More Sprint LTE Drama - Motorola Photon 4G

"All Sprint phones are capable of lte or will be replaced."
http://www.acsyndicate.net/sprint-says-all-4g-devices-will-have-lte-is-this-tru/
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I'll believe it when I see proof.
Sprints LTE Roll Out hit a Major setback the other day with LightSquared pretty much getting permanent denial, so its up to Sprint and Clear to roll out LTE now - I don't see it being done any where on the scale they were hoping to now with the speed they were hoping to now.
We all know how well Clear does with management.

Another Epic Fail. This will just be another case of Sprint not providing the service that people have been promised in the past. The same with old 4G that we never got here in Phoenix Arizona. We were promised it would become available August 2010 and never got it. Then were told they would not roll it out because LTE would be coming and not it will probably not be.

It would be nice if it will be true but I am in another country witch dose have lte is there a program that I can use to reprogram mine now?
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MikeyLee said:
Another Epic Fail. This will just be another case of Sprint not providing the service that people have been promised in the past. The same with old 4G that we never got here in Phoenix Arizona. We were promised it would become available August 2010 and never got it. Then were told they would not roll it out because LTE would be coming and not it will probably not be.
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That's sad... But casa grande has it...which sucks
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Is it April 1st already?

So sprint and lightsquared are not bringing us lte? Wtf
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LightSquared is a joke and will never get LTE approval. The bandwidth they are currently on the were using for free and took a gamble and lost. The LTE they proposed would interfere with all GPS satellits in orbit. Do you think the entire world is going to take all of that down and put new ones back up? NO! Easier for FCC to say "f**k you" and rightfully so.
I dont see sprint giving anyone damm thing. Satan will Ice Skate outta hell before Sprint give you something for free.
lastly, member kennypow3rs beat this horse sometime back, Photon does NOT have LTE Radio!!! FCC has pictures of the phone apart. The only way would be take it to Sprint, have them remove current WiMax Radio, put back a LTE Radio, and put it back together. And you know how I know for a fact thats not gonna happen? Go to your Sprint store and ask to speak to a technica Rep. My brothers dog's know more about a Photon then they do!!
But, In Sprints defense, they maybe ****ty now, but As I said with the merger, They have free Government money bo blow, @ $23+Billion if I remember correctly. (Thats correct, Uncle Sam is paying them (well, actually Nextel, but that's just technical crap) to roll out new crap!

Another quote on the LTE timeline by Sprint: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...any-windows-phones-in-the-near-future-either/
Sounds like 4 LTE markets by middle of this year and who knows for remaining 2012.

Sprint is on a dead line to roll out lte because of their contract with Apple and the iPhone 5.don't worry about it.
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calisoldier83 said:
Sprint is on a dead line to roll out lte because of their contract with Apple and the iPhone 5.don't worry about it.
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Not to mention they are way behind the other carriers because of the bad decision with WiMax and need LTE asap to compete.

CCallahan said:
Not to mention they are way behind the other carriers because of the bad decision with WiMax and need LTE asap to compete.
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This reminds me of the BetaMAX vs. VCR battles of 30 years ago. BetaMAX was actually a better device, sadely they dumped all of there loot into it. When the studios pulled towards VCR, that was the nail in their coffin.
If Sprint was not so greedy to make a buck, they could have saved on the WiMax mistake. But as I posted eariler, they got loot to blow and its not theirs!

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This reminds me of the BetaMAX vs. VCR battles of 30 years ago. BetaMAX was actually a better device, sadely they dumped all of there loot into it. When the studios pulled towards VCR, that was the nail in their coffin.
If Sprint was not so greedy to make a buck, they could have saved on the WiMax mistake. But as I posted eariler, they got loot to blow and its not theirs!
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You mean VHS, of course.

This confuses me so much. I wish we had a beceem engineer just to clear this up, but that'll never happen. I officially give up on late for my photon.
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Motorola Rep Says Photon Has LTE Chip!

Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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27s said:
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
Overstew said:
They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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ORam78 said:
Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Djspinister said:
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
Djspinister said:
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
-DJ
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see

Bye Bye!!!

so long PHOTON!!!
it deff wasent' the phone...it was sprint...i was tired of all the issues with customer service and my bill being different each month
also in january sprint "restructured" the family plan....cost was the same...but the way it broke it down made me spend 20 bux more a month becuase my discount wasen't applied the same way
after a couple phone calls....i finally talked to a cool supervisor...since Sprint changed my contract "technically" this happened in jan...for EVERYONE keep in mind
they will let you outta ur contract with NO ETF's - but only for sixty days
so if your on a family plan and have been looking to get out ...now is the time!!!
thank you to all the dev's for all ur hard work
but i'm gone...keep it up...ICS was getting really cool
i'm on the Fence either gettin the LG Spectrum or the new Nexus!!!! both neat little phone....back to Big RED
deuces!!!
Personally, I would not blame Sprint, they have the best plans and service in the business if you ask me.
Blame the employees!!! We have a few forum members here that can root the hell out of a phone and tell you exactly whats up. The remainder of Sprint employees could not tell you how to boil and egg!!!
I have proof!!! My power botton fell off some how and I took it back to Sprint August 20, 2011. I took it to Sprint and 2 homeboys came out the back. The first thing out of his mouth, "Have you had this phone for 30 days or less?"
Nuff said!
lucidvtec said:
so long PHOTON!!!
it deff wasent' the phone...it was sprint...i was tired of all the issues with customer service and my bill being different each month
also in january sprint "restructured" the family plan....cost was the same...but the way it broke it down made me spend 20 bux more a month becuase my discount wasen't applied the same way
after a couple phone calls....i finally talked to a cool supervisor...since Sprint changed my contract "technically" this happened in jan...for EVERYONE keep in mind
they will let you outta ur contract with NO ETF's - but only for sixty days
so if your on a family plan and have been looking to get out ...now is the time!!!
thank you to all the dev's for all ur hard work
but i'm gone...keep it up...ICS was getting really cool
i'm on the Fence either gettin the LG Spectrum or the new Nexus!!!! both neat little phone....back to Big RED
deuces!!!
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I've heard some bad things about the Nexus so good luck and hope you make the right decision.
August 20th, 2011?
Garden State Plaza in NJ, the Sprint store on 2nd floor over the food court!!! 30 days or less? Im still laughing my stomach hurts!
EDIT: Almost as funny as the hooker that claimed I dropped my s**t! My co-workers jumped all over that ho!!! He** with TEP, If I drop my ****, I will gladly give Sprint $630.00 as i dont like nicks in my ****!!! I would not even sell a forum member some crap I dropped. (Then again, I have dropped 1 phone in the last 14 years.................) "It looks like you dropped your phone?" Thats funny!
I ended up gettin the lg spectrum
Pretty neat phone....very nice screen...1.5ghz dual core
And its super light
Already rooted!!!
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Hmmmm.
I have 5 lines total(one is the airave because we don't have squat for signal.)
I get a local govt employee discount.
Hmmmm.
When did the 60 days start?
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We trying to get out too... Even with the airave signal still sucks the text issue been going on since last year and they have yet to resolve it...
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Don't blame you. Verizon is a better carrier. Can be more expensive, but better else wise. US Cellular is a regional carrier that shares Verizon's network and they have equal reception (no 4G though) in the areas I go with excellent family pricing and superb customer support. If it weren't for that, I'd be back with VZW.
It happened in jan....u.get sixty.days
My bill cycle was on the 21st...so i had until march 21st to cancel without a ETF
As far as i.know anyone with a.family plan has this available
Help spread the werd..F You Sprint!!!!
They are.tryin.to keep this hush hush
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Ps i had three lines plus a airave
Now is ur chance people
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Akilldema said:
Don't blame you. Verizon is a better carrier. Can be more expensive, but better else wise. US Cellular is a regional carrier that shares Verizon's network and they have equal reception (no 4G though) in the areas I go with excellent family pricing and superb customer support. If it weren't for that, I'd be back with VZW.
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My feelings exactly! I really only miss VZW's network, but nothing and I mean nothing else.
I'm looking at the coverage map, and good grief, I am missing out! 3G/4G extended.
Ya the REAL 4g is amazing
It makes a big difference
I got a discount so my place is.bout the same...also veizon is runni.g a speacial on the data plans and.doubling the service.at the same price
Only thing that sucks.right now for this phone "spectrum" is xda doesnt.even.have a.thread for it
I found root for it....super super easy to root it
Got rid.of.all the bloat...waiting for them.to put ICS ...on this dual 1.5 ghz bad boy!!!
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lucidvtec said:
I ended up gettin the lg spectrum
Pretty neat phone....very nice screen...1.5ghz dual core
And its super light
Already rooted!!!
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Yea...but will it blow up the Death Star? I think not.
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It was possible in the beta....they took it out for liability reasons ..lol
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Yea...but will it blow up the Death Star? I think not.
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It was possible in the beta....they took it out for liability reasons ..lol
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All in all how do you feel about the phone transition?
Compare and contrast if you still lurk these forums would love to hear about it
Need the dirty....
Also, did you refer to this webpage? http://now.sprint.com/invoiceupdate/?INTCID=TSC:MyS:ICP:BillP:020112
So i ditched the spectrum due to no development and it didnt even have its own forum
Picked up the razr.. loving it
Running the eclipse rom 1.3. For bout 2 weeks now. No issues everything works.. so fast smooth and a good lookin phone to boot!!!
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Sorry to hear. Ain't just sprint though. Theyre all the same, sprint, att, verizon, etc.

