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hi when i enter in "weptop" mode i cant set highter resolution, actually its 720 and my TV supports 1080p.
the other issue i have its my tv supports @120hz and the problem its some colors sometimes looks weird :S i cant set up to @120 hz the max its @60hz 720p
anyway to change this??? my tv its vizio
Thanks a lot.
1080p is quite a lot for a phone like this, so performance would be bad.
I haven't seen an answer to your question on this forum, however. sorry, cant type fast cause on injury otherwise i'd give a more detailed response
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hi when i enter in "weptop" mode i cant set highter resolution, actually its 720 and my TV supports 1080p.
the other issue i have its my tv supports @120hz and the problem its some colors sometimes looks weird :S i cant set up to @120 hz the max its @60hz 720p
anyway to change this??? my tv its vizio
Thanks a lot.
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Ok so as far as the 1080p thats too much for our phone to handle and it will not make it any more sharper... and for part 120hz, that's only the output not the input... Every thing out there form dvd's to vhs and xbox's and blu rays spits out a 60Hz signal and what your tv does is it doubles that 60hz and makes it a 120Hz signal which is what you then see... but most likely you dont even have it turned on... Check your settings that would be your best bet...
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Ok so as far as the 1080p thats too much for our phone to handle and it will not make it any more sharper... and for part 120hz, that's only the output not the input... Every thing out there form dvd's to vhs and xbox's and blu rays spits out a 60Hz signal and what your tv does is it doubles that 60hz and makes it a 120Hz signal which is what you then see... but most likely you dont even have it turned on... Check your settings that would be your best bet...
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the thing its i have a laptop and the output its 60hz so the video and some colors looks awfull and same happen with my atrix, my other tv its ok perhaps my 120hz the colors looks like "noise" or weird not all colors and some part of tv that sucks well i was looking 1080p to watch 1080 in youtube xD
zen kun said:
the thing its i have a laptop and the output its 60hz so the video and some colors looks awfull and same happen with my atrix, my other tv its ok perhaps my 120hz the colors looks like "noise" or weird not all colors and some part of tv that sucks well i was looking 1080p to watch 1080 in youtube xD
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I doubt the atrix could render and pipe it over hdmi at that speed. Can't you just use the laptop? I don't notice much between 720 and 1080 videos except for horrendous load times.
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Hi there!
So thats kind of a problem. If you plug in your Atrix to an DVI computer-screen, as mine has got 24" 1920x1200 pixel, you cant really get that native resolution?
About performance: as long as you dont watch 1080p youtube-files, it would be alright, I guess...
As the hardware (though the tegra 250 developer board does) is able to output 1080p, is a solution possible?
greez
(edit: I even consider using a kindof HDfury hdmi to vga converter for a beamer in full resolution...)
so now i need worry about 120hz =X
120 vs 60 hz would make no difference on color
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if you have the modded webtop, with sudo permissions and lxterminal or something similar, just write xrandr -s 1920x1080 in the terminal and you should get a 1080p res.
the frequency (120 hz vs 60 hz) has NO effect on the colors of your output. it's either an issue with the connector (HDMI cable) you're using, or the TV itself. my guess is something on your TV settings is off, if you're getting the same problem with both the Atrix and a separate laptop.
by the way, a 120Hz capable TV still runs 60Hz images at 60 Hz. There is no "doubling" going on, it's just capable of displaying images with refresh rates up to 120 Hz (higher is more refreshes per second).
i think, that Nvidia Tegra 2 Cant render out 1080p resolution, because this "advantage" will be in Tegra3 (as the part of its specifications).
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if you have the modded webtop, with sudo permissions and lxterminal or something similar, just write xrandr -s 1920x1080 in the terminal and you should get a 1080p res.
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We should? ot we will get? somebody tried?
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i think, that Nvidia Tegra 2 Cant render out 1080p resolution, because this "advantage" will be in Tegra3 (as the part of its specifications).
We should? ot we will get? somebody tried?
