The notes camera is by far the best I've had on a phone. There are plenty of camera apps out there that supposedly improves the camera. I'm no camera expert so I need input from someone who is. Do any of these apps really improve the camera or just add effects?
The ones I've heard are the best are camera 360 and vignette. Anyway, input will be appreciated
Thanks guys
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For me there all the same some add more effects. Stock cam looks great just need right lighting and a clean camera lens.
You can ask in the note forums. They would know what works best for that phone. Us 3D peons know nothing
Well i still use my evo3d quite a lot for taking pictures which is why I asked here
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Well i still use my evo3d quite a lot for taking pictures which is why I asked here
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The phone takes great photos.
i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
Yep, unless your replacing the the actual hardware its just different effects...
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
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i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
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Well put. I tend to like my photos natural tho with no editing you get to see the true natural and the beauty it has. Rather then a shot that has been edited and no longer looks real. Everything in life has some flaws just like diamonds.
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Well put. I tend to like my photos natural tho with no editing you get to see the true natural and the beauty it has. Rather then a shot that has been edited and no longer looks real. Everything in life has some flaws just like diamonds.
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this is true, its all about re-creating what you see with the naked eye. however, it is all dependant upon the photographer as well, and their taste. i take a little bit more of an artistic kind of approach to it... so, i think of it kind of like art. the picture being the canvas, and the post-editing like the paint i guess.
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i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
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Thank you, great info
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I will say that I like Camera 360. It's not optimized for our screen, but it takes nice photos. Images with my stock app were dark and unfocused, shooting the same thing a few seconds later with 360 they were brighter and clear. Give it a shot. <---pun
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hi guys. im just curious how the video and pictures on the evo3d look compared to other 5 or 8mp cameras. are they sharp ect. how would the evo3d compare to say the iphone 4?
im in the market for a good camera phone
I personally feel the evo3d only takes great pictures sometimes - meaning it is hard to get good pictures.
The pictures tend to look better on the phone than when you look at them on a computer, where they tend to look more grainy when not in the brightest light. This feels like a step down from HTC's other offerings, which can look as good if not better than iphone pictures when pulled to your computer. I have gotten some fantastic pictures, but for the most part the camera has left me a bit wanting.
Playing around with 3d pictures is quite fun, and video recording is very good - particularly the audio, which was lacking in the evo4g.
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hi guys. im just curious how the video and pictures on the evo3d look compared to other 5 or 8mp cameras. are they sharp ect. how would the evo3d compare to say the iphone 4?
im in the market for a good camera phone
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It takes a much better picture than the Evo4G did. Much sharper looking, even with 3mp less.
However in low light it still gets grainy...the sensor can't help that, but the software can...but it doesn't. It does, however, take fantastic macro shots for a cell phone...surprisingly.
The 5mp cam on the NS4G I had for a few weeks was phenomenal. When I came back to the E3D it really made taking pictures with it seem pointless...and that's not even taking into consideration the .5-1.5 second shutter lag from when you push the button.
For a freakin' cell phone? It's fantastic. I've never used an iphone4 camera but I've only heard good things. But after seeing what a Samsung 5.0mp sensor/lens/software combo can do I am completely down on the E3D's camera. Granted it does 3D and it is a rather compelling effect...though the problems with the 5.0mp single-cam shots get even more pronounced in 3D at 2.5mp.
YMMV, etc etc etc. It is a cellphone after all.
EDIT: Also any shots with motion are pretty much ruined before you take them.
I agree with nhutpham, post number 2. The camera is not nearly what it should be. This phone revolved around its camera's, I mean come on its not called "Shooter" for nothing. 3D pics turn out good, still shots do anyway. But standard pics, thats a whole other ball game. Low light produces bad pics, even with the flash. Some pics will get a greenish tint to them (whites) when using flash. Rather then use all the "auto" settings I find setting things manually will result in better 2D pics. The device was not purchased by me for the camera though. I bought for the dual core processors Though now that I have my dual core I am wishing HTC would have stepped it up on the 2D camera
i think at stock the pictures look ok. but when you adjust iso,sharpness,exposure,contrast in the settings it makes them look much more vibrant and sharp.
i took a compartive shot of small rocks and the evo3d looked crisper and better overall compared to the iphone 4. so the camera cant be all that bad
Maybe this might help. I'm actually surprised at some of the pictures on here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243765
Being a photographer myself, I am impressed with the camera... but not all of the time. It takes phenomenal pictures outside in a good sunny day and even in overcast. Take the camera inside in average lighting of just about anyone's living room when the sunlight isn't dominating the light, then I'd be reluctant to show it of.
