I wanted to ask if you really need s-off to run CyanogenMod, I mean, I had a mytouch slide not soff and I was running cm7. The reason I ask is because lots of people say we need s off in order to get cm. Could someone clarify this??
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eggydrums said:
I wanted to ask if you really need s-off to run CyanogenMod, I mean, I had a mytouch slide not soff and I was running cm7. The reason I ask is because lots of people say we need s off in order to get cm. Could someone clarify this??
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not my aosp ics im working on you wont screw cm no need when you got evervolv ics
eggydrums said:
I wanted to ask if you really need s-off to run CyanogenMod, I mean, I had a mytouch slide not soff and I was running cm7. The reason I ask is because lots of people say we need s off in order to get cm. Could someone clarify this??
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No - you do not need S-OFF if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I have an Evo w/the latest OTAs.. but I heard that the HTC method of unlocking isn't as good as the revolution way.
What should I be looking for/waiting for? I'm so pissed off.. might just sell it and get the damn GS2 instead!
Ky772 said:
I have an Evo w/the latest OTAs.. but I heard that the HTC method of unlocking isn't as good as the revolution way.
What should I be looking for/waiting for? I'm so pissed off.. might just sell it and get the damn GS2 instead!
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You can use HTC's method and still flash ROMs, kernels, or just root your phone. The steps are a little different with HTC's method than if your phone was just S-off, but I think you can accomplish everything besides flashing a different HBOOT. I do think a 4.5" screen might be nice to see though .
Thank you, kind sir.
Could you help me with these steps, please?
I am still a newbie, you see.
Thanks in advance.
Do some searching in cdma dev section I've seen how to root guides for hboot ..1.50
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Ky772 said:
I have an Evo w/the latest OTAs.. but I heard that the HTC method of unlocking isn't as good as the revolution way.
What should I be looking for/waiting for? I'm so pissed off.. might just sell it and get the damn GS2 instead!
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You should start using ur phone, capture some hot chicks in 3D and share with us... And u can forget about the GS2
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I just rooted my friends 3VO using htcs method and it works fine.
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ssojyeti2 said:
I just rooted my friends 3VO using htcs method and it works fine.
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Can you flash custom kernals/radios/any roms?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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I recently got a new HTC Amaze 4G for T-Mobile that has S-OFF and appears to be SIM Unlocked for other carriers.
Since S-OFF is rare on this phone does it mean that it has been factory SIM unlocked and does it mean it is worth more with S-OFF?
I really have no use for S-OFF and was wondering if I should sell it to someone that could put it to good use for development or something else? What could they do with S-OFF on the HTC Amaze 4G?
Thanks!
Dont sell and just share with the community. If its not s-off Eng then it won't matter anyway
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knifeproz said:
Dont sell and just share with the community. If its not s-off Eng then it won't matter anyway
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It says SHIP S-OFF. Is that useless then?
Trust me it's not useless.. Just that the eng s-off is more valuable to development then ship s-off. Idk if anyone has pulled the partitions from ship s-off I know x pulled them from his eng s-off.
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Thanks. THe previous poster said to share it instead of selling? What does that mean? Use development tools on it and share files or partitions from it? I'm not a dev. so it couldn't do much...
I think your best answer would be from one of our devs.. try pm'ing faux and nrg and get their opinion on wat to do
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aj_2423 said:
I think your best answer would be from one of our devs.. try pm'ing faux and nrg and get their opinion on wat to do
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What is nrg's Full alias on here? I wasn't able to find the right guy.
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What is nrg's Full alias on here? I wasn't able to find the right guy.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=458936
I recently got a new HTC Amaze 4G for T-Mobile that has SHIP S-OFF
What can one do with SHIP S-OFF on the HTC Amaze 4G?
Should one sell it to someone that could put it to good use for the community?
i THINK (im no expert here so im only guessing)
you need to
1 not update it yet.
2 read on the development forums and find the S off forum and check your versions of your phone to the ones that have been grabbed and if its a different version
3 create need to create dumps the entire phone. but im not sure.. really check the soff thread under development
this whole s off thing s on thing confuses me still since im coming off an N1 but i think i understand it.
lucky bastard! Kidding lol
Ashcunak said:
i THINK (im no expert here so im only guessing)
you need to
1 not update it yet.
2 read on the development forums and find the S off forum and check your versions of your phone to the ones that have been grabbed and if its a different version
3 create need to create dumps the entire phone. but im not sure.. really check the soff thread under development
this whole s off thing s on thing confuses me still since im coming off an N1 but i think i understand it.
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Not update it to what? ICS when it is released?
I think he meant don't do an htc firmware update
Yeah cause they've been having a hard time getting S-Off with this phone which is really holding back ROM development. It's the reason they cant slap a ICS ROM on there.
Xboarder already have a s-off device just like you did, it would be nice if you sale it to another high developer like faux123 he works with kernels he might figure out how the drivers works with a s-off amaze or to a coder, so these people can figure out all the drivers and how to get ours s-off
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Yeah cause they've been having a hard time getting S-Off with this phone which is really holding back ROM development. It's the reason they cant slap a ICS ROM on there.
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That's not the problem at all. The reason why ICS roms aren't going so well is because HTC hasn't released the drivers/code for WiFi, BT, etc, so these aren't working in ICS rom ports. S-ON is not much more than a minor annoyance and can be worked around. Once an ICS build has been leaked by HTC, ICS development should pick up.
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That's not the problem at all. The reason why ICS roms aren't going so well is because HTC hasn't released the drivers/code for WiFi, BT, etc, so these aren't working in ICS rom ports. S-ON is not much more than a minor annoyance and can be worked around. Once an ICS build has been leaked by HTC, ICS development should pick up.
