Hey guys I'm a noob here and am expecting my ATP to arrive any moment now.. I have been on the forum reading all of the positives and negatives about the ATP. (BTW I have 3 Children and I think i'm more nervous now then when they were born..) Can someone give me a quick guide on what I should do/look for when I first un-box the baby...
For example. Should I charge the ATP fully before performing the setup?
Check to see if there is a Serial Number?
Which root process would you advise me to use?
A) Root into HC then use Rootkeeper , then update to ICS
B) Update to ICS then root using viperboys method.
Thanks in advance...Virtual Cigars for everyone..
BKBUDDHA74 said:
Hey guys I'm a noob here and am expecting my ATP to arrive any moment now.. I have been on the forum reading all of the positives and negatives about the ATP. (BTW I have 3 Children and I think i'm more nervous now then when they were born..) Can someone give me a quick guide on what I should do/look for when I first un-box the baby...
For example. Should I charge the ATP fully before performing the setup?
Check to see if there is a Serial Number?
Which root process would you advise me to use
A) Root into HC then use Rootkeeper , then update to ICS
B) Update to ICS then root using viperboys method.
Thanks in advance...Virtual Cigars for everyone..
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have it charging. you can still use it plugged up. I would say update to ICS first. then you could use viper prime time to root. then if you want viperboy just released Viper control to allow for overclocking.
Before all that though check to make site you have serial number. if no rush or need to root immediately, then just sit back and enjoy the device as of is out the box after you upgrade to ICS. no need to rush things. Layback n da Maybach n enjoy your new toy. Rooting and overclocking will always be here.
I'd hate for you to get device. then rush all of this and next thing you know something gets messed up. Let the Prime experience set in first. Then begin the Modding.
So in other words your saying breathe. I Thank you for your advice there is so much information floating around that its hard to keep up.
Crap. I was writing this nice long reply and Demandarin jumped in and told you the same things, sort of LOL! He is right though. As I say reduce your risks while enjoying the tablet...Here's what I had said:
Why not wait until you are succesfuly updated to iCS to root It's not a problem to root beforehand, but you always lessen the chances of something going wrong by going stock where possible. A lott of folks got slammed with reboot loops when they updated to ICS, but I saw no connection to rooting that was obvious. I am just advising what I would do personally to reduce risk.
Also, first thing: Check that serial number. Not on the box, but if you've been reading you will know to look in settings, about tablet, status. If you have an "Unknown" (and there were a fair nuumber of these,though I am not trying to make you MORE nervous, LOL!) If THATS good, then start charging ASAP. If your OOTB experience is like mine, the unit will boot when you plug in to charge. Let it get upa ways before doing the IC Update (Requires 15%, but again, for less risk, I like a fully or mostly charged unit for these operations. You can play with it while charging so you won't be sitting on your hands, LOL.
Finally, plug the charger in "Upside down" (Asus Logo upside down) Not all are like this, but all 4 TF101's and the 2 Primes I have had, if you plug in with the charger facing up (and wide blade wall socket on left, the charger does not have polarity forcing plug) you will feel a slight charge, like a buzz running throughout all metal parts of the Prime. I an not sure WHY this exists for most people at least here in US, but Asus supposedly redesigned the charger twice to no effect. Also, I don't think it is necessarily harmful, all I know is I don't like it. We have some sensitive circuits, and flash ram in these, so a current running over the casing, no matter how small cannot be a good thing.
I think it's the AllSpark, LOL! Enjoy your new "baby" I hope he/she doesn't grow up to disappoint you.
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Crap. I was writing this nice long reply and Demandarin jumped in and told you the same things, sort of LOL! He is right though. As I say reduce your risks while enjoying the tablet...Here's what I had said:
Why not wait until you are succesfuly updated to iCS to root It's not a problem to root beforehand, but you always lessen the chances of something going wrong by going stock where possible. A lott of folks got slammed with reboot loops when they updated to ICS, but I saw no connection to rooting that was obvious. I am just advising what I would do personally to reduce risk.