The poorer the lighting, the harder it is to focus and the photos can get very grainy. HTC also chose to compress the photos quite a bit which affects the picture quality, but makes it easier on the phone and network to share and upload. This goes back to a previous comment that they look better on the phone than on a larger display - its the compression.
If you're willing to root and mod this phone, there is a camera mod in the CDMA dev forum for this phone with camera improvements which makes me that much more impressed with the camera. Although, I think all that was changed was the compression for photos and video.
If you are taking a still picture under good light they look really good. If you have kids and are planning to take any pictures of them forget it.
Let's just they are playing baseball and you want to take a picture of them at bat. They get up there and you click the shoot button. The picture is then shown to you for review and you say wait, who the heck is that. Well while you thought you were snapping a picture of your child, by the time the camera actually took the picture your child got a double, the kid after him grounded to third, and in your picture is the batter who was batting 2 guys after him.....Great picture of someone elses child and of course that kid moved so the picture is blurry as well.
Okay, maybe I am exaggerating a little. You would probably get the batter right after him and not 2 guys down in the lineup, but it would still be blurry unless he batted like a statue....
Green, but otherwise good
Ya unfortunately the shutter lag makes the phone worthless in taking non still images.
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I've been struggling with the SK17 picture quality. I've been very underwhelmed, the nr is very heavy handed and in general even under the best light conditions produces low quality pictures.
Then it dawned on me, there must be a picture fineness setting. Meaning, how much detail do you want the camera to capture. I had this thought after reviewing a number of pictures. None of them are greater than 1MB in size. A high quality jpg image will be up to 1.5MB in size.
Maybe Sony could add a fineness setting for the jpg capture?
A few other things I've found just by obervation.
Lowest ISO looks to be 64
Highest ISO 800
fastest shutter 1/1250
Note, not the easiest thing to get these values, as EV and sports mode need to be engaged.
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this is the worst ever camera phone i ever had. videos are lacking in detail. we don't know if it will be rectified in the coming 2.3.4 update?
Yeah, not the best camera for non-bright conditions.
I installed an original gingerbread camera for some other Xperia device with the same sensor but modded to work for Mini Pro. And took some shots for comparison with the highest quality settings (Super Fine) on the original one. File sizes were about 30% larger but with no very little to no differences so i stuck with the Sony's one.
They're coming up with some camera tweaks for new update so maybe they'll manage to improve this aspect although i doubt it.
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Yeah, not the best camera for non-bright conditions.
I installed an original gingerbread camera for some other Xperia device with the same sensor but modded to work for Mini Pro. And took some shots for comparison with the highest quality settings (Super Fine) on the original one. File sizes were about 30% larger but with no very little to no differences so i stuck with the Sony's one.
They're coming up with some camera tweaks for new update so maybe they'll manage to improve this aspect although i doubt it.
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I hope they can come up with some improvements. Hopefully software can get better quality. The picture quality is even poor with very good lighting.
Something to note, the lens is rather small, I compared it to the C905a Exif data. the C905a is outfitted with a 6mm lens, the one in the Minipro is 4mm. That's a 33% difference in size!
I don't know the size of the W580i lens, it didn't come out in the EXIF data.
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Maybe im not a demanding camera user but daylight photos look good enough for me, although they probably can be improved via software.
Only thing that i'd like to see improved is low light photos but i dont think software can help much there. Its much more dependant on sensor size.
We'll see.
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Maybe im not a demanding camera user but daylight photos look good enough for me, although they probably can be improved via software.
Only thing that i'd like to see improved is low light photos but i dont think software can help much there. Its much more dependant on sensor size.
We'll see.
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You're right, at the end of the day it's the sensor size/quality.
I'm assuming the camera is doing a lot of internal processing. NR as well as compression. Hopefully, they can do something about reducing both.
