I'm sure someone is working on doing it, but any idea on the status of root and soff without HTC unlock tool? I read that HTC logs if u use their tool and that if u try to put it back it'll say relocked therefor voiding everything. With Verizon bring as crappy as they are with root, I don't want some bs issue unrelated to root that could be fixed by warrenty.
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I was under the impression that there is no way to currently set Rezounds that have S-ON to S-OFF. If that's just been discovered, I'm interested in the instructions as I've already unlocked the bootloader and rooted it.
I'm just not a fan of the unlock tool mainly. I have the inc2 and used revolutionary... Due for an upgrade and really want the rezound, but don't want Verizon to have any more leverage on me more than they already do. They complain about everything and anything if its not their way..
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No dev s-off at this point. Just have to keep checking. Man,it's a great phone stock.
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I am waiting for it still. Works fine stock.
jbh00jh said:
No dev s-off at this point. Just have to keep checking. Man,it's a great phone stock.
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How overloaded is it with vzw bloat because this was rediculous
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faehsemc said:
How overloaded is it with vzw bloat because this was rediculous
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You can temp root and get rid of bloat without unlocking it using CleanTool.
Ahh sweet. That's good to know. That was my biggest complaint.
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Completely stock this phone has more speed,memory, and less lagg than any of my rooted phones. The bloatware is not a factor. I don't use it so I don't see it on the phone. It will get deleted when I get s-off.
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why not unlock it now and remove it yourself?
jbh00jh said:
Completely stock this phone has more speed,memory, and less lagg than any of my rooted phones. The bloatware is not a factor. I don't use it so I don't see it on the phone. It will get deleted when I get s-off.
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my problem with that is a lot of the bloatware caches in the memory eating up resources when it doesn't need to.
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You can temp root and get rid of bloat without unlocking it using CleanTool.
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Er... If you can temp root, what is to stop you from copying the su and superuser.apk files at that point to gain perm root in the way that you do for most other phones?
Perm root was achieved for the phone quite some time ago. The method you mentioned was not possible because the files we re-written when the device was rebooted.
BTW - Holy Thread Resurrections Batman!
Once you have s-off you can flash back to stock and write the security flag and they will never know that it was once unlocked and rooted. Key is getting s-off so your bootloader is relocked.
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Verizon won't know, but i'm told they don't care. HTC will know because they have records of you doing it in the first place.
So if you don't flash a new image on it it actively deletes the su/superuser files? Lame!
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pmterp said:
Perm root was achieved for the phone quite some time ago. The method you mentioned was not possible because the files we re-written when the device was rebooted.
BTW - Holy Thread Resurrections Batman!
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Lol I know! I was reading and then I realized that this was from January and I was like :O.
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whats the big deal? it all still applies.
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Has anyone tried to root their phone after installing this update? Is there an equivalent update for rooted phones?
I read in another thread that someone tried and revolutionary does NOT work (yet) with Hboot 1.50.
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Has anyone tried to root their phone after installing this update? Is there an equivalent update for rooted phones?
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No it won't work yet.
Yes there are equivalent updates for rooted phones. Check the first couple pages in the dev section and you should find them.
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They also said themselves not to take the update. At least that is what I remember seeing.
Still don't understand why ppl are using htcs unlock. Alpharevs way is easy, n doesn't void warranty. From what I've read its tough to install a recovery and basically screws you.
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motoelliot said:
Still don't understand why ppl are using htcs unlock. Alpharevs way is easy, n doesn't void warranty. From what I've read its tough to install a recovery and basically screws you.
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Well from the legal standing alpharevs does void warranty just harder to tell. Another reason to figure this out is soon all new evo 3ds sold will already have the hboot 1.50. Most be something otherwise it would be lame as hell to have htc unlock a bootloader that does nothing.
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Htc's method needs to stop being compared to rev's method... Htc only unlocked it. Meaning that the devs will still need to come up with the method for the rest. (s-off and the rest) think of it like the old evo unlocked but still needed dev work for soff and recovery...
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Just seen jcase post that the rezound is on the unlock bootloader list on htcdev.com and he don't know if its a accident or what so you need to jump on it asap Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Though Unlisted, HTC Rezound Unlockable via HTCDev Tools http://bit.ly/tm4HPD (Phandroid article)
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Just did mine.
What is this? Exactly.. can someone elaborate ? Is that unlocked bootloader thing for real?
You guys need to tell everyone if they use the HTC unlock then HTC has their phone info any can deny warranty repairs to their phones.
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siiiiiiiick.
let's get some s-offy goodness!
woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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woah, wait.....Im not new to flashing and modding, but I am very new to the HTC scene. Do we individually have to unlock the bootloader ourselves? Or is it something the devs do? If we (invidually) dont unlock today do you think that HTC will stop letting us tomorrow? I just dont want to kill my phone.
