Confused About Size - HTC Titan

I am looking on eBay at the Titan's for sale and some say the screen is 4.3" and others say it is 4.7" When I compare both they have the same Model number. Anyone know if there is a difference depending on if it is unlocked or AT&T?
Also -- the unlocked ones, will they get T-Mobile 3G?

shEEEsh said:
I am looking on eBay at the Titan's for sale and some say the screen is 4.3" and others say it is 4.7" When I compare both they have the same Model number. Anyone know if there is a difference depending on if it is unlocked or AT&T?
Also -- the unlocked ones, will they get T-Mobile 3G?
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It's 4.7" - not 4.3". No different with or without any operator branding.

Its 4.7. I have the at&t version unlocked running on t-mobile and it does not get 3g only edge :-/
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This information is in the Titan Wiki, thats why i set it up! Its even been given a sticky! So a search was not even needed. I only give this response because you are a senior, and you should know better!
I dont usually close threads like this in the general section, but so far this is a nice and tidy forum. I would like to keep it that way.
Please use the resources the good users in the titan forum have supplied before you post.
If anybody finds any more threads like this i have missed, let me know. I will stamp them out to make the info you need easier to find. You can PM me or use the report button, Thanks for your cooperation.
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[Q] Switching to the Titan, but need some advice

Hello everyone,
I've been an android user for a year and a half now, but after getting a grip of a WP device I am surely making the switch, and the Titan has caught my eyes from the first sight!
I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice regarding where to get the phone from and what version should I get?
I live in the Middle-East and the phone is currently unavailable here but I want to get it from the internet, there are many versions of the Titan and I am not quite sure which one should I buy!
Here are the options I got and I don't know which one I should go with:
1- The AT&T version: I've read that the AT&T version had some problems regarding voice quality but its the cheapest among them all (around 500$ and I need to unlock it of course).
2- The international version -don't know what's it called really- factory unlocked on amazon for 675$.
3- The UK version on ebay for 600$, factory unlocked.
Considering the fact that I am kinda a noob regarding these stuff, I would like to hear your suggestions, what difference is there between all these three and what should I get for someone living on the other side of the world, also would like to know what the UK version differs from the others.
and is there a chance that the phone won't work with my carrier, what info should I ask them for and check before buying the device ?
thanks a lot for your time, any help is much appreciated
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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ROCOAFZ said:
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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I see, so that is a disadvantage for the AT&T version.
Umm, ok what about the UK version, what's wrong with it more like what is the difference between it and the international one?
ROCOAFZ said:
ATT is slow to release updates so I would recommend an international unlocked. You are gonna love the big screen and all the iPhones will be jealous saying it's too big. That's when I set my titan on top of theirs and say Iphone? I see no stinkin iPhone
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had an iclone user pick mine up the other day and pretend it was a riot shield. "it's just sooooo big!" wait until the iclone 5 has a bigger screen, suddenly this form factor will become "magical." &^%$ers!
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
tai4de2 said:
The AT&T one will *never* tether on any network other than AT&T. Not sure about the UK one.
You might want to investigate whether the int'l unlocked one can.
If it were me I'd get the int'l unlocked one, *unless* I specifically needed a UMTS band that that one does not offer.
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UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
drupad2drupad said:
UK unlocked here - tethers with everything!
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since you own the UK version, may I ask you what differ is there between it and the international version ? (the UK version is cheaper by 75$) but I don't know if it'll work as I live in the middle-east and I don't know what to ask my carrier for to know?
thanks
I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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I am not entirely sure about international version. But I think it probably not much difference hardware wise for sure. Since certain features of OS are limited to certain countries ir might be the case. E.g. Bing features, tell me services etc. It might be helpful if I say that even in UK version the radio is set to International.
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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ok that's great to know, features like Tell Me and others aren't that important to me and honestly it'll help me get a British accent, hehe
but the most important thing that there isn't any big changes, stuff like the market won't work or these kind of things, right?
thanks for your help
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Do a search though. In some countries Market won't have certain apps. The market ideally should work in all countries but some have lesser apps than others e.g. we don't have the Netflix app in the UK. Check out what Market looks like for your specific country. Unlikely you will have all the apps. It's more to do with MS sorting out the legalities etc for each country gradually..
iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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iFan has their own bias, so i won't talk about it here.
AT&T Version always slow in the Update since AT&T have to test it and do whatever they want to the update before it can be published.
I have the X310e version from UK, unlocked and totally happy with it.
And with the international version, you have the "HTC" agent color, which is removed on the AT&T Titan.
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HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants
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The USA version is 850/1900/2100.
The UK version is 850/900/2100. The international version is probably the same as that one, but not sure.
The OP probably only needs 2100, so any of them will probably be just fine.
Now if we could only get a variant with AWS...
drupad2drupad said:
HTC agent colour is also present in the UK version. So does this mean only the ATT doesn't have it? or is UK and international one the same thing?
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AT&T has a choice what to do with the ROM for their Phone. and they choose to remove the Agent Color HTC. I have heard it from multiple sources.
All others versions has the HTC Agent color.
StevieBallz said:
The Apps in the market will be dependent on the Country given in your Live-Account. This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
So those things will most likely have to be sorted out firt. The HTC-Titan as far as I know supports the same 3G Bands in all it's variants which makes it usable on pretty much any UMTS Network worldwide with only a few exceptions. The exact supported bands can be seen on the HTC Titans product page on htc.com
The UK version as far as I know is hardwarewise exactly the same as the international one, only difference might be in what UI languages are available (all keyboard languages are present since the Mango Update anyway although Middle-Eastern-Language support is currently expected to arrive with the Tango-Update - meaning it's not available yet).
Hope this helps and provides you with a rough idea of what troubles can arise.
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okay , let's say I get the UK unlocked version and use it in my country "Jordan" , I don't know where I read it , but as it seems every phone is region locked , and if I get a UK phone for instance I won't be able to get an update to my language for example (which is Arabic) .. is that correct ?
I don't know, its safer to get the international version even tho it's a 100 bucks more expensive , but I thought about asking you guys cause I don't know a lot about these stuff.
Thanks
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This can't be changed afterwards, so if you use an US-Account and someday Microsoft extends their Market to your country you're either stuck with the US Account (don't know if it will accept a Non-US-Creditcard - it doesn't accept european cards for US-Accounts as far as I remember) or you lose the Apps which are bound onto your US-Account and create a new one.
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I changed the country my live account was associated with. It's a bit hard but you can do it. There is a how-to online if you search for it.

