.... is there an option to wipe or leave the internal SD card? Is it advisable to wipe it or leave it?
Coming from the original Incredible, the concept of internal SD is new... should I view this as just another SD storage that happens to be non-removable?
doing a factory wipe through amon ra should not touch the internal sd (per their thread in the dev section).
You can always wipe things separate: wipe data, wipe cache, davlik cache.
What is it wiping then? I assume the external card is always safe when talking about wiping in any rooting/flashing/recovery situation...?
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Yes, when you wipe data/factory reset, everything is erased except for your external sdcard. The internal sdcard will be wiped of all data.
And if you're flashing a new ROM, you should wipe everything. Your ext sd card, the one you can actually take out, will not be touched unless you tell it to erase it or partition it.
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Yes, when you wipe data/factory reset, everything is erased except for your external sdcard. The internal sdcard will be wiped of all data.
And if you're flashing a new ROM, you should wipe everything. Your ext sd card, the one you can actually take out, will not be touched unless you tell it to erase it or partition it.
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Can I assume then that a Nand backup with defaults WILL backup the internal SD card as well? I notice that's where apps are moved to when I choose to move them to sd.
Here is info on backing up using Amon Ra. Sorry I don't have a link to the post, I copied this from my notes that I have compiled by copying and pasting from threads. It's in the Amon Ra thread in the dev section. Not sure it answers your question but hopefully it helps.
drellisdee:
Sd-ext (if apps2sd mod is used) backs up the mmcblk0p2 apps2sd partition
Android secure backs up the android_secure folder on the external sd
Android secure internal backs up the android_secure folder on the internal sd
I have yet to see any implementation of sd-ext on rezound so leave that one out. The android secure internal is there as some htc oem roms like on the droid incredible 1 have the android native app on sd on the internal memory. I'm not sure how its placed on the rezound but that option is there if needed.
So to answer the question for most people the most common needed items to backup would be:
Boot, data, system, android_secure.
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feralicious said:
Here is info on backing up using Amon Ra. Sorry I don't have a link to the post, I copied this from my notes that I have compiled by copying and pasting from threads. It's in the Amon Ra thread in the dev section. Not sure it answers your question but hopefully it helps.
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Thanks.... (heading on over to Amon Ra thread in Dev forum)
DIncLover said:
Can I assume then that a Nand backup with defaults WILL backup the internal SD card as well? I notice that's where apps are moved to when I choose to move them to sd.
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Yes, if you do a Nand backup in AmonRa with the defaults that are selected, you will get your phone back as it was at that moment. All apps and data will come back as they were when you backed them up.
WasabiWa83 said:
Yes, when you wipe data/factory reset, everything is erased except for your external sdcard. The internal sdcard will be wiped of all data.
And if you're flashing a new ROM, you should wipe everything. Your ext sd card, the one you can actually take out, will not be touched unless you tell it to erase it or partition it.
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I asked that exact question in the amon ra thread and they said unless you tell amon ra to wipe the internal sd, a factory wipe only wipes data, cache, davlik cache.
I don't know why some people are having problems, but using htc dev unlock and amon ra, neither touched my internal sd memory.
straight from the dev's keyboard:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20194037&postcount=23
I am using Amon Ra 3.12b , and have flashed back and forth about 3-4 roms and it never wipes my internal Sd card if I choose wipe data/factory reset. I have watched what it wipes and it wipes Data, Cache, android-secure but I saw a post where it might not be wiping android-secure.
There is a separate wipe you can choose to wipe for internal SD card , but it is not by default.
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Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
UnitedWeFall said:
Hi All,
I did a factory reset today and flashed the stock 4.1.1 Polish ROM via Odin. This process seems to have wiped my files (including photos etc) from my S3 (internal memory, not SD card). I've flashed plenty of ROMS before and this has never happened.
Anyone know if it's possible to get them back? I guess I've installed new apps etc now so a lot of the data would have been overwritten. Frustrating!
Thanks for any tips.
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You answered your own question with your first sentence : I did a factory reset...
Unfortunately its not possible to get back the data
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Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
Factory reset in S3 will always wipe internal memory as it shares internal memory for applications.
If you want to restore try some data recovery software that supports SD card.
ultramag69 said:
Unless you backed up on PC or sd card...
