So here's my problem. My Ps3 has been banned from my parents WiFi (despite my being a straight A student, captain of the golf and soccer teams, and working fulltime in the summers. Any who, I still have access to the WiFi through my phone and was wondering if I could use the droids built in tethering to create a wireless access point for the ps3?
Here's the unique part, I bought the phone myself off of ebay and it has a bad esn (so WiFi only).
Is this possible? If itI matters, I have access to the network settings and can change a couple of less noticeable settings but I can't just unblock the ps3 as that would be noticed and followed up with a password change.
Meany105 said:
So here's my problem. My Ps3 has been banned from my parents WiFi (despite my being aapplied straight A student, captain of the golf and soccer teams, and working fulltime in the summers. Any who, I still have access to the WiFi through my phone and was wondering if I could use the droids built in tethering to create a wireless access point for the ps3?
Here's the unique part, I bought the phone myself off of ebay and it has a bad esn (so WiFi only).
Is this possible? If itI matters, I have access to the network settings and can change a couple of less noticeable settings but I can't just unblock the ps3 as that would be noticed and followed up with a password change.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WIFI Tethering is through 3G only
Really? I've read on a couple sites about there being a mobile AP settings menu under the wireless and networks settings menu of some phones, this isn't present on mine (eclipse 1.3).
What about setting up bluetooth dun on a pc, and then setting up a wireless access point (on the DROID) using the bluetooth in place of 3G?
Meany105 said:
Really? I've read on a couple sites about there being a mobile AP settings menu under the wireless and networks settings menu of some phones, this isn't present on mine (eclipse 1.3).
What about setting up bluetooth dun on a pc, and then setting up a wireless access point (on the DROID) using the bluetooth in place of 3G?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure that in theory there is a way to EVENTUALLY get it working. But if you're trying to get a PS3 working through tethering and you mention Bluetooth in that, you're getting nowhere fast. Bluetooth is insanely slow.
On a good day, my internet tops out at 1mbps max. Isn't that the top speed of bluetooth 2.1 or is it 512kbps or am I making a complete fool of my self?
If dragonzkiller says it will not work then you can be assured you will not get it to work.
The WiFi Tether app works on 3G only, as it uses your phone's WiFi card to broadcast a signal.
Unfortunately, the broadcast signal is Ad-hoc and the PS3 only connects to infrastructure, so even if you did get it to work on WiFi, the PS3 wouldn't read the Ad-hoc network that your phone was broadcasting.
Alright I concede, oh well. Can't win them all
Thanks for the really speedy responses
Do your parents regularly regulate the router? Since you say you have access to the router's settings, are the ports the PS3 uses blocked or is the PS3's MAC address blocked? If it were those situations, you could change the blocked ports or MAC address by just one number. That way it still appears like the PS3 is being blocked. In the MAC address list, I'd also move the PS3 one to the middle so that it's not the last one on the list. This is based off the simple routers I've had in the past and my own experience growing up with restrictive parentals. If your steps creak, I also reccommend placing your footing away from the middle and close to the wall where the boards are nailed and flush. Also use your hands to better distribute the weight and at least avoid a really loud creak. If they are light sleepers, put your car in neutral and roll it out of the driveway. Don't start your car until you pushed your car down the road a bit. I have a lot more advice on the subject if you want. Just don't ask me what to do when your gf pinned you down in her foyeur at 2am and your phone butt dials your evil sister that will tell mom. There's no answer for that.
phieta said:
Do your parents regularly regulate the router? Since you say you have access to the router's settings, are the ports the PS3 uses blocked or is the PS3's MAC address blocked? If it were those situations, you could change the blocked ports or MAC address by just one number. That way it still appears like the PS3 is being blocked. In the MAC address list, I'd also move the PS3 one to the middle so that it's not the last one on the list. This is based off the simple routers I've had in the past and my own experience growing up with restrictive parentals. If your steps creak, I also reccommend placing your footing away from the middle and close to the wall where the boards are nailed and flush. Also use your hands to better distribute the weight and at least avoid a really loud creak. If they are light sleepers, put your car in neutral and roll it out of the driveway. Don't start your car until you pushed your car down the road a bit. I have a lot more advice on the subject if you want. Just don't ask me what to do when your gf pinned you down in her foyeur at 2am and your phone butt dials your evil sister that will tell mom. There's no answer for that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hehehe That is all
Yeah, I considered that. Might do it if I get desperate after midterms end this week.
