How are other android touchpads doing? W / the 1.7ghz overclock I'm hitting a Max of 98ish mflops and 3300+ on quadrant! Which makes it my fastest Droid to date. Lets see if anybody can post a better quadrant screenshot?
richard head said:
How are other android touchpads doing? W / the 1.7ghz overclock I'm hitting a Max of 98ish mflops and 3300+ on quadrant! Which makes it my fastest Droid to date. Lets see if anybody can post a better quadrant screenshot?
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i overclock my touchpad to 1.782 ghz. do you know how to overclock gpu
adreno 220 is in 266 mhz original but i need to overclock it to 300 mhz because its a very good frequency or 320 mhz
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Think I beat you
Fastest I've gotten. Have not really tried with the latest versions.
general feeling is that as far as benchmarks go, quadrant is crap
should try antutu instead.
ive a thread in this section somewhere where some people have posted results
This discussion seems a bit flawed, in that you're gauging performance based upon benchmark software, etc. We've talked about this a lot over the past year, and most of these tests are very dependent upon specific hardware setups, usually in much older devices with older chipsets. My Nexus S w/ a single-core 1ghz UNDERCLOCKED to 880mhz scores a 3500 all the time in Quadrant. No way in hell it's better than the touchpad. It's not even a fair fight, if you compare raw specs.
Do you judge the performance of your computer based on how fast it can perform iterations of Prime 95? No, you judge it based on user experience.
Is your user experience with CM7 very fast? I know mine is. Based on that, and the experience I get with gfx-intense apps like GTA3, etc, I say the performance is very good.
PS. The fact that Quadrant to this day still has the Nexus One as its top reference device says something about it being old and outdated. The Nexus One came out in Jan 2010, 2 years ago.
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I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Well, the Evo 3D does have the ability to do 3D, so I imagine it will take up some resources, but I have a feeling that the benchmark scores will only get better as HTC and Sprint release updates and fixes for it.
Probably the bloatware
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
For the most part synthetic benchmarks are not really useful. How much are they off anyways? I'll bet you'll never notice the difference.
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cordell12 said:
Benchmarks are boo boo! For a benchmark to read correctly the cores need to be ramped up to max for the test. The app does not draw full ramp from the dual cores. Plus they are asynchronous, once we root and have kernel source for added tweeks we will blow tegra away (even with tegra tweeked)!
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pretty much what I came into say. the Nexus S scores don't blow you away before you root either,but once Rooted, it is capable of truly amazing power.
pretty much every review says the Evo 3d feels much faster and much more fluid than the sensation.
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because you touch yourself at night.
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LMAO!
10 char
the processor is an ASYNC and the cores are able to run at different speeds for different task. The programs testing are better suited to your normal SYNC processor which are both always running at full all the time.
The need to write code to take advantage of the ASYNC and its methods to reach max must be included in the programming before they will ever be able to measure the full potential of the ASYNC.
you could say in those test I could garuntee you one processor is running max one is not. if at all. But if it is. its just a little as the program has not told it to run both processors at max if its a ASYNC,
ADD the qHD and the program would need to account for that.
imagine if the screen was amoled or just 800 x 480. this thing would be brutal beast.
but at the end of the day I love HTC phones.
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
Not only that but benchmarks are known to produce pointless infighting and petty bickering over measures that are not only highly suspect but also not related to actual use...
...or so the old wives tale goes...
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xdmds said:
I've noticed that the evo 3d has been scoring lower than the sensation, which is spec'd performance-wise. Exactly the same except for the evo having more ram. So I don't really understand why it would eb scoeing lower
Also if you're here to try and dispute the credibility of benchmarks leave now because that's not the point of this topic.
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Actually, check out Anandtech's bench of the Evo 3D and Sensation from a couple of weeks ago, and the check out the same bench of those 2 devices when they tested the Droid 3 a couple of days ago.
Comparing the scores, the 3vo scored the same both times. First time it was higher than the Sensation, and second time lower. So somewhere in between, the Sensation got a software update that made it score higher on those benchmarks. I'm guessing we'll see the same kind of improvement with the 3vo in time.
leaving now. Just beating a dead horse here, this has been debated a million times.
your holding it wrong?
NewZJ said:
your holding it wrong?
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Yeah he should call up for his free rubber band.
freeza said:
HTC Sense is known to produce low benchmark scores. Once AOSP gets on this baby, it will fly through the irrelevant benchmarks like nothing.
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While I did run asop on my evo no way will an asop rom touch my evo 3d. Sense 3.0 is great and I doubt asop will supoort 3d.