As you say, if the sensor isn't up to the task, it won't matter.
Mike
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You're right, at the end of the day it's the sensor size/quality.
I'm assuming the camera is doing a lot of internal processing. NR as well as compression. Hopefully, they can do something about reducing both.
As you say, if the sensor isn't up to the task, it won't matter.
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Its a crap cam.
Arc got a way better cam, but its a cost/marketing issue... see? They want to niche ray,mini,neo,arc,play
And this shows on the pricetag/targeting ads..
Basic marketing.
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Its a crap cam.
Arc got a way better cam, but its a cost/marketing issue... see? They want to niche ray,mini,neo,arc,play
And this shows on the pricetag/targeting ads..
Basic marketing.
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Well its the smallest and cheapest of them all so corners had to be cut somewhere.
Theres also the segmentation of products that you mentioned but every single manufacturer does it.
We all wish it was a bit better but its not 'crap'. And daylight pictures are decent.
Edit: Check out this comparison. Load up mini pro and arc and you'll see that Arc isnt actually that much better even though its 8mpix and device itself is highend-ish. Also load up Galaxy Ace which has 5mpix, it blows mini pro and arc out of the water. Same goes for xperia neo. 2011 Xperia phones have had sup bar cameras it seems. They all have the same imperfections, not much differences between them. http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=3713&idPhone2=3724&idPhone3=3619
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Well its the smallest and cheapest of them all so corners had to be cut somewhere.
Theres also the segmentation of products that you mentioned but every single manufacturer does it.
We all wish it was a bit better but its not 'crap'. And daylight pictures are decent.
Edit: Check out this comparison. Load up mini pro and arc and you'll see that Arc isnt actually that much better even though its 8mpix and device itself is highend-ish. Also load up Galaxy Ace which has 5mpix, it blows mini pro and arc out of the water. Same goes for xperia neo. 2011 Xperia phones have had sup bar cameras it seems. They all have the same imperfections, not much differences between them. http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=3713&idPhone2=3724&idPhone3=3619
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Nice find! Looks like there are 2 main issues that make me unhappy with the PQ.
1: Is the noise reduction pattern, it looks to have a blotch pattern to me. It's not a pleasant constant grain like the iPhone 4.
2: Dynamic range looks pretty poor.
I think both of these could be due to the NR and compression algo. It would be nice if Sony would provide something better, or if it could be fixed via software.
It's a shame the test chart didn't provide better real world fine detail examples. I like to look at hair for this type of test and apparently that sample photo of the girls isn't helpful since the DSLR cameras didn't show good detail in that area.
However, it does give a feel for just how good of a job the camera can do.
Mike
panamamike said:
Nice find! Looks like there are 2 main issues that make me unhappy with the PQ.
1: Is the noise reduction pattern, it looks to have a blotch pattern to me. It's not a pleasant constant grain like the iPhone 4.
2: Dynamic range looks pretty poor.
I think both of these could be due to the NR and compression algo. It would be nice if Sony would provide something better, or if it could be fixed via software.
It's a shame the test chart didn't provide better real world fine detail examples. I like to look at hair for this type of test and apparently that sample photo of the girls isn't helpful since the DSLR cameras didn't show good detail in that area.
However, it does give a feel for just how good of a job the camera can do.
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Its a midrange/entry level phone ffs. Dont compare it with iphone4.
Its not on the same planet.
And a compression algo is indeed controlled via software. Same with nr. Stuff that SE finetunes with firmware updates.
Now, enjoy what you get for the money or buy the Arc S.
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Its a midrange/entry level phone ffs. Dont compare it with iphone4.
Its not on the same planet.
And a compression algo is indeed controlled via software. Same with nr. Stuff that SE finetunes with firmware updates.
Now, enjoy what you get for the money or buy the Arc S.
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Well, the iphone4 comparison isn't appropriate, but I started the thread because I was surprise that my old SE W580i produced better photos, take resolution into account. It also has a setting for normal vs. fine level detail, I was surprised to find the Mini Pro doesn't have that option.
I think the mini pro has room for improvement...
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Well i had a couple of androids. Non wich where perfect.
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Well i had a couple of androids. Non wich where perfect.