[Q] Galaxy S2 I9100 vs US Variants (T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint)

I'm trying to decide what model to buy. I'm not from US and I'll not use my cellphone there.
I've noticed that there are plenty of US variants. Since I'm not used to all of these, can somebody tell me what is the support for these variants out of US? I mean, OS Updates, Custom ROMs and even parts.
I'll take a GS2 to my country (Brazil) and I don't want to get there and find out that I'm stuck with a nice phone but that will not work properly, will not have updates and will not have parts for it, including nobody wanting to buy it as well.
Thanks for your advise.
gsmarena for differences
Ok, Atfish, let me add something to my first post: I ALREADY checked Gsmarena for all variants, even Wiki for that. I'm not asking about hardware specifics, I'm talking about personal experience, ROM update, parts, etc. As I said, I'm planning on buying one when I arrive in USA, but don't know what could be the problems faced after I leave the country with a US variant (band problem already checked as well).
I know that Cianogen supports AT&T, for example, but none of the others. So, accordingly to knowledge AT&T is the closest thing to the standard I9100, but it doesn't mean that I'll be able to have all the privileges of a I9100. I'm looking for the closest thing to the I9100 that I can buy, since all US variants are always 30-50% cheaper than the International version.
Thanks, though.
Get the I9100. Plenty of custom firmware. Most common variant. Should work with most networks in most parts of the world.
Parts ? What have parts got to do with anything ? Your phone breaks or doesn't work, you send it in to Samsung/an authorised repairer for warranty service or take it to a mobile repair shop if it's out of warranty.
Why would you even consider a US variant? The one for Sprint is designed for CDMA networks, and probably won't even work for any of the carriers in Brazil, and the ATT and T-mobile USA variants will both have a bunch of branding. And the T-mobile USA variant uses slightly different frequencies than the ATT one, so you would have to do your due diligence with researching which one would work with your carrier. An un-branded i9100 is your best bet.
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Get the I9100. Plenty of custom firmware. Most common variant. Should work with most networks in most parts of the world.
Parts ? What have parts got to do with anything ? Your phone breaks or doesn't work, you send it in to Samsung/an authorised repairer for warranty service or take it to a mobile repair shop if it's out of warranty.
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Mistah, you think it's not worth pay a little bit less for any of the US variants? I prefer to get the I9100, but the other are always cheaper.
Parts. Remember, I'll be outside of US, so get support for a US variant out of US could be very tricky.
ctomgee, thanks. I'm start to think that paying less now could cost me a lot more in the future.
I can't comment on that, because I don't own one of the US variants. What I do know is the I9100 is the 'most common' variant & it's easy to get help with it on places like XDA & there is plenty of custom firmware & mods for it.
We have a number of Brazilian members here on XDA who have the I9100, which suggests it works well with the networks in that country, and I'd be surprised if you didn't have repairers in the major cities at least who couldn't easily repair an I9100.
Up to you whether you want to get a cheaper US variant. Maybe ask on the specific boards on XDA devoted to those phones to get an idea from people who actually own those phones ?
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Mistah, you think it's not worth pay a little bit less for any of the US variants? I prefer to get the I9100, but the other are always cheaper.
Parts. Remember, I'll be outside of US, so get support for a US variant out of US could be very tricky.
ctomgee, thanks. I'm start to think that paying less now could cost me a lot more in the future.
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I can't comment on that, because I don't own one of the US variants. What I do know is the I9100 is the 'most common' variant & it's easy to get help with it on places like XDA & there is plenty of custom firmware & mods for it.
We have a number of Brazilian members here on XDA who have the I9100, which suggests it works well with the networks in that country, and I'd be surprised if you didn't have repairers in the major cities at least who couldn't easily repair an I9100.
Up to you whether you want to get a cheaper US variant. Maybe ask on the specific boards on XDA devoted to those phones to get an idea from people who actually own those phones ?
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I came here just to check the general idea of I9100 owners. Sometimes there are things pretty obvious about some variants that I, as a totally new user to Android, have no idea.
I used a lot XDA during my Windows Mobile experience, tested several different ROMs and tools, but since 3-4 years ago I don't have any phone that actually requires my visit here (Blackberry, in that case). So I've dug up a bit to know more about the different versions in order to know where I was going into. But I couldn't decide without coming here and checking with the XDA community, since I'll use for sure the ROMs and Tools available here on this phone.
With the answers that I've got so far it's pretty clear that it would be a mistake to buy a variant, specially not being a US resident.
Thanks, again, for your help.
better to ask that in att forum as we are not using the variants.....
plus i dont know where you get that impression that us variants are cheaper....!
they are not see the full price not contract price
atifsh said:
better to ask that in att forum as we are not using the variants.....
plus i dont know where you get that impression that us variants are cheaper....!
they are not see the full price not contract price
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Where? eBay, Craiglist, Amazon... I'm not talking about phone with contract here, just carrier branded. A lot of times they are unlocked, but still branded.
I think I already bothered too much here, don't know if I want to annoy people there asking silly questions.
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Where? eBay, Craiglist, Amazon... I'm not talking about phone with contract here, just carrier branded. A lot of times they are unlocked, but still branded.
I think I already bothered too much here, don't know if I want to annoy people there asking silly questions.
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This is not a silly question at all.
From what I know, the ATT 3G one is closest to i9100 international. These phones are lightweight and have better screen (better clarity and contrast, not much though) than the 4.5 inch variants like Tmobile.
Tmobile has 4G and there are still a decent selection of roms.
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This is not a silly question at all.
From what I know, the ATT 3G one is closest to i9100 international. These phones are lightweight and have better screen (better clarity and contrast, not much though) than the 4.5 inch variants like Tmobile.
Tmobile has 4G and there are still a decent selection of roms.
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Thanks for your info!
I've noticed, when looking for a Windows Phone for my wife, that the AT&T version could be normally used in Brazil. The frequencies are basically the same.
From what I have found out the AT&T version was the closest one, just wanted to have a confirmation. Thanks for that.

