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I did a quick search to see if anyone had this issue. Most chargers output 5.0 volts while the Touchpad charger outputs 5.3volts. While my problem is with a Nexus S, I think this will be of interest to Touchpad owners given the possible cause.
The other day I accidently used my Touchpad charger to recharge my Nexus S. Afterward, everything seemed fine until I attempted to connect it to my laptop to offload some files. While it worked the day before, my laptop (Windows 7 64-bit) no longer discovers the device. Suspecting a problem, I connected to another PC running Win7 32-bit and a Mac running Snow Leopard. All with Android SDK and drivers properly installed with the same result. The same goes if I first put the Nexus in bootloader mode.
What makes me think there may be hardware damage is this. If I power off the Nexus S, then plug in a charger or USB cable, the phone boots. I do not believe it did so before. In addition, in the past if I plugged a charger or USB cable the LCD would briefly light up. After the incident, it doesn't. It still charges though.
Not necessarily looking for answer here, just thought this might be a word of caution for those like me who own both devices.
It should'nt have
5.3 V instead of 5V = not a big enough difference to cause a problem
2A instead of 1A means nothing regarding your current (no pun intended) problem
Plus your nexus S has charge protection to protect it from incompatible chargers
I use my TP charger to fast charge (because of the 2A thing) my GS II and my wifes HTC desire
However Fast charging is not good for the long term life span of the battery
Nomedias said:
I did a quick search to see if anyone had this issue. Most chargers output 5.0 volts while the Touchpad charger outputs 5.3volts. While my problem is with a Nexus S, I think this will be of interest to Touchpad owners given the possible cause.
The other day I accidently used my Touchpad charger to recharge my Nexus S. Afterward, everything seemed fine until I attempted to connect it to my laptop to offload some files. While it worked the day before, my laptop (Windows 7 64-bit) no longer discovers the device. Suspecting a problem, I connected to another PC running Win7 32-bit and a Mac running Snow Leopard. All with Android SDK and drivers properly installed with the same result. The same goes if I first put the Nexus in bootloader mode.
What makes me think there may be hardware damage is this. If I power off the Nexus S, then plug in a charger or USB cable, the phone boots. I do not believe it did so before. In addition, in the past if I plugged a charger or USB cable the LCD would briefly light up. After the incident, it doesn't. It still charges though.
Not necessarily looking for answer here, just thought this might be a word of caution for those like me who own both devices.
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I've been charging my Nexus S 4G as well as a couple of other android phones (Samsung Vibrant and Samsung Epic) regularly without issue for a month or so. I doubt the Touchpad charger was the issue.
I've been using the touchpad wire to charge my evo 4g for over amonth and it's still fine.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Now I'm stumped as to why it happened. It is definitely something lower-level than OS, given the boots-when-plugged-in behavior.
End result is I can only transfer files wirelessly, and since I recently reverted to stock, I can't root it again. Hopefully, the official ICS update is an OTA, and not via USB (like froyo on Samsung Vibrant). If not, I'll seek warranty replacement.
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It hasn't effected my nexus s
even though the charger is higher rated im pretty sure the phone only draws the maximum that is safe.
Just a thought: have you been using the same data cable to test this the entire time? It is possible for a cable to charge but not be able to transfer data. You may want to try a different cable just in case... just an idea.
jake921660 said:
even though the charger is higher rated im pretty sure the phone only draws the maximum that is safe.
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Voltage is "given" by the charger and current is "drawn by the device.
High overvoltage would be dangerous but not 0.3v!
The charger could be faulty and have affected the TP while still being usable for other devices.
And the TPs dont like under current charging either.
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Just a thought: have you been using the same data cable to test this the entire time? It is possible for a cable to charge but not be able to transfer data. You may want to try a different cable just in case... just an idea.
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Forgot to mention I tried different cables as well. The same cables transfer data to/from other devices like my Touchpad, but not the Nexus S. Good idea though.
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I've been charging my htc windows phone with the touchpad charger. It's almost twice as fast and i haven't had any problems.
I have been temped to use it but. the NS charger gives 700ma while the TP gives 2000ma, If you want your battery to live more years use the stock.
