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its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
GAME OVER!
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
ohh okay drupad MAY ASWEL HAVE A GO
drupad2drupad said:
I'm onto something, but it's not tested on any TG01. Trying to get hands on one, to test it, if it works, you might have a new ROM and may be a new theme to play with
No promises though!
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You need a tg01? i can test it for you...
mee too... i can test
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
its verry quiet in this forum i can here my righting echo is any developers developing at the moment and hows the wp7 by nokser doing? is there any new roms under developement or is this it for the tg01?
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
I have moved to android myself, still have the TG01 at the moment, but i guess i will be selling it soon enough.
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You never know, maybe there will be another rom release, but its pretty much game over for TG01 since Miro had all his work stolen along with his laptop.
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Why none of You will continue Miro work ? He said His rom was not protected and I guess He would not mind if anybody did it.
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Wow, was that a tumble weed just crossed my path?
Just dropped in to see how it's going in here, apparently it's not going anywhere any more.
I know that was a bit of a troll statement but I just can't believe how quiet it is.
Wow, it really is quiet here! Haven't been around for a while!
I still have a TG01 which i will probabley keep... and if there are any new ROMs, themes etc, i can always be a beta tester
I never use my TG01 now; the last time i swithced it on was like 3 weeks ago! I got too many phones now haha!
Will probably need to start selling some!
yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
nikola92 said:
yoo 5 phones in home :S is driving me crazy but tg01 is allways on at me and ofc sgs2, i use tg01 as main phone and sgs2 as dvd, ubuntu, music player, on my LCD tv and bluetooth mouse
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Nice! Wow, you still prefer your tg01 to sgs2????
I tend to use my desire s more than sgs2. I don't mod my sgs2..
I use my desire s as a main phone, because the battery life last me really long! i may consider selling my sgs...
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yea, the sgs2 is to much pimped phone, not really usefull as phone, but i found him a use I have tg01 for longer time then sgs2 and i got used to it, so and i dislike android. My biggest hope is to see wp7 to tg01, but as i see, no can do sir, that's why i am selling the tg01 and buying iphone or Samsung Omnia7.
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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Yeh hahah it is definitely a lot harder to understand how to mod/flash roms on Android then tg01!
The tg01 was a great device and served me well for 12 months. It also helped me adapt to big screen phones aswell, and a real bargain when I got it!
I still do prefer wm in 1 or 2 aspects to Android though!
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
dont bother with the iphone there a waste of money and space i suppose the iphone4 aint that bad but i like windows mobile personally because theres so much to personalise and do on them its endless. also android and iphone apps are cheasy and pointless windows mobile is a clear winner. if i was you id go with a htc hd2. android, wp7 and wm6.5 are all available on the hd2. meanwhile keep a tg01 just in case a mirracle happends and we get a exelent clean rom
Miracle i wait but hope is losing slowlly the fack i still have is the wp7 next phone will definetlly have wp7 on it, i had 2 HTC HD2 but i dislike HTC soo badlly, i had for a short period a lot of HTC's first HTC HD2 i got when it got in sale and i had miserable 8-12 hours battery life time with allmost no use at all, screen is a lot worse on HD2 then on tg01 the capacitive screen doesn't mean much to me. I love phones all phones that aren't over-priced... iphone is one of them but i can get one very cheap, i need phone for music i have sgs2 as my app toy and thats more than enough if tg01 had 3,5mm jack i wouldn't sell it never!! Till he is dead or me
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The number of apps on android is huge, but the quality of the apps for windows mobile is much more impressive, at least i think so. Android software seems very fragmented, no standards, windows mobile and most of the apps for it are easy to navigate due to the basic interface.
But i feel now for me is the time to move to android, apps are entering the market every day, and they are updated quite often, its a difficult decision to sell my TG01.