[Q] How to get i777 working in Korea

I have an ATT GS2 running cm9 and I would like to be able to use it for the year I will be in Korea.
Is it possible to simply flash a korean modem and have it work here? (does that question even make sense?) Or am I SOL because I don't have the international version?
All I want is to be able to stick in a korean sim card (from South Korean Telecom) and have it work, if I am misinformed or simply uninformed about the steps needed to make that work please let me know.
I've been a lurker for awhile and this is the first problem I've had where I actually have needed to post. Any replies are sincerely appreciated
PS: I know I am a n00b and n00bs creating threads is like the worst thing ever, but I searched the forums for a good long while before posting. I also posted this question in the i9100 forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28207590#post28207590), but nobody replied.
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I have an ATT GS2 running cm9 and I would like to be able to use it for the year I will be in Korea.
Is it possible to simply flash a korean modem and have it work here? (does that question even make sense?) Or am I SOL because I don't have the international version?
All I want is to be able to stick in a korean sim card (from South Korean Telecom) and have it work, if I am misinformed or simply uninformed about the steps needed to make that work please let me know.
I've been a lurker for awhile and this is the first problem I've had where I actually have needed to post. Any replies are sincerely appreciated
PS: I know I am a n00b and n00bs creating threads is like the worst thing ever, but I searched the forums for a good long while before posting. I also posted this question in the i9100 forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28207590#post28207590), but nobody replied.
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You obviously did NOT search, reporting thread
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Nick281051 said:
You obviously did NOT search, reporting thread
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If the answer is out there and you found it where I could not, I apologize, but I would really appreciate it if you could let me know (a) the process that you used to find it and/or (b) the thread(s) with the answer to my question.
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If the answer is out there and you found it where I could not, I apologize, but I would really appreciate it if you could let me know (a) the process that you used to find it and/or (b) the thread(s) with the answer to my question.
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Unlock it, simple
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Try howardforums.com lots of knowledgeable people there that could possibly help
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nyamoV2 said:
Try howardforums.com lots of knowledgeable people there that could possibly help
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I am glad you sent me there, it has a lot of information but most of it is from 2008 or so, and I'm not sure if it is entirely relevant to my situation
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Unlock it, simple
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My phone is unlocked and I put an SKT sim in it today and although it did not come up with a sim rejected message there was no cell service. I have heard about the modem that is flashed on your phone affecting cell service, so do you think I should find a korean modem and flash it on my phone? If not what can I do?
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My phone is unlocked and I put an SKT sim in it today and although it did not come up with a sim rejected message there was no cell service. I have heard about the modem that is flashed on your phone affecting cell service, so do you think I should find a korean modem and flash it on my phone? If not what can I do?
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This is not an area that I know very much about, but I can give you some things to look into. First, as far as I know, you can only use an AT&T modem on the I777. There are a few options posted in the development forum, but they all work with the frequencies available on AT&T towers. I know the I777 is used in India, and a few other countries successfully, but I don't know about Korea. You have to look at what frequency your cell service is on, compared to the frequencies availabe on this phone. I'm guessing that you have a mis-match, but you'll have to do the research. So your original statement is probably true, that you would need the international version of the phone.
Edit: Did some looking around. You still need to check the frequency issue, but the main issue is that the SK sim card is locked, and you have to complete the following, which I grabbed from another forum:
For those of you who may not know, the rule currently is that every phone model that is not sold in Korea must be cleared by Korean Communications. They have an updated list of all models that have gone through testing and have been cleared so far (the N900 was already tested by someone else so I did not have to get recertification). The only requirement for me was to have the IMEI number registered with SK (this applies to KTF and LGT as well).
Just to summarize:
1) Make sure your phone is unlocked (not even a step really, common sense).
2) Check to see if your phone model has been tested by the KCC (optional step really as the list is very long and even some very niche phones have been tested already, if your phone is a model people have heard of, like you can just say the model name and 1 out of 10 people have heard of it, it'll have been tested).
3) Take it to your local branch office (SK/Tworld, KT/Qook Show, LG/uPlus) and make sure it is a branch office, not simply a retail outlet. The retail outlets are called "daeri-jeom" and the main offices are called "ji-jeom". You want to go to a "ji-jeom". There is usually 1 main "ji-jeom" per city.
4) Ask them to register your IMEI # and either purchase a SIM card or pop in your existing SIM car if you are a customer.
If you have an obscure phone that happens to have not been tested yet, there is an added step in the process that will take about 10 days and requires some paperwork but I won't comment on it as I don't have any first-hand experience going through that process.
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And, in case any of you are wondering why I would take the time to do this. I have a very good firend, actually the daughter of a very good friend, who is from the small town I live in, and who is currently teaching English in Korea. I know she would probably not even know how to search for the correct answer. So... this is for Lily.
Thank you so much! As you may have guessed, I am just starting out as an English teacher here in Korea, and I will be sure to pass on this information to all my other teachers who would like to use phones here.

