[Q] Video Player. Which one? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hey guys,
Loving my Prime but I'm finding the video playback hit and miss to be honest.
I'm finding them all very buggy and most of them kick me out of the video randomly even without anything else running.
All of the below run perfectly on my friends Galaxy SII so it may be ICS?
I want to play back XVIDs and MKVs with subtitle support.
Below are the players I've tried and their results:
Google Videos:
Reads MicroSD
Plays MKV (some without sound) but NOT XVID
Doesn't support subtitles
STABLE
Rockplayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MX Video Player Pro
Plays XVID & MKV
Subtitle support
UNSTABLE
MoboPlayer
Plays XVID & MKV
No subtitle support
UNSTABLE
How have you guys been finding video playback on this guy?
I play on using this tablet for a lot of video consumption so I'd love to get this sorted.
Thanks for the help!

Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.

MX video player has worked great for me. Try different encoders if something in your video isn't working well (ie, HW, SW, etc). Also, try re-installing if you think ICS broke it.

Diceplayer is the best I think. Plays everything just fine and have good setting for subtitle.
I watch my videos most with subtitle and i haven't had any problems. Easy to change size and if you long press on the subtitle text you can move it up and down. Also have easy access to change the subtitle sync. And the add only shows when the controls are showing. here You don't see the add when the video plays and the controls and status bar hides.
And if some videos don't play properly i say that the problem often is the video file that is encoded strange.

MX Pro works great for me even on my high profile x264 encodes. SW decoder works better than HW decoder (go figure right? I would have thought the opposite) with fast mode disabled.
Edit: I have to agree with Andreas, if you're having playback issues it's likely the video not the player. Encoding is a subtle art, not everyone gets it right. Get your vids from well known sources like Thora.

Thanks a million guys.
MX Player Pro doesn't support HW decoding on the Transformer Prime. At least on mine it doesn't. Dunno why. And its really flakey. It keep crashing out on any file I try to play (XVID, MP4, MKV)
DicePlayer is WIN so far! Thanks for the recommend!
It's playing everything with subtitles too.
The only thing I don't like about it is the background 'behind' the movie is a gradient from black at the top to grey at the bottom so on some movies you've got a grey at the bottom of the picture instead of it playing on a full black background.
Unless you guys know how I can change that I'll be using DicePlayer until something better comes along.
HURRY UP VLC!

HW decoding technically works on my Prime, but SW decoding performs better. Is the option not even available for you in settings? Free or Pro? Also, no VLC...ever. Just no.

OK!
Very happy to report that after purchasing the full version of MX Player Pro EVERYTHING WORKS GREAT!!!!
Many thanks again guys!
XDA ROCKS!

lediva said:
Dice Player has been gold for me, playing everything I've thrown at it (720p mkv, avi, mpeg). I haven't tried anything with subtitles, but it supposedly supports them.
There's currently only the ad-supported version available, but the ads are small and don't show up at all should you use microHDMI to display the video on an external screen.
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Another vote for DICE. Hopefully they can get their payment issues sorted out.

Dice is the best IMO. I run huge 1080p files and only Dice can handle it without a hiccup. MX Player Pro has a skip every once and a while. Not that big but Dice doesn't do it so it wins.

VitalPlayer Pro seems to work well. It can't navigate to the MicroSD card though.

BSPlayer has worked well for me. I use the lite version and all is good. It handles all video/audio as well has HW decoding for supported video types.

My vote goes to Dice player. It is the only one that I have tested that doesn't have audio lag when I am using bluetooth headphones. Also it plays everything I can throw at it.

And don't forget to instal mx player codec pack for armv7.. In market too.

MX Player will prompt you if it needs a codec pack installed. In the Primes case it does not, it is good to go.

Since I use and like DVD Catalyst 4 to convert my DVD's to video I also use their video app called Movie Gallery. Not sure if it plays all codecs but it sure works great with my converted DVD's

I used to use VPlayer when it was beta/free but now I use vlc for android http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-09-18/videolan_for_android_pre-alpha
I get my TFP tomorrow but it works on my phone and the OG transformer according to the post so it should work on the prime. NONeon btw at least the OG was NONeon
I sure hope that it does.

video and sound on tv, subtitle on prime
I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?