3d sadness

I find it sad that HTC is giving up on 3d. Yes it was a toy, but one I paid for. They never really got behind the phone. They had that one terrible bubble 3d movie, but that was it. I thought we would at least see a 3d gallery.
Heck we are not even going to see the full blown HTC evo lte. Where is our new quad processor, that our oversees HTC brothers and sisters are getting?
There was never even any 4G in my city (one of the largest in South Florida) and I'm sure we are 2-3 years from lte ever being turned on. So thanks sprint and HTC. What a bad partnership it turned out to be for me.
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Do some research on the quad vs the krait
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Tegra doesn't play nice with LTE or cmda can't remember that's why we aren't getting the tegra chipset.
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babyschmoof said:
I find it sad that HTC is giving up on 3d. Yes it was a toy, but one I paid for. They never really got behind the phone. They had that one terrible bubble 3d movie, but that was it. I thought we would at least see a 3d gallery.
Heck we are not even going to see the full blown HTC evo lte. Where is our new quad processor, that our oversees HTC brothers and sisters are getting?
There was never even any 4G in my city (one of the largest in South Florida) and I'm sure we are 2-3 years from lte ever being turned on. So thanks sprint and HTC. What a bad partnership it turned out to be for me.
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Lol I am in TN and don't have 4G never have.. So I have the same feeling about LTE and that 10 dollar fee thing is kinda a joke.. Would be nice if Sprint would let us trade in our phones and get a sweet deal on a LTE one since our phones will be outta date soon .. Kinda bummer too all the folks who jumped into another 2 years and will be stuck with a older phone if no one knew that LTE was coming .. Lol.
Along with HTC ICS for the 3D will probably never see any more updates since they are coming out with that new Evo phone.. My guess is the 3D will be dropped on the **** list lol. Seen 3 new LTE phones on Sprints site for pre order.. Anyway's I will be stickin with the 3D for another year But hopefully things will still be poppin over in the threads
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Tegra doesn't play nice with LTE or cmda can't remember that's why we aren't getting the tegra chipset.
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Nice to know I guess. Still sucks to get a scaled down phone.
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Lol I am in TN and don't have 4G never have.. So I have the same feeling about LTE and that 10 dollar fee thing is kinda a joke.. Would be nice if Sprint would let us trade in our phones and get a sweet deal on a LTE one since our phones will be outta date soon .. Kinda bummer too all the folks who jumped into another 2 years and will be stuck with a older phone if no one knew that LTE was coming .. Lol.
Along with HTC ICS for the 3D will probably never see any more updates since they are coming out with that new Evo phone.. My guess is the 3D will be dropped on the **** list lol. Seen 3 new LTE phones on Sprints site for pre order.. Anyway's I will be stickin with the 3D for another year But hopefully things will still be poppin over in the threads
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Yea I wish they would give us all some sort of trade in swap since we all are gonna have incompatible phones. I was 1of those who signed for a new 2 year because my evo 4G Gave out on me in nov.
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kazp3r17 said:
Yea I wish they would give us all some sort of trade in swap since we all are gonna have incompatible phones. I was 1of those who signed for a new 2 year because my evo 4G Gave out on me in nov.
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I signed in DEC this past year lol. Didn't know about the LTE thing.. Since Sprint never seems to stick on top of things lol Like 4G never rolled out as fast as they kept saying back in the day..
Would be nice if they gave us a sweet trade in deal since they kinda swapped around on the contract with LTE and dropping support on the older ones.. Kinda sucks since we can't sell our phones to make some profit to buy something new .. Due to LTE ...
I guess you and I will be stickin to the threads for awhile lol
When LTE comes out (either frequency), don't expect the 4G on your WiMAX phones not to work. Sprint plans on keeping WiMAX around (except no more new phones) for legacy phones still running the technology. For a good bit of time at least, until a majority moves to LTE.
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When LTE comes out (either frequency), don't expect the 4G on your WiMAX phones not to work. Sprint plans on keeping WiMAX around (except no more new phones) for legacy phones still running the technology. For a good bit of time at least, until a majority moves to LTE.
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That's what I read.. But unless someone wants older software and what not think the lot of us that are still in contract will be stuck with em
to be honest both the evo 3d and sensation have enoumous potential that is yet to be unleashed. with the ice cream sandwhich update the sensation is about 50% faster especially gpu performance. the evo 3d and sensation however were fails for htc and it is evident as they are really cheap to buy now whether outright or plan.
I find it sad that HTC is giving up on 3d.
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Who says they are giving up on it?