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I agree, all phones have their short comings, I just don't like it when a phone is gimped, meaning the hardware is able, but the software lack of features or bugs get in the way...
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Yeah, not the best camera for non-bright conditions.
I installed an original gingerbread camera for some other Xperia device with the same sensor but modded to work for Mini Pro. And took some shots for comparison with the highest quality settings (Super Fine) on the original one. File sizes were about 30% larger but with no very little to no differences so i stuck with the Sony's one.
They're coming up with some camera tweaks for new update so maybe they'll manage to improve this aspect although i doubt it.
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I tried some of the 3rd party cameras, 360 camera and lgcamera. Similar results, not noticeable PQ improvement and much larger files 3x in some cases.
Yet I'm not convinced these programs have full control of the camera. Wondering how the sensor RAW image is processed by the camera to produce a jpeg ect...
BTW, how did you determine which sensor is in the camera?
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I find the quality to be very good. It's a digital camera afterall, dont expect magic on a 200€ device.
If u guys take still pic's in daylight , then HDR cam+ takes some awesome shots
here's a sample u can judge.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/20111014131928.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/20111014125355.jpg/
when i takce a picture with my camera on xperia mini pro, as a result the photos are really small when i see them on my pc, how can I change the size of the picture??
Try to use lgcamera...more options, you´ll find it in the market
To be honest i have a pretty good experience with my Active's camera. I had it mounted on my ski boot, and inside the strap (which adds another layer of plastic, making it a bit more blurry). I must say i was impressed.
The camera settings on the S21 are really confusing to me. I admit I'm no photographer but I still want to take good detailed photos when I'm out and about. Reviewers mention the camera system is great but they don't really talk about what the optimum settings to use are for everyday use. Any thoughts on this?
I'm particularly looking at the various aspect ratio settings and I've no idea which one to use. A few photos I've taken in each ratio look exactly the same to me with some having thicker borders.
As far as I am aware, 3:4 is the optimal one, the others are cropped in photos of this one. I sometimes use the 64mp for pictures I want more detail in, and if its a moving object I like using motion photo.
This is probably going to be am unpopular opinion but does anyone else think that the Pixel 6 camera sucks? Pics straight out of device are a) over sharpened and b) flat. The canned filters are poor too. Enhance does nearly nothing, dynamic is a circuis like sharpening and contrast+saturation, and the rest are such ugly color casts which makes them useless. None of the filters have a "strength" slider to control the magnitude of the effect. Yet the sky filters that have the exact same names and function all have strength sliders. WTF Google?
I was hoping that Google has taken SnapSeed and incorporated it into the default camera in some dumbed down format so as not to confuse the general user. Wishful thinking. Not only that, I can't seem to find a way to tweak the default settings to my liking.
On an ongoing trip the images from my wife's 18 month old Fruit 12 max wiped the floor with the Pixel 6. This is from man Apple hater who will never own a fruit themed device.
To summarize my experience with the Pixel 6 so far; ****ty fingerprint reader, ****ty camera. Alas I dislike Samsung products almost as much as the fruity ones. If OnePlus had not decided to take heavy handed approach to Oxygen OS 12 I would be rocking a OnePlus 9 instead and be content.
I've noticed the over sharpened on some pics and just a general overall look I didn't like right away with the pixel 6. This last week I have done a bunch of night sight pics in the same location I did last year with my pixel 2 and the pixel 6 absolutely looks better in every way. I'm sure the improved night sight is the updated hardware but google needs to work on their eye candy AI for the new sensors in other situations.
Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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This is probably going to be am unpopular opinion but does anyone else think that the Pixel 6 camera sucks? Pics straight out of device are a) over sharpened and b) flat. The canned filters are poor too. Enhance does nearly nothing, dynamic is a circuis like sharpening and contrast+saturation, and the rest are such ugly color casts which makes them useless. None of the filters have a "strength" slider to control the magnitude of the effect. Yet the sky filters that have the exact same names and function all have strength sliders. WTF Google?
I was hoping that Google has taken SnapSeed and incorporated it into the default camera in some dumbed down format so as not to confuse the general user. Wishful thinking. Not only that, I can't seem to find a way to tweak the default settings to my liking.
On an ongoing trip the images from my wife's 18 month old Fruit 12 max wiped the floor with the Pixel 6. This is from man Apple hater who will never own a fruit themed device.