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True. But now WM is dead there is no more personilization with new apps. I tried almost all wm main apps adwell. When I first got Android I was like wow! Things are similiar here, like HTC sense for android. . I'm always flashing latest versions etc. It's like WM. Only now I don't have to worry about optimizations (FREE RAM, ROM, BUGS ETC) , as sense is built for my desire s. With our tg01 sense roms there were always bugs with every Rom in sense. (E.g-we.never fixed the home button for touuchflo/sense 2.5)
The community also. HTC devices always have the best support here..
I don't really like non HTC android devices.. the roms don't have sensr, so flashing roms are just improvements not much visual or UI changes.
For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
But on HTC sense, there is always a new version coming up very often, just like the new leaked sense 3.5 Rom.
Android is still a huge leap forward from WM / WP7 imo though
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jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
yeahh true. and yeahh if the tg01 had a 3.5mm headphone jack that would be quality. to be honnest theres nothing really thats caught my eye yet so im just hanging around with a tg01 with mirom 8cfc rom. just out of interest nikola what rom are you using on your tg01?
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The same, have tryed the fxdj lattest ROM it is good to, but i don't have money for SPB shell so i stick with sense
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For example. Nikola, your sgs2 Rom, cm7, what real visual benifits do u have over stock? apart from adw launcher?This is why my sgs2 is on stock. The UI is more or less the same.
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Well I forgot to change signature i have been using for a while a Sensation ROM by crysis it have the touch wiz and i have Metro UI launcher as well as SPB shell 1.1.0
So guys i belive you all have heard about new windows 8 for PC but i heard that Microsoft will release an ARM version for smartphone devices and tablets, i think that we have the chance since thay say taha windows mobile phones that where latest in the winmo series would be suitablle to run windows 8. Any comment on this, true, false, posssible, or not?
time will tell nikola, i did hear that windows 8 will be alot easier to port than wp7, but, like i say time will tell
yea shure, time does everything, i think that win 8 would be portable to any device since there are some guys on sgs2 forum telling the same thing about porting it.
Hi there, you mean that there are guys with sgs2 trying to port it on Win 8? :-o now that's interesting
yea, there is a guy that have windows me on sgs2 so he think it will be peace of cake to make sgs2 run win 8. But a lot of people are like: we have android that is better. I say no. Win8 or wp7 are the simpliest imagined os's, like iOS. Android is candy eye, that is the way and have most powerfull machines runing it. So it is my opinion just.
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yea, there is a guy that have windows me on sgs2 so he think it will be peace of cake to make sgs2 run win 8. But a lot of people are like: we have android that is better. I say no. Win8 or wp7 are the simpliest imagined os's, like iOS. Android is candy eye, that is the way and have most powerfull machines runing it. So it is my opinion just.
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False IMO. Why would Microsoft want to do that? If anything, they would be loosing profits ,as no one would buy their new hardware with the native OS.
Also this forum is empty.... There are no current devs anymore. Sorry to say,but I doubt anything more for the tg01.
What happened to Nokser's promise ?
IMO, i think Android is by far, the Best OS ever! So much it can do! Windows Mobile was great and taught me about roms etc... I would like to thank all the devs who made it a worthwhile expierence here!
But things have changed , and I'm really glad I made the switch to Android .
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Idk ms says that the ARM version of win 8 will be most suitable for windows mobile devices and tablets! Thats the official, and about win8 ptoject for sgs2 it is unofficial, like most stuff here...
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Idk ms says that the ARM version of win 8 will be most suitable for windows mobile devices and tablets! Thats the official, and about win8 ptoject for sgs2 it is unofficial, like most stuff here...
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True, you got a point, but tell me, who is going to port win8 for us?
There are no devs here anymore.
To port an OS requires many devs.
Android is the easiest OS to port (due to open source nature )
Yet we don't have a functional full working port.
Wp7 project was complete rubbish by Nokser. He called for donations, promised a release, yet failed to deliver.
He took the money and left.
IMO, I think your best bet is to stick with the sgs2. The forums are like 100 Times bigger than here, so there will be much more dev progress. Soon there may ba another OS port for us there, and we can choose to switch platform. Also the hardware of the sgs is far superior to run the New OS requirements .