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I hate people who point out benchmarks on a phone... :|
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
2900 gpu
shep211 said:
LOL if htc's scrap snapdragon duel core had good benchmarks I bet all of you would be posting about how elite your phone is and how good it does in benchmarks but since it sucks you say benchmarks don't matter. Don't fool yourself benchmarks do matter. Yes quadrant can be tricked by unlocked phones with edits but benchmarks ran on tegra 2 & crap snapdragon using smartbench 2011 (does use both cores) gives realistic performance.
evo 3d
2089 cpu
1648 gpu (lol slower then galaxy s 1)
tegra 2 (stock atrix 2.3.4 with crap motoblur)
2737 cpu
2661 gpu
tegra 2 overclocked
3989 cpu
2900 gpu
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Bro its because tegra manages different. Tegra uses both cores to do one single task. While the EVO 3D chip set is asynchronous. This means when you run a benchmark only one core is being processed during that application. The other core is running other processes to keep your EVO lag free and running smoothly. Benchmark is only a number anyway.
Remember this tho forever. benchmarks are like a girl in a bikini, they show a lot but not quite everything.
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Is there a way to overclock the Adreno 220 GPU that I consider to be laying dormant as of now inside the HTC EVO 3D and Sensation? I read some of post the the Desire HD section that mentioned they were jealous that the sensation already got a GPU overclock but they didn't provide a link and my searches have come up with nothing. If I could, I would post a link, but I didn't find anything. If anyone could provide a hit of clarity or insight into this topic, please do.
there is already a thread requesting that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285205
here is the sensation kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Dear god I wouldn't do that. The adreno 220 is a very good gpu. I think it's the fastest one commercially available.
Plus I've had a bad history with gpu overclocking. I tried overclocking my ATI 4820 and it just ended up not working at all
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
well thank you for redirecting me, and i was hoping somebody would have made some sort of app as was done for the Samsung GSII, but thank you nonetheless
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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From every ROM I've ever seen they never say the GPU has been overclocked. That requires Kernel modified.
Everything I've seen states "GPU Tweaks" which I believe only means they've tweaked the amount of memory allocated or the MPAA settings. Which is just a simple prop edit.
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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hao pley?
lol serious question.
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how is this thread going ?
I would really much like to see the possibility to overclock the adreno 220 because I think we can gain a lot of preformance in games etc..
hope someone looks in to it
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
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Umm its been here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
It overclocks the gpu to either 300 mhz or 320
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is this gonna work on Europe version?
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Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
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qualcomm spec was 320MHz max (for HW001 and HW002)
i have 2 kernels - 1 @ 300 and 1 @ 320
How the andrino 220 stack up now,compare to the iphone 4S one and the mali 400,any answers will be greatly appreciated.
I am looking to buy a new phone,i don't like iphones,my current one is a Vibrant,so i am thinking about the Galaxys 2 from T mobile.
But since it use a 1.5 qualcoom cpu and andreno 220 GPU i don't know,since i don't know that GPU well,i don't know if it is weak or not,i love the Vibrant GPU it was quite ahead of anything until the Tegra 2 arrived.
Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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I have see some performance test and at least vs the Mali 400 which the other galaxy have is actually the slowest,i actually have read some reviews that say the T mobile one is the weakest performance wise thanks to the Adreno 220,but saw some text in which the Adreno was faster than the Tegra 2.
Since i am looking to buy a T mobile galaxy S i am trying to get the most research to see if i get it or not.
I figured I would run quadrant stand and see what I got and I got some interesting results. I got a score of 1830 which is a little bit less then what people have gotten on my phone the Samsung Galaxy Prevail which is a lowend single core 800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7627-3 plus the phone only has 384megs of ram. On top of that quarant says the device only has 1 core so Im not sure whats going on with that
I really don't care for quadrant -- at all. It provides far too divergent results on different devices of the same model/SW, it often does not use all available resources to test a device, and I find its results far too inconsistent to be worth regarding as anything other than a random grouping of numbers.
Im just wondering what other apps see the cpu as 1 core and not the dualcore it really is like quadrant does.
This section is not for discussions like this. This is more suited to the general section.
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Im just wondering what other apps see the cpu as 1 core and not the dualcore it really is like quadrant does.
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The Nook Tablet usually turns off the second core in order to conserve battery power. I don't know what the conditions are wherein it will spin up the other core.
hmm could be why some apps are a bit slower then others. and why a lowend smartphone is getting better quadrant scores then this dualcore of a monster
Montisaquadeis said:
I figured I would run quadrant stand and see what I got and I got some interesting results. I got a score of 1830 which is a little bit less then what people have gotten on my phone the Samsung Galaxy Prevail which is a lowend single core 800 MHz Qualcomm MSM7627-3 plus the phone only has 384megs of ram. On top of that quarant says the device only has 1 core so Im not sure whats going on with that
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Mine got 2140. And a phone with a 800 mhz processor cant reach that unless it is rooted and overclocked. Only on CPU i got around 1500 points. So that means with custom rom the graphics can be improved and with overclock i think it will be able to reach at least around 3500. And quadrant its not so accurate either.
