2. I suggest you put the screen brightness on auto. one of the biggest battery consumption of now a days smartphones are the big screens.
3. Try to upgrade your phone to a newer version, that might help either. some people report that after upgrading to a newer version, the battery life improved for them.
4. Turn of Mobile Data. This is a HUGE battery drainer!
That is what I can think of.
I hope I managed to help you
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1. Using auto sync kills the battery. It is constantly checking for emails, syncing with Google, Facebook etc etc... this might be one of the reasons.
2. I suggest you put the screen brightness on auto. one of the biggest battery consumption of now a days smartphones are the big screens.
3. Try to upgrade your phone to a newer version, that might help either. some people report that after upgrading to a newer version, the battery life improved for them.
4. Turn of Mobile Data. This is a HUGE battery drainer!
That is what I can think of.
I hope I managed to help you
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dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
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dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
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Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
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Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
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i already tried restoring it... didnt help.
and i took it to the service centre too, they are like "we didnt find any problem with it". im from india so the people in service centres here are useless, they are uneducated and dont care about others. So yeah no help from there
and does everyone have to root to use the phone as advertised i mean i just dont want to spend hours and hours on tweaking my phone so that it works as any other phone does.
and how many hours of screen on do u get on normal usage?
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Well dud i would take it to a service centre .
As you don't want to root then the only XDA device is to factory reset .
You can of course try a Samsung forum for more advice that does not involve root .
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I agree. . If you want to have a conventional phone, then use the conventional repair channels.
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ujain420 said:
dude whats the use of buying a smartphone (and one of the best too) and not use mobile data or at least use push mail... i mean come on!
and its updated to the latest version ie 4.1.1
isnt there anything else that i could do?
do others also get only 2 hours of normal use screen on time??
i didnt even play games or anything.... just fb and whatsapp and music
but thanks for the reply
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The most updated version is 4.1.2...
Facebook/Whatsapp/Viber/Tango, all these programs consume alot of battery as they need to wake the phone and check for notifications (messages etc... ). I'm not saying don't install them, I'm saying you shouldn't have the Mobile Data turned on all the time. I'm assuming you don't send a message every second, right? Or check the email every second? (and I also assume that you are not a business man since you go to school...) The world won't collapse if you don't check your email/Facebook/Whatsapp every 5 seconds. That is my advice to you, you can choose to accept it or reject it, its your choice.
ujain420 said:
i already tried restoring it... didnt help.
and i took it to the service centre too, they are like "we didnt find any problem with it". im from india so the people in service centres here are useless, they are uneducated and dont care about others. So yeah no help from there
and does everyone have to root to use the phone as advertised i mean i just dont want to spend hours and hours on tweaking my phone so that it works as any other phone does.
and how many hours of screen on do u get on normal usage?
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No use complaining here about a problem that you have complain to Samsung .
This is XDA developers forum not a fix your phone forum .We cannot help you if the battery lasts two hours its a fault rooting will not help .
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raied115 said:
The most updated version is 4.1.2...
Facebook/Whatsapp/Viber/Tango, all these programs consume alot of battery as they need to wake the phone and check for notifications (messages etc... ). I'm not saying don't install them, I'm saying you shouldn't have the Mobile Data turned on all the time. I'm assuming you don't send a message every second, right? Or check the email every second? (and I also assume that you are not a business man since you go to school...) The world won't collapse if you don't check your email/Facebook/Whatsapp every 5 seconds. That is my advice to you, you can choose to accept it or reject it, its your choice.
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i understand what u are saying. However i cant find any option to tell the gmail app to fetch my email every half an hour or so like it is in iPhone (in iphone u can choose ur fetch time). I dont get notificaions every second and even every hour for that matter but i need mobile data on for whatsapp atleast and i have already turned off facebook sync i.e. it only looks for notifications. i dont have viber or tango installed.
and do u really think mobile data is using up all my battery coz i saw this website that said the s3 can give up to 6 hours of web surfing.
ujain420 said:
i understand what u are saying. However i cant find any option to tell the gmail app to fetch my email every half an hour or so like it is in iPhone (in iphone u can choose ur fetch time). I dont get notificaions every second and even every hour for that matter but i need mobile data on for whatsapp atleast and i have already turned off facebook sync i.e. it only looks for notifications. i dont have viber or tango installed.
and do u really think mobile data is using up all my battery coz i saw this website that said the s3 can give up to 6 hours of web surfing.
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If you drop down the notification window, u should find there a Sync option. disable it. That should do it for the Sync issue.
You can't understand how much battery turning off Mobile Data saves...
Trust me, people won't go nuts if you don't answer them just as you receive the message
So you can chat with your friends, but don't forget to turn off Mobile Data, so it won't consume a lot of battery
AW: Battery not lasting more than 2 hours
I have had the same problem so I flashed the Siyah kernel and even overclocked it to 1,7 ghz. Awkwardly my battery lasts much much longer now. About 2 days of average usage.
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raied115 said:
If you drop down the notification window, u should find there a Sync option. disable it. That should do it for the Sync issue.
You can't understand how much battery turning off Mobile Data saves...
Trust me, people won't go nuts if you don't answer them just as you receive the message
So you can chat with your friends, but don't forget to turn off Mobile Data, so it won't consume a lot of battery
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so do u prefer i turn on wifi instead? does that use less battery than 3G?
and i know how to disable sync!
Looking at your screen shots there appears nothing wrong with your phone, it's doing exactly what Samsung intended it to do as a 'connected hub for your online life' - but it will eat your battery as the phone is working and communicating all the time while you're not using it.
Either live with a charger close at hand or disable the 30 or so rubbish apps and services they included to burn through your battery. Who cares about OTA updates, delete your Samsung account, check your facebook using the browser instead of an app etc.