The stairway thing I've known for a while, but the car ones a good suggestion, especially since my car has a dying catalytic converterand makes more noise than a heavy metal band.
The part about the gf had to suck for you, but luckily I've got enough dirt on my siblings that I don't have to worry (too much)
One of my favorites is to wait until everyones asleep and then leave a note on the counter saying I had to go to school early to work on ____ if you end up not being able to get back before they wake up this covers you and if you get back before they wake up you can just destroy the note.
Use PC as AP
Not sure if this is still a problem for you, but do you have a PC connected to the internet? If so, you can probably set up the PC as a wifi access point. This is really easy to do in Windows 7, and even easier in Linux (if you know what you're doing). There is also a program called Connectify that you can install to do this on Windows, but if you have Win 7, then all you need to do is run a few simple commands at the cmd prompt to set up your PC as a wifi AP.
quit soccer and golf and take up basketball, only then will your parents see you are truly ready for their wifi waves
Travisdroidx2 said:
If dragonzkiller says it will not work then you can be assured you will not get it to work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea he's kind of a big deal around here lol
Sent from my MB870 using XDA
HitMyKush said:
quit soccer and golf and take up basketball, only then will your parents see you are truly ready for their wifi waves
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hockey is where it's at.
I am a fan of your username.
More to the point, though, is that I don't believe this to be possible. Tethering is designed to be an access point through 3G/4G.
It would be painfully slow anyway. With 40Mb/s broadband you would struggle to get 1Mb/s if you routed it through your phone.
theredvendetta said:
Hockey is where it's at.
I am a fan of your username.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes hockey is where its at
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
No, No, No. Quit all sports and pick up a guitar. Music makes people happy. And chicks like guys who can play the guitar.
jsgraphicart said:
No, No, No. Quit all sports and pick up a guitar. Music makes people happy. And chicks like guys who can play the guitar.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I prefer to play the violin personally...but I'm self taught and not all that good but I tell you it is an awesome feeling when you can make a violin sing in only the way a violin can
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
trafalger888 said:
I prefer to play the violin personally...but I'm self taught and not all that good but I tell you it is an awesome feeling when you can make a violin sing in only the way a violin can
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've always wanted to try out a violin. Never knew anyone with one to play though. Im self taught as well. Guitar, bass, drums and a little bit of piano. I love music
jsgraphicart said:
I've always wanted to try out a violin. Never knew anyone with one to play though. Im self taught as well. Guitar, bass, drums and a little bit of piano. I love music
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The toughest part about the violin for me was finger position....notes are not too close together in the first position but in the third they are right on top of each other, but if you are just slightly off in either position the note is just sour and not right...but when you're on absolutely beautiful...also bow tension pressure etc is tough to get used to....you can get a cheap one for around 120-150 but if you love music you know how cheap instruments can be and sound
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
Related
Pretty much what the title says....details:
I ditched my horrible AT&Trash dsl to tether via my TB (faster speeds and saving $20/mo). Problem is, I recently moved and I have to have my phone right next to the window to get solid and consistent LTE signal, so every time I get a text or something I have to get up to go look at it, cause if I move my phone it'll drop to 3G (that's another issue....whenever it hands off from 4G to 3G I almost ALWAYS have to go into Airplane mode then back out or reboot for my TB to acquire 4G signal again...anyone know a quicker way? I have latest radios....) then my tethering all my but dies and I have to start the whole process over.
I am wondering if there is a way or maybe an app I can get where I can control my phone via my PC wirelessly while tethering.......from what I've read you either have to be connected via usb (window is too far away for that) and/or your pc and phone have to be connected to the same wifi network (which, if I'm tethering and my pc is connected to the internet via tethering to my phone, that isn't really true...is it?)
So.....any ideas?
Thanks much!
This may be of some help for texting. I use bluetooth for calls. I almost have the same situation.
Check out this Android Application I'm using "DesktopSMS" on my Thunderbolt. Check it out here: http://bit.ly/qApcgj
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is it??
htcdesirezgeorge said:
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"paying".....is a foreign word to me
So why are signal bars showing when i'm on WiFi with data and 4g off? Shouldn't the radio be off? And isn't that further draining the battery?