Does MXPlayer require an internet connection for the key verification? I saw some reviews that stated it did. Obviously on a wifi only device i may be without internet... Anyone have trouble with this?

Schutter said:
I've tried Dice- and MX player and with both programs I get sound and video on my tv playing avi but the subs will be displayed only on the Prime. Has anyone the same problem or does someone a solution?
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You have to use software decoding if you want soft subs, the hardware decoder on the prime doesn't handle them when outputting.

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720p / 1080ü MKV playback?

i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
eos666 said:
i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
Meanee said:
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
speed817 said:
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
andyxover said:
default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
ph0ton said:
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.

[Q] Video playback issues

Maybe its just me, but I've been having some odd issues with video playback on my new Tablet S.
Basically, anything that the Tablet natively supports works just fine. But anything that requires using a Software Decoder (like MX Video Player, or QQPlayer etc) goes weird. The audio and the video will become unsynced as the video playback framerate is much lower than the original file while the sound plays at the normal speed, sending it far ahead of the displayed video.
Does anyone have any suggestions on better ways to play non-supported video files?
Dice player has worked for me without any problems. I've heard of problems with sync on MX but who knows, give Dice a try and see if it helps...
MOBOPLAYER.
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I'm using BS Player lite, had no problems with avi or mkv.

Best video player and add-ons?

Anyone have a favorite video player? I want something that will play all types of files, like MP4, AVI, MKV.
Aside from finding the 'best' one, a problem is when I download something like MX Video Player, I see all these add-on apps like codexes that are for specific processors. Which should I choose?
Thanks for any help or advice.
I think this question was already answered in another forum... but I downloaded MX Player and didn't have to install any codecs. For my atrix the mx player app prompted me to download... i think the armv7. But for the note, everything just played fine. I didn't get to try mkv's though.
MX Player can play 1080p mkv's just fine in hardware mode.
I use that in conjunction with file manager with samba support to stream from my NAS.
Another vote for MX player. I've even uninstalled the stock video player and just use the MX player for my main video player.
MX player will automatically prompt a codec download if needed. You don't need one with the Note.
Dice player is another good one but it had some slight lag when I was watching a movie which was disappointing. That never happened to me before with dice.
Loving vlc alpha. No pros in software or hardware mode with a 720p movie for 3+ hours.
I find MX to be jittery in HW mode on many video files (doesnt happen to me on my international Note). I run in SW mode but the quality appears to be slightly worse..?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I find MX to be jittery in HW mode on many video files (doesnt happen to me on my international Note). I run in SW mode but the quality appears to be slightly worse..?
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Yeah MX seems to be a bit jittery with my .MPG files... it wont even play them in HW mode, i have to use SW mode.. and even then i have to use SW Mode Fast Decoder to get it to play properly
however the quality looks excellent to me. I'm still amazed by this f*ckin screen. 1000x better then my atrix.
Anybody know the best conversion settings for Handbrake? I read on another site that these were good choices, but seem to be for International version:
Video
Codec- H.264
Resolution- 1280×720/1280×800 (HD)
Bitrate- 1500kbps
Framerate- 30fps
Audio
Codec- AAC
Sampling rate- 44.1khz
Bitrate- 160kbps
Channel- stereo
I use Moboplayer and it seems to work fine. I wish vlc would be final.
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MX Player has been working great for me...
Rockplayer and dice play everything I need.
Mx player will attempt to play anything you throw at it. I used it until I realized that's not necessarily a good thing. It will play files that it can't play well...with no video, with audio sync issues, at half desperate, or down-scaled. Not what I wanted.
I use CIFS Manager to mount windows shares locally. This give you access to more players. If you have issues, a TVersity install may be an option.