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Im using it at times on my parents TV which is 1080p, and everything is fine.
Here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Display Controllers 2 simultaneous
HDMI 1.3 1920x1080
LCD 1024x600 (Tegra 230)
1680x1050 (Tegra 250)
CRT 1280x1024 (Tegra 230)
1600x1200 (Tegra 250)
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Im using it at times on my parents TV which is 1080p, and everything is fine.
Here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
Display Controllers 2 simultaneous
HDMI 1.3 1920x1080
LCD 1024x600 (Tegra 230)
1680x1050 (Tegra 250)
CRT 1280x1024 (Tegra 230)
1600x1200 (Tegra 250)
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its weird not sure what its, and well i dont care atm 1080p but i cant turn off my vizio 120hz i test on my parents 60hz FHD and looks great, but in my tv some colors look like washed, well not always some parts of videos like "noise" not sure what else its, even when the hz are the refresh rate its the only different from my mom tv =X
I just bought an HDMI output cable for my X2 and I am unimpressed with the results. The resolution looks grainy and all the videos look bad. Am I missing something?
I have a 2011 LG Plasma 50" 720P TV.
Well, it starts with your TV not being the greatest resolution, and being a large size. What are you trying to watch? If you are streaming Netflix and things like that, they have been having issues with it streaming in HD. Are you running any ROMs? It also depends on the quality of the HDMI cable you are using. It does make a difference.
I have grainy issues when running some eclipse versions. When stock or on a certain eclipse version I get better video quality o er HDMI...also seems like if I lower the overscan quality seems better but that could just be in my head
I think the X2 HDMI Mirroring just upscales the phone's display without any sort of smoothing. So you get an effective resolution of 960x540 outputting at 1920x1080 with each pixel showing up 4x as big.
If any application actually supports video-out (maybe just the BLUR gallery), then it may output at a real higher resolution. But due to no standard on this sort of thing in Android, no application really supports video out and Motorola really did a crappy job with their mirroring service.
Does RealHDMI or Xternal Display do a better job of this?
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Does RealHDMI or Xternal Display do a better job of this?
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those are both for the original droid X, and would disable the internal display and output over hdmi. X2's built in mirroring is better than that.
It is supposed to output at full 720p.
Actually it's supposed to be full 1080p output. Mine works pretty well.
Tapatalkin' from my eclipsed DROIDX2
This is one of my pet pevs as well. The picture quality on the phone is always better than the picture quality on the tv. It doesn't matter if I am hooked up to a 720 tv or a 1080. Same poor quality. Not hd like the phone
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This is one of my pet pevs as well. The picture quality on the phone is always better than the picture quality on the tv. It doesn't matter if I am hooked up to a 720 tv or a 1080. Same poor quality. Not hd like the phone
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+1 it says its supposed to output to 1080 but with all the pixelation it looks like it just upscales to fit the tv.
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Our native res of 960x540 is actually an hd standard and should look pretty decent when scaled to 1080 as it is exactly half.
Mine also looks lo-res. I'm mirroring to a 21.5" monitor (1080p) and the image looks pixelated. Not using the best cable, but it shouldn't look like it just stretches to fit the screen.
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Had anyone else tried.lowering the overscan in phone settings>hdmi
I mentioned it earlier but can't tell if its just my.mind playing tricks on me.
also I've noticed it seems to look better if I put the tv screen setting to normal instead of widescreen or fit to screen.
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Our native res of 960x540 is actually an hd standard and should look pretty decent when scaled to 1080 as it is exactly half.
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Our phones resolution is half in each side so it is a quarter, hence "qHD".
The video signal the phone is sending is 1080p, but the phone is just scaling the internal display.