Do you not prefer capacitive touch lol?
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hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
nikola92 said:
hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
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Hi Nikola why you want to sell it?
I just buy a "new" TG01 and i can tell you that the price for such a piece is very good and that there are PNA's in the market that are a lot more slower and much more expensive.
So i think TG will never become "A piece of junk"!
You will always have a god device for test, navigation...! Men's stuff!
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nikola92 said:
hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
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I forgot to ask!
What do you mean by : " i allmost got wp7"
How did you tryed to install wp7?
Thank's for answer.
Well on some strange way via some tsnand.exe for some japnesse people that tryed the same, it writes dirctly to nand and read from nand and erase from it but i never could establish good connection with my PC since i had some wierd version of win 7. Well i am gonna sell it cuz for that money i get i can by second hand Samsung Omnia 7 8 Gb version(with little more money).
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Well on some strange way via some tsnand.exe for some japnesse people that tryed the same, it writes dirctly to nand and read from nand and erase from it but i never could establish good connection with my PC since i had some wierd version of win 7. Well i am gonna sell it cuz for that money i get i can by second hand Samsung Omnia 7 8 Gb version(with little more money).
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What about your SGS2? You don't like it ??
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What about your SGS2? You don't like it ??
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hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
mirolg said:
hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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Haha
Really nice to see you again Miro! I did begin to worry about about you as I didn't see you around for months!
How are you man?
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Haha
Really nice to see you again Miro! I did begin to worry about about you as I didn't see you around for months!
How are you man?
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thank you, i´m fine.. also nice to see you, my friend! i needed a technology- break and have done more with the family and my job.
.... how were your exams? i hope good
mirolg said:
hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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I think that if you will ask an Android - hard core fan he will also say that Android is the best option!
True is that if you feel fine with a SO then you must stay with it!
I personaly like Android because is easy to use (I speak as a low end user) and have good games. But i like WM 6 because is so versatile! You could install on the same SO more skins and is very easy to set it.
I didn't use WP7 yet ! (but i think is similar with Android - user frendly)
And by the way is wrong to compare the resistive touch screen(like TG01) with capacitive touch screen (like Omnia 7). The capacitive touch screen is made for gentle handling!
mirolg said:
hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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true,true i do like SGS2 offcourse... I mean it is EPIC phone after all but the smooth and SIMPLE, i prefer simple OS , is the WP7. And i say here in my country people are brand maniacs Nokia, Apple, etc. I call that brainless, but there are some smart ones WELCOME BACK MIRLOG. Pozdrav iz Srbije
mirolg said:
thank you, i´m fine.. also nice to see you, my friend! i needed a technology- break and have done more with the family and my job.
.... how were your exams? i hope good
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Yeah! Hope its all well for you!
Yeah I did well in my exams, thanks for asking!!!
Nice to see you around! Maybe one day we will see each other again in our future devices forums
@Rila I do agree with you to some extent! But if you root your phone you can customize as much as Windows Mobile
@nikola92 true some people prefer WP7 to android, but if I were you wait for the WP7 version of the SGS2, its just around the corner
Nice to visit the TG01 forum once in a while! I hope the best for this great small forum
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olyloh6696 said:
Yeah! Hope its all well for you!
Yeah I did well in my exams, thanks for asking!!!
Nice to see you around! Maybe one day we will see each other again in our future devices forums
@Rila I do agree with you to some extent! But if you root your phone you can customize as much as Windows Mobile
@nikola92 true some people prefer WP7 to android, but if I were you wait for the WP7 version of the SGS2, its just around the corner
Nice to visit the TG01 forum once in a while! I hope the best for this great small forum
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would like to congratulate, my friend!
...Yes small community but the best. We all miss that in the other forums!