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That would be the only way. There is a very small window to recover data wiped from flash memory and on a phone it would be even more difficult. Maybe a Clockwork backup?
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
zoot1 said:
Internal SDcard is mounted on the system partition via Fuse..so if you format the /system partition..sdcard is formatted as well..
Pointers for future..
Use CWM for flashing ROMS..(I hate Odin )
Backup your internal SDcard on your PC regularly
Perform a Nandroid Backup on your ExtSDcard before flashing any ROM.
If you ever need to factory reset..use the wipe data/factory reset option in CWM and not in Stock Recovery
For a clean install, if you want to wipe system partition..use wipe /system option under mount and format in CWM..it just wipes the system files and your SDcard data will be safe..
You will not face such issues if you in the future if you follow these pointers.
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Thanks for that. Lesson learnt I guess..
i've planned to format my internal since it left insufficient storage left.. i dont know what's wrong with my internal memory.. i already transfered all the files like photo, music and movie to my computer, and the storage still low.. so i decide to format it, but i had read some thread in google that said if we format our system, we will lost our "certificate file" something called EFS.. is this true?
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
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Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
qtwrk said:
No, sdcard is in /data/media folder.
EFS and other files are storaged somewhere else won't be affected if you format sdcard in right way.
if you use recovery like TWRP when you factory reset, you will see it reports something like "Wipe data without wipe /data/media "
Suggest you do so in recovery instead of system
You can format these partition without problem
Cache, dalvik cache, internal /external sdcard, data and system, don't do anything you don't know about.
If you format system, then you have to install new one otherwise phone won't even boot up.
Just be careful.
And if you do something wrong, and you can still go into recovery and download mode, then your phone is still alive.
Remember backup EFS and copy to PC!!!
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
slaphead20 said:
Formatting sd won't mess up your efs, in fact I format data/system/sd card and preload every flash, but that is mainly because I'm swapping between Samsung Roms and Aosp, with the associated sd/0 problems
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thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
NoobSEowner said:
thank u for the information, which setting provide a format for system
thank u for the information, so it's safe to for mat data/system/sd card?
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As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
slaphead20 said:
As long as anything you may need is on ext. SD, ie the Rom you want to flash after wiping!
And make sure your titanium backups and nandroid are on ext sd also, and backed up on pc, in other words, all usual precautions.
Grab HC-kTool from Play, and make a back up of your efs and copy that to multiple places then you are well and truly ready to go!
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but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
NoobSEowner said:
but, after formatting internal, does CWM recovery will also gone? then how can i flash a new ROM?
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No, your recovery will still be there
slaphead20 said:
No, your recovery will still be there
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and the internal will have more space? now im running out of MB in my internal =.=
I have to much junk and empty folders on the phone. I tried format through CWM, format system, cache, data, emmc...everything is still there. I want to clean (as in new) my internal storage.
Does "factory reset" does that, or is it just for deleting any 'personal' data (pics, files) etc?
Thanks.
Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
creepyncrawly said:
Wipe data/factory reset only wipes the data partition. What you want is to format the internal sdcard. Go to Settings | Storage and select "Format SD card."
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Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
No. No. No.
You can format the root files from CWM recovery. You said you tried that and it didn't do what you want.
Formating the internal sdcard will remove all your personal files from the phone, including pictures and any other files and directories you have created. If that's not what you want to do, then don't format the internal sdcard.
Formating the internal sdcard will not touch the system, kernel, data partition or any other root files. You will not lose root. So yes you will be able to boot into cwm recovery, or even into whatever system you have installed after formating the internal sdcard.
sbi1 said:
Thanks.
Will I then be able to boot into recovery, or CWM will no longer be there and I'll have to use ODIN?
Also, am I losing ROOT when doing that?
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Common sense, make a backup (meaning copy and save your personal info to somewhere else first, you can delete them later if you really don't need them).
Also, adding to what creepy has said, be sure "SD card" is your internal storage, not external uSD.
I suggest you removing the external uSD card first, just in case.
The reason I said so because with CwMR and Task's AOKP, format SD card is formatting the external uSD card, while "format /emmc" will be do the internal one.
Just precaution.
Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
sbi1 said:
Thank you both.
Yes, I already 'discovered' that formatting SD Card in CWM formats the external ...luckily I didn't have anything important there.