Also, first thing: Check that serial number. Not on the box, but if you've been reading you will know to look in settings, about tablet, status. If you have an "Unknown" (and there were a fair nuumber of these,though I am not trying to make you MORE nervous, LOL!) If THATS good, then start charging ASAP. If your OOTB experience is like mine, the unit will boot when you plug in to charge. Let it get upa ways before doing the IC Update (Requires 15%, but again, for less risk, I like a fully or mostly charged unit for these operations. You can play with it while charging so you won't be sitting on your hands, LOL.
Finally, plug the charger in "Upside down" (Asus Logo upside down) Not all are like this, but all 4 TF101's and the 2 Primes I have had, if you plug in with the charger facing up (and wide blade wall socket on left, the charger does not have polarity forcing plug) you will feel a slight charge, like a buzz running throughout all metal parts of the Prime. I an not sure WHY this exists for most people at least here in US, but Asus supposedly redesigned the charger twice to no effect. Also, I don't think it is necessarily harmful, all I know is I don't like it. We have some sensitive circuits, and flash ram in these, so a current running over the casing, no matter how small cannot be a good thing.
I think it's the AllSpark, LOL! Enjoy your new "baby" I hope he/she doesn't grow up to disappoint you.
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Blame it on Thumb Keyboard..lmao I can type very fast with it
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Blame it on Thumb Keyboard..lmao I can type very fast with it
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Ya bastid!! Keep beating me to punch, and it's not the thumb keyboard,as I have the dock on here.. You just too quick fo me... hehe! That's cool I would rather see folks stumbling over each other trying to help than the ***** and moan sessions that we have had for most of the last 3 weeks!
No Prime yet...The anticipation is killing me. Its been "Out for Delivery" since 6:32Am. Is there any way to induce UPS?
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No Prime yet...The anticipation is killing me. Its been "Out for Delivery" since 6:32Am. Is there any way to induce UPS?
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Man, I know the feeling. I had the day off, intentionally. My UPS deliveries typically come between 12-1, and this was no exception. Heck, I was so excited I made my own unboxing video... (didn't post it, though. There PLENTY of those. Of course, don't get your hopes up on the GPS either. Not trying to rain on your parade, really. Easy fix is Bluetooth Tethering to a GPS receiver. Amazon has some used ones for $10-20 . Problem solved, if you want GPS for Copilot or anything.
ATP Baby Born 4:09pm eastern standard time..Had its first feeding (ICS) of course. A slight light bleed on right side not anything big, has serial number, updates are all on and its running well. Will update after I can finish the wellness check.
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No Prime yet...The anticipation is killing me. Its been "Out for Delivery" since 6:32Am. Is there any way to induce UPS?
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Same here usually my UPS comes between 2-3 but nooooo yesterday he came at 6:30 I was livid the whole day sitting upstairs staring out the window at the road around 3 for over a hr lol
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I plugged my eleven-day-old Galaxy S II up last night to the Samsung charger connected to the Samsung AC adapter that came with it. I then put it underneath the pillow beside me (not the pillow I sleep on; I do this so that I don't knock it off during the night) and went to bed. When I went to grab it this morning, the phone pretty much burnt my hand. I dropped it quickly and let it cool down for a moment. I had no success with turning it on and, when I got back from school, still had no luck. I ended up taking it back and exchanging it for another one.
It really doesn't bother me that much considering the volume up button on the other one stuck a little. And now I can't get CWM to flash on this one. It seems like nothing is going right for me today.
Woah!!
Definitely gotta be careful with that. These phones do need to breathe in a sense but glad it wasn't worse and you were able to return it. I bet you won't do that one again.
Yeah, definitely do not charge any electronic device while under a pillow because charging generates heat and there is no way for the heat to escape while it's under a pillow, so it builds up. As for flashing CWM, what happens when you use odin?
Sent from my SGS II.
The exact same thing happened to me w a NS4G, never again.
That happen to me but not to that extent, i did it all the time with other phones but I guess I should avoid doing that from now on.
It happened to me a couple of times with different phones. I think when I checked the temp it was like 127F lol
By far this phone is the hottest device i have. The thin profile of the phone can't really dissipate the heat that well. But anyway sorry to hear this about your phone. Good luck with fixing things.
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By far this phone is the hottest device i have. The thin profile of the phone can't really dissipate the heat that well. But anyway sorry to hear this about your phone. Good luck with fixing things.