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Max's CM9 currently has wifi. Wish the community would get that straight. :-(
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Max's CM9 currently has wifi. Wish the community would get that straight. :-(
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My bad. They are having trouble with radios EXCEPT Wifi. Better?
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Max's CM9 currently has wifi. Wish the community would get that straight. :-(
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Thats great for him but without his source no one else can do anything, so we, the community, are still without it
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LS1_01 said:
I recently got a new HTC Amaze 4G for T-Mobile that has SHIP S-OFF
What can one do with SHIP S-OFF on the HTC Amaze 4G?
Should one sell it to someone that could put it to good use for the community?
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I think your best answer would be from one of our devs.. try pm'ing faux and nrg and get their opinion on wat to do
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Sorry i'm still new to the Amaze and that's the reason I was given for the lack of an ICS ROM. Apparently it was incorrect info, my bad.
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F033x said:
I think he meant don't do an htc firmware update
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Why what happens if you did?
Edit: Wtf, xda mobile derp.
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Edit: Wtf, xda mobile derp.
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Huh?
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OK, Im ready to root my new EVolTE, whats the best method to root giving me S-OFF? I might not flash any rooms for now, but will root just to get tether.
Any advice?
rooting
Right now the only way to get S-Off is to go to HTCdev and get it there, but that isn't "true" S-Off from what I understand, and rooting and S-Off are 2 diff things, to actually root get on youtube and search rooting evo 4g lte, there is a great vid there on how to do it, make sure you have a unzipping program first. it's a piece of cake
S-Off hasn't been officially hacked yet.
Hope this helps
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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david279 said:
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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Evol lte doesn't have s-off yet. You can gain root without flashing anything and htcdev is so can install a custom recovery, which gives you ability to flash a rom.
I've been wondering about this myself. I haven't even seen any word on whether anyone is working on getting s-off for this thing. I've been hoping for CM9 to come to the new EVO eventually. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need s-off to flash AOSP? If that's the case then they probably wouldn't even start work on it until someone finds a way to get s-off. I just miss CM7 from my OG EVO and unfortunately there was never a fully working version for the 3D. I really considered getting the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up the HW specs on this thing.
HTC dev unlock is enough for aosp kush has a cm9 wip that boots
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Also imy guess to get s off will be similar to the junopbear method or.whatever where we have to short out the emmc by grounding it but idk if that same exploit would s off the bootloader ...
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We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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david279 said:
We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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Yeah s off just makes things a little easier tho you ya know so I hope we get it before to long
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Yeah been wondering the same thing. I remember when the 3D came out we had a few bounties, two or three different teams and numerous individuals actively trying to get S-Off. Haven't heard from anyone trying to accomplish it for the EvoLTE.
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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From what I remember from my OG EVO & 3D, I thought it was a pain in the butt & took a lot more steps to do as opposed to flashing those things with S-Off.
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ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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Or can we?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698337
One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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More info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694589
I unlocked my bootloader with HTC dev, and have S-ON. Apparently, it is okay to flash roms in this state, having used this method. I don't want to try flashing, as I don't want to risk bricking my phone and I am waiting for either cyanogen mod for my GSM version of the Evo 3d, or a decent, working jellybean ROM. So, do I need to get S-OFF, or am I okay as it is? If I do need S-OFF, what would be the best way to do it?
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Oh yes, and I have superuser, Google Now, CWM recovery and HBOOT 1.53.0007.
U don't need it but it makes things easier. My bootloader is locked but I have s-off. That's the way I prefer it. U really only need one or the other to flash roms.
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If you want to flash new firmware you do. If you want to flash a kernel, depending on your recovery, you need to be s-off or use a computer to boot recovery. If you want a custom splash screen, you need s-off.
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I just installed the 4ext recovery and flashed a few roms. It can accommodate S-on to some degree. And its a lot easier than using the volume butttons to do anything in recovery.
You should give that a shot if you haven't already.
Is there much risk in using the wire method to gain s-off? I don't want to break any part of my phone and that sounds like it might... Im fine with the splash screen, and I don't want to mess with kernels. Would s-on restrict the usage of roms such as cyanogen mod, and is that rom likely to be released for the gsm evo 3d?
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HuckleberryWill said:
Is there much risk in using the wire method to gain s-off? I don't want to break any part of my phone and that sounds like it might... Im fine with the splash screen, and I don't want to mess with kernels. Would s-on restrict the usage of roms such as cyanogen mod, and is that rom likely to be released for the gsm evo 3d?
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A lot of the ics roms that have true 3.x kernels that work better with updated firmware. You would have to s-on to update them. Unless you relock take all the otas the unlock again, but some roms based on the new OTA need the 1.58 hboot and all the aosp roms can't use it so it necessitates going back and forth with hboots. That also requires s-off.
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raptoro07 said:
A lot of the ics roms that have true 3.x kernels that work better with updated firmware. You would have to s-on to update them. Unless you relock take all the otas the unlock again, but some roms based on the new OTA need the 1.58 hboot and all the aosp roms can't use it so it necessitates going back and forth with hboots. That also requires s-off.
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Sorry, I am a bit of a noob, can you explain that a bit better? And am i right in thinking that if I update my phone, I will then have to re-unlock?
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go with s-off it makes life easier for u no problems alot less stress
vegeto999 said:
go with s-off it makes life easier for u no problems alot less stress
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Ok, thank you
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it honestly doesn't hurt too much to do it, especially if you don't intend to fiddle around/flash ROMs with your phone too much.
Yeh man I was a bit skeptical to do it too, but after doing the research and finding out it was recommended to do S-off I was glad i did, and its fairly easy to do.