Hello people, just wondering if there is any App that a designed part of size of the microSD and simulate that's internal memory, something like that cause the real thing is that I am getting without free space on my internal memory....
I have moved several app to SD card but this is not enough it seems..
any idea?
thanks
BR,
chatfan
This is a common and well know issue on desire phones due the limited internal space memory... the only way to solve it (but you still will have a "limited" device) is the procedure which starts from rooting the device and procede thru several steps... unlocking it, installing a custom recovery, installing a cooked rom... then optimizing the whole system.
you can install an app called app sd to make sure you have all the movable apps moved. also going through and clearing the cache and or data in some apps can free up MBs of space.
if that is still not enough i would suggest rooting which would allow you to delete some of the system apps you dont need.
still not enough? then go full blown and get a custom rom going. there is a whole section of xda devoted to it. take a look. and good luck.
If you are rooted, then goto the following thread ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670087
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Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
rtorbs said:
Guys I need some clarification around app2sd or indeed apps2sd, apps2sd+ etc etc...
Basically whats the differnece? I know some versions only allow certain apps to be moved buts whats the apps2sd+ method ? and how do I go about getting it ?
I dont have masses amounts of apps but my current method (app2sd) only allows certain apps to be moved....I want to move all and app data if poss ?!
cheers in advance
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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I am not aware of any apps + data to SD. I must ask though, why are you so keen to move stuff off /data?
Remember that there is no advantage in having lots of free /data space, so you're better making use of it. If you have so many apps that you need the space, then look at apps2sd and dalvik2cache or dalvik2sd, since that stores the dalvik cache onto the SD card too.
Also, what method are you using? You should be using the EXT method rather than the froyo method, as that stores all apps on the SD card, and doesn't listen to the developer's preference about storage.
I don't know what apps2sd+ is that you talk about though, as I don't recognise the term. Do you mean apps2sd + dalvik or something like that?
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Yeah sorry mate its probably my inexperience on all things android showing here....
Basically Im using the EXT method, 0 swap, 512 ext3 and rest Fat32 i think? coupled with the sam lu version of app2sd and tbh its fine its just I received the latest update for it which now shows which apps are 'phone only' so only really came to light recently....
I currently only have 11 apps 'on SD' with 37 on 'phone only' (maybe 55 apps in total) and wondered if this was normal ? or have I set something up wrong ? Phone memory shows 104.58mb free from 165.75mb....
So approx 1 in 4 apps are being moved to sd shall we say (please dont shoot me other the maths either lol)...surely im going run out space within the next 100 apps if 50 apps to date has used approx 60mb (cant see it happening though as i dont see myself installing that many) or is the majority of the used data used for other processes ?
Just trying to get my head around the whole thing thats all....and was wondering if you could realistically have 200+ apps as mentioned in multiple threads.
And as for the apps2sd+ maybe that was an error in the way i read/interpreted a thread so ignore it....
Irrespective everything works fine, was just curious thats all
Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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Hold on... can you check, as I think your apps are all being held on the SD card just now.
Using a file browser, go to /system/sd and check out the app folder. Compare the contents with /data/app and see if it matches.
Remember the dalvik cache and data use up space, so dalvik2cache or dalvik 2 sd should be next on your list if you want hundreds of apps.
I think you are just getting told apps are on phone when they are on SD, since android can't tell when you are using this apps2sd method or not
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edit - Right I must have seriously done some thing wrong here? using astro to check /system/sd is empty and there is no /app folder fullstop within /data ? WTF?!
I have just flashed FoydVillain 1.5 but have since restored all apps and got back to a point where I was when I subbed this post...blagged !
Ive gone back to the drawing board and revisited the 'newbie guide to rooting' thread and doubled checked the apps2sd instructions, I want to run the gscript check to see if its set up right but cant find the check.zip file thats mentioned in the guide (says its attached at bottom?! but I cant locate it) where can I get it from otherwise?
cheers
Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
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Use the vr wiki article to get the script. Click wiki and search apps2sd.