So this topic has expanded as noted below but the solution kills BT. Kinda sucks when doing things locally and no connection is needed.
Sorry, misread
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
Ahhh...yeah, i'd just hit airplane mode then. And I can actually turn airplane mode on then wifi mode, but that is a pain, especially since they failed to put airplane mode on the quick toggles. That is odd in itself. So I have to do the power press, turn on airplane mode then do the quick toggle and turn on wifi. Kind of a dumb workaround when quick toggling mobile data should suffice. I guess they assume you're doing the phone thing with texting so the tablet is treated more like a phone. Annoying, but I guess I solved my own problem. Airplane mode on then wifi on does the trick. Now if they'll add airplane mode to the quick toggle, it'll be a nicer setup.
Sent from my SPH-D700
i dont seem to be able to enable BT in airplane mode, anyone else?
When you turn data off, you do just that, turn off data handling for internet and email. This is a facility for people without unlimited data plans to save cash.
The phone radio is always on for SMS and MMS handling.
I know. I mentioned it in my 2nd post. The problem is some of us could care less about texting on a tablet and are more concerned with battery life. So if we're on wifi, we can go to airplane mode and turn wifi on. But apparently if you're on a plane and want to use your BT headset, you're screwed unless you turn off airplane mode and watch your battery drop like a stone.
Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
Sent from my SPH-D700
dbpaddler said:
Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
Sent from my SPH-D700
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...non of them let you fully turn off the cell radio unless in flight mode which turns off every RF transmission. BT is also a no-no when in flight on most airlines if you check...
I'd recommend using LTE OnOff from the Android Market.
While intended for the Thunderbolt, it's more or less just a shortcut to a menu of radio controls that already exists on your device. There's a "turn radio off" button near the bottom.
Farsquidge said:
Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
Sent from my SPH-D700
dbpaddler said:
I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and useaBT headphones.
Sent from my SPH-D700
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LTE OnOff will work regarless of device type. The fact that it has LTE in the name is irrelevant.
dbpaddler said:
I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
Sent from my SPH-D700
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
View was same price as flyer and had pen and double memory
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
If they can do Pogo I doubt BT is an issue. Regardless, turning off unused radios conserves the battery period and the only reason to have the cell radio on while on wifi is texting. Hopefully the LTE Toggle helps. I'll give it a shot next time I'm streaming sports talk or pandora on wifi.
EricSS619 said:
I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dbpaddler said:
I guess you confuse easily.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying (this is a mobile based tablet, not a PC!) and don't cry like a baby when on failing something I did not research!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
Usually when people make a statement and do the confused thing, they're usually being a bit snide. And based off of your response below, I was probably right. I'm sure if you took a poll of people buying tablets with data service, it would be a minute percentage that use it for texting since the vast majority of users are probably texting on their phones. I'm sorry you don't understand why people would want an always connected device.
And reading specs and understanding limitations? What a joke in regards to the ability to turn off a radio.
Sorry, much more content now about being insulting in that first post. Thank you for reinforcing my first sentence.
Farsquidge said:
No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying and don't cry like a baby when it doesnt!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
3. Wifi is "on". And no offense, but being always connected should be an option the user gets to control.
4. Just one instance. Again, the user should have control over what he wants "on" on "his/her" device. flying was just used as an exampled.
Bottom line is, cellular connectivity should not be "mandatory" in anything but airplane mode if it is not needed. It really makes no sense, nor does your justification of it being an "always on device". It's a "when I want it to be" device. I'm paying the $50 per month, not the other way around. And it is still a tablet first. It shouldn't be crippled because it has a cellular radio in it.
And again, wifi is part of being on so the option to turn off the celluar radio should be built in, not some workaround one needs to download. A
globatron said:
Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What truthfully makes me laugh about the OP's lack of understanding about this whole thread is, in his pursuit of saying what users should have (and no one else has a problem) is that most BT headphones have limited battery life themselves. I have BH-905's, DR-BT21G's and Jabra BT3030's and not one of these units batteries, outlive the Flyers battery, playing music (note: my cell radio is on all the time....) Video watching with BT is downright un-cool with inherent lag (on all tab's!) so the cable comes out for the noise cancelling BH905's on planes...