I even use the NS charger to charge the touchpad... it will charge to 100% during the night.
I use my 2A Galaxy Tab charger to charge everything, never had a problem. If my SGS2 is happy with it, the Nexus S shouldn't have a problem either.
Amperage is how much current the charger is capable of supplying, the device plugged into it won't necessarily draw anywhere near that much, I'd be surprised if any regular phone would draw as much as 1A while charging.
Put a multimeter across any 5V charger and you'll probably find it's putting out anywhere from 4.5V to 5.5V unless it's a particularly good quality one. If it's high current charger then it's more likely it'll have a more stable voltage under load (i.e. - while charging).
A +/- ~10% difference in charging voltage should be within tolerance for pretty much any electronic device.
I also use the TP charger for my Sensation, no problems.
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robrob777 said:
I have been temped to use it but. the NS charger gives 700ma while the TP gives 2000ma, If you want your battery to live more years use the stock.
I even use the NS charger to charge the touchpad... it will charge to 100% during the night.
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Sorry to correct you, but, current is drawn by the device and it will only draw what it needs so there should be no problem
Have you tried blowing out the usb port on your phone or cleaning the connection?
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Have you tried blowing out the usb port on your phone or cleaning the connection?
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Thanks, but no it didn't work.
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Nomedias said:
I did a quick search to see if anyone had this issue. Most chargers output 5.0 volts while the Touchpad charger outputs 5.3volts. While my problem is with a Nexus S, I think this will be of interest to Touchpad owners given the possible cause.
The other day I accidently used my Touchpad charger to recharge my Nexus S. Afterward, everything seemed fine until I attempted to connect it to my laptop to offload some files. While it worked the day before, my laptop (Windows 7 64-bit) no longer discovers the device. Suspecting a problem, I connected to another PC running Win7 32-bit and a Mac running Snow Leopard. All with Android SDK and drivers properly installed with the same result. The same goes if I first put the Nexus in bootloader mode.
What makes me think there may be hardware damage is this. If I power off the Nexus S, then plug in a charger or USB cable, the phone boots. I do not believe it did so before. In addition, in the past if I plugged a charger or USB cable the LCD would briefly light up. After the incident, it doesn't. It still charges though.
Not necessarily looking for answer here, just thought this might be a word of caution for those like me who own both devices.
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It's not the extra voltage. Either user error, reread guides... or hardware, cant't help you.
Nomedias said:
I did a quick search to see if anyone had this issue. Most chargers output 5.0 volts while the Touchpad charger outputs 5.3volts. While my problem is with a Nexus S, I think this will be of interest to Touchpad owners given the possible cause.
The other day I accidently used my Touchpad charger to recharge my Nexus S. Afterward, everything seemed fine until I attempted to connect it to my laptop to offload some files. While it worked the day before, my laptop (Windows 7 64-bit) no longer discovers the device. Suspecting a problem, I connected to another PC running Win7 32-bit and a Mac running Snow Leopard. All with Android SDK and drivers properly installed with the same result. The same goes if I first put the Nexus in bootloader mode.
What makes me think there may be hardware damage is this. If I power off the Nexus S, then plug in a charger or USB cable, the phone boots. I do not believe it did so before. In addition, in the past if I plugged a charger or USB cable the LCD would briefly light up. After the incident, it doesn't. It still charges though.
Not necessarily looking for answer here, just thought this might be a word of caution for those like me who own both devices.
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I am having the exact same problem. My phone does not boot on its own when I connect the USB cable, which is a slight difference from what you described, but everything else is identical.
I hadn't previously thought of the Touchpad charger being the root of the problem, but after Googling "Nexus S charging but not USB connection," I came across this thread...and wouldn't you know, I've been using my Touchpad charger for the past two nights.
I haven't made any changes to my phone in the last two days. The only thing different from my normal routine was Touchpad charger.
May I ask, why touchpad can not charge with USB port on computer, only charge with hp touchpad charger ?
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone had any insights in to this problem I have been having.