Don't buy the "Google Edition" - here's why

For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense.
I know, T-Mobile is "refarming" (we love that word) their network to use 1900 or whatever, but fact is, the 1700 band is a necessary thing for the distant future.
The T-Mobile version is the only Pentaband One available. Carrier unlock it for $10, then flash the AOSP build and you are good to go. If the rumors of HTC letting all One owners put AOSP on their One, this even sweetens the deal since you don't have to deal with unlocking bootloaders and flashing stuff. I'd assume if they announce an AOSP option for the One, there will be a straightforward way to flash safely for the average Joe.
Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
Yeah pretty much most of us will just unlock the bootloader and flash the asop rom
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For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense.
I know, T-Mobile is "refarming" (we love that word) their network to use 1900 or whatever, but fact is, the 1700 band is a necessary thing for the distant future.
The T-Mobile version is the only Pentaband One available. Carrier unlock it for $10, then flash the AOSP build and you are good to go. If the rumors of HTC letting all One owners put AOSP on their One, this even sweetens the deal since you don't have to deal with unlocking bootloaders and flashing stuff. I'd assume if they announce an AOSP option for the One, there will be a straightforward way to flash safely for the average Joe.
Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
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The other, perhaps equally as good reason, is that the T-Mobile version only costs $579.99.
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Yeah pretty much most of us will just unlock the bootloader and flash the asop rom
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^^^^ What he said ^^^^
I just noticed the unlocked version is now $599.99 when it was originally $574.99.
I wish I had read this post before I bought my Google Play edition of the one.
I've spent a couple hours on the phone the other day with t-mobile support and Google support trying to figure out why my new one couldn't connect to anything better than the edge network. Neither of those companies new the right answer. It took me reading these forums before I figured out it was because the Google Play edition didn't have the right antennas inside. The next day I went to T Mobile and bought the T Mobile version and I am now in the process of returning the Google Play edition.
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I almost sprung for the GEOne, but ultimately chose to go through T-Mobile so I could spread out the cost of the phone and it's 20 bucks cheaper.
Didn't even think to check the supported bands, glad I made the decision I did.
Though, I kind of wish the GEOne was pentaband and I would have bought it, because I like the idea of the Google Edition flagship phones... If the program doesn't sell many phones I'm not so sure Google will continue it.
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Glad I helped others. In all actuality, the T-Mo One isn't "Pentaband" (missing 900 mHz I believe) but it has the necessary bands for the US. If you live in Europe, it may not have the correct bands, but I use ATT/TMo on mine just fine.
Sorry for a noob question.
I have the T-Mobile HTC One fully stock. Would love to go to the Google Edition ROM. Could someone point me to the direction of how I go about doing that?
Do I need to unlock the bootloader and root to flash the rom?
Thanks
Thank you for this thread. I've been reading for a few days now, and this was the final straw on me deciding where to purchase. See you guys in a few weeks.
The Cincinnati Bell version is also the same as the Tmobile version minus bloatware and branding.
This also goes for the Dev Edition.
I ended up selling my Dev Edition 64GB on Swappa for 520 and then bought a TMobile one off of Craigslist for 420.
On the Dev version my phone jumped from Edge to LTE and LTE being rare around here and on this TMobile one I get 4G because of the missing band.
mt3g said:
Thank you for this thread. I've been reading for a few days now, and this was the final straw on me deciding where to purchase. See you guys in a few weeks.
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oooohhh ****, welcome!
ericshmerick said:
For the life of me, I cannot understand why the Google version is the same as the AT&T Version - missing the 1700 band. This makes no sense....Paying $599 for a non-Pentaband One is a silly idea. Get the true Pentaband version - the T-Mobile hardware. It's so strange that Google didn't opt to utilize the T-Mobile hardware for it's Play/One offering. Very strange, IMO.