[Q] HD movies on PRime

Hi
i have use mx player for a while on my tablet.
but since they removed the DTS audio codec i have switched to vplayer
but my issue on my prime is that when i play for instance an episode of game of thrones or breaking bad on 720p .mkv version it starts ok...
but after a minute... the audio decoder doens't work anymore and it seems like you can hear only the background noise...
i used to have the same problem with mx player, but there i had found an easy option make the audio normal again. I use to switch form hardware <--> software decoding. And then it would be ok.
the odd thing is that this doens't happen with HD movies...
But for the vplayer i haven't found a sollution. Is there anyone who had te same issue?
thanks
I had issues with MX player when trying to play 1080p .mkv files and the best solution i found was to download and use BSPlayer and go into settings and set it to use Hardware decoding (BSEngine).
Never had any issues and 1080p .mkv files play perfectly - even on power save mode
diallito said:
Hi
i have use mx player for a while on my tablet.
but since they removed the DTS audio codec i have switched to vplayer
but my issue on my prime is that when i play for instance an episode of game of thrones or breaking bad on 720p .mkv version it starts ok...
but after a minute... the audio decoder doens't work anymore and it seems like you can hear only the background noise...
i used to have the same problem with mx player, but there i had found an easy option make the audio normal again. I use to switch form hardware <--> software decoding. And then it would be ok.
the odd thing is that this doens't happen with HD movies...
But for the vplayer i haven't found a sollution. Is there anyone who had te same issue?
thanks
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Dude, go for DICE player. For me, on my prime it works flawlessly.
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Dude, go for DICE player. For me, on my prime it works flawlessly.
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Seconded, definately! DicePlayer playes anything and everything.
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Seconded, definately! DicePlayer playes anything and everything.
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Third! It's what I use!
Tried different formats?
I've only had my TP for a short time and have only tried a couple of movies on it. Not knowing which format was best I chose to rip to MP4 format and it hasn't given me any trouble so far. Is there some advantage to .mkv?
mkv is more of a losless wrapper, better quality, no compression, much larger file than mp4
The thing with Diceplayer or most players doesn't render embedded subtitles. MX Player renders it fine though. So even thought I get artifacts on MX Player when playing 10bit MKV or 1080p MKV animes, I stick with it. Yes I messed with the settings on those other players.
Well I'm getting issues with Dice not wanting to open files with DTS audio. If I open the video through file manager and choose Dice, it'll play the video no problem but no audio. If I try to open inside Dice, it crashes. Vplayer works with audio, but drops frames even if I choose 'hardware acceleration' I'll try mx and see if that works.
EDIT:
Nope, MX won't play the audio either. It at least shows me that their is an audio track, and that the audio is DTS track, but it won't play it. Any suggestions besides transcoding the audio?
i believe it was when MX player got updated to 1.6 that they removed the DTS codec. If you never had problems before they removed the codec and prefer mx player just google MX player apk X.XX and find the version with the codec in it. I would tell you the website to go to, but it's a no no on XDA.
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i believe it was when MX player got updated to 1.6 that they removed the DTS codec. If you never had problems before they removed the codec and prefer mx player just google MX player apk X.XX and find the version with the codec in it. I would tell you the website to go to, but it's a no no on XDA.
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Hey thanks!! Downloaded 1.5a and bam! DTS playback is perfect! Thanks again!
FYI
Dice version 2.0.5 also has DTS intact. You can find it somewhere on google, and plays HD files better in my opinion.
The latest version of MX Player that still supports DTS audio is 1.6f, and for Dice Player it's 2.0.6.
I've heard these versions are incompatible with Jelly Bean, so it looks like we'll have to find a new solution once the update comes out. (likely switching to BS Player)
I've always been an advocate of Dice, and with the majority of my stuff in Xvid or more recently, mp4, all stashed on a server that was smb shared, it worked a treat.
However, I've never been able to get HD mkvs above 720p to play well, and even those had the occasional laggy or jerky moment. I always put that down to network speed, though.
However, I've just tried the latest BS Player and all I can say is wow. It has just played all of my 1080p stuff over the LAN without breaking a sweat.
I am jumping ship. Very recommended.