Did you use a file browser with root BTW?
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Cheers Ill have a look today....
Can you expand on 'a file browser with root' though please, I have a file browser and root access but not sure what you mean....
Ta mate
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Ive managed to run the check script through gscript and apps2sd is working but without dalvik-cache but at least its a start....will now look at sorting that cheers pulser!
Hi guys. I've reached my breaking point on the anemic app storage space on our handy dandy little device. So far I've avoided any real mods for this device because I didn't want to start a new habit of flashing on the regular (been there, done that, fun but sometimes time consuming). But right I can't install any large programs without having the constant low space message. So if the only real functionality I need is an extended app storage partition what method would be best to achieve that. Thanks in advance everyone.
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Hi guys. I've reached my breaking point on the anemic app storage space on our handy dandy little device. So far I've avoided any real mods for this device because I didn't want to start a new habit of flashing on the regular (been there, done that, fun but sometimes time consuming). But right I can't install any large programs without having the constant low space message. So if the only real functionality I need is an extended app storage partition what method would be best to achieve that. Thanks in advance everyone.
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I think there is only one way: Urukdroid.
I thinks its the only way to extend app partition Try it
Okay follow up question, should I then get a ne SD card as mine is only class 2, or should I install on internal. Pros?cons? Again thanks
dancnpete said:
Okay follow up question, should I then get a ne SD card as mine is only class 2, or should I install on internal. Pros?cons? Again thanks
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Install on sd card is better if you want more space on your tablet
But otherwise i prefer install on internal
There is a thread in here somewhere in which a fella found that gen8 devices keep a cache of old APK files. I cleared out that cache and it fixed all my maddening app storage problems. Look for that thread.
I tried finding the thread you mentioned with no luck, any idea what to search for?
I just spent a good 20 minutes searching and couldn't find it either.. weird. I'll see if I can't find the directory on my own when I get home.
Can you get a temp root? That's necessary.
Knowing there is an answer is half the battle.
I found .apk's in internal \Downloads directory and \system\APK. I didn't even have to use adb, just mounted the disks and used explorer.
I can confirm that deleting them doesn't hurt anything. However, there really wasn't that much and it didn't help my sort of storage issue.
I haven't tried this on my A101 yet, but Link2SD http://market.android.com/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD should work. You will have to create a second partition on your internal storage or SD card though.
This device is plagued with a miserably small storage space to store applications on; 160MB system storage and 1GB internal memory. Although I've been moving the compatible apps to the "SD card" a.k.a. internal storage, that 160MB goes insanely fast. I've used link2sd and it helps but doesn't exactly fix the problem, and I would like a permanent fix.
My question to everyone here is how would I go about resizing the partitions safely? I know it has been done for Kindle Fire so it IS possible, but every device is different and I really don't want to brick this phone quite yet.
I am hoping that it is possible to remove the internal storage partition and extend the system partition by that 1GB just so I know for a fact that I'll never worry about app storage again; if not that at least shrink the internal storage and add 500MB to the system partition.
This phone is currently rooted and equipped with clockwork mod recovery, superuser, and busybox. The stock rom has also been backed up via CWM recovery.
Hope to hear from you guys soon!
[Edit] Also I realize this is a cheap phone, but it most definitely does what I need it to other than the lack of useable app storage.
Not to be that guy, but I'm bumping. This thread hasn't had a view in about 12 hours.
Any thoughts, or suggestions? Just want to tell me I'm crazy and shouldn't do it? lol
I'm running the latest CM snapshot. I've been getting the infamous "Insufficient Storage Available" error for a while not, usually with chrome. There are various solutions. The "delete /data/app-lib/<app>/lib" solution was working ok for me but I can no longer find chrome in there anymore for some reason. I've already moved every app that can be moved to the "internal" SD card. All the "solutions" are really just workarounds trying to clear space.
Is it possible to increase the size of the partition by re partitioning the internal storage?