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ever owned a sensation? it doubles as a griddle. lmao
I actually was able to flash CWM. For some reason it just wouldn't allow me to do it from ROM Manager. But all is good now.
**** man im glad your bed didn't catch fire. That would have ruined your morning.
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What does it say in BIG RED LETTERS AT THE VERY TOP OF THE FAQ?
Don't use Rom Manager on our phones.
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I plugged my eleven-day-old Galaxy S II up last night to the Samsung charger connected to the Samsung AC adapter that came with it. I then put it underneath the pillow beside me (not the pillow I sleep on; I do this so that I don't knock it off during the night) and went to bed. When I went to grab it this morning, the phone pretty much burnt my hand. I dropped it quickly and let it cool down for a moment. I had no success with turning it on and, when I got back from school, still had no luck. I ended up taking it back and exchanging it for another one.
It really doesn't bother me that much considering the volume up button on the other one stuck a little. And now I can't get CWM to flash on this one. It seems like nothing is going right for me today.
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Sounds like a faulty battery pack or charging hardware in the phone - for safety reasons, charging of Li-Ion batteries is suspended if the pack reaches 50C (122F) or less. It sounds like either your pack has a faulty temp sensor or your phone did not terminate charge when the temp rose too high. (I assume that Samsung has such termination circuitry onboard as they would never receive certifications otherwise). You are very lucky, as Li-Ion batteries have a propensity for exploding/catching on fire when overheated during charge.
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I think Im going to run an auto-script that looks for people saying they use Rom Manager (or try to use it because it sucks and never works right) and then give them an automatic infraction.
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What does it say in BIG RED LETTERS AT THE VERY TOP OF THE FAQ?
Don't use Rom Manager on our phones.
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Ah, I see now. It doesn't really matter, though. That wasn't the purpose of the thread to begin with.
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I think Im going to run an auto-script that looks for people saying they use Rom Manager (or try to use it because it sucks and never works right) and then give them an automatic infraction.
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Just weed out any cm7 threads though as it works perfectly. I understand your point though.
Also when we first got these phones and this issue came up i was able to get it to work with the samsung based roms and made a video to show how. Feel free to delete it if you want to. Dont want people to get confused...
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I left mine under the pillow one night - woke up the next morning and was wondering why "This thing is HOT!". It wasn't ruined but I never leave it under the pillow charging anymore. This is why they made night stands LOL.
Up until this morning I had considered myself one of the lucky prime owners that had no problems with their device. The My prime has not suffered any of the defects I have seen other users having issues with, no screen bleed, great wifi, only a little issue with gps, and I purchased the unit from the one extra stock that the gamestop in SF received on the day they're delivered. Very happy overall with my firs tablet.... Until this morning..
Last night with my battery hovering around 15% I plugged into to charge, and got the wonderful little sound letting me know that night the morning I would have another full charge to waste f'in about.. When I woke up at 4 my prime was at 71% and status said not charging..... Strange I thought, and maybe a fuse had blown? No.... Every outlet in my house produces the same result.... No power getting to the prime
It was charged through a protected outlet in my server cabinet, so I know the power was clean and surge free.... Has anyone out there experienced anything like this before? I am thinking now that I will have RMA the unit because the charge circuits somehow failed.. I have no provision test another power supply for charging purposes and do nothing I have even seen extras available yet.. When I get to work I will verify that I still have connectivity to my pc and see what happens.
Please I would like some constructive thoughts on this matter.... I do not want to start another thread that catalyzes everyoneone into a fit of prime bashing or or telling me why I should returnitand buy a new device.... I am lookingfor hopefully a resolution or similar experience that can help me out before I make the decision to RMA for a new unit .... Damn and I only had a few days left to waitfor ICS
If it helps I am on the latest update 33, and rooted with jcase and viperboys (thanks guys, awesome work) tool....
Sent from my Transformer Prime.... Which is sadly going away.....
put the charger in a ziplock bag, then in the freezer for 20 minutes.
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put the charger in a ziplock bag, then in the freezer for 20 minutes.
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... What purpose would this serve?
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... What purpose would this serve?
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Your charger is overheating. Did the same thing with mine, an hour in the freezer worked like a charm. Remember to put it in a bag though.