Briefly, I have the 4g lte verion on EE's new network. I purchased the official MHL/HDMI adapter which works fine and the video is outputed to my sammy 50inch tv fine. The issue I have is the battery drains while doing so. I belive this may to due to the phone outputting more than it is drawing from the power source. Any thoughts ?
I spoke with Samsung tech and they said a number of people have started to report this issue and they are currently testing/investigating. If this is indeed the case seems a pointless acessory as a long video would possibly drain the whole battery, Im yet to test the full drain time.
Secondly, with a 3rd party docking cradle with spare battery slot which purchased from amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/eLifeStore®-Samsung-Desktop-Charger-Docking/dp/B008PPRGFY) also does not charge phone properly. Even with the orignial charger in the ac port (or usb port) . The phone reports as charging but stays the same or decreases. Charged directly from the socket it is fine. Strange!
Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ian
It's common. Mine did that too! I switched to my old S2 charger, problem solved
Thanks Ill try that out, any idea why that works ?
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Thanks Ill try that out, any idea why that works ?
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No idea man? A design fault maybe? All I know is that my phone took for f#*%ing ever to charge with the USB type wall charger. I pulled it out of the socket and plugged my other other one in that was sitting right next to it and it started charging? Checked a few minutes later and it had climbed considerably so I pulled the USB cable out of the new plug and kicked it under the bed where it now lays resting not to be used again LOL.
USB plug/cord works perfectly fine? So I use it on the computer. My laptop even charges the phone via the USB cable faster than the socket plug (which is usually the opposite - as I am sure we are all aware). So yeah I would say poor design or defective wall plug or both or something? Wasn't going to send my phone back because of it. 2second decision problem solved Samsung phone is great!
Im having exactly the same problem.
I have an s3 on orange and have the same mhl adapter conected to my tv.
I have tried the charger from my s3 which does says its charging when I connect my phone but only for about a minute so I also tried using the charger from my s2 and that just does exactly the same.
An easier way is to buy the official allshare dongle for your hdtv then you can stream anything from your phones screen direct to your tv and can have the phone on charge via pc or wall socket at the same time,
Hope this helps
i suggest you throw away your original charger (slow charge) and its usb cable (loose - actually caused the extsd to become damaged to the point i had to repartition) and buy yourself a cheap usb cable for data (£2) and a 3rd party charger (pref not a usb adapter one - £5) and all should be fine!
I still experienced a small battery drain while using the mhl adapter, however, i froze a few apps with titianuim (ones i know run all the time like utter and tasker, paragon ntfs, easy ums, directory bind etc), and put it on min brightness - works like a charm. I know its a effort freezing apps but does the trick with my phone... Since finding that out i actually keep paragon & easy ums frozen till i need them...
just a few thoughts for you....
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
I upgraded my laptop to a Samsung 250gb SSD, which provided me with a spare HDD:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7T...=1387366438&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+250gb+ssd
It comes with a cable already in it (USB 2.0) so this next item is optional, A Apricorn USB 3.0 Transger cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Note...qid=1387366498&sr=8-1&keywords=apricorn+clone
And lastly, it needs to connect to the phone, so I picked up this USB 3.0 OTG cable:
http://www.amazon.com/White-Color-M...7366411&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+note+3+usb+otg
Now here is the steps I took.
Since my HDD still had stuff on it, and it was partitioned, I had to wipe it clean. I formatted the HDD on my computer first. I formatted it to exfat. Maybe another way will work but I'm not testing it. I then hooked up all the wires accordingly and plugged it into my phone. The N3 did not recognize the file format of the HDD so I re-formatted it to the N3 standard. After that, it is as simple as plug and play. I was even able to use the stock My Files app.
Note*** obviously the SSD is not a requirement, unfortunately, I am unable to test it as it has been in my computer for several months and I dont want to risk corrupting anything. It may work with the SSD as well, although I doubt it will reach the speeds it can on a computer.
I am not rooted and did not have to download anything extra for it.
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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Hmm..Never thought of that :good:
Transfer movies and stuff back and forth. Also pictures, downloaded documents. Mostly my school work is backed up to it now so if Google drive fails. I'll still be safe :beer:
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Can never have too much space
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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This. We were using a variant setup, pushing the content via DLNA to our Xbox 360 (connected to a good ole 'dumb' tube TV). Quite enjoyable.
