Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
I think it's time to put the screws back to HTC to make good on their "promise"
This phone WILL be going back if they don't unlock it.
It's ok, as good as these devs are... I never really expected full root unless HTC unlocks the phone.
I just hate that this site, well at least the 3D section has become retardedly over moderated. Perfect example of someone who doesn't need a bus patrol badge IMO.
In before thread lockdown lol
mikeyxda said:
Been spending too much time flipping back and forth between the dev forum and here trying to find the latest scoop on what is going on with a permanent root solution. With the threads getting closed and people getting banned over on the dev forum, not even the devs are posting any real updates there any more. And here... the threads are broken up. So how about one consolidated thread to talk about status, rumors, etc.? ONE place to go to get the latest scoop.
For example, TeamWin posted on Twitter yesterday that there are no big announcements and they've run into a lot of roadblocks. Also said something about having to try different avenues now. Sounds like permaroot could take a while. Maybe someone posted that info here somewhere, but it's hard to tell where to look any more to find the latest status, rumors, and talk about root. Even the devs have given up posting in the dev forum.
Mike
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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Yep that's exactly what I was about to say. Heck, it's even stickied at the top of the dev page.. Not sure why this thread exists.
If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
and its very informative
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That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
That thread (and the other one there) don't do the job. That's why this one exists! First of all, if I only wanted to be updated once a day, there wouldn't be a worn out blank key between F4 and F6 on my keyboard.
Second, us "normal" users can't post in that forum and those threads are not updated as regularly (or as well) as you say. Right now, if you wanted to know the latest status (from Twitter) that says "#teamwin No big announcement tonight. We hit some pretty big road blocks. But I'm working on a new angle to Fre3dom" you can't find it any place but here. People who have their ear to the ground should be able to post what they find... when they find it.
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well buddy looks like you're just asking for way too much...
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there already is a thread in Android development that's updated once a day that gives the latest updates. Its actually great too
thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
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If you guys actually want success with the return under 30 days policy, you need to give that threat to the CARRIER and have them place the pressure on HTC. It will NOT hurt the HTC bottom line if you return your phone to sprint. Sprint already bought the phone FROM HTC. So it hurts Sprint, not HTC.
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You won't get an ETA because one can't be given yet. Until someone actually achieves a full unlock, you can't possibly say how long it will take. You just keep trying different things until you break through. Once a full unlock is achieved then it's a matter of hours or a few days before it will be released so that the unlock can be put into an easy-to-use format & combined with other nice things like a custom recovery. There's also no telling who will find the unlock. It might be TeamWin or Unrevoked or someone else.
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Well, in that thread....my is there no mention about fre3dom..just says about the fre3^vo and permanent root..nothing about s-off coming up...on the the status and upcoming items are?
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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fre3dom is full root
Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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Well put rank! And enough with the mods being to harsh and people won't post blah blahblah.! That's a dead horse! Move the hell on! Old news pal!
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Guys, can we please use better judgment when creating new threads? Many threads are redundant and is only cluttering the board. The Hero and EVO 4G boards were cleaner and more mature, then again maybe its because newer posters have less experience with forum etiquette. There are threads that adequately address the root status and progress, you can't get updates like a stock ticker. Your unrooted phone won't gain a thing from minimal updates, and asking for more than an update a day is a bit impatient. Let the devs work in peace, they are not obligated to do this and I'd rather they try to achieve full root rather than worry about reporting news. Even when they update no news they get criticized?
Not trying to be a **** or anything, but this is getting embarrassing. I have been getting tired of XDA because of the EVO 3D board, and thats a shame. I've seen devs walk away because of the behavior of people and to be honest its hard blaming them. If there is an update it'll be in the threads, the info is not hard to find. Let these guys work, they hammered away at code over the holiday weekend too so give them a break.
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
Whenever anyone posts in the the dev threads they are usually told to go make a post in general. Thats what this op did. I would rather see this thread created to discuss speculation then see the mods freak out because people are cluttering up the dev threads and start locking **** down so that the real Devs have to go post to forums other than XDA to get the word / files out. THAT is embarrassing. Not posting a thread to help keep the dev threads clean. Its not in the Dev forum, its in the general forum.