My car does not make coffee, and I will never expect it to!
Shame you obviously failed to read through the thread. Then you would've realized that BT was not my issue, but someone else's, and I was just trying to point it out and help. My only concern was shutting off the cell radio while on wifi. And I figured it out and posted it rather quick.
Bottom line is there should be an easy way to ditch the cell connection when its only function is for texting. It shouldn't come at the expense of BT and using airplane mode.
And even though it's not my issue I would have times at the gym when I'm on wifi, cell reception stinks, and I wouldn't mind using BT headphones to stream pandora or slacker.
What's even funnier is the same people that love rooting, romming and having complete control over their phones find issue with having the ability to turn a cell radio off when it's not needed aand part of it under the guise that the device is meant to be "always on", like it's a requirement of the device, not an option.
And the coffee/car analogy doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
Sent from my SPH-D700
dbpaddler said:
Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
Sent from my SPH-D700
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But now (or soon) you can... Maybe
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/20/2574130/microwave-hack-arduino-touchpad-youtube
Sent from my Nexus One
This weekend I put my Qs to good use. We had a birthday party for my wife. We were able to play music in two different areas controlled by our visitors. Not everyone had a capable phone so we let them use our Nexus 7 tablets and our Galaxy Nexus phones to help with the music. There were some buffering issues but I have one of the routers that Google says does not play friendly with the Q. The Qs worked great.
Saturday night we were watching 21 Jump Street (using our $25 credits) in the theater room. We decided we wanted to go into the bedroom so I was able to pause playback in one room and resume in the other. This was a cool feature I didn't even think about before. Again, the Qs had some buffering problems but they only appeared in one part of the movie and never came back.
I am ordering an Asus AC router to use with this so hopefully the buffering problem will go away. I haven't heard of any issues with the Q and the Asus routers. I have three Qs in all and use them all almost daily. My kids use them all the time when their friends come over to shoot pool or play video games.
You hear so many negative things about the Q that I thought I'd add some positive. I wish Google would have extended a $25 or greater credit to the Q as well.
What kind of internet speeds are you working with?
rican408 said:
What kind of internet speeds are you working with?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
60mbps cable with a Netgear WNDR3700 router.
btmec said:
60mbps cable with a Netgear WNDR3700 router.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well then.... you should not have skips from the play store. At least not on your side lol. Either play store or the q... I wouldn't think your router since many other people reported this problem. I have an Asus router, I will update when I get my q....
rican408 said:
Well then.... you should not have skips from the play store. At least not on your side lol. Either play store or the q... I wouldn't think your router since many other people reported this problem. I have an Asus router, I will update when I get my q....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The WNDR3700 is one of the routers that Google says doesn't work well with the Q. They don't state the specific problem.
are you kidding me?
you rich **** :crying:
So I got my q but it doesn't come with micro HDMI
Gotta snatch it back from my grandma lol
One thing I don't like about the Q so far is not being able to give ownership to more than one device. I, as the owner, should be able to use any Jellybean device I own on the Q. We have two Nexus 7s and 3 JB phones. I should be able to control the Q from any of those.
I'd also like to be able to stream audio from apps like Jango and Raditaz. BTW if you haven't used those apps you should try them out. They are like Pandora without commercials.
Other than that I am really liking the Q.
Update*
Streaming YouTube, play movies, and music with no issues. I have an Asus router with 35mbps cable modem.
btmec said:
This weekend I put my Qs to good use. We had a birthday party for my wife. We were able to play music in two different areas controlled by our visitors. Not everyone had a capable phone so we let them use our Nexus 7 tablets and our Galaxy Nexus phones to help with the music. There were some buffering issues but I have one of the routers that Google says does not play friendly with the Q. The Qs worked great.
Saturday night we were watching 21 Jump Street (using our $25 credits) in the theater room. We decided we wanted to go into the bedroom so I was able to pause playback in one room and resume in the other. This was a cool feature I didn't even think about before. Again, the Qs had some buffering problems but they only appeared in one part of the movie and never came back.
I am ordering an Asus AC router to use with this so hopefully the buffering problem will go away. I haven't heard of any issues with the Q and the Asus routers. I have three Qs in all and use them all almost daily. My kids use them all the time when their friends come over to shoot pool or play video games.