There is a temperature trip circuit in the charger, which evidently kills charging if the charger passes a temp threshold. This was apparently a very prevalent problem on the tf101, and has been known to carry over to the TF201 occasionally. I have not experienced it, but i have seen this 'fix' used successfully.
Definitely sounds worth a try then... I can try this fix when I get to work and report back... Is this something I should expect on a regular basis? I Can do it for a while until I can source a new charger, that I do not mind... At this point anything that keeps this thing in my hand and up and running is good news in my book. Thanks for the suggestion guys!
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Please keep us posted. One of the first things I noticed when I got my Prime was how damn hot the charger got when charging. You can literally burn yourself if you squeeze it.
The charger is a piece of ****. Instable, overheating, buzzing, the one on my TF died a long time ago.
If it doesn't work anymore, find yourself a new one (that provide 12v output and not the regular 5v) with a USB port, it cost something like 10$ and you won't risk to set your house on fire each time you charge your TFP.
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put the charger in a ziplock bag, then in the freezer for 20 minutes.
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Takes the cake of the oddiest workaround I have heard of. Can't wait to see if the OP confirms the fix.
Freezing a charger. Wow.
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Takes the cake of the oddiest workaround I have heard of. Can't wait to see if the OP confirms the fix.
Freezing a charger. Wow.
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Well its not that strange.....I used to do this with clicking Hard Drives after they over heat. This would allow you at least an hour to access your files to recover them. Its a long known data recovery secret. ;-)
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Takes the cake of the oddiest workaround I have heard of. Can't wait to see if the OP confirms the fix.
Freezing a charger. Wow.
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Not very odd. This trick been used to fix hard drives too.
Example: http://geeksaresexy.blogspot.com/2006/01/freeze-your-hard-drive-to-recover-data.html
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Please keep us posted. One of the first things I noticed when I got my Prime was how damn hot the charger got when charging. You can literally burn yourself if you squeeze it.
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The charger is a piece of ****. Instable, overheating, buzzing, the one on my TF died a long time ago.
If it doesn't work anymore, find yourself a new one (that provide 12v output and not the regular 5v) with a USB port, it cost something like 10$ and you won't risk to set your house on fire each time you charge your TFP.
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I noticed this as well... seemed a bit much for my like but as everything seemed to working ok I left it alone. I am at work now and chager has been in the feezer for approx 20 min... gonna leave it till the hour mark and I will update as to the progress of this very strange yet intresting adventure....
Alright... so my update on the problem.... Put the charger in the freezer for a good couple of hours to see if it could be reset... after letting come back to room temp, I plugged it in and nothing.... charger is blown. Had to go to office depot to get a new one, but the good news is that it was not the prime itself! Thanks for the ideas everyone!
Have anyone been able to charge their Prime from their PC like it says you can do in the manual.
I tried and the Prime didn't show any indication that it was being charged, in fact it still said to connect it to a charger.
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Have anyone been able to charge their Prime from their PC like it says you can do in the manual.
I tried and the Prime didn't show any indication that it was being charged, in fact it still said to connect it to a charger.
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you can but it has to be in sleeping or off even then it will charge so slow unless you have a usb 3.0 port like me
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Op,
I have been watching people complain about this, if you plan to throw the charger away could I get you to toss it into an envelope and send it to me, I want to do some research on it to see if I can figure out why it is burning out.
Does anyone have a link to a cheap, compatible charger? I guess the voltage can vary as long as it's not too low, but the current should match that of the original charger, from what I understand.
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Op,
I have been watching people complain about this, if you plan to throw the charger away could I get you to toss it into an envelope and send it to me, I want to do some research on it to see if I can figure out why it is burning out.
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Flyingwolf, being an engineer myself I was very curious about doing a little investigation of my own... But I only have a multimeter. I would hope this should be enough to get a general idea of what's going on. If you would like I would love collaborate with you on this and see if we can figure out what is going on. If I get to deep over my head (I am a mechanical engineer not electrical after all ) I would have no problem at all sending it along! Let me know and we can go from there. Was planning on cracking it open this weekend.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 through a rift in time and space....
Far from being an engineer myself, however my love of all things electronic and my hobby of RC has forced me to learn as much as I can, I have become rather proficient lol.