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
trillog said:
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
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I'm sure it can be done. That would be ideal. I have the 10,000mah zero Lemmon battery set to notify me when it's available again. I'll look around for a spilter
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what format was the hdd in exFAT or NTFS ?
I use the OTG dongle to hook up my 1TB drive and play movies and TV shows directly from the drive.
(Also works with the tablet)
I formatted it to exfat. I have a 1tb external also. But it's already formatted to ntfs. And it's full so I'm not going to risk losing a thing on it.
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justin94 said:
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
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This is awesome! I have an otg on order from Amazon. I was hoping to use a Logitech wireless receiver for my mouse, and a large 3.0 usb when needed.
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Do not remember where, maybe mono price, but have seen micro USB 2.0 to USB 'A' female splitters.
rEVOLVE said:
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
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Because it's not supposed to work that way... The OTG cable puts your device in "host" mode... so it will use the phones power to run your HDD and kill the ability to charge... there are ways to get power to the HDD so you don't drain your device battery as much but the charging thing is a native function of OTG switching.
This is what i've been using... it has HDMI out ... microUSB 5v input to run the HDD... USB port for HDD or any other USB device... (using a wireless keyboard on it right now)... and card reader ports...
You can fake this thing into trying to charge the phone by plugging in the micro USB connection first and THEN plugging the hub into the phone with the microUSB power already on... then you see the charge notification in the status bar but it still doesn't charge the device... even with the samsung 2amp charger as a power supply... the battery still drains
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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justin94 said:
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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That actually is a good idea to try. I'm less optimistic about that as my previous experience with wireless charging has shown that it is less efficient t getting current to the phone as a wired connection and there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
What about the Smart dock? With 2 USB ports an HDMI and power in?
rEVOLVE said:
there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
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That's the problem I'm running into... I'm running the HDMI/MHL/OTG hub... I got the HDMI out to my flat screen... OTG to a wireless keyboard... bluetooth mouse... When it all hooks up properly (you have to plug everything in the right order) the Note 3 screen shuts off and it runs as a proper CPU with output to the flat screen...but even with the samsung 2 amp charger plugged in I still lose about 1% battery every 5 minutes... better than running without the charger but that s$#t can't be good for the battery running that hard and charging at the same time AND losing the battle.
I got some old Galaxy Player 5.0 model yp-gb70cw from my friend, and it's not turning On at all. I tried all kind of button combinations after phone was chargered for 3 hours (while charging there were no light indicator that it's getting any power). I even open him up and disconnect the battery and hold power button for minute and reconnect battery but still no life in that phone. Anyone got any idea what can problem be or what to do, I was planning to buy that micro usb jig, maybe that could bring him alive...
Anyone ?
A similar thing happened to my son's player a few months ago. He got an old 500mA usb charger, connected his player with the samsung cord and let it charge overnight. In the morning the player appeared dead. However, he unplugged the charger and held the power button for a few seconds and his player came back to life.
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That didn't work for me...any other sugesstions ?
I've got nothing else. That worked for my son. My player 5.0 has been working fine, but it gets used almost every day.
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the usb jig may be worth a try, or you could try the jtag but other than that it may just be a dead player.
read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000175
I found out that phone was working normal and teacher took it from a kid in class and shut it down, after that he can't power On anymore. Phone was not bricked I doubt that JTAG would work I mean JTAG is for unbricking device, right ?
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Anyone ?
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My first question would be: Does the device really fail to boot or is the graphics chip broken, meaning that it boots but doesn't produce any output?
Since a player doesn't have any spinning parts which make noise as soon as you turn it on, it's hard to tell the difference. Can you connect it to a Linux computer and see what the kernel reports it sees? (journalctl -f or dmesg)
yahya69 said:
My first question would be: Does the device really fail to boot or is the graphics chip broken, meaning that it boots but doesn't produce any output?