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I'm running the latest CM snapshot. I've been getting the infamous "Insufficient Storage Available" error for a while not, usually with chrome. There are various solutions. The "delete /data/app-lib/<app>/lib" solution was working ok for me but I can no longer find chrome in there anymore for some reason. I've already moved every app that can be moved to the "internal" SD card. All the "solutions" are really just workarounds trying to clear space.
Is it possible to increase the size of the partition by re partitioning the internal storage?
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Move some apps to the SD card.
tj13 said:
Move some apps to the SD card.
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I know that apps can be moved to the SD card. That isnt a solution nor my question.
I'm asking of the internal storage can be repartitioned
I'm having the same issue. I desperately need to reparation my phone.
i'm running viper rom with the sdcard swap mode.
i'm now back to getting insufficient memory messages when trying to update apps or sometimes run apps. it shows i still have plenty of free memory... i have been moving apps to sd card and that works for a little while.
j13smiley said:
i'm running viper rom with the sdcard swap mode.
i'm now back to getting insufficient memory messages when trying to update apps or sometimes run apps. it shows i still have plenty of free memory...
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You need to look at internal storage, not SD card storage.
So I did system dump today to explore the files on my computer see what's hogging all of my space.
Background: I have only have 13 apps installed.
What I found is that my data/data is 346 MB and my data/delvik-cache is 452 MB.
So the files installed by CM are getting more numerous and of greater size. Not sure what to do to solve this problem.
articzap said:
So I did system dump today to explore the files on my computer see what's hogging all of my space.
Background: I have only have 13 apps installed.
What I found is that my data/data is 346 MB and my data/delvik-cache is 452 MB.
So the files installed by CM are getting more numerous and of greater size. Not sure what to do to solve this problem.
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same issue here. davlik cache is similar to a cache of your applications so they start faster. So it doesnt matter if you move apps to SD, you'll still have davlik.
Also, many apps will still store data in internal memory eventhough the app itself is on SD. I wish there were a way to move the data.
Or as I initially suggested, re-partitioning.
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same issue here. davlik cache is similar to a cache of your applications so they start faster. So it doesnt matter if you move apps to SD, you'll still have davlik.
Also, many apps will still store data in internal memory eventhough the app itself is on SD. I wish there were a way to move the data.
Or as I initially suggested, re-partitioning.
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well, there isn't ANY easy re-partitioning tool for android out in the wild that i KNOW of ... but, (at least to let you know) ... I'm currently still trying to _hack_ something together similar to the internal storage-partition upgrades that the other HTC One devices with MSM8960 recieved ... where they officially unified the /user partition with the internal /sd-card (fat) partition! ... it might take a few weeks until i have something to show around (as work keeps me very busy throughout the week), but i'm working on it.
just as a quick question so CM currently DOES put it's dalvik to the /user partition??? i thought they put it to /cache??? (at least on CM10.1 and CM10.2) ................ so feedback would be highly welcome :laugh:
Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
Vonino Onyx QS root request
+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
SilentGTX said:
Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
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Muravey said:
+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
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try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
Successful rooting of Vonino Onyx QS tablet
Paget96 said:
try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
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Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
Muravey said:
Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
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10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
Paget96 said:
10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
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Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
Muravey said:
Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
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Brcause sd work without stop, that is not good.
SD prob
Hi, i have the same tablet ... and i managed to root it ... but i cant manage to increse the storage . l've done the exact stepts ... installed micropartition deleted my sd card (2gb micro sd samasung) i did the first partition fat32 primary with a size of 800 gb and when i try to make the second one ext4 the program says that windows cant see the second partion on a removable device but i continuued anyways ,,, and created the second one with ext2 and then with ext4 as primary ... my windows and my tablet cant see the second partion ... need a little help ... thx
I heave installed the drivers, and nothing happens. Its not connecting to my pc. I changed the pc too. I heave the error: Unfortunately, Mobile data has stopped. I tryed to repair this with recovery -- Wipe data, factory reset. Not working.