Me personally I would just being doing some simple probe tests, figuring out if there was an issue with manufacturing (cold solder joint, too tight wire that pulls with heat expansion etc).
I am sure as a mechanical engineer you should have no problem figuring it out.
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Does anyone have a link to a cheap, compatible charger? I guess the voltage can vary as long as it's not too low, but the current should match that of the original charger, from what I understand.
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I paid 30 at office Depot for an OEM unit... I would recommend you always use the stock system to charge as it may have integrated circuitry to actually talk back and for to the prime for charging to correct levels. Further investigation as noted in my last post should hint at this so stay tuned. I will note that they keep the chargers in the back at my local store and when I called had no idea what I ws taking about. I had to give them the item number from online before they could find it... So I would check availability online and find a store that has them in stock before you go on a wander to find one. Hope that helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 through a rift in time and space....
Decided to try to call Verizon and again inquire about heat. I was very specific in the inquiry ... basically that I was just checking to see if Verizon had any notes about heat, now that the phone has been out for a while.
The CSR said she did see something about exchanging batteries and would pass me on the tech support as a warranty issue.
The tech support person, after a seriously long hold time, said she reviewed the Verizon trouble database, checked with a teir 2 analyst, and even called HTC.
Not surprisingly (once HTC was involved) she came back with:
1) We recommend people with heat issues use a Vinyl case to help with heat [I guess Vinyl has heat-dissipation capabilities I was not previously aware of]
2) Hard reset the phone
3) If you are streaming and your phone gets hot, stop streaming for a while
4) Buy an extended battery [did that, still gets hot]
5) This is a very powerful processor, so it will get hot.
#5 is the key. It means"we have found the excuse that will get us out of this".
The tech rep said she saw nothing about battery exchange. She acknowledged MANY internet reports about heat, but said that Verizon can only do what HTC says they can do; and that hopefully HTC would take all these reports and develop a software fix that manages the heat better.
So no joy from Verizon, which is killing me because I really want to unlock and root, but am staying away in case the phone is no good. Of course, for all I know, I don't have heat issues, but too many people saying things like "I never go above 105" have me paranoid about my phone (which can get to 115 in regular game play, and once got to 120 in a car). If I knew that "Relocked" wouldn't be an issue if I ever had to warranty in the future, I would go ahead, but ... ugh.
Anyway, in case anyone wanted to know.
Damn talk about a run-around. Normally my phone doesn't get warm until I really start using it...for example...One day just cleaning up the house and streaming Pandora for hours allowed my phone to get fairly warm.
It's never shut down on me or anything but it still is worrisome. Makes me wonder if there is an issue with all these phones but not many people REALLY use them to find out.
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My phone has never rebooted on me, and perhaps too many people claiming their usage never gets the phone above X degrees is simply too specific to each person to actually mean anything to anyone else (and all these stories have done, is F'd with my mind, making me think my phone runs hot when maybe it actually doesn't) ...
but, I'll tell you this ...
This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
I have had two Rezound's. I stream audio all day long at work, either iheart radio or sirius radio online.
Both these services cause ANY phone to get rather warm. I'm not sure what temp my first one went to, but it got so hot in my pocket I thought it was going to burn me. Even using a 2750 batt it was going dead in like 4 hours.
The phone was two weeks old. I called VZ & they wanted to send me a refurb. I told them NFW & they finally agreed to send me a brand new phone. The new phone barely gets warm in the same conditions & that same 2750 battery lasts all day now.
My phone on average use gets about 100-105, 110 if the screen is on and on full brightness for a while. Highest I've seen is 125 when I was using an MHL adapter for over an hour, then the phone shut down. Other than that I haven't seen any shut downs related to heat. I do agree though that come summer, this IS going to be a problem, but hopefully by then they'll have figured out a way to better manage heat... I hope.
Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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I agree with that no issues. I suspect a lot of my concerns comes from various people at XDA saying "I stream 1080P while playing Reckless Getaway while listening to Pandora over 1x while on the telephone and my phone never gets any warmer than 32°F/0°C".
Unfortunately, without someone with one of those magic Rezounds standing right next to me, running the same game (for example), there is no way to REALLY know if a phone is operating normally or not.