If you check this thread you will see a couple of people that are running CM7 have gotten 1900-2100 scores
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-prevail-all-things-root/479489-quadrant-score.html
So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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So, now we have phones with quad core processors clocked at higher than the transformer 300, are they more powerful than tablets or is there something I'm missing?
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I am running at 1.6ghz on my tf300. Got a quadrant score of 5290 and cf-bench of 14930, Antutu 13116.
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I meant without root. Are phones actually more powerful now?
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Yes and no. True, they are clocked higher but, the internal processor is exactly the same in terms of speed and power. The RAM is also the same (1GB) except for that new LG phone which has 2 and is coming out in some Asian country later this year.
Also quadrant means nothing, were getting to the point where lower quadrants may mean better devices, let me explain.
A GOOD processor setup will clock down when in low power mode and when there is a high demand clock up to deal with it. Quadrant does not always throw enough weight to kickstart that high performance mode in all setups, so sometimes it tests lower than it should.
You also have to remember that quadrant tests IO of everything. If you have a better processor but, say, slower memory, you will test LOWER on quadrant even tho you have a better processor. If someone with, say a Galaxy S I9000 has an uber C10 micro SD and has the system loaded on that the IO for that system will be very high and even tho its only a 1ghz phone it could, in theory, quadrant higher than the TF201.
This is why i hate quadrant tests, they are flawed and i have seen roms that are meant to test high on quadrant and nothing else, and believe me for every day use they are SLOW.
Rest assured at this point theres only really one major quad core mobile processor. The 201 has it. The 300 has a lower clocked version of the same chip. The 700 is going to have a higher clocked version of the same chip. From a PROCESSOR standpoint, they are virtually identical.
Now when you say powerful, the galaxy S 3 (rumored) will definately have the potential to one up the prime. Usually samsung goes for lower res screens so the GPU doesnt have to work as hard, they have a customized chip so the processor may be slightly higher, and when factoring in other things (USB OTG, MHL abilities, Camera resolutions, etc.) it MAY be considered more powerful.
For now, tho, the prime is one of the top dogs. Maybe not THE top dog, but definitely a contender. Just remember: Theres always a bigger fish.
I concur with you fine sir.
These quadrant scores comparing processors should be ran to benchmark just the processor not everything else. That would at least give you comparable results.
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Wow did a antutu test on both of my phones and was expecting my L 9 to beat my escape. Boy was I suprised! My l 9 got a 10,568 ( pretty good compared to some). Then I ran the escape. My jaw dropped when I saw the amazing score of 15139. WHOA, it beat it in every catagory except RAM operation. My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
I get around 11k running mateo's CM 10.2 ROM.
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I have 9,616 running CyanogenMod 10.2 official (19/11/2013) :crying:
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That's because custom rom overclock both CPU & GPU so it has higher score.
My L9 on CM 10.2 by mateo with stock cpu and gpu speeds i have 9843 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz i have 10671
With stock CPU and GPU at 384 MHz i have 9732 pts
With CPU at 1,2 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 10706
With CPU at 1,35 GHz and GPU at 384 MHz i have 11502
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My l 9 is running kumas rom with pure performance tweaks with cpu overclocked at 1.2 ghz. The escape is running sphinx rom with no cpu tweaks. Strange thing is every stats info I see on the escape says it has 1.2 ghz dc snapdragon. However im getting 1.5 ghz??? hmm Whats everyone else scores looking like for their L 9 ?
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Your LG Escape has got a better cpu and gpu and it would have shown better performance anyway. My L9 running stock showed maximum of 9600 with pure performance tweaks. But I don't think Antutu points can give you a good idea of how fast and smooth your phone is
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Thats what I was getting at. Despite having a better cpu and gpu on the escape using both phones side by side in real world use the L9 performs better ALL around. The gpu was a big part of the escapes high score. However in side by side comparisons the L9S graphics seems to look better and out perform the escape. So I honestly believe all benchmark scores reflects what the phones software/hardware is CAPABLE of performing not really HOW it performs with daily use. This would explain why a score can as much as double by simply running a custom rom. I would never solely base my opinion of a phones performance on a benchmark score. Sure it can give you a idea of what its software/hardware is capable of. However you cant honestly get a true feel for the performance until you try the phone. So my escape murders my L9 in benchmark scores. BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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BUT my L9 murders my escape in real life usable performance. Anyone else agree with this?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yeah, I got your point! I guess, the only good thing about the Escape's cpu and gpu is that it's more battery-friendly, isn't it?
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Yep, and both phones use the exact same battery. The escapes standby battery life is much longer than the L9 . During normal use the escape lasts longer as well by not to the degree of the standby difference.