I get 2 days use from one charge with at least 6 to 8 hours screen on time included, but my phone is only awake when I turn the screen on, doing what I want it to do - not amusing it's self when turned off. That requires a custom ROM or rooting at least to kill the persistant stock apps.
Using wifi instead of 3G will reduce power consumption quite a bit, especially if your 3G signal is weak.
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Looking at your screen shots there appears nothing wrong with your phone, it's doing exactly what Samsung intended it to do as a 'connected hub for your online life' - but it will eat your battery as the phone is working and communicating all the time while you're not using it.
Either live with a charger close at hand or disable the 30 or so rubbish apps and services they included to burn through your battery. Who cares about OTA updates, delete your Samsung account, check your facebook using the browser instead of an app etc.
I get 2 days use from one charge with at least 6 to 8 hours screen on time included, but my phone is only awake when I turn the screen on, doing what I want it to do - not amusing it's self when turned off. That requires a custom ROM or rooting at least to kill the persistant stock apps.
Using wifi instead of 3G will reduce power consumption quite a bit, especially if your 3G signal is weak.
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First of all thanks for an awesome reply
Secondly, I don't have any Samsung account enabled and how do I check if facebook is using the browser?
Btw which Rom do u use?
ujain420 said:
First of all thanks for an awesome reply
Secondly, I don't have any Samsung account enabled and how do I check if facebook is using the browser?
Btw which Rom do u use?
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Even if you don't use the Samsung apps & services they are still running in the background, you are certainly using the Facebook app as it ate a large amount of your battery. Disable the facebook app and instead use the browser to check it just when you need to, this is just an example btw - it won't solve your overall problem.
I use Vikingway ROM, which is a very stripped down version of stock so everything still works. It should double your battery life, but your online social life will suffer.
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Even if you don't use the Samsung apps & services they are still running in the background, you are certainly using the Facebook app as it ate a large amount of your battery. Disable the facebook app and instead use the browser to check it just when you need to, this is just an example btw - it won't solve your overall problem.
I use Vikingway ROM, which is a very stripped down version of stock so everything still works. It should double your battery life, but your online social life will suffer.
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i know i have disabled most of them from the applications manager. Come on i wont use fb on the browser, i had a htc wildfire s before this i have suffered enough
this is my first good smartphone and i really wanna make the most of it so yeah
what do u think about the cyanogenmod btw?
Install AppQuarantine
Disable Maps and Facebook. Them to alone cause most battery station with absolutely no use. You mentioned you use Facebook often.. Use a widget to quick enable+open/disable Facebook for example.
Facebook uses 5% battery just like that. Maps up to 15%
Whenever you reboot your device look at running apps. Almost everything should be killed except Google services.
Manage what syncs. Limit Google syncing to gmail only.
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Root:
Root your S3. Use SetCPU profiles when screen is off 200-300 ondemand governor. Under volt if necessary for that extra up to 5%.
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK
I seem to get varying degrees of battery life. Was getting great battery life with Perseus kernel, then all of a sudden after restoring from a nandroid backup it went terrible.
Mayeb going to switch back to siyah kernel and follow some of the battery life threads
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Install AppQuarantine
Disable Maps and Facebook. Them to alone cause most battery station with absolutely no use. You mentioned you use Facebook often.. Use a widget to quick enable+open/disable Facebook for example.
Facebook uses 5% battery just like that. Maps up to 15%
Whenever you reboot your device look at running apps. Almost everything should be killed except Google services.
Manage what syncs. Limit Google syncing to gmail only.
And then some
Root:
Root your S3. Use SetCPU profiles when screen is off 200-300 ondemand governor. Under volt if necessary for that extra up to 5%.
International S III 16GB / Dualboot 4.1.2 Stock & Cyanogenmod 10.1 / Gokhan's SK
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Thank you so much guys, I just got the 4.1.2 update and since then my battery lasts about 3 hours on screen on time and the standby time had also increased quite significantly. I have also turned off auto sync and that helps a lot too.
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I have no idea what's going on, and its extremely aggravating. I never use Facebook other than for when notifications show up, each of then pictures are taken of stats on a brand new s3 with a brand new AOKP ROM, and I have not even opened Facebook after a full battery charge and a reboot, and it still demolishes my battery.
I need help here, its driving me up the wall
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I have no idea what's going on, and its extremely aggravating. I never use Facebook other than for when notifications show up, each of then pictures are taken of stats on a brand new s3 with a brand new AOKP ROM, and I have not even opened Facebook after a full battery charge and a reboot, and it still demolishes my battery.
I need help here, its driving me up the wall
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seems to me like it's a wakelock bug which means that the application is preventing your phone from going into idle mode.uncheck all synch options and come back to report
Anaptiras said:
seems to me like it's a wakelock bug which means that the application is preventing your phone from going into idle mode.uncheck all synch options and come back to report
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Won't I loose the only thing I wanted facebook installed for, the push notifications?
Am I the only person who has this issue? there's gotta be someone else :S
Nillanic said:
Won't I loose the only thing I wanted facebook installed for, the push notifications?
Am I the only person who has this issue? there's gotta be someone else :S
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Try it the old fashioned way
Delete Facebook and reinstall it. I had the same problem with Google Maps once and it worked that way.
Reinstalled and same behavior.
I even force stopped the app out of curiosity, and its still draining, even tho its still stopped
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Try using greenify app
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Try using greenify app
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If he uses Greenifiy he won't receive any notifications from Facebook because the App will be hibernated.
That's right, Facebook will only sync when you open it, this is what fast Facebook does (which is very popular as it's a lightweight ver different version). Facebook is a big hogger but if you want instant updates, guess you'll have to put up with it. You could try clearing data, running sdmaid on a regular basis and clearing Facebook files, that might help.
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