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This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
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I welcome this problem coming in at summertime as they may be forced to replace my rezound with one of the new quad cores or somethin.. dont get me wrong I love this phone but if a defect got me the latest/greatest I'd be all over it..
Hey guys,
I went out on a limb and bought the OWL car charger+dock for my DNA.
There is a bunch of discussion on the item here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734 along with plenty of pictures.
I wanted to let you guys know some specifics for the DNA:
1. The phone fits perfectly into the clip. I don't have any cases, so I can't test that, but naked the phone fits like a glove and is very secure, even upside down.
2. Even the "second generation" of charger still does not put out enough juice for the DNA, even with the phone at idle.
I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him. I am thinking the problem might have something to do with the controller inside the charger. It switches to red (charging) momentarily when the phone is inserted, but then switches back to green (full).
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I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him.
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Update 1: Moon has emailed back already to assure me that if the charger doesn't work, he will do what it takes to make it right.
I am hoping we can figure out a way to make the phone work in the charger, since I love the design and the convenience of Qi...
awesome! I have been wondering if it works for our phone since I saw the post you linked above about a week ago. I emailed moon about it, but he was unsure. I'm glad that someone confirmed what I have been wondering. Thanks again
I'm also looking forward to more info on this. Going through the website I couldn't quite follow if it worked or not.
Update 2:
The Qi charging coil built into the CarPad does work to charge the HTC DNA, unfortunately the coil is positioned about 0.5" too low for the phone.
Moon is working on an adjustment to the circuit board to re-position the charging coil.
Tonight I am going to take a look at temperatures during charging. With the screen turned on the battery did get 3-4°C warmer than normal on the Nokia Qi charger, but it was a pretty short charge. I am going to try leaving the screen turned on and the phone charging on the CarPad tonight for a couple of hours to see the charge rate and temperature change.
Other news:
There does not seem to be any scuffing, scratching, or denting of the phone's finish caused by inserting and removing from the clip. I had worried that the spring arms on the side might hurt the matte finish on the back of the phone, but so far I don't see any changes.
Thanks guys,
Ben
thanks for the update, keep us posted. in car qi charging is very interesting.
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Thanks, I got a reply from Moon that he thinks the "autopad" will be the option for the DNA and he'll let me know when it is available. I will post info here if I hear back.
http://owlpad.net/owl-autopad/
Update 3:
Good news tonight. First, I've done a temperature test using the phone at room temperature. With navigation, LTE, and the screen constantly on the CarPad provides moderage charge (+200mAh) and does not cause excessively high heat (under 45°C). This is comparable with the 43°C I saw with the Nokia Qi charger while watching a Netflix Stream.
With the screen off the temperature is also pretty normal (35°C) so I think the coil is good.
Moon at Owl Chargers tells me that he may add a little to the coil to make it more consistent on the charging, and he is going to create a new PCB that has the coil positioned 1/2" higher so that it will line up properly with the DNA.
It sounds like this change could happen pretty quickly, but I will let you know when I have the test board in hand.
Thanks guys,
Ben
Please keep the updates coming, thanks!
Hey everyone, sorry for a few days of delay.
I talked to Moon this morning and he thinks they should have the test board created by the beginning of next week. He is moving the charging coil up to line up better with both the DNA and the Galaxy S3, and he is upgrading to a bigger charging coil to presumably give better charging efficiency.
I have removed the standard charging coil from the phone holding base and have been using it as a standard desktop charger for the last few days (with the Owl-Pad supplied AC Adapter). It has been working well for that as long as I position the phone properly, so with any luck the new board should fix the problem in the car mount.
I will let you guys know when the new part ships, and will be sure to take pictures of the new versus old board.
Thanks,
Ben
Thanks for the updates.
Sudo make me a sandwich.
Good news from Moon at OWL Pad today, the new circuit board is complete, his testing looks good, and he is shipping it out to me to test on the DNA tomorrow.
I will update everyone here with pictures once I have the new board and have been able to try it out, but Moon posted some initial tests on the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 which both charge at the higher position. Those tests looked good so I have to think it will work on the DNA as well.
Thanks all,
Ben
(You can see my pictures and charging screenshots on the OwlPad site)
http://owlpad.net/2013/02/24/owl-carpad-for-htc-droid-dn/
AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
bigjew92 said:
AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
breeze94 said:
I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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Looks like the set is for sale for the DNA on the web page now. Still sounds like he's waiting for test results but you go through with an order now if you want.