1080p mkv on Nexus 10

I bought the Nexus 10 mainly for movie playback, I have downloaded several 720p mkv files and 1080p mkv files. The 720p mkv works fine in MX Player, but 1080p mkv does not work at all. (not only the sound but also the video), Ive also tried VLC player , BS player, Dice player, nothing works.
Its weird because Ive seen several clips on youtube where 1080p mkv files do work, but I dont understand how.
Can someone please help me???
PetStore said:
I bought the Nexus 10 mainly for movie playback, I have downloaded several 720p mkv files and 1080p mkv files. The 720p mkv works fine in MX Player, but 1080p mkv does not work at all. (not only the sound but also the video), Ive also tried VLC player , BS player, Dice player, nothing works.
Its weird because Ive seen several clips on youtube where 1080p mkv files do work, but I dont understand how.
Can someone please help me???
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MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
I don't know how relevant this is but...
I got "The Tunnel" free with uTorrent awhile back. Legally. I went to watch it on my older, last-gen A500 (720p mkv file) on MX Player. Didn't work with H/W at all. S/W, would play video and audio. Audio'd desync around 1 minute in with video slowing down. 2 1/2-4 minutes in, audio dies permanently. Didn't work through the HDMI or on-board screen. Could it be similar causes?
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MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
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Doesnt work.
lKBZl said:
MX player and BS player are the best... try with sw/hw decode.
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I don't know how relevant this is but...
I got "The Tunnel" free with uTorrent awhile back. Legally. I went to watch it on my older, last-gen A500 (720p mkv file) on MX Player. Didn't work with H/W at all. S/W, would play video and audio. Audio'd desync around 1 minute in with video slowing down. 2 1/2-4 minutes in, audio dies permanently. Didn't work through the HDMI or on-board screen. Could it be similar causes?
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Doesnt work.
Can only someone who owns a Nexus 10 reply.
Use dice player with the custom DTS plugin (guessing that's why its trying to force software playback). Its called libffmpeg.so - do a Google search for it, put it in root, then activate it in the settings menu in dice player. Should play in HW mode. No matter what peeps say, I keep using dice player (can stream over ftp shares!)
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Use dice player with the custom DTS plugin (guessing that's why its trying to force software playback). Its called libffmpeg.so - do a Google search for it, put it in root, then activate it in the settings menu in dice player. Should play in HW mode.
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Isnt DTS only for sound? the problem is also the video, there is no playback at all, so are you sure it will work? what is "put it in root" ???
Never try a 1080p mkv
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Never try a 1080p mkv
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why?
The mkv is made of two or more parts: the video, and the audio(sometimes multiple streams). If the audio is unsupported by the hw decoder, it will try to play via software (slower). Root directory /sdcard/
I recently started using dice player because it plays my mkv videos 1080p with dts sound.
Default settings used and no custom codecs.
Mxplayer doesnt support dts audio due to some licence issue otherwise I prefer Mxplayer
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shahed26 said:
I recently started using dice player because it plays my mkv videos 1080p with dts sound.
Default settings used and no custom codecs.
Mxplayer doesnt support dts audio due to some licence issue otherwise I prefer Mxplayer
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You did that with a Nexus 10?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156254
Did you try mxplayer with the custom codec from this thread? 1080p mkvs work for me with this. Using h/w+ decoder , s/w audio decode and 4.0 compatibility mode in the settings.
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You did that with a Nexus 10?
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BS Player works fine for me on my Nexus 10. Have you ticked the "Use alternate HW decoding mode" under playback preferences? Sometimes when I do get the odd 1080p MKV file not working with this, I swap it to software decoding which then works fine.
Dude, HW+ and Software Audio Decoding in MX Player does the Trick... I even created a 2560x1600 h.264 mkv video (25fps) with high preset, and it works smoothly - however, you must have the exact pixel count. If the Nexus 10 has to do rescaling, e.g. because of the navbar, you will get horrible stuttering. Nevertheless, this is pretty impressive. It is all about proper usage.
Edit: 1080p can be scaled up without stuttering, of course.
i don't know what it is you're doing wrong, but MX Player and BSPlayer both play 1080p perfectly fine as long as they're in HW decoding mode. I prefer MX Player since BS is having issues with A/V sync when playing a lot of the smaller 720p videos i have tried. make sure to enable HW+ decoding in MX Player, add the custom DTS codec for the current version and get some proper 1080p mkv files and it will play pretty much anything perfectly.
What is the bitrate of your mkv?
I encoded the video using Handbrake at High Profile (CRF20), which produced 19mb/s in average, with peaks at up to 70mb/s.
My source file was "Redwood National Park" by Jacob+Katie Schwarz (you can find it on YouTube). I avoided letterbox with a combination of cropping and resizing.
Keep in mind that you have to match the native resolution if you want to enjoy insane video playback like this without stuttering. If you create a 2560x1604 file for example, you end up seeing one frame every three seconds...

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