... The coming Android 4.5 "and 1280 x 720 resolution would already interested
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nikola92 said:
true,true i do like SGS2 offcourse... I mean it is EPIC phone after all but the smooth and SIMPLE, i prefer simple OS , is the WP7. And i say here in my country people are brand maniacs Nokia, Apple, etc. I call that brainless, but there are some smart ones WELCOME BACK MIRLOG. Pozdrav iz Srbije
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thank you, my friend! Really nice also to see you!
hi, just wanted to ask for opinions if changing to another OS, mozarts wp7, would be an upgrade from xperia x10.
anyone with wp7 i need help.
did you regret that you changed OS?? from android to wp7?
or is it a much better choice?
things to consider if i change to wp7:
1. applications.. i dont have an idea about the line up of apps for wp7
will it be as many and as fun as android apps?
2. battery life
3. smoothness of web browsing and overall interface.
THANKS
also:
are there also a lot of good free apps on the market??
or are there sites where we can download apps for free like in the android devices??
it would be of much help for me in deciding if i should switch to wp7
with your comments guys. thank you
WP7 (and now WP 7.5) is just amazing, more integrated and easy to use than other platoforms. Microsoft got in the game a few years later and that was not only a bad thing.. They could see all the disadvantages with iOS and Android before developing their new platform. WP7 is the most beautiful UI out there..
1. Applications are great but all essential ones are not yet released (like Skype, Spotify, etc). These are due to be released this fall though and more and the market place is growing very fast. The next six months will be very exciting.
2. Battery life is suprisingly good. Playing games, however, drains it quickly.
3. It is the smoothest experience out there.. Android is far behind..
If you like HTC, I would go for the Titan or Radar, though. They are the latest generation WP phones with a front facing camera..
Totally agree with the above post...I have tried many OSes, and I think WP7 is by far the best for me. Simplicity is the best factor, the apps may cost a little more (angry birds, for example) but at least I can try them all without paying for them.
A good site to search for apps is the wp7applist (here)
Mango 7.5 is certainly a big improvement on the earlier version.
Thank you for your quick responses friends . What about gba emulator? Do we also have gba emulator for wp7?
Is.the mozart a good phone?
Smoothness of.the ui.is.whats most important
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All WP7 phone has an extremely smooth UI. MUCH smoother than Andoird. WP7 does not have the same problems as Android there.. You can buy any WP7 phone with confidence.
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All WP7 phone has an extremely smooth UI. MUCH smoother than Andoird. WP7 does not have the same problems as Android there.. You can buy any WP7 phone with confidence.
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Okay thank you sir just one more thing for me to really buy the mozart. Are there emulator like for gameboy advance ?
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Okay thank you sir just one more thing for me to really buy the mozart. Are there emulator like for gameboy advance ?
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Seems like it, yes:
http://wp7lab.com/news/gameboy-emulator-wp7-warios-jewels/
yea but thats only Gameboy not gameboy advance.. i wont be able to play pokemon emerald anymore hahahaha
even tho id still go for the mozart. thank you sir!
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one more thing.
is mango officially out for mozart ??
Yes. The official Mango can be downloaded from the Development Forum. The public release through Zune should come this or next week (if you dont want to re-flash the phone yourself, even though it is really easy).
bought the phone an hour ago..
if i wait for the official mango release from zune..
will it wipe the files in my phone now??
Congratulations!! A backup will be automatically performed by Zune before the phone is updated to Mango. Then all data will be restored afterwards, so you can feel safe.
Hoping it will be out officially soon thanks for helping me find and avail this great and sexy phone..
Hmmm one more thing . Is it also possible to install apps from 4shared? I mean can I install apps .payable apps and then download it for free from some other site ?
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Hoping it will be out officially soon thanks for helping me find and avail this great and sexy phone..
Hmmm one more thing . Is it also possible to install apps from 4shared? I mean can I install apps .payable apps and then download it for free from some other site ?
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App are extremely cheap so I would recommend supporting the developers out there..
Just waiting for mango now
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Congratulations, it is really a sexy phone, i plan to keep it with me for a long period.
I also recommend supporting the developers
I advise you not to flash any hacked ROM, only the official ones.