To summarize my experience with the Pixel 6 so far; ****ty fingerprint reader, ****ty camera. Alas I dislike Samsung products almost as much as the fruity ones. If OnePlus had not decided to take heavy handed approach to Oxygen OS 12 I would be rocking a OnePlus 9 instead and be content.
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Sent the Pixel 6 back and get a refund.
It is the simplest solution.
Not really, since real alternatives are scarce..
I really enjoy the camera. It's been taking phenomenal pictures for me. They will update the camera more as well and with Google's history I see it being very good.
I just got this phone yesterday, made Few photos and I am coming from a Galaxy note 20 ultra... I have to say I am impressed with the camera but for sure it does not live up to the hype on the internet. My Galaxy note 20 ultra makes as good if not better photos and to top all that I was comparing my photos last night with a friend's Huawei 40 pro ... And his photos were as good and in some cases better (some mine were better but less so) 5han the Google pixel 6... Just say both those phones are over a year old.
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Did you ever try Photoshop Express fpr RAW processing?
Yes i tried but the engine is the same between lightroom and photoshop express hence results are same. PS has better retouch capabilities if you need these.
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Yes i tried but the engine is the same between lightroom and photoshop express
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Tbats what I was hoping
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Thanks for saying this. So I didn't have to.
I find the camera pretty crappy if I'm honest. Detail in all of my pictures, including in well lit areas, are mediocre at best.
Night mode is absolutely useless too. If I compare it to my old Huawei Mate 20 Pro night mode pictures, there is no comparison.
Thinking of getting rid of the Pixel and getting something with an actual decent camera.
Pixel shots have a very specific look. It's not always realistic but it's beautiful. Live HDR and zero shutter lag are so nice.
If you're coming from a OnePlus phone, it can be a literal night and day difference in quality.
Is it possible that it is the selfie images that is breaking the camera?
What hype was there with this camera? Sure it has a new sensor that was talked about quite a bit, but everyone was saying that they picture quality was NOT different than the older Pixel models.
It is different but you need to try raw shooting to see the differences. Google's jpeg processing is far too aggressive regarding noise reduction so the small details are lost and stock jpegs look similar to older pixels. I will take some pictures these days to show the difference between stock jpeg and one converted from raw.
Here are links to stock jpeg from phone and one generated from raw file via adobe lightroom:
JPEG from raw:
jpeg from raw.jpg
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Stock jpeg:
stock jpeg.jpg
drive.google.com
For me the raw file generated by the pixel 6 (especially with night mode) is very good. It has a lot of detail and low amount of noise. In this case i have not applied any post processing except the auto button in adobe lightroom mobile hence no noise reduction and sharpening at all. If you prefer sharper and cleaner picture this raw file can handle both without any problem. Comparing the two pictures main problems with google's stock jpeg looks to be following:
1. Too much sharpening
2. Too aggressive HDR bringing up some nasty noise from the shadows
3. Too aggressive noise reduction. IT is not only very aggressive removing some fine details but it is also applied in different levels in different zones causing patches which are more smeared than the rest of the picture. For me this looks very ugly.
As i doubt that google will give us and settings to adjust jpeg processing my advice to everybody looking to get the most from the camera is to shoot raw with night mode on even in daylight and process the raw file the way they like it. It is always good to also have the raw file as backup because software constantly improves and in future you may get even better results from the old raw files.
I don't like the main camera for close subjects, the depth of field drop off is too shallow for my liking and the focus area is small causing soft edges due to the large sensor.
People who take pictures of food a lot might have a love hate relationship.
It is also annoying to scan qr codes due to the soft edges.
And what about that main camera for video calling on duo or whatsapp? Is it crappy only for me or are you guys experiencing the same?
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Try shooting raw and with night mode (even for daylight) then download adobe lightroom mobile (free version is enough), open the raw file in it, click the auto button and export the picture. Then compare to stock jpeg. You will be amazed. The hardware and image stacking on this phone are top notch. This is the first phone i have seen that has actually usable raw files. The stock jpeg on the other side is something i also don't like due to overprocessing.
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Wow, you have just made my day
Down on the Riverwalk South of Chicago River this morning taking some photos, check out the weird processing on the river!