I thought we would at least see a 3d gallery.
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The gallery does work in 3d.....
Heck we are not even going to see the full blown HTC evo lte.
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Huh? One, what does this have to do with the 3d? And two, the Sprint version is about twice as good as the normal Evo X.
Where is our new quad processor, that our oversees HTC brothers and sisters are getting?
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As others have stated, the dual core in this phone does as good, if not better, than the quad...
There was never even any 4G in my city (one of the largest in South Florida) and I'm sure we are 2-3 years from lte ever being turned on. So thanks sprint and HTC. What a bad partnership it turned out to be for me.
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Nobody forced you to buy a Sprint Wimax phone. You can easily switch to Verizon if you want.
sitlet said:
Who says they are giving up on it?
The gallery does work in 3d.....
Huh? One, what does this have to do with the 3d? And two, the Sprint version is about twice as good as the normal Evo X.
As others have stated, the dual core in this phone does as good, if not better, than the quad...
Nobody forced you to buy a Sprint Wimax phone. You can easily switch to Verizon if you want.
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Well, thanks Mr. Sitlet. There is always one in the crowd who goes against everything the thread is about.
I'm happy you're happy. I can now rest peacfully.
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Well, hanks Mr. Happy. There is always one in the crowd who goes against everything the thread is about.
I'm happy you're happy. Nuff said.
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It's all good man... Post isn't bad.. I understand what your post is about
well dan hasse said someone that that 10 fee was premium data free, knowing that our fones use up more data and if that fee wasn't instituted that we probably would be on a tier data plan now. as for the wimax it will be up thru 2015. It does suck, as Detroit only has 4g downtown, like 4sq miles or less lolz. But how many of us actually bought the fone thinking that wimax was the future or did we just want the new next hyped fone, that had 3d and good specs. Their not gonna do a trade in thing cuz there will always be a new big fone.... I really feel more sorry for ppl that got this fone thinking they will qualify for gold membership and have an upgrade every year, though I've heard many ppl argue just that and actually get a upgrade back... soo yawl can try that...
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well dan hasse said someone that that 10 fee was premium data free, knowing that our fones use up more data and if that fee wasn't instituted that we probably would be on a tier data plan now. as for the wimax it will be up thru 2015. It does suck, as Detroit only has 4g downtown, like 4sq miles or less lolz. But how many of us actually bought the fone thinking that wimax was the future or did we just want the new next hyped fone, that had 3d and good specs. Their not gonna do a trade in thing cuz there will always be a new big fone.... I really feel more sorry for ppl that got this fone thinking they will qualify for gold membership and have an upgrade every year, though I've heard many ppl argue just that and actually get a upgrade back... soo yawl can try that...
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Thought sprint stop that gold thing.. I was one for awhile until they stopped it
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Thought sprint stop that gold thing.. I was one for awhile until they stopped it
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they did stop it but they didn't stop it before ppl got the evo 3d but they canceled it before the gold membership period and left ppl stuck, kinda, but like I said I've heard ppl argue that and get an upgrade
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they did stop it but they didn't stop it before ppl got the evo 3d but they canceled it before the gold membership period and left ppl stuck, kinda, but like I said I've heard ppl argue that and get an upgrade
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Well hopefully it works for some folks I am not going that route will just lurk the 3D threads.. Keep some roms flowing
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Well hopefully it works for some folks I am not going that route will just lurk the 3D threads.. Keep some roms flowing
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honestly I wouldn't be in such a rush to get the Evo One but my 3d phone, ppl can't barely hear me, they say I sound muffled at times, and I know it's the fone :-( I just love the fact of having a fone everyone can hear me on again!
Well, I am gonna nab the new evo for sure! Coming from an Evo 3d, that was a pain for devs to root, the new one will be much easier to work with.
As far as LTE, I'm not holding my breath... in Vegas I can't even find a date for launch. I'm guessing late 2013? Also, they call the $10 fee a smartphone fee now. Go figure?
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Well, I am gonna nab the new evo for sure! Coming from an Evo 3d, that was a pain for devs to root, the new one will be much easier to work with.
As far as LTE, I'm not holding my breath... in Vegas I can't even find a date for launch. I'm guessing late 2013? Also, they call the $10 fee a smartphone fee now. Go figure?
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just being devils advocate but how do u know that it will be easier to root