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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So far everything looks GREAT!
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
bmyton said:
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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awesome! thanks for the feedback and being a Guinea pig for us all... i really appreciate it. so to make sure, you are now using the carpad/N2 right? if so, i'm gunna go ahead and place my order.
Thanks again
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
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Thanks! Placed my order. I'm willing to give it a shot at this point!
Hi!
Well, first the phone is not for myself but I will send it to my mom as her nokia died and I wanted a better phone with a bigger screen.
I almost went with a LG L9 4.5" but the bigger internal memory, faster CPU and better camera features on the Amaze made me change my mind.
So, I was thinking maybe I need to root it to remove anything that slows it down but in reality, mom is not a power user. I will just have her do MMS now so maybe is not worth spending time figuring out a new system (I come from Samsung, Asus Prime, Xperia) for a user that really is not going to notice any lag etc.
I got it with a 5 pin cable which seems NOT to be the right one and charges slow so one thing I am getting is an OEM 12 pin for it unless I am not right about this.
So anything you like to share, I am happy to read about.
Thanks!
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Hi!
Well, first the phone is not for myself but I will send it to my mom as her nokia died and I wanted a better phone with a bigger screen.
I almost went with a LG L9 4.5" but the bigger internal memory, faster CPU and better camera features on the Amaze made me change my mind.
So, I was thinking maybe I need to root it to remove anything that slows it down but in reality, mom is not a power user. I will just have her do MMS now so maybe is not worth spending time figuring out a new system (I come from Samsung, Asus Prime, Xperia) for a user that really is not going to notice any lag etc.
I got it with a 5 pin cable which seems NOT to be the right one and charges slow so one thing I am getting is an OEM 12 pin for it unless I am not right about this.
So anything you like to share, I am happy to read about.
Thanks!
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Yes the 12 pin is better, but unless you've got the factory charger, go for a quality higher amperage one like the generic dual purpose type that can be used with a tablet. These beasts draw a lot of current, so much so that when plugged-in and used with a lesser charger, it will still be draining its battery.
Even though it's for your mom I'd still root it and install Titanium Backup. Then I'd remove the T-Mobile and HTC bloat, some of which never worked, or no longer works. Then after removing the cruft, I'd install every available update then integrate them into '/system/app' with TiBu. Finally, I'd unroot and relock it, to avoid the late night service calls she'd give you if she accidentally messed with something she shouldn't have. Then you'll be good to go.
I did this very same procedure when I hooked my mom and stepdad up with smartphones last year. They both were new to these devices. They previously owned moto RAZRs. They live outside of Memphis and I live in Miami. The one thing I feared in getting them Androids vs iPhones were the possible late night tech calls from them. So I did for them exactly what I told you and they've been happy owners ever since.
I hope this helps.
Ciao
That sounds like a good plan.
Any specific charger you recommend or anything listed for HTC tablets etc should do the trick from ebay?
Looks like THIS should work.
shaolin95 said:
That sounds like a good plan.
Any specific charger you recommend or anything listed for HTC tablets etc should do the trick from ebay?
Looks like THIS should work.
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It should work. I bought my amaze off Craig's list after I broke my HD2. I got it relatively cheap ($100), but it had no charger or data cable. I thought no big deal, I'll just use the HD2's. Thats when I discovered how much this juice uses. The HD2 charger just wasn't up to the task. I kept getting warnings about the current draw being too much and the device was unable to charge.
I wanted to resolve that right away. So I went to Best Buy and overpaid for a generic one with the highest amperage output they had. It's rated at 2.4 amps, I think my old one was rated at 0.8. You don't have to worry about too much amperage because of the regulator in the phone. Plus by getting the one I did, I figured I'd be equipped for any type of device I might throw at it in the future. That in combination with the 12 pin cable has worked for me. Now I can do even the most intensive task while plugged in and it never gives me a warning anymore about my device being unable to charge. I hope this helps, good luck!
The charger I got is rated like the original 5v 1Amp but the cable is surely not doing the job. Still I will just get that charger and call it a day.
Thanks amigo!