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We individually unlock it. It's super easy. The instructions gives you screen shots of what to do. I just unlocked mine. Took about 5-10 minutes. I'm sure it will be available tomorrow but I didn't waste any time.
Tough to tell whether HTC did this on purpose or not. They very well might pull it later after they realize it/Verizon *****es them out.
I would at least go get the unlock token now, even if you don't want to use it right now.
Jason
I'll just wait for the devs to set it up where I don't have to give my phone info to vzw and htc. Might need my warranty some day.
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Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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JasonJoel said:
Doesn't void your warranty to just get the unlock token... Only after you install it. But whatever.
Jason
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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How do you get the unlock token? do you have to register or what?
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http://www.htcdev.com/
Click on Unlock Bootloader. Follow directions. If you don't want to install the token, stop at the point that it emails you the token.
Jason
alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This is what I would love to know
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jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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alcantarvf said:
Does this mean that s-off will be easier now? Or is this still far away?
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This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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JBO1018 said:
This htcdev.com unlock will allow you to flash custom ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. Sadly radios, hboot/bootloader, and I believe splash screens are a no go. Also, some things must be flashed via fastboot as opposed to recovery. (ie kernels) Considering this phone has some new security tricks not seen before its an ok trade while you wait for s-off IMO. I don't know if it will bring s-off any closer but I doubt it. I can't speak to the warranty situation but I would advise reading all the terms and conditions before proceeding. However consider this.....rooting your phone technically voids your warranty....
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So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Well...........
jbh00jh said:
I just don't see the rush, don't even have s-off or recovery yet.
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Actually I installed Amon_ra recovery a bit ago, and did a full NAND backup.
bokechukwu1 said:
So can we get perm root with this at least or no? Been waiting to flash some fonts on this thing thanks.
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Yes perm root is as easy as flashing a recovery then using the recovery to flash the su and busybox binary. Then install superuser from the market and bam permanent root. (or just wait till someone makes a flashable package that will do all that for you.)
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These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
this is very hardware specific and an epic hw design fail by htc.... :-(
anyway - who will short his phone first? ;-D
Definitely looks pretty sketchy. Lol.
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Beach_Head said:
These guys managed to get S-OFF on a few HTC phones by shorting something (That's what it seems to me.) in the chipset...
S-OFF via JuopunutBear Tool
If this could be made to work for us, it'd be a slap in the face for Moto...
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I've owned mostly HTC phones. That's a company that listens to it's customer's. Period.
If you have an HTC Phone, you've got custom Kernels period. The development community is second to none.
That's why i so surprised to come here with my Razr to find out theres..not much.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't S-Off simply allow you root access? And can't we already do that with software? There's no way I'll be tearing apart my phone and start shorting things out just to get it rooted.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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S-Off means unlocked bootloader.
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Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
tCizler said:
Not true. My Rezound has an unlocked boot loader with s-on. S-off is unrestricted access to all partitions of the phone. It's "security/signature" - off, something like that.
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Exactly...S-Off allows one to fall back to an older radio and flash only the radio if, for instance, HTC or the carrier pushes a new OTA that has a new radio and makes your phone get a worse signal than before. W/out S-Off you can't just flash back so easily.
ETA: Re-reading my comment makes it seem as that's only S-Off can do but like quoted above it also allows you to flash stuff not officially signed by HTC. Prior to S-Off it was virtually impossible to brick a Rezound. W/ S-Off, you can easily brick a phone permanently.
amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
romdroid. said:
amazing. If I recall something similar was done to xbox 360 JTAG.
I am confident some day someone will unlock those Motorola bootloaders...
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Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Sexywacko said:
Its a shame the bootloader cant be unlocked like on the atrix
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Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
romdroid. said:
Well if I remember Motorola released a leak where the update gave unlock bootloader so there is still some hope, correct me if I am wrong
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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On the atrix there was a fuse that was burnt to bypass the bootloader. Or something along those lines. Although when i got rid of the atrix all of the development kicked off. Lol
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Haha alright that always happen, when you get rid of something then developers start support it. I can feel you
Anyone heard of any upcoming or progress exploits from any devs?
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None yet
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HTC dev unlock is the perfect solution for the vast majority of users. I doubt anyone is spending any time trying to figure out a workaround. There's just no need for it
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Agree ^ Finding an exploid takes alot of time and effort. All the things that can be done when S-off can also be done with the HTC dev unlock.
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Anyone heard of any upcoming or progress exploits from any devs?
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That would be just a wasted effort. Waiting on a different unlock just so your warranty with HTC won't be voided is nonsense. In my lifetime i never, ever used a manufacturer warranty on a cellphone when most people carry insurance.
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Admittedly, it would be a waste of time, but it's not completely absurd to this that some people may still want an unlocked bootloader without HTCDev.