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I agree. This is terrible for consumers, and mystifying why Google would do it. It would be bad anyway, but many (perhaps most) people wouldn't even realize it from looking at Google's page about the phone. It blithely glosses over the issue with statements like "Freedom of choice....Unlocked means world travel is easy....Compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile in the US." I had looked at the page and didn't realize it had this limitation until I saw it mentioned elsewhere on the internet. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these and then found out it's handicapped like this.
nicksmizzle said:
oooohhh ****, welcome!
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Haha I'm reading so much its killing my brain cells and interfering with work almost lol. Sooo much going on with this phone. Anything I should know in particular please PM me man, don't wanna hijack this thread.
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just wondering but I was looking at the specs and the tmo version is missing the HSPA 900 MHz band so how would it be a pentaband phone? unless if im reading it wrong
This is absolutely true.
Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
The T-Mobile HTC One is the best version with all the bands and you can FULLY CONVERT IT to be either a Developers edition or Google Edition.
I converted my T-Mobile HTC One to both Dev edition and Google Edition just to see if it was possible, and yes it is.
Dan37tz said:
This is absolutely true.
Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
The T-Mobile HTC One is the best version with all the bands and you can FULLY CONVERT IT to be either a Developers edition or Google Edition.
I converted my T-Mobile HTC One to both Dev edition and Google Edition just to see if it was possible, and yes it is.
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does that mean it has the HSPA 900 MHz band? that band is a must for me before I decide to get it. thanks
bapurado said:
does that mean it has the 900 MHz band? that band is a must for me before I decide to get it. thanks
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According to post #8 in this thread:
ericshmerick said:
In all actuality, the T-Mo One isn't "Pentaband" (missing 900 mHz I believe) but it has the necessary bands for the US.
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Maybe that's a whole other WTF for such a new, expensive phone, but the even bigger one is the Google Play edition not supporting the bands needed for T-Mobile, and furthermore the page saying:
Compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile in the US.
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Why anybody would buy the Google edition is beyond me.
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Probably mostly because they don't know better. I didn't when I started looking at the phone. The Google Play page certainly doesn't say anything in plain English about the issue, and implies that it is a good choice for T-Mobile. It's a huge WTF that they would sell an unlocked phone missing a major component of functionality on one of two major US GSM carriers, when there's a version of the phone that includes that component. You'd have to be pretty well informed about the technology to be able to recognize the problem from that page, and you'd have to scrutinize the relevant specs to notice it.
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According to post #8 in this thread:
Maybe that's a whole other WTF for such a new, expensive phone, but the even bigger one is the Google Play edition not supporting the bands needed for T-Mobile, and furthermore the page saying:
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Probably mostly because they don't know better. I didn't when I started looking at the phone. The Google Play page certainly doesn't say anything in plain English about the issue, and implies that it is a good choice for T-Mobile. It's a huge WTF that they would sell an unlocked phone missing a major component of functionality on one of two major US GSM carriers, when there's a version of the phone that includes that component. You'd have to be pretty well informed about the technology to be able to recognize the problem from that page, and you'd have to scrutinize the relevant specs to notice it.
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thanks for that info. guess ill pass for now =(.