Well, now we know why LTE rollout is slow.

According to Sprint conference call and Engedget, it's BIRDS! Kind of makes me wonder why Verizon or AT&T never had that problem.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sprint-lte-delay-birds/
lol angry birds
try telling robert at s4gru.com that the LTE rollout is going slow, he'll explain why you are wrong
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lol angry birds
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"We wouldn't advise you go with a stick trying to poke the nests from the sites -- we suspect the Humane Association is on the lookout for angry nerds."
arozer said:
"We wouldn't advise you go with a stick trying to poke the nests from the sites -- we suspect the Humane Association is on the lookout for angry nerds."
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Death to the birds!
Meanee said:
According to Sprint conference call and Engedget, it's BIRDS! Kind of makes me wonder why Verizon or AT&T never had that problem.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/sprint-lte-delay-birds/
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They do - they just disagree with the government on how impacting millions of bird deaths are. This was Verizon's response to the FCC on a similar issue.
Wow, Engadget is usually wrong but way off this time..
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waterbound said:
Wow, Engadget is usually wrong but way off this time..
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How can Engadget get it wrong if it came straight from Sprint?
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I am sure it was a small comment and now the media is talking it, putting their spin on it and running with it.
I used to see birds nest and such all the time when we were climbing. Did it impact our job? Nope. Just did what we had to do, got the job done, climbed down, and got paid. No way was I going to let a bird nest stop me from getting paid. Everyone was like that, all about getting paid for that day and the climb.
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digiblur said:
I am sure it was a small comment and now the media is talking it, putting their spin on it and running with it.
I used to see birds nest and such all the time when we were climbing. Did it impact our job? Nope. Just did what we had to do, got the job done, climbed down, and got paid. No way was I going to let a bird nest stop me from getting paid. Everyone was like that, all about getting paid for that day and the climb.
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Takes a man to get the job done. Aha feed your family!
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What's their excuse as to why WiMAX wasn't deployed as fast? My OG Evo never even saw the 4G signal. I'm betting that by the time my area sees 4G, the successor to the 4G LTE will be out. It sure would be nice of Sprint to send me all my $10 monthly payments back for never connecting to 4G on the OG Evo. One can dream though.
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What's their excuse as to why WiMAX wasn't deployed as fast? My OG Evo never even saw the 4G signal. I'm betting that by the time my area sees 4G, the successor to the 4G LTE will be out. It sure would be nice of Sprint to send me all my $10 monthly payments back for never connecting to 4G on the OG Evo. One can dream though.
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I hate saying this as it seems silly at this point but no matter what people presented it as (media consumers and other retailers) Sprint never listed the $10 fee as a 4g fee. The mistake they made was not charging all web enabled devices which they later corrected. Even with that fee the plans are still cheaper.
And if no one has told you...wimax is no longer in deployment and will be non existing in a few years
I never had wimax...most likely won't have late at my home. I pay for home internet service and use wifi
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guitarman584 said:
What's their excuse as to why WiMAX wasn't deployed as fast? My OG Evo never even saw the 4G signal. I'm betting that by the time my area sees 4G, the successor to the 4G LTE will be out. It sure would be nice of Sprint to send me all my $10 monthly payments back for never connecting to 4G on the OG Evo. One can dream though.
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Clearwire....thats the excuse why WiMax wasn't deployed...yes sprint owns majority stake of them but thats different than actually making the companies day-to-day decisions...
As for the bird reference...honestly i have no idea why sprint's PR person would even mention that...willing to bet someone got told to go home early on that one. lol