This is compared to the ipad2 (and maybe iPhone 4s) quick just mirrors the screen resolution without scaling in a 1080p signal giving big black borders. But apps can output true HD over the same connection, if they're programmed to.
anyone find out if there is a way to adjust the scaling form this device? did anyone make a rom that can do anything fo this problem?
how will the prime handle audio if i want to play a movie/tv show from the transformer on my tv?
i'm probably going to get this cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10253&cs_id=1025301&p_id=7327&seq=1&format=2
but how does it do the audio? i know that hdmi can handle video and audio so will a single hdmi cable output the video and the sound from the transformer when i plug it into the tv? i think when i used my laptop i had to get a cable with a 3.5mm jack to go into the headphone jack on the laptop and on the other end were rca jacks to go into the tv but my plasma doesn't have rca jacks. i think that's where i'm getting confused.
Yes that cable will output both audio and video to your tv simultaneously.
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And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res? Tf101 : only 1280x720: pretty worthless for hd movies or for using it as a desktop replacement connected to your 23" screen ...
Tegra3 can do it... but can the tf2 do it too?
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And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res? Tf101 : only 1280x720: pretty worthless for hd movies or for using it as a desktop replacement connected to your 23" screen ...
Tegra3 can do it... but can the tf2 do it too?
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If not the developers will do it! XD
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I have Xperia Neo with HDMI and the audio and video @ 720p couldn't be handled any better IMO
All I can say is more than likely 1080 will be released maybe as official update or as mentioned above devs will do it
HDMI support is an essential for any tablet in the current market
I am really considering this as my first tablet
1080p Video File Size
1080p hdmi out would be great. So we are talking 1280 x 1920 output, yes? I am getting old and I have a hard time seeing the difference between 720p and 1080p.
If I am worried about 1080p out, then I'd also be concerned with having 7.1 audio out also. Might as well experience the "full" movie experience.
What about file size this 1080p video is going to be? Even with the 64 GB Prime what's the biggest file size I can dump on the drive? Are sd cards used with Android not limited to 4GB (aka fat32 format)? Any word on ICS breaking this barrier?
I cannot see a 1080p movie being within the 4GB limit. It's a challenge to get a 720p movie within the current 4GB limit.
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And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res?
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You should not worry about this part. Yes it will.
The HDMI out video playback power is a task of the CPU/SoC, regardless of the actual display on the device. The Nvidia Tegra 3 SoC is well capable of playing smooth 1080p video.
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What about file size this 1080p video is going to be? Even with the 64 GB Prime what's the biggest file size I can dump on the drive? Are sd cards used with Android not limited to 4GB (aka fat32 format)? Any word on ICS breaking this barrier?
I cannot see a 1080p movie being within the 4GB limit. It's a challenge to get a 720p movie within the current 4GB limit.
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This is the most concerning part with using the TF as your portable media watcher/tv-hookup-thingie.
From what i've read and seen today i think the Transformer Prime's hdmi output still sends out 720p, so no 1080p.
This is a real bugger since i want to use this thing as desktop replacement (hooked up to 23" 1080p+ monitor). 720p is way to low (big letters, small working area , blurry fonts when zoomed out)
Tegra3 as said can handle more than 720p.
Question is is there any hardware limitation?
Like the HDMI out, could that limit to 720p?
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DarsVaeda said:
Tegra3 as said can handle more than 720p.
Question is is there any hardware limitation?
Like the HDMI out, could that limit to 720p?
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tegra3 can output resolutions way higher than 1080p... however, the TF2 device clones its own screen when connected to hdmi, which means you'll stay at 1280x800 or 1280x720 actually (minus lower bar)
But that could rather be software and by this changable if it really is the case.
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it's like this. One's hdmi is connected its clones what show on Primes screen and that would be 720p when you are on homescreen,browsing, apps, games.
But when you start a movie and are connected to a screen with hdmi it will output the resolution that the video file have, if the movie is 1080p it will be 1080p if your screen will handle that resolution. The picture is only showed on the connected screen and on Primes screen you only have to media controls like play/paus seek and so on.
A video that show what I tried to explain with my poor english. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=khfMc77SkwI#!
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it's like this. One's hdmi is connected its clones what show on Primes screen and that would be 720p when you are on homescreen,browsing, apps, games.