You hear so many negative things about the Q that I thought I'd add some positive. I wish Google would have extended a $25 or greater credit to the Q as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you have any issues with people essentially breaking others' music choices by selecting a new track too early? We tried doing this for a party, but the devices eventually ended up in a dueling situation where people were abruptly overriding the currently playing music.
rbozzo09 said:
you rich **** :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great post...
dustind said:
Did you have any issues with people essentially breaking others' music choices by selecting a new track too early? We tried doing this for a party, but the devices eventually ended up in a dueling situation where people were abruptly overriding the currently playing music.
We set rules for using it. If everyone disagreed with a song we skipped it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how many Q's do you own? - if you paused in one room and were able to continue streaming in another, doesnt that require multiple Qs?
spunks3 said:
how many Q's do you own? - if you paused in one room and were able to continue streaming in another, doesnt that require multiple Qs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I own three Qs. I have one in our home theater game room area, one in my home office, and in the master bedroom. I paid $193, $220, and $235 for the Qs. So I got three for the price of two. I wasn't going to buy the $193 but it was too good of a deal to pass up. I got all three of ebay.
So, I'm moving. And my PC doesn't have a WiFi card in it for the time being. Ethernet is out of the question.
I have an unlimited Verizon 4g plan... but I heard they don't let you tether for free anymore over their network with unlimited. (I can use WiFi root tether, but that's beside the point.)
I've tried using the Settings => Usb Tethering option, but stock sense doesn't let you tether without a 4g connection enabled.
Any ideas? (Preferably something without dumb limitations, like no https etc, but beggars can't be choosers.)
Thanks!
-Frankie
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting. Do you have HTC Sync on your pc?
Only way it'll let me do it is if I use data. I'll post screens in a min
See
illusionz said:
See
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
Sent from my VIPER DNA
reaverclan said:
I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
Sent from my VIPER DNA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
illusionz said:
Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
on PDANET atm with LEVEL II usage hiding and i was able to get into things like paypal with https and what not. So i think it would be fine, i don't have unlimited anymore so i use no hiding but i turned it on to see if it works and it seemed to. Im posting this with it on level II.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitely works and will do the trick for now. Thanks man.
The free version kind of blows... I go through the allotted data in like a minute.
Do you notice pretty low speeds, or connection drops when the phone goes to sleep? Do you know if I need to keep it always screen on or something? Or is this the level 2 screening?
Wish there was a way to do this natively without having to do all this, but will work in a pinch. Thanks!
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
reaverclan said:
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks bud, yeah it helps. I'll probably end up buying it eventually... WiFi Tether [Root] works fine for WiFi, but for some reason FoxFi scares me. I feel verizon will strip my unlimited away from me while using FoxFi. Not sure why I feel safer using the WiFi root tether app though.
they should be able to tell your tethering with a normal non proxied app. In reality though they can allways tell if they cared but unless your use more than like 6 GB idk they would care if your plan is expensive enough lol.
Yeah, I wish there was another way than pdanet to do it. Wish there was a way to tell if the speeds are just my phone or the free pdanet version.
how low are the speeds on speedtest.net on pc vs on the app on the phone, mine are almost same.
I was.... "Testing" the download speeds through pdanet. Its about 1000Kbs slower through pdanet.
January 13, 2014
Mr. Gregory Lee
President and CEO
Samsung Electronics North America
Samsung Telecommunications America
85 Challenger Road
Ridgefield Park, NJ. 07660
Dear Mr. Lee:
You are surely aware by now of the many WIFI and instability problems reported on the web regarding the Samsung Galaxy S and Note Smartphones. These appear to be independent of carrier, but may be related to Android 4.3.
I myself have spent about 20 hours tracing WIFI instability problems on my Verizon Note 3 including all the cookbook suggestions on the web, as well as installation of a new router and modem. None worked for me until I turned off the Bluetooth function – a temporary solution at best.
As an electrical engineer I understand the complexities of hardware and software interactions, as well as the potential interactions of RF devices sharing the 2.4 GHz band. However, the problems with your devices are now likely consuming tens of thousands of user plus customer service hours, on what may be futile trails. This wasted time and frustration could be avoided.