Let it be.
Oh and yeah... I'm not trying to be a **** either. Just telling you how it is when the Mods freak out over people talking in the Dev thread.
And who did you see walk away? They werent dedicated to the cause if they did. A real dev knows "newbish" behavior and also knows you wont stop it. EVER. So if they left... I say to them... Bye bye.
Fred3dom is no root...no shoot Sherlock..do we need to be censored for asking questions? To some..like me...root is a step to a more important goal...s-off. I am basing my decision to spend hard earned cash for this beast. And if these threads are out of hand...go to any forum...see if there is not humor(sometimes not related to the topic)...see if there is not a release of ideas that are free flowing. See if there is not a bond or sometimes hatred for others. The rules state...this thing is called xda is for sharing of ideas...by the community for the community, developers of software for these devices and newbies that need help. If we have such strict rules...then why have this forum? Learning is done by asking questions and sharing knowledge..not be being so strict...you don't have room to ask questions...and ideas are free forming as is knowledge...they are not something that can be censored...get a grip. ****...we could't even say thank you to the people who work hard to reach a goal...I don't know if you ever had a simple thanks for good work....this is just as important as info...and if you have not noticed...this thread is for root...for you it became a soapbox for yourself...what the he'll does that have to do with root?....a soapbox also...is not root.
Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Who are you talking to, me? Or the guy a couple posts above me?
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Is not the noobs whos making dev leave is the moderators but i guess u guys all stick together, i think this is a good thread cuz he stated clearly for what it was for n instead of complaining for what he did what we should do is post any news if we had any
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I think that this thread is better judgment. The Op posted that he wanted to discuss status, rumors, etc... Go post rumors in the actual dev threads. Tell me how that works out.
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
Mike
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Exactly! And try to find one thread where all the latest rumors and info is being posted. DOES NOT EXIST. That's exactly why this thread exists. So in keeping on topic, the latest rumor mill shows that HTC is apparently getting ready to unlock the bootloader on the Sensation. Rumors are the 3vo shouldn't be far behind. Details are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155755
My proposal was to keep ALL of this new info in ONE thread. Else you end up with the problem I was trying to solve which is every new little tidbit creating a new thread. Tomorrow "New email from HTC..." will be irrelevant to most and that'll scroll off the bottom of the forum and get lost for the people who haven't seen it yet. Post all this stuff HERE and we can keep up to date.
I know forum etiquette: I run my own forums. So I don't need lectures from mod-wanna-be's. But this IS a good place to keep all the info where everyone can see it: IF people stop posting every little tidbit as different threads.
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Well said, i like this thread n thanx for the news, i really hope they unlock it
I would appreciate some guidance with my question. I have a G-TAB that is running the Android 2.2 OS. I am aware that there are better OS systems available for the G-TAB with more capabilities, but I have heard that some of them disable FLASH and the CAMERA capabilities? I was wondering if there was a better OS upgrade out there in the development world that would not disable some of the origianl G-TAB features? Also, since I am a novice in this area, is there a service available that will perform this OS upgrade for me for a price? Please advise as I would like to move forward with the suggested upgrade. Many thanks!
There are some good froyo roms such as brilliant corners, mountain laurel, And a couple more that don't lose any functionality. There are plenty of guides to follow to change roms. Just read them carefully and follow the instructions. Don't pay someone to do it.
I'm more than happy to do it but I'm expensive. Considering that it costs 200+ more to buy a unit with Linux on it, I would charge the same for any possible version of Android. The majority of the price is the liability and time. I can fix anything, that's not the problem. The real problem lies in how we're forced to upgrade devices. It's a pretty straight forward process but if anything goes wrong it could take hours of research to figure it out.
If you're willing to pay $200 and ship it to me with a return label, I'm more than happy to help you out. Honestly you could do the same things I'm going to do if you put a little time into the research here on XDA and the other forums out there. If you're too busy or not technically inclined I can understand that. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes as they say...