Since a player doesn't have any spinning parts which make noise as soon as you turn it on, it's hard to tell the difference. Can you connect it to a Linux computer and see what the kernel reports it sees? (journalctl -f or dmesg)
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On Windows I don't get any respond from him when it is connected on USB, didn't try on linux yet I mean I didn't use linux for a while forgot everything so you will have to tell me step by step what to do, will some live dist. work ?
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On Windows I don't get any respond from him when it is connected on USB, didn't try on linux yet I mean I didn't use linux for a while forgot everything so you will have to tell me step by step what to do, will some live dist. work ?
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In principle, any distro should work, it's just about how to capture the kernel messages. You get part of it via the dmesg command, which you can issue in a terminal but to get the full picture, you have to read the system log, which is either by having a traditional syslog server running, like syslog-ng or rsyslog, or using systemd's log utility journalctl. Here, the easiest way of following the messages is by issuing the command "journalctl -f" in a terminal. Ultimately it really depends what logging facility the live distro offers.
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I got some old Galaxy Player 5.0 model yp-gb70cw from my friend, and it's not turning On at all. I tried all kind of button combinations after phone was chargered for 3 hours (while charging there were no light indicator that it's getting any power). I even open him up and disconnect the battery and hold power button for minute and reconnect battery but still no life in that phone. Anyone got any idea what can problem be or what to do, I was planning to buy that micro usb jig, maybe that could bring him alive...
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I have two 5.0 players that the usb port no longer works for anything. They do not charge, nor do they recognise any charger or computer.
I would say open it back up and use a multimeter/voltmeter and check the battery to see if it has any kind of charge. Chances are it does not due to a bad usb port by the sounds. If it's not taking a charge it's not going to do anything. Do the battery check and maybe I can help you from there if your willing to frankenstien your player.
By the way I still use both my 5.0 players all the time. Just had to rig them up so they could take a charge. Thay still work fine aside from not having usb capabilites.
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I have two 5.0 players that the usb port no longer works for anything. They do not charge, nor do they recognise any charger or computer.
I would say open it back up and use a multimeter/voltmeter and check the battery to see if it has any kind of charge. Chances are it does not due to a bad usb port by the sounds. If it's not taking a charge it's not going to do anything. Do the battery check and maybe I can help you from there if your willing to frankenstien your player.
By the way I still use both my 5.0 players all the time. Just had to rig them up so they could take a charge. Thay still work fine aside from not having usb capabilites.
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Okay, how to test that battery on multimeter it has 3 pins and they are kind of sucked inside of that plastic if I remember correctly.
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Okay, how to test that battery on multimeter it has 3 pins and they are kind of sucked inside of that plastic if I remember correctly.
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the plastic tab that holds the battery pulls straight up. Use a fine tiped multimeter set on DC voltage and touch the probes to the two outer pins of the battery. If your multimeter is digital you will get a reading even if positive and negative are wrong, it will just read in the negative if backwards. If your meter is old school needle and you have the poles swapped you will see the needle go backwards, in which case just reverse the probes. This is all provided there is at least a small charge remaining in the battery. Positive wires are usually red, negative usually black but can also be blue, green or brown. I will look for my photo's of the 5.0 innards a little later on tonight for you.
If I remember correctly you need more then 3.2 volts for your player to boot up if it's going to.
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If I remember correctly you need more then 3.2 volts for your player to boot up if it's going to.
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I measure 4.070V but phone is still dead, won't power up.
yahya69 may be right, maybe the graphics chip is bad. Maybe the screen is shot. IDK. Make sure you are using an official samsung USB cable to connect.
Hi!
I want to sharing my experience during my usage with hp elite X3 lap dock I just bought. If anyone (and sometime later) bought another kind of lap-dock (mirabook?, nextbook?), I'll be very pleased if you share your experience here as well.
Well, sadly, these kinds of lap docks are not dex-supported out of the box (at least during the time writing this).
So, we'll need to UBL and flash kernel that have "universal dex" mod inside.
I found some things that are really amusing, and I posted this thread under the "Accessory" sub instead of Q&A because I hoped this thread to help everyone deciding buying this lap dock.
First and foremost, Pros and Cons..
Pros:
- Amazing build quality. Sleek, sturdy, and also amazing finish.