But when you start a movie and are connected to a screen with hdmi it will output the resolution that the video file have, if the movie is 1080p it will be 1080p if your screen will handle that resolution. The picture is only showed on the connected screen and on Primes screen you only have to media controls like play/paus seek and so on.
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Is this true? I didn't find anything about hdmi.
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
Per Anandtech, Prime supports ext NTFS volumes, and 4GB+ is allowed. This assumes you also buy the dock, since Prime has no USB.
"External NTFS volumes are supported and the sdcard file system supports files greater than 4GB in size, so I copied a 15GB 1080p Blu-ray rip of A Quantum of Solace from a USB stick to the Prime. I had to use DICE Player to get audio but otherwise the clip just worked."
Per TheVerge, reviewer reports HDMI output on 52" TV "felt like I was watching a Blu-ray movie." The implication is that it's 1080p output, although it wasn't explicitly stated.
Magnesus said:
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
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Would like a 1080p desktop too! I can imagine that this could be a problem due to not being able to use the touchscreen in that case (can't touch a black screen) but at least i would like to have the choice when i connect the device to hdmi (popup?)
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Is this true? I didn't find anything about hdmi.
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yes. and what didn't you find.
Magnesus said:
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
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The day when tablets gets 1080p screens and a OS that is setup for that you will get 1080p on the external screen even when you just use the homescreen,browser,App.
movies played on transformer when hdmi is connected will be shown on external screen in their native (correct word?) resolution.
480p will be 480
720p video will be 720p
1080p video will be 1080p
Homescreen and all other places in the UI will be clone to the big screen in 720p because primes screen is 1280*800
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Would like a 1080p desktop too! I can imagine that this could be a problem due to not being able to use the touchscreen in that case (can't touch a black screen) but at least i would like to have the choice when i connect the device to hdmi (popup?)
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would been a good option that you could choose to clone the screen in 1080p and when you plug in the hdmi primes screen turns off and prime start acting same way like a computer that out put the picture to a screen and u use a mouse/keyboard to navigate
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yes. and what didn't you find.
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I forgot a word. I mean i didn't find informations about hdmi playback. I never tried it with my Transformer.
People who use MHL to HDMI out- Does the note's screen fit your computer/tv screen perfectly? Mine has black bars on the sides and doesn't quite fit right on top and bottom.
Although- when it's playing any kind of video it seems to fit absolutely perfect? There must be a way to fix this.
Also, anybody figure out a good way to dim the screen nearly black while the tv/computer screen stays normal? All the apps i've tried also dim the computer screen.
Otherwise with my bluetooth keyboard and mouse i have no use for my laptop whatsoever anymore but it would be nice to get these minor gripes out. Thx XDA!
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution. Apps, games, and videos may all appear as different resolutions on your TV screen. Not much you can do here but change the settings on your TV.
I have looked extensively for some way to dim the Note's screen when using HDMI and have come up empty.
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution. Apps, games, and videos may all appear as different resolutions on your TV screen. Not much you can do here but change the settings on your TV.
I have looked extensively for some way to dim the Note's screen when using HDMI and have come up empty.
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The Note screen is not a standard resolution.
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Not to nitpick, but 1280x800 is completely standard, and quite possibly the most common notebook resolution on the planet.
The deal comes from trying to output to a 4:3 or 16:9 display while outputting 16:10 resolution. The fix, obviously, is to use a 16:10 display, but thats not really cost effective. Hence, black bars.
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Not to nitpick, but 1280x800 is completely standard, and quite possibly the most common notebook resolution on the planet.
The deal comes from trying to output to a 4:3 or 16:9 display while outputting 16:10 resolution. The fix, obviously, is to use a 16:10 display, but thats not really cost effective. Hence, black bars.
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1280x800 is not a standard resolution for any of my monitors, my laptop, my rear projection tv, nor my LED TV.
But it is a standard resolution.
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But it is a standard resolution.
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It certainly is a standard resolution. My 1080p monitor can use that resolution just fine although it's not native.