PM me if you still need someone to help.
I'm not aware of any real service for flashing tablets. But we aware that if you pay someone to flash a new ROM you'll have no knowledge of how to fix it when things go wrong. And things will eventually go wrong. If you want to run anything other than stock, it's absolutely necessary to understand at least the basics of modding android devices. Check out http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ to get started. Good luck.
seiously, these topics are getting OLD quickly...
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Patience yoda we have a young padawan among us
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Patience yoda we have a young padawan among us
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Obviously not an illiterate one, though.
Does anyone ever read first, then ask questions anymore?
I know that it can get confusing, but really. Before I got my Gtablet back in April, I read just abotu every thread on here, and watched just abotu every youtube video available.
Was I fearful when I flashed my first rom? Absolutely. Did it work flawlessly? Absolutely. Did I read, re-read, watch videos, re-read, read step by step as I was doing it, then read again when I was done to make sure I didn't skip a step...YOU BET YOUR BIPPY I DID.
The reason that I get blunt when I see these questions is because this tablet has been available for almost a year. There is more information available for this device on several forums that there should be no reason to ask questions that have been answered at least 50 times.
If you seriously need a "service" to flash a rom for you, then you REALLY should have bought an iPad, and have been stuck with whatever Apple provides.
FORUM RULES:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
I'm the moderator of russian forum about ASUS Prime.
See: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=308957
Unfortunately I have not yet 10 posts.
So I ask here, and not in the development section.
Many people have a problem after replacing the touchpad as follows:
After buying a Chinese touchscreen for Asus Prime TF201 and installing it - they received the "inverse" reaction to touching:
if press on the left side of the screen - displayed click on the right side, and vice versa.
More information can be seen on the videos:
http://youtu.be/XUN_0q5I4ng and http://youtu.be/diIBdD5yMSI
Obviously, there are different revisions of tablet.
Has anybody any Idee how to fix it?
Can this be fixed by software or need a soldering-iron?
Apparently this is not fixable, since when Asus replaced screens, some users had their motherboards replaced too, so it's probably because the screens are of a batch that have the inverted axis problem and Asus replaced the motherboards to undo the invert.
I honestly have no idea, but just so you know this definitely shouldn't have gone in the Dev section like you wanted it to. If you have a ROM or kernel to post, put that in the Dev section. If you have anything other than those two things, it goes in one of the other sections accordingly. Under no circumstances should a question be in the Dev section. Questions in the Q&A section, general discussions about the tablet in the General section, etc.
Just trying to save you from getting yelled at in the future
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I have the same question, or rather a problem with the "inverted-screen." Tell me where I can buy a normal version of the touchscreen? thanks
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I honestly have no idea, but just so you know this definitely shouldn't have gone in the Dev section like you wanted it to. If you have a ROM or kernel to post, put that in the Dev section. If you have anything other than those two things, it goes in one of the other sections accordingly. Under no circumstances should a question be in the Dev section. Questions in the Q&A section, general discussions about the tablet in the General section, etc.
Just trying to save you from getting yelled at in the future
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I would have thought the dev section also.
They're sourcing a non-original part that nearly works just that the touch screen data is backwards.
It would almost be trivial to rectify this if the drivers source was available.
In actual fact if you knew as much as a dev would know about the OS you could write an app that could do it without touching the drivers
my 2 cents
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I would have thought the dev section also.
They're sourcing a non-original part that nearly works just that the touch screen data is backwards.
It would almost be trivial to rectify this if the drivers source was available.
In actual fact if you knew as much as a dev would know about the OS you could write an app that could do it without touching the drivers
my 2 cents
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It's not as easy as you think. I've played around with the screen properties on some chinese tablets. Since it's an area the dev rarely messes with, I don't know how much they could do. Especially without a source for the driver. Anyone have the schematic for the touchscreen PIN out? It might be easier swapping wires around then screwing with the software.