I think the honorable thing to do would be for Samsung to broadly acknowledge that they are having these problems, announce that they have a top team working on it, forecast a time frame when they may have a repair, and suggest temporary fixes for those who can’t wait and need them immediately. For many people this would suffice, since your strong reputation would be enough to give them confidence that help is on the way. In effect, this makes Samsung a hero rather than a villain.
Unless you do this, you will face a growing backlash from increasingly frustrated users who feel their time is being wasted by a company that wants to hide the issue.
Sincerely,
Steven M. Baer MSEE
steve181 said:
January 13, 2014
Mr. Gregory Lee
President and CEO
Samsung Electronics North America
Samsung Telecommunications America
85 Challenger Road
Ridgefield Park, NJ. 07660
Dear Mr. Lee:
You are surely aware by now of the many WIFI and instability problems reported on the web regarding the Samsung Galaxy S and Note Smartphones. These appear to be independent of carrier, but may be related to Android 4.3.
I myself have spent about 20 hours tracing WIFI instability problems on my Verizon Note 3 including all the cookbook suggestions on the web, as well as installation of a new router and modem. None worked for me until I turned off the Bluetooth function – a temporary solution at best.
As an electrical engineer I understand the complexities of hardware and software interactions, as well as the potential interactions of RF devices sharing the 2.4 GHz band. However, the problems with your devices are now likely consuming tens of thousands of user plus customer service hours, on what may be futile trails. This wasted time and frustration could be avoided.
I think the honorable thing to do would be for Samsung to broadly acknowledge that they are having these problems, announce that they have a top team working on it, forecast a time frame when they may have a repair, and suggest temporary fixes for those who can’t wait and need them immediately. For many people this would suffice, since your strong reputation would be enough to give them confidence that help is on the way. In effect, this makes Samsung a hero rather than a villain.
Unless you do this, you will face a growing backlash from increasingly frustrated users who feel their time is being wasted by a company that wants to hide the issue.
Sincerely,
Steven M. Baer MSEE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dear Mr. Baer:
Sounds good buddy, keep it to your blog posts though.
Sincerely,
Mr. Cabra
getting this off the top of my head but I think you want to take you letter and send them out executive email carpet bombing where u email all the head honchos at that monster company samsung
United states division will probably get you something if you contact a director or something
who knows
would be interesting if everyone who signed the petition emailed n' carpet bombed em
can you imagine their inboxes getting flooded
I'D LOVE IT
After fixing my own and helping others in threads with WiFi instability issues, a solid fix is to adjust the channel of the frequency within your router settings to match your device/phone/laptop
Also if you go barely out of range/back in/flutter the WiFi connection you will get this message
Thanks for sending a letter to Samsung for us though, not many ppl put in the effort
lmike6453 said:
After fixing my own and helping others in threads with WiFi instability issues, a solid fix is to adjust the channel of the frequency within your router settings to match your device/phone/laptop
Also if you go barely out of range/back in/flutter the WiFi connection you will get this message
Thanks for sending a letter to Samsung for us though, not many ppl put in the effort
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you got a how to thread about this? I know how to change channels on router but how do I know which match the note 3?
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
recDNA said:
Have you got a how to thread about this? I know how to change channels on router but how do I know which match the note 3?
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Every router we'll be different so the web console interface will be unique per router model.
You want to login to your router via Google chrome or IE, and navigate to something along the lines of Wi-Fi channel frequency.
There should be a range from 1-11 "channels" and you want to try one at a time. Yours could be different than mine depending on interference around you.
I hope this kinda makes sense. This also applies to general networking if your laptop Wi-Fi signal is weak sauce
Sent from my SM-N900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Thanks. I'm aware of the process. I thought there might be 1 or 2 specific channels that work best with Note 3. Through trial and error I do have a good connection. I just wondered if there was a better method than I used because it took quite a while.
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
What kind of routers are people using when they get this message? I've only gotten it once since having the phone on some random wifi network and the signal was dropping in and out
recDNA said:
Thanks. I'm aware of the process. I thought there might be 1 or 2 specific channels that work best with Note 3. Through trial and error I do have a good connection. I just wondered if there was a better method than I used because it took quite a while.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lmike6453 said:
There should be a range from 1-11 "channels" and you want to try one at a time. Yours could be different than mine depending on interference around you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
recDNA you are not alone, I too thought lmike6453's post made it sound like he had some secret info about the Note 3 working best on a certain channel or something like that. No worries!