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Yes its a normal resolution, but the issue at hand is that is not a normal aspect ratio for a hdtv, hence the black bars.
That said, I haven't found solutions either...
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I just sold my transformer prime infinity...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
Well I was just looking around here and I don't have a Nexus 10. I got a Galaxy Note 10.1 and from my experience the picture matters a lot.
I mean there are a lot of wallpaper sites with ultra HD and optimized wallpapers for retina display, but the same resolution is not always the same sharpness. some are crappy cropped or zoomed.
Use quickpic to set your background picture. The stock gallery app sometimes crops the pictures false.
And pictures with a resolution below the maximum resolution will always look a bit crappy. that means that when you are using a fullHD picture, which was nice for transformer prime, it can look less sharp on a display with higher resolution like nexus 10
I too come from Prime and there is no contest, this screen is sharper than Prime by miles.
How stuff looks will depend on what you are seeing.
If you have set regular wallpaper, it will look all blurry thanks to resolution. Even so called HD wallpapers will look blurry on this. You need to go search for wallpapers for MacBook Pro retina and use those on this tablet using quickpic. None of the apps from Android market have good wallpapers that are having native resolution of this tablet.
Text is sharp and crisp on this.
Most arcade games are not optimised for this screen and look terrible or blurry. That is not screen's fault.
Desktop web pages look nice full and crisp. So only real issue of lack of sharpness comes into picture when the content is not ready for screen. That includes apps, images and games.
I also come from Prime.
I wouldn't say the Prime screen looks sharper than the Nexus 10. Reading text on the N10, for example, the resolution is really amazing, very nice on the Nexus 10.
The colors and brightness and blacks is a different story. The Prime had those 3 much nicer than the Nexus 10. I loved playing Marble Blast on the Prime, the graphics looked amazingly vivid. On the Nexus 10 they appear as meh.
Its the prime infinity. Drastic difference. What a shame. Gonna put the nex up 4sale.
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I just sold my transformer prime...and coming from that, im disappointed with the screen. How could a lower resolution screen on the prime look sharper than the one on the nexus?
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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It's mainly because a lot of apps and mobile sites and such aren't made for the resolution. It's made for a smaller resolution, so to make up for that, the apps, mobile sites, and whatever else are all upscaled to fit the 2560x1600 resolution. While upscaling allows you to view things bigger, it will also make everything else a slightly blurry. There are upscaling algorithms to make it look better, but basically it's impossible to make upscaled images look as good as a native 2560x1600 image.
A 720p 10" screen (Note 10.1) will show a 720p video the cleanest because the video outputs a ratio of exactly 1:1 pixels.
A 1080p 10" screen (TF prime) will show a 720p video a bit blurrier because the video outputs a ratio of 2.25:1 pixels.
A 1440p 10" screen (N10) will show a 720p video the blurriest because the video outputs a ratio of 4:1 pixels. (I know the N10 has a 1600p screen, it's just to make calculations slightly easier)
Now when using a 1080p video, a 720p screen will show no improvement because the screen can't output those extra pixels.
When using a 1080p screen, the screen will look sharper than that 720p screen because you have more information. Consider watching TV of a 10x10 resolution vs 1920x1080 resolution. The 1920x1080p resolution will look far better
Once again, the 1440p will look slightly blurry.
Now when you use a 1440p video, you can probably guess which screen will output that video the cleanest.
So basically, this high resolution thing is good mainly for texts as of right now since nothing is really optimized for a screen beyond 1080p.
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I actually have to disagree with you a little bit here. 720p video should look just as good on the Nexus 10 as it does on the Note 10.1. 1280x800 times 2 is 2560x1600. Because of that each pixel of a 720p video will take up exactly 4 pixels on the Nexus 10; however those 4 pixels on the N10 are the same area that would be a single pixel on the Note 10.1. This is a clean ratio. On the TF700 you got to 1920x1200 which is 1.5 times 1280x800. This is not a whole ratio and means that pixels of a 720p video will take up between 1 and 4 pixels on the TF700 display (determined by a fancy algorithm for scaling images).