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It's not as easy as you think. I've played around with the screen properties on some chinese tablets. Since it's an area the dev rarely messes with, I don't know how much they could do. Especially without a source for the driver. Anyone have the schematic for the touchscreen PIN out? It might be easier swapping wires around then screwing with the software.
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Actually the drivers source is freely available as it is in the kernel.
you could probably fix it in kernel, but this would mean being forever stuck running a custom kernel.
There is another thread in this section also discussing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837997 See if post 29 helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31850738&postcount=29
Hi all, so it seems our device isnt getting much support or anything so I've decided to take the plunge try to learn something about porting and see if i can port something to our device... for me its not such a risk as the phone was basically a gift so if it gets bricked ill be sad but not end of the world sad...
so first off i have a few questions
1 the code name all the phones seem to have dev codenames... and of course i notices in the jmz kernal we are downloading the a3ul kernal. so is this the actual name for our phone.. i ask because there are some stock roms and i thought i could maybe make these the base to start from...
2 can you give me some ideas of comparable phones i checked the htc mini one and two while close they both have different cams so i would like suggestions as to other devices so i can try downloading roms and taking them apart to see what i can find out...
3 to any devs, could you recommend some good sites to give me basics in either A)-porting a rom for us, B)-compiling a rom from some source or lastly and really hope leastly the idea of developing something myself somehow...
thanks
Im no developer, but I have recently been looking into this myself and the XDA University seems to hold some fairly thorough guides, I have just not had the time to start anything yet
W1LD3G30RG3 said:
Im no developer, but I have recently been looking into this myself and the XDA University seems to hold some fairly thorough guides, I have just not had the time to start anything yet
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preaching to the choir bud... i got 2 kids i teach full time and one more baby on the way time is one thing in limited supply.. but i really love this little device so it would be a shame if it went un-developed...
Hello, I was wondering why is there no newb section on this website? surely it would help all the new comers like myself who have no idea what they're doing.
I recently rooted my device for the purpose of changing some Personal Hotspot settings so I decided to look at the other benefits I could get from rooting and one of them is Themes. My question is why is it so hard to theme your device? I thought alot of these theming apps were one click proceedurs however it is not at all the case, speaking of complications when I rooted my device I accidently deleted touchwiz home and ended up stuck on Easy Mode for a whole day even after fully wiping/resetting until I figured out the problem. I still have standard mode showing as easy mode on my device but its actually got a launcher for now so it's all good.
Anyway It would of been good to have noob/newb section on this website so I could get to grips with everything there is to know or most things anyway. Right now I don't really know where to look on this website as there are too many threads that contain complicated titles with terms I never even heard of before so let alone reading the whole threads where I just hear myself reading on and on with no understanding what so ever.
Am going to stop my little rant here, if anyone can direct me on how to setup some easy themes it would be appreciated.
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Hello, I was wondering why is there no newb section on this website? surely it would help all the new comers like myself who have no idea what they're doing.
I recently rooted my device for the purpose of changing some Personal Hotspot settings so I decided to look at the other benefits I could get from rooting and one of them is Themes. My question is why is it so hard to theme your device? I thought alot of these theming apps were one click proceedurs however it is not at all the case, speaking of complications when I rooted my device I accidently deleted touchwiz home and ended up stuck on Easy Mode for a whole day even after fully wiping/resetting until I figured out the problem. I still have standard mode showing as easy mode on my device but its actually got a launcher for now so it's all good.
Anyway It would of been good to have noob/newb section on this website so I could get to grips with everything there is to know or most things anyway. Right now I don't really know where to look on this website as there are too many threads that contain complicated titles with terms I never even heard of before so let alone reading the whole threads where I just hear myself reading on and on with no understanding what so ever.
Am going to stop my little rant here, if anyone can direct me on how to setup some easy themes it would be appreciated.
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Greetings an welcome to xda. We did have a forum called xda assist where all newbies could basically ask any question, it became unsustainable due to the fact it became a free tech help line for every device.
Most phone's have their own dedicated Q&A thread where you can ask anything. If you can tell me the device you have I maybe able to help you or point you in the right direction at least
Regards
Sawdoctor