TA-1196

I searched the model and AT&T. I can't seem to find anything relevant. I seriously want to buy this phone. But, I want the international unlocked for the extra ram/rom. Checking the bands. It appears the phone has the right ones for AT&T(well actually a MVNO of them).
I have yet to find any review anywhere with someone saying they are using it on their network. So, I know I will probably get roasted for this. But, I am buying two. If anyone could offer any advice or actual usage. I would sleep better.
Please and thank you.
pckarma112 said:
I searched the model and AT&T. I can't seem to find anything relevant. I seriously want to buy this phone. But, I want the international unlocked for the extra ram/rom. Checking the bands. It appears the phone has the right ones for AT&T(well actually a MVNO of them).
I have yet to find any review anywhere with someone saying they are using it on their network. So, I know I will probably get roasted for this. But, I am buying two. If anyone could offer any advice or actual usage. I would sleep better.
Please and thank you.
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Maybe you already know the site.
I found this about AT&T.
I only used the Nokia 7.2 in Europe, so I can't tell you anything personal about it.
https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/att/nokia-72
Good luck.
LH
Thank you
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Maybe you already know the site.
I found this about AT&T.
I only used the Nokia 7.2 in Europe, so I can't tell you anything personal about it.
https://apn.gishan.net/en/apn/att/nokia-72
Good luck.
LH
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Thank you for pointing me to that web page. It does help. From what I can tell. It looks like the 1196 is missing band 17. I would be ok at 3G if I am reading this correctly. But, either way. It is a gamble. I am currently using a MVNO called Good2Go. From my current phone. I can see that I am using band 5.
Well, I have a decision to make. I hope my wife does not kill me..lol
I was really hoping someone on AT&t would chime in. Even though it could change depending on the area. I am going to try it..Thank you.

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