The Nexus 10 playing 1080p video should have about the same blurriness as the TF700 playing 720p video.
Nitemare3219 said:
Anyone who thinks its possible for a much lower resolution screen to be sharper is a fool. This screen is absolutely dazzling. Though content displayed is obviously going to have an affect.
And just to shove some numbers in your face:
N10 - 300.24 PPI (2560x1600 @ 10.055") 4,096,000 pixels (78% MORE)
Prime Infinity - 226.42 PPI (1920x1200 @ 10") 2,304,000 pixels
That's a huge difference.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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Lol as a former owner of both (returned Prime C1 for 700 a C6 then returned that, and I started the thread in Prime forums for users who Asus lost our first mailed GPS dongles)- your fooling yourself or you got a N10 with a bad screen
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Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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The problem with this screen is calibration and black levels.
Colors are extremely washed, red is a poor red, same with blue. This totally kills the screen. If you compare this with ipad screen, you will cry. Not because of viewing angles, not because of brightness, because of colours. Google was really smart when they decided not to calibrate their screens, same with nexus 4, while other OEMs take care of this thing deeply.
And black, despite numbers of the reviews, its quite poor, mostly because every single unit has light bleed (some with a hard mess, others this problem is smaller)
As a result, a top screen with such a poor implementation. This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one, with many pixels, but nothing else. And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
Straf said:
And it's a ****ing software issue, thats so sad.
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light bleed is not a software issue
Techie2012 said:
light bleed is not a software issue
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Yep, meant the calibration thing, it's about software. Black thing is because a bad manufacturing process, probably because of low price tag., or crappy manufacturers.
blackhand1001 said:
You can most likely blame that on googles new font rendering in 4.2. They turned down the font hinting a lot. It would be nice if it was configureable like in Linux. It the same way on the galaxy nexus and nexus 7 in 4.2.
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Wow...that blows. Maybe we need a 4.1 ROM??
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
Yep, I completely agree with one of the previous posters, this is definetly a black level issue. I put the iPad with a Retina Display right against a Nexus 10 both playing the same 1080i MKV. The iPad clearly won.
I still like the Nexus 10 a lot and I find it very comfortable to use because of how thin it is and how light it is, but to improve the product I think Google missed it some here. They could lowered the resolution considerably (1920 x 1080 is more than fine), improved on black level, and used the same processor. The lower resolution would have allowed that processor to scream since it wouldn't have been as taxed to interpolate so many pixels.
I don't know if it is a software issue or not, but if it is I really hope Google releases a fix. If there was a way to adjust Gamma or Contrast it might help considerably.
suzook said:
Did you have a prime to compare it to? Sorry, but text IS crisper on the prime. I see it with my 20/20 eyes.
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There's no way on earth text (or other computer generated content like the UI and icons) will look better on a 147PPI display (Prime) vs. 224PPI (TF700) or 300PPI (N10). The reason is as 404 Error did a great job of explaining is that text is a 1:1 match pixel wise; the more pixels the sharper the image. Photos and videos display even the clearest content over multiple pixels so the advantage of a higher PPI becomes less pronounced. And the human eye (even yours) can't resolve sharpness over 229PPI beyond 15". So, your 20/20 eyes are decieving you. The N10 has less contrast and isn't as bright as older displays so that might be what you're reacting to.
Straf said:
This could be best screen in an tablet ever, and now it is a mediocre one,
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well lets hope this guy will change that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9H-TtObBY
tacitust said:
I saw light bleed as soon as I turned my N10, but that's not the reason I just called to return it -- it was the uneven brightness. The top 1/2 inch of the screen is noticeably darker than the rest of it -- not visible when watching a movie or playing games, but very distracting when surfing and reading books, especially in portrait mode.
Since I haven't seen anyone else complain about this issue, I'm hopeful the replacement will be better.
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Mine has this problem and so do at least a few others. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007676
I'm still debating if it annoys me enough to justify an exchange.