[Q] Might need to leave Sprint need some advice.

So, I'm moving to a Sprint dead zone and thinking about switching to att. The price will be close to the same, but with only 4gb of data which doesn't mean much because I get crap for 3g and will never see 4g. Anyone have any luck getting out of contract for crappy service? I would probably get the sgs3, because the one x doesn't have an sd card slot, unless there is something better coming soon to att.
I know I could get an airrave, but that would still leave my phone useless out in the yard and probably in parts of my house as well and since I'm always on my phone I don't want to deal with crap service at my house. Any tips, suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Airwave
Hey, just go talk time them and tell them that u are moved ng to a dead zone and you will switch to at&t if they don't help u. Ask for an Airwave for your house. It is like a mini tower.
In a lot of cases they offer it as an incentive to stay, complained for my cousin since she hates dealing with sprint and got one free of charge awhile back
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In a lot of cases they offer it as an incentive to stay, complained for my cousin since she hates dealing with sprint and got one free of charge awhile back
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All I did was ask for an airave and they sent me one free
What's the range on an airrave, because I have six acres and want to use my phone in the yard if necessary?
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durandetto said:
What's the range on an airrave, because I have six acres and want to use my phone in the yard if necessary?
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If I remember correctly it's 4000-5000 sqft correct me if I'm wrong
5000 sounds about right. Which is only about 30-50 feet away. With mine i lose service just after walking out the front door. If you need it for 6 acres, Sprint won't work for you.
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That's what I was afraid of. Now its time to see if sprint will let me go without ETFs. Anyone with suggestions on how to approach them with this request? I just wish the One X had expandable memory then my phone choice would be easy.
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Well, I sent an email. I guess we'll see how it goes.
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So this is the bs generic response I got.
Hi Ted,
Thank you for your email; Sprint appreciates your patronage and understands your concerns. Because yours is a densely populated area, Sprint is in the midst of a national revitalization, expansion, and enhancement of existing services to increase your area capacity, which will implement Sprint’s Network Vision. In and around your area, any coverage challenges would be the result of construction, and engineering calibration. As with any construction project material, man-power, government regulation, community involvement, environmental concerns, and even the weather can affect completion times. This project is being completed as fast and safe as possible. The below links provide information on the enhancements Sprint is making.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html? id16=network%20vision
http://network.sprint.com/? id16=network%20vision
Derek Ross
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durandetto said:
That's what I was afraid of. Now its time to see if sprint will let me go without ETFs. Anyone with suggestions on how to approach them with this request? I just wish the One X had expandable memory then my phone choice would be easy.
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What I've read is by force roaming and eating up gigs worth of data will make them want to drop you. That or wait for a change in the contract that might have an "adverse affect" like a price increase. I'm looking for loopholes myself.. Best of luck to you!
On a side note if you do get out of your contract and head to AT&T, they've announced the HTC One X+ which is an upgrade over the One X. I'd look into that before settling on the SGSIII
I berated a Sprint rep just yes and now they've flipped the switch on 4g in my area. I'm not going anywhere lol. Not like my rant had anything to do with it, it was perfect timing

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