Thanks for this. Hope to see the response. Anyone ever buy a Samsung device from Asia, etc. and try to connect to your USA home Wi-Fi, only to find out your device doesn't recognize the region code? Yeah, lame. Almost as lame as releasing the international note 3 region locked, and LTE version not compatible with AT&T LTE bands. OK, I will stop veering off topic, here. Please post any response to this great letter.
platinumrims said:
What kind of routers are people using when they get this message? I've only gotten it once since having the phone on some random wifi network and the signal was dropping in and out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've never had the message pop-up and I've had my Note 3 since the release day.
Jackseric said:
Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the play store app link for the Wifi Analyzer app (farproc).
Doing an occupied channel assessment like this is definitely a good practice for avoiding interference from other WiFi APs; but keep in mind that due to channel overlap a three-channel separation is best. Because of the pervasiveness of WiFi, it may be impossible to find such a "quiet channel" arrangements, though. In such cases though it is useful to at least avoid the same channels that the strongest nearby APs are using. A lot of consumer WiFi routers use default channels assignments of 3, 6, or 9 (so that folks that leave their APs with default settings always end up 3 channels apart from other "defaulters"... two-thirds of the time ). That suggests that if you are in an area with lots of WiFi (maybe an apartment building or something) try to get 2 channels away (1, 4 or 5, 7 or 8, 11) - at least the interference will be diminished a little bit.
There is one big problem with WiFi scanners though - they don't give a single clue about RF interference by non-WiFi devices in the ISM band(s). Microwave ovens, portable phones, baby monitors, bluetooth devices, yada yada yada. Perhaps there is a way to infer from re-transmission statistics whether or not one channel is better than another, but I'm not sure if such apps even exist, and due to the burst-like nature of many forms of interference (who runs their Microwave oven all day long?), you might have to observe a lot of data to figure something like that out.
Some of the statistics in this Cisco article ("Top 20 Myths of WiFi Interference") are rather startling; worth a look.
@steve181
Good luck getting any response from Samsung or Verizon. Not because I'm a cynic or anything, but because WiFi operates in a uncontrolled, free-for-all radio space which is basically a giant experiment started by the FCC. The fact that it operates at all - or even most of the time - is hardly some kind of guarantee that it will work in all scenarios.
They (Samsung/Verizon) are not going to come over to your house to find out what is wrong.
And the fact that you can find isolated reports of problems scattered across the internet is not a reliable metric of the incidence rate of problems. That's an "availability bias" problem with the data you have to work with. People with trouble go looking for solutions and people that don't have problems... don't. There might be widespread problems or only rare ones - neither you nor I have the data to support either of those hypotheses with any credibility, though.
The 802.11 protocols are extremely complicated and sophisticated - and complex, sophisticated protocols are good breeding grounds for interop problems (software bugs due to differences in protocol interpretation). It takes at least two to tango (the STA and the AP), and a bug could be on either side. Throw in uncontrolled interference from other random electronic devices, and who is to say that "this is Vendor A's fault" without any due diligence. ("Well, my other devices don't do this" is hardly proof of much - it's just a suspicion or hypothesis at best)
Don't like the results you are getting? Get a different phone, router, or neighborhood. Or fiddle with some settings on them until they work. Yeah it sucks and is a huge drain of time; but practically speaking those are the only alternatives when you run into a WiFi problem.
I once encountered an IT infrastructure bug that was a three-vendor bug: it only occurred with a specific client OS, a specific AntiVirus software release, and a specific vendor's multi-protocol (SMB/NFS) file server. Imagine what that was like trying to get any of the involved vendors to engage. Every WiFi issue has exactly the same 3-fold problem resolution tree: is the problem (a) the STA, (b) the AP, or (c) uncontrolled crap in the area?
good luck
Jackseric said:
Wifi Analyzer will look at all the wifi networks in earshot of your phone and tell you what channel they're on. You just pick one with the least chance of bumping into another network. No try and see method... just do it once. Test from the spot you're having the most trouble, typically the farthest spot from your router that you'll be using the wifi. (I tried to post direct link to the app in Google Play, but I'm too new of a user and the forum wouldn't let me)
recDNA you are not alone, I too thought lmike6453's post made it sound like he had some secret info about the Note 3 working best on a certain channel or something like that. No worries!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Funny, I had wifi analyzer but there was no congestion on any channel so I just used trial and error. I have very secure and fast wifi now. I do think I have an excellent router though. Fairly new with lots of options.
Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
toddnbrown said:
Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This makes me wonder whether indeed I should get a Dev edition Note 3... until this is resolved...
Another reason this is unacceptable is many people do not have access to router settings in corporate environments. This should be embarrassing to Samsung. Imagine their reputation when in a meeting someone says oh sorry, I can't connect to WiFi I have a crappy Samsung. Then another guy says oh, that sucks. I have an iPhone it works just fine. Hm. They need to get their crap straight on this and not ignore it like Apple and go all "you're holding it wrong" on us. This thread should be enough for the engineering team to start from and fix this issue permanently.
So do you guys notice a difference in performance or is it just words telling you something is wrong while it's working fine? What if Samsung is the only one trying to help and others just mute the warnings
+1000000
I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't get my vzw retail note 3 to play nice with my chromecast. HTC one, no problem. IPhones 5 and 5s, no problem. Nexus 7 (2013), iPad air, no problem. I too have wondered in frustration how it could be possible that a flagship device from a company as high profile as Samsung (only the #1 android device maker in the world) could put out products with such major problems. I'd say that inability to maintain a stable WiFi connection is a pretty significant shortcoming in a device that is essentially a vehicle to access the internet. It's things like this that allow fanboys to say "apple stuff just works." Because it does. Apple has trained to consumers to expect that things will 'just work'. And why shouldn't they?
And while you're at it Samsung, fix the audio stuttering with the screen off. Jeez!
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
oktrav said:
+1000000
I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't get my vzw retail note 3 to play nice with my chromecast. HTC one, no problem. IPhones 5 and 5s, no problem. Nexus 7 (2013), iPad air, no problem. I too have wondered in frustration how it could be possible that a flagship device from a company as high profile as Samsung (only the #1 android device maker in the world) could put out products with such major problems. I'd say that inability to maintain a stable WiFi connection is a pretty significant shortcoming in a device that is essentially a vehicle to access the internet. It's things like this that allow fanboys to say "apple stuff just works." Because it does. Apple has trained to consumers to expect that things will 'just work'. And why shouldn't they?
And while you're at it Samsung, fix the audio stuttering with the screen off. Jeez!
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously my galaxy note one was hella stable compared to this locked down piece of garbage
Sent from my SM-N900V using XDA Premium HD app
throw in about no stock files for developer edition too please lol
toddnbrown said:
Changing router settings is not okay... As a temporary fix, maybe. But to act like it's not a problem with the phone because you were able to change router channels, or have the latest greatest router, misses the point completely. If everything else you have has no issues with wifi connectivity to your router, why should you have to change anything at all to get the Note 3 to have a stable connection? Not everyone is a computer whiz or has the time to mess with all that. Wifi is a basic function of a phone that should work out of the box. Just my 2 cents. Not trying to start a debate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
macdroid01 said:
This makes me wonder whether indeed I should get a Dev edition Note 3... until this is resolved...
Another reason this is unacceptable is many people do not have access to router settings in corporate environments. This should be embarrassing to Samsung. Imagine their reputation when in a meeting someone says oh sorry, I can't connect to WiFi I have a crappy Samsung. Then another guy says oh, that sucks. I have an iPhone it works just fine. Hm. They need to get their crap straight on this and not ignore it like Apple and go all "you're holding it wrong" on us. This thread should be enough for the engineering team to start from and fix this issue permanently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that the technology should be automated in the sense of pairing frequencies after scanning for the best one. Until then, all ya can do is be grateful that wireless even exists compared to a decade ago's technology, it's still in overall infancy stage.
platinumrims said:
So do you guys notice a difference in performance or is it just words telling you something is wrong while it's working fine? What if Samsung is the only one trying to help and others just mute the warnings
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's just a notification that remains stickied in the notification drawer if at ANY point in your connection it is recognized as unstable. Really, the whole "issue" is blown out of proportion to me since it works as normal and you wouldn't know of any difference if it just didn't report anything like other Android phones.