You can try the Official HTC leaked ROM, it is very stable but you will lose your data.
If I wait for the official release will it not wipe my data now?
As mentioned earlier: It will preserve your data..
Thanks sir. I'm psyched about the mango update hop it comes really really soon
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Mango is only a week or two away now, unless you live in Taiwan and some other parts of Asia - where they have it already.
AT&T will start to role Mango out on the 27th Sept -
I'm from the Philippines
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hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
grtz
It will never happen. Two completely different systems. I'm coming from Android and I for one would not want to ruin this phone with putting Android on it. I find WP7 so much more modern and refreshing.
I do not miss force closes nor lag.
I'm not negative to the possibility. I'm just sure it's not possible.
Hi,
I don't think it will happen. Due to there not being that many developers for the lumia. I also thing most of the hardware could be used in android, Seeing as the HTC Desire S and the Sony Xperia Arc use the MSM8255 Snapdragon(but i could be wrong, I have only really started developing).
I just dont see any real advantage of running Android on the Lumia. It is already a great device. I could only see thing going downhill if you did. Your device would have alot of lag plus the lumia only has 512mb of ram. And everybody that has used android will tell you 512mb of ram is sufficiant but not enough to run smoothly or run any intense apps.
You could, but you'd have to ask Dark Forces Team and Cotulla to release either a port of MAGLDR or the source to it to modify the chain boot loader.
Something I'd love to see but doubt we will ever see. I personally just got a Lumia 800 and although it's a nice phone the software lapses too much and in too many places so back to Android I go...even if it is the newer Android which is skinned over and too customised!
As I know the bootloader of lumia is very secured and will not allow modifications like dualOS booting.
1. You are crazy.
2. People always want what they can't get.
Technically it is possible. We have already seen examples of porting Android to older WM devices, like HTC HD2, HTC Touch Cruise, but it involves a lot of work and knowledge in system hacking.
Once you have cracked bootloader you can boot whatever you want. All you need to do is to find a device with the same chipset already running Android and port it over. Of course there will be many driver problems like non working, BT, WiFi, camera etc, but hey, what did you expect.
I bet that there is the same question in Nexus forums - How can we port WP7 to Galaxy Nexus
If you want the Lumia with android, sell it and buy the Nokia N9
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/nokia-n9-spotted-running-ice-cream-sandwich-dual-boot-in-the-wo/
damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
surya467 said:
damn i should hav bouth the n9 :/
would hav been better...but i still love this baby..
about time till the OS is opened up for new features....
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Quintenn said:
hi , does enyone know if there will be a port from android to lumia ?
because that would be pretty cool , having te possibilit yto run android on this epic phone
i love WP7 but there arent that many awesome apps , so thats why i would love the possibility to run android
anywayz , have fun with your phone !
and i know this isnt Q&A but that forum doesnt exist yet so i post this Q here
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You're both crazy, why didn't you just go Android? Strange people?
Yeah I bought this phone to get rid of Andrpid myself. I'm so sick of it!
Why the hell would you want freakin' Android to run on a WP like this?? You're crazy, that's clear
Android only has negative sides, WP is refreshing and smooth. I don't see ANY reason why you would want Android to mess up this beatiful phone.
Okay, I'm an Android hater, that's clear, but let me point it out:
Android is a copy of iOS (it's just boring)
It lags all the way
You need a nuclear power plant to keep it running for 1 day
The user experience is not consistent on all devices (not even with the same OEM!!)
Updates? Yes, if you do it all yourself
Open? Oh, thank you for your openness Android, and the malware...
I can go on if you'd like, but I think it's clear why I don't see this as a good idea...
Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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Lol, that was one of the dumbest trollings I've seen, _Madmatt.
For me its WP which only has negative sides. Its locked, limited, the interface is counter intuitive in many places, can't multitask properly, most apps are inferior to android ones, upgrades are rolled out slowly and with the locked product codes you never know if you'll get the next one, etc.