Isn't Samsung AI wonderful? Try turning off Scene Optimizer.
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Actually, weird thing, my son was talking photos at the same time and has the same effect on a couple of his photos - he has an iPhone X - so maybe there was some kind of weird reflection going on
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Actually, weird thing, my son was talking photos at the same time and has the same effect on a couple of his photos - he has an iPhone X - so maybe there was some kind of weird reflection going on
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This phones are not like a mirrorless because they use AI, a good test could be as the user suggested before, turning off scene optimizer and take again the picture to see if the issue appear again.
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This phones are not like a mirrorless because they use AI, a good test could be as the user suggested before, turning off scene optimizer and take again the picture to see if the issue appear again.
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As I say, my son has the same weird reflections on photos taken on his iPhone so it's not the Samsung scene optimiser.
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As I say, my son has the same weird reflections on photos taken on his iPhone so it's not the Samsung scene optimiser.
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Lol, Samsung seems to be emulating iPhone and vice versa. So don't think iPhone isn't aggressively mucking with the cam images too during processing.
This is some sort of digital processing induced anomaly rather than something like birefringence I think. Shoot in raw mode to see how deep the trouble goes.
Turn off HDR.
Or maybe it is an optical phenomenon...
also try varying the shutter speed.
Scamsung needs to smarten up quickly, HDR is something from the horror movies.
I was taking a picture of a document today (AFTER the supposed camera update) and HDR transformed the white paper into a grey dull mush...
Harsh sharpening at times, overexposed day pics...I was hoping for all that to change with the new software, but FFS, what DID they change? Focus priority? Super steady video?
How about PICTURE QUALITY???
It looks like the moire effect to me.
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Not_Rich said:
It looks like the moire effect to me.
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There are no interference lines to cause that in this case.
edit, lol apparently there is a huge source for the lines lurking in the background! As per a more recent OP post.
Interestingly I had the same effect happen on an indoor photo after resizing a picture in Microsoft Photo.
Just use GCam and you'll have less headache. As any other OEM, stock camera is garbage.
This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
I haven't had that specific type of result but I do get outputs that look more like paintings than photos. The 200mp results are great and usually with the details you would expect from such a large image, but I have been sorely disappointed with the outputs from all other modes (including the RAW supposedly-50mp stuff, where scene optimiser can't be used anyway) - any degree of telephoto use just gives way worse details than I would expect from a modern 10mp camera, with automatic processing (with optimisation off) just blurring swathes of pixels together to give a crude, painted look. Maybe I have been spoiled by my Canon R5's wonderful 45mp sensor!
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This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
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I think they are genuine reflections of the grid-pattern building in that particular size of wavelets - quite interesting in fact. Was that in the 200mp setting?
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Just use GCam and you'll have less headache. As any other OEM, stock camera is garbage.
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Apologies, but what is GCam?
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This was the next photo I took in the sequence, exhibiting some more of the weird effect in the water - maybe it is reflection??
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Interesting. Not_Rich may be correct, those maybe be a moire effect caused by the building's reflection on the water. Test without the reflection of the building on the water...
Deepgreen23 said:
I think they are genuine reflections of the grid-pattern building in that particular size of wavelets - quite interesting in fact. Was that in the 200mp setting?
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Just the standard 4:3 12mp
blackhawk said:
Interesting. Not_Rich may be correct, those maybe be a moire effect caused by the building's reflection on the water. Test without the reflection of the building on the water...
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Yeah, I took quite a few photos along the Riverwalk and they were the only two to exhibit this, same with my son's photos. Really weird, but strangely beautiful effect, almost like a mosaic.
Ipse_Tase said:
Scamsung needs to smarten up quickly, HDR is something from the horror movies.
I was taking a picture of a document today (AFTER the supposed camera update) and HDR transformed the white paper into a grey dull mush...
Harsh sharpening at times, overexposed day pics...I was hoping for all that to change with the new software, but FFS, what DID they change? Focus priority? Super steady video?
How about PICTURE QUALITY???
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There also a halo effect around objects when shooting in low light with HDR enabled. This going to be fixed in next months camera Update. So they are aware of HDR issues just didn't fix those in this months update.