I still don't get it though. Looks like we are talking about two different things.
I have my internal storage fully backed up. I want to wipe it clean, as in a PC Format. Is there a way to do that, or can I simply remove empty folders in file explorer? Too much junk has been collected there in a year and a half of many custom roms and different apps that I tried and removed.
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Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
dsmboost said:
Refer to 2nd post. Your internal storage has 2 partitions. One is where all the system data is, and the other is where all the personal data is (where apps install to). If you do what's written in the 2nd post, it will completely wipe clean the personal partition.
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Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
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Will I still be able to access CWM and install custom rom from Ext SD?
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Yes, formatting internal sd card (doesn't matter which partition) does not touch either of those.
I want to remove files that have accumulated from other roms. In others words like stock, but with custom rom. I like Beanstown106 with SD swap.
Thats a little tricky with sd swap but you will have to painstakingly go file by file and see if it's something you have deleted to something that you are still using. If you have any apps that created a folder and are gone for good then you are safe to delete. But avoid any system app folders and anything that you are still using like pictures, music and so on avoid.
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thx for help
I'm installing cleanrom ace 4.9 my goto rom next to beanstown106. No SD swap and I was thinking of formating SD card. Now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
I usually wipe EVErYTahING wenever i flash something new sd card and all just to start from scratch but all i got on sd card is pix and music so its easyily backed up
SAPPERJD said:
now how do I erase what a factory reset won't delete.
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from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
SAPPERJD said:
I did consider formating from recovery. I'm just scare of deleting the OS and my phone ending up being useless. I did research and what I read it won't. Any advise is welcome THX to everyone.
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How would it end up being useless? Its no different than a pc...your reformatting and installing the OS on a clean slate.
I was thinking if I formated the internal it would delete recovery as well. And had no way of installing a new rom. Thx again really help full.
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droidstyle said:
from recovery, format internal and external sd. that will wipe everything out completely.
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I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
rechbo said:
I want to clean up my directory structure. If I format the internal and external sd using recovery (TWRP) to wipe everything, what rom will boot? Will my custom rom boot or will the original verizon rom boot? Will I have to unlock the bootloader again? Thanks.
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you will lose all data and need to reflash the rom in recovery...no you will not have to unlock again, nothing performed from recovery will overwrite the boot.img.
I was scared of the losing my OS as well, but it's not that hard. Treat it as two steps. Formatting your sDCard, and then prepping your SdCard by doing a Nandroid backup to your SdCard, and copying a flashable ROM (and kernel if your ROM does not flash a kernel) to your SdCard. Before formatting your SdCard copy anything you want to keep to your computer. I just copy the whole card to my computer.
Reboot and do your data resets and wipes, including internal storage (format data in twrp) Then flash your ROM that you put on your ext SdCard. Your nandroid backup is your insurance. Worst case you boot into recovery and restore your backup.
(But you should still have a working toolkit or ADB on your computer and you can recover from any screw up)
As long as you have what you need on your (ext) SdCard before wiping internal storage, and you only do a data reset and cache wipes and only do 'format data' you will be fine.
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Hellow,
Well i have done a factory Reset and Wipe Partiition/cache from Sgh-i727 Recovery Mode (Stock Rom) and i still can see all the files that i have in internal SD Card. The phone has return to factory settings, but the data still remains. I have already done a Back Up of all my files using Titanium Back up but the problem still remains 6 GBS of information i had before the reset 6 GB i have now after the reset.
Any Ideas? Does not suppose to erase all the data the factory reset function?
Thank you
Constanine.
1. Factory reset will NOT touch your internal SD partition, meaning all your personal stuffs as well as some folders created by apps will be intact.
2. If you want to wipe all those, try do format usb or something.
3. This is for i777, not i727.
Oh i see. Thank you very much for your answer. To do a format to Internal SD Card what i am supposed to do? Sorry for the wrong thread.
dreico33 said:
Oh i see. Thank you very much for your answer. To do a format to Internal SD Card what i am supposed to do? Sorry for the wrong thread.
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Type "format SD" into Google and see.
From me to you.
None of the custom recoveries will wipe sdcard in recovery unless you specifically wipe it in the menus. Theres an entire option just for that purpose
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