In my case, I got my phone set up the way that I wanted it before regaw_leinad got his rooter finished and before flashable modswere out. As of now, I don't want to go through HTCDev unlock and lose my non-backed up data. I didn't wait on the Regaw rooter (or unlock it myself) because I didn't want a new ROM on it anytime soon. Now that flashable mods are out, I wish that I would have unlocked then.
All of that said, I don't consider finding another exploit a priority. Devs shouldn't worry about it when it's done for them.
I'll bite the bullet and unlock it eventually.
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Admittedly, it would be a waste of time, but it's not completely absurd to this that some people may still want an unlocked bootloader without HTCDev.
In my case, I got my phone set up the way that I wanted it before regaw_leinad got his rooter finished and before flashable modswere out. As of now, I don't want to go through HTCDev unlock and lose my non-backed up data. I didn't wait on the Regaw rooter (or unlock it myself) because I didn't want a new ROM on it anytime soon. Now that flashable mods are out, I wish that I would have unlocked then.
All of that said, I don't consider finding another exploit a priority. Devs shouldn't worry about it when it's done for them.
I'll bite the bullet and unlock it eventually.
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Why not run tb to back up all your saved data, unlock, then use tb to restore it all?
I'm not saying that this is your solution but there may be light at the end of the tunnel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980
[BL] Unlock without HTCDEV
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The HTC Dev unlock method for the EVO3D was balls. It didn't do the trick and you had to spoof everything through Fastboot (cabled into your computer). That is a much more technical route and more dangerous for noobs. Also the recovery put on didn't always stick.
This time however with the E4GLTE the HTC Dev unlock is great and has provided everything you need to get rooted. There is a nice automated .exe (one single download) that will do the entire process for you. Takes about 10 minutes. Pretty sweet and you even get the super user apps pushed etc.
I've been kinda hesitant to unlock because of the warranty void, but a method like 18th.abn's method makes this noob even MORE hesitant! Unlocking my original evo 4g made this noob very nervous a couple years ago, but I love flashing roms and would really like to see what kind of performance can be unleashed on my new evolte...
There is also a one click method available now.
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Why not run tb to back up all your saved data, unlock, then use tb to restore it all?
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Things like contact linking are hard to backup. That's probably what I will end up doing eventually, though.
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Things like contact linking are hard to backup. That's probably what I will end up doing eventually, though.
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Not if you use google to sync. Or even lookout security.
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LazyPanda
Suddenly I'm really glad that I was patient enough for an unlock method besides HTCDev.
S-OFF with LazyPanda
Greetings all
When the LTE came out, root was achieved the following day, how long do you all think before we have root for the new ONE on the hoorizon, same thing for a ROM, how long will ut take before we see the first ROM?
Go here... All you need to know...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38933080
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It has already been rooted. So I think the question should be "when will we have S-OFF?".
leerage said:
It has already been rooted. So I think the question should be "when will we have S-OFF?".
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Yep S-off is the real question. I would bet by the time it reaches the US MoDaCo or another dev would have S-off already.
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It is also only rooted by doing HTC Dev Unlock, there still is no root without doing the dev unlock and no S-OFF. Both of which I would prefer over dev unlocking. If I could get root without dev unlocking that would tide me over for quite awhile as they figure out S-OFF so I could at least get some apps transferred with data, greenfiy to save battery, ad blocker, and wifi tether.
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It is also only rooted by doing HTC Dev Unlock, there still is no root without doing the dev unlock and no S-OFF. Both of which I would prefer over dev unlocking. If I could get root without dev unlocking that would tide me over for quite awhile as they figure out S-OFF so I could at least get some apps transferred with data, greenfiy to save battery, ad blocker, and wifi tether.
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Judging from Jcase's tweet I'm presuming he gained root without HTC Dev Unlock.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/306762727785918466
indiscriminant said:
It is also only rooted by doing HTC Dev Unlock, there still is no root without doing the dev unlock and no S-OFF. Both of which I would prefer over dev unlocking. If I could get root without dev unlocking that would tide me over for quite awhile as they figure out S-OFF so I could at least get some apps transferred with data, greenfiy to save battery, ad blocker, and wifi tether.
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All of which you can do with HTC Dev unlock.
I prefer to not deal with the HTC Dev Unlock based on the added steps/difficulties that people have to deal with on our EVO LTEs. I also don't like registering my device that it is unlocked with the manufacturer, it is none of their business if I do it and shouldn't effect my warranty for hardware issues.
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Judging from Jcase's tweet I'm presuming he gained root without HTC Dev Unlock.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/306762727785918466
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Good find. And I bet you're right, cuz there would be no reason to boast/announce if root was simply Gaines via htcdev.
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Although that makes logical sense there is no rooting without htc unlock listed in the one forums so I am not sure that it does exist yet.
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Although that makes logical sense there is no rooting without htc unlock listed in the one forums so I am not sure that it does exist yet.
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Just mean its not released to everyone. Might not be bug free yet. Same thing happened with the evo 4g lte.
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