- Tactile keyboard. It's not a cheap one you'll find on cheap laptops. Very comfortable for long session typing (for me at least).
- Amazing display. I compared it to my colleagues windows 10 laptop that have 2 times the price, and imo, the display wins hands down.
- Wireless connectivity (with another bugged feature I'll tell below, and if you don't use it, won't hinder you as well).
- Amazing speaker (note, there is a bug on it, gonna tell you below as well).
- Cheap. Well, actually it is very pricey, but there are refurbished models with 150$ price tag when I bought it on ebay.
- Boots amazingly fast. At first I thought it only boots when I press and hold the power button for a long time (which, makes the booting actually longer). Turns out a single press at the power button turns on the device almost instantly.
Cons:
- The trackpad is not that comfortable. You can't click and drag. Right click register is tapping with two fingers (MacBook style). Scrolling up and down using two fingers is a disaster, since it often registers as a right click instead of scrolling. I ended up buying a Bluetooth mouse to solve this problem.
* Update (9 July 2018): This problem is fixed with oreo 8.0 update! Scrolling up and down is no longer a gassle, and two fingers tap easily registers as a right-click!
- No driver update from Android. Actually, the mouse problem is solved on a driver update. But sadly, the only way to update those drivers is using a HP Elite X3 smart phone.
- As far as I know, it is hard to search for a 45 W, USB C charger for the replacement (just in case something goes wrong with it).. I found that mostly USB - PD devices only shoots up to 30W, and I haven't found one that shows 45W.
Bugs:
- Related to audio:
I found that using a USB C connection (Samsung dex - mode), the audio produced is often crackled. When playing using the wireless mode (smart display by Samsung), it doesn't happen - even when playing the same audio files. So, it is either a driver problem, or a connection problem (I think it's related to the USB C provided, gonna buy another one soon to test).
* Update (9 July 2018): On oreo ROM, the audio no longer outputs to the lapdock... Very sad about it.. For now, I'm using a bluetooth headset to accomodate. If anyone finds out a Oreo Rom with audio output on lapdock, please share
- Related to wireless mode:
> Heck, I don't know the magic beyond it, but actually you can TYPE using the lap-dock keyboard when the phone is paired wirelessly! I thought the wireless mode only enables screen mirroring without input?
> That said, there is a problem though. Not all keys are working (windows key to trigger opening apps and other function keys don't work). Secondly, when we typed, it is registered twice. And sadly, I still don't know what to do with it.
- Related to charging the device:
> Somehow, charging the devices sometimes become quite a pain. At times, when the lap dock is turned off, it won't charge (at least, the battery indicator doesn't blinking to show it charges). It doesn't always happen as well, so I really don't know what caused it. Well, you can remedy it by plugging the charger cable when the lap dock is turned on and turn it off while still connecting to the charger.
* Update (9 July 2018): Never encountered this problem anymore. Weird since I don't get any software update for the lap dock itself.
Related to lap dock input (track pad, keyboard, and audio):
> When you plug in (or out) the charger, for a brief moment, the trackpad, keyboard, and audio is disconnected and reconnected again. Well, mostly this won't become a problem, but sometimes, when I am listening to a Bluetooth headphone, the audio suddenly rerouted to my lap dock instead of my phone.
> Sometimes, when you plug the phone using USB - C to the lap dock, it doesn't recognize the input devices (except for the monitor). Re-connecting the device solves the problem, but since Dex "rebooting" takes some time, sometimes it is just annoying.
* Update (9 July 2018): There are some Oreo ROM that doesn't recognize the keyboard and touchpad input. Currently, I'm using Alexis ROM 4.4 and it is working. Several days ago, update the ROM to v 5.3 but turns out it have the said problems, so I return back to 4.4.
That is all of my HP elite X3 lap dock review. Hope this helps you decide whether you want to buy one or not. Personally, it is a great buy for me, since the cons and the bugs doesn't affect me too much.
EDIT - 22 Jan 2018: Editing several things after using the lap dock for around two weeks.
EDIT - 9 July 2018: Updating it with oreo ROM experience.