Ah, and android is no copy of iOS, but the wp7 tiles ARE a copy of android widgets, with some functionality removed.
As for the hardware of the lumia 800, it is superior to my 2 years old N1, with a better CPU, GPU, and the same memory. And my N1 flies running MIUI, so even a crippled phone like this should even be better.
Why did I get a Lumia? I was offered it, tried to use it for some time, gave up, gave it to the wife, who is now begging for me to give her her blade back. Even the better screen and camera were insufficient to convince her to keep using the Lumia. She keeps complaining of the apps, of the terrible battery, of being unable to do anything. Even changing a ringtone is a mess, having to cut and resample a MP3 file before being able to use it as a ringtone.
So, it seems like the Lumia will end in a drawer until someone manages to port android or meego to it. Unfortunately as it was a gift I can't sell it, or it would be gone by now.
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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If you really want to get rid of it, you can always ship it my way..
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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Sure, send me a Galaxy SII or a a Galaxy Nexus and we have a deal.
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LOL, you think I have such things? No way mate
Android and WP7 are two completely different beasts. No point in comparing them it's all about personal preference.
I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up. Even ICS won't fix this fully with its hardware acceleration. This is a area where Google has failed. Giving a smooth user experience. Both iPhone and WP7 has this and understand its importance but Android can't unless they rebuild it from the ground which I don't think will ever happen.
Completely agree with ^^
I was active Android ROM builder, tester, themer etc for more than 2 years., but I think I just got tired of endless battle with force closes and laags. The biggest problem with android is that it does not run on native code but on interpreted layer dalvikvm. You can try as hard as you want, but you will always need double horse power for the same tasks on other platforms.
That's also explains why WP7 is perfectly smooth with x2 less CPU and RAM while latest Google flagship with nearly desktop PC power suffers laagspikes here and there. While those small laag spikes are less visible on smartphones things are just getting worse with tablets. Today there is no tablet running Android which can render UI transitions with 60fps.
You can read a blog from ex Google employee about that.
How about some Android graphics true facts?
I agree with you guys,after using android from G1,htc hero,desire S,nexus one,sg1 and 2,galaxy nexus,lg optimus black and apple 4 and 3gs with all the cusotm roms and modifications none of them stand above wp7 smoothness. I can say i never had a lag on my phone ever,where android and ios would lag here and there. Again e-mail aplication is just a joy to use,and all the animation how they smooth transit...it never stops to impress me. Ofcourse it has some shortcomings but definatelly will get better,especially with nokia's help.Aplication wise,well i don't use that many apps but the one i used definatelly looked better than android and apple,it's like the have more soul and not look so dull and borring.
At first i did not like the idea Nokia refused android but now i see that they done the right decision,i see it no better.
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I come from Android and WP7 suits me so much better even though I liked the freedom of Android compared to WP. I rooted and flashed roms like crazy. But I got tired of acting beta tester. So much bugs here and there on Android. Specially if running custom roms.
Sure there are more apps also with more functionality. But I prefer the metro styled WP7 apps as they most often fit the design of the OS. That can't be said about Android apps. Often ugly and no one looks the same making the user experience much worse.
The lagg was the biggest issue for me with Android though. No matter the hardware (SGSII) there is always lag because of how the Android OS is built up.
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Well said. I had got used to the lag and didn't realise how bad it was until I got the Lumia.
I got sick of flashing ROMS too. CM7 was nice and stable, but when ICS roms came out I got sucked in. The gapps are all facelifted and are a lot nicer than Gingerbread. But then the ICS roms all have their issues and it just gets annoying.
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
tonymb91 said:
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
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No and no. I don't know where you read that, I just hope you didn't buy the phone relying on that info, heh...at the moment there's no way to do that. Maybe you're talking about the N9?
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
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Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
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And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
tonymb91 said:
And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
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yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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thank u man! ill try to read and learn about this. i learned pretty mutch everything about android phones,so hope i can learn something about the lumia 800 toothank u!