How do you connect phone to lapdock to enable dex? I appreciate need to root but it doesn't have a HDMI port are you connecting through USB C as some people are saying struggling to get USB C monitors working
Thanks
r8dooo said:
How do you connect phone to lapdock to enable dex? I appreciate need to root but it doesn't have a HDMI port are you connecting through USB C as some people are saying struggling to get USB C monitors working
Thanks
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It is using a USB-C connection. I won't say the connection is flawless, as sometimes it doesn't connect to the keyboard and mouse or having a non-HD output (simply re-plugging the phone does the work), but I won't say it is a struggle to make it work. It works like 90% of the time and when it is connected, we can use it without a problem (except the sound problem, see my explanation above).
Also, it have a micro Hdmi port. But, as far as I try, it doesn't work for mirroring the dex for another screen.
Thanks for this review.
I got the LapDock as well but sadly haven't been able to use it since Oreo Beta 3. Fingers crossed that one day Samsung will re-enable support for third party docks. Sigh...
I also found the trackpad experience particularly poor. The BT mouse is a good solution. Also I would sometimes have issues where if the USB-c cable were moved or nudged, DeX would reboot which is annoying as it takes quite a few seconds.
Also I found that the LapDock battery drains very fast when it is not in use. I would charge it to full, disconnect it from power and store it away. After only a week it would no longer have a charge.
I wonder if the new firmware makes a difference... I've been meaning to visit a Microsoft store to borrow an Elite x3 to use to update it. Do they even sell those anymore, though?
Xombie11 said:
Thanks for this review.
I got the LapDock as well but sadly haven't been able to use it since Oreo Beta 3. Fingers crossed that one day Samsung will re-enable support for third party docks. Sigh...
I also found the trackpad experience particularly poor. The BT mouse is a good solution. Also I would sometimes have issues where if the USB-c cable were moved or nudged, DeX would reboot which is annoying as it takes quite a few seconds.
Also I found that the LapDock battery drains very fast when it is not in use. I would charge it to full, disconnect it from power and store it away. After only a week it would no longer have a charge.
I wonder if the new firmware makes a difference... I've been meaning to visit a Microsoft store to borrow an Elite x3 to use to update it. Do they even sell those anymore, though?
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Agree with all of your points..
Except, for the nudging cable problem.. I often changes my phone place but never once I encounter the DeX got rebooted because of missing connection..
Somehow, the battery drains very fast. I think it is caused by the lap dock only enters hibernate mode instead of totally turning off..
I also wonder about the firmware difference... I read on the news that the firmware "fixes" trackpad (enables it to have a right click instead of tapping it with two fingers), and something regarding battery indicator...
Well I have a friend who tested the Mirabook at CES and he said the experience was pretty smooth and well designed.
He tried with a Samsunsg S8 and DeX launched quickly while the mb charged the phone.
Meleor said:
Well I have a friend who tested the Mirabook at CES and he said the experience was pretty smooth and well designed.
He tried with a Samsunsg S8 and DeX launched quickly while the mb charged the phone.
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That's nice! Excited to hearing about it when it finally released!!
That means, at some time, if my hp lap dock went down and I want to change phone, I don't need to root my phone anymore
Good to see such a thread! I sport the elite Dock since december as well, and I may have posted an issue elsewhere, which I'll repeat here as well, the 45W chargers only work if they deliver 2.25A, so some 2A don't charge it for some reason. Also, I don't know if some usb-c cables are more potent than others, but while the provided usb-c cable works (it's quite short though) another one I took from a wall usb-c adapter doesn't even though it allows simple data transfer.
It's a shame that we can't update firmware, even from a Windows laptop. By the way, it totally doubles as an external monitor for a laptop either with miracast or by plugging it with the same usb-c.
It's also annoying that I haven't found a reliable way to power it off and not put it in idle mode, so sometimes it drains overnight :/
I'm putting it aside for now, and I'll wait for the 'Linux on DeX' thzt samsung promised us, that will be a game changer!
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Good to see such a thread! I sport the elite Dock since december as well, and I may have posted an issue elsewhere, which I'll repeat here as well, the 45W chargers only work if they deliver 2.25A, so some 2A don't charge it for some reason. Also, I don't know if some usb-c cables are more potent than others, but while the provided usb-c cable works (it's quite short though) another one I took from a wall usb-c adapter doesn't even though it allows simple data transfer.
It's a shame that we can't update firmware, even from a Windows laptop. By the way, it totally doubles as an external monitor for a laptop either with miracast or by plugging it with the same usb-c.
It's also annoying that I haven't found a reliable way to power it off and not put it in idle mode, so sometimes it drains overnight :/
I'm putting it aside for now, and I'll wait for the 'Linux on DeX' thzt samsung promised us, that will be a game changer!
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Yeah.. I once panicked since I lost the charger.. Buying some 45W USB C charger doesn't help, and thankfully I finally found it back...
I think the way to turn it off is by pusing the power button for several seconds? I usually did that and helped the battery reserves...
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Yeah.. I once panicked since I lost the charger.. Buying some 45W USB C charger doesn't help, and thankfully I finally found it back...
I think the way to turn it off is by pusing the power button for several seconds? I usually did that and helped the battery reserves...
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I actually did not want to use the stock charger since it uses USA power plugs (and I couldn't find the european end bit, even though it's a modular bit) so I used the Inotech 45W charger found on amazon, and it works!
erclalle said:
I actually did not want to use the stock charger since it uses USA power plugs (and I couldn't find the european end bit, even though it's a modular bit) so I used the Inotech 45W charger found on amazon, and it works!
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Wow, thanks for the input!
Could you share me the link? Thanks
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Wow, thanks for the input!
Could you share me the link? Thanks
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sorry mistyped, 45W Inateck*. For some reason it disappeared from the French Amazon where I bought it, this is the usa amazon link, http://a.co/9E42eSW , but if you look for it in your country's store, you'll find different end plug parts
Hi, here are my experiences
i have a g955fd and hp lapdock.
Was Nougat aql5.
Now is CRB7.
No custom rom till now.
With aql5 got no wireless connection.
With crb7 get no cable connection.
with aql5 no display but working keyboard
with crb7 working display (no dex) but keyboard error: all keys are doubled
Someone else with these problems?
Are these problems solved somewhere?
Xamadeu said:
Hi, here are my experiences
i have a g955fd and hp lapdock.
Was Nougat aql5.
Now is CRB7.
No custom rom till now.
With aql5 got no wireless connection.
With crb7 get no cable connection.
with aql5 no display but working keyboard
with crb7 working display (no dex) but keyboard error: all keys are doubled
Someone else with these problems?
Are these problems solved somewhere?
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Sadly no... Main problem is, Samsung check whether the device is dex compatible or not.. Only way to bypass it is by flashing custom kernel...
Now, got a cable connection also with new firmware, but not reliable. A question of order of connecting and powering?
But still no display with cable.
Anybody else with same problems?
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Sadly no... Main problem is, Samsung check whether the device is dex compatible or not.. Only way to bypass it is by flashing custom kernel...
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Well, i aim to flash custom for dex, but that only brings dektop, but will it bring bugfix for double keys when wireless or dark display when cable connection respectively?
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And mouse pad did not work ever.
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The windows app for firmware updates of lapdock should work with win 10. I have none. Did somebody try?
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Does somebody know how to check firmware version without windows app? I found some pictures/vids with light grey screen when connecting and other with dark screen. Which is newer? Mine is light grey.
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Does somebody know, which firmware versions exist and what the differences are? Found no web-infos till now.
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Now, got a cable connection also with new firmware, but not reliable. A question of order of connecting and powering?
But still no display with cable.
Anybody else with same problems?
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Well, i aim to flash custom for dex, but that only brings dektop, but will it bring bugfix for double keys when wireless or dark display when cable connection respectively?
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And mouse pad did not work ever.
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The windows app for firmware updates of lapdock should work with win 10. I have none. Did somebody try?
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1. For cable connection :
To be honest I don't have problem with cable connection (using batrom on nougat and renovate on Oreo). Well, sometimes it doesn't detect the keyboard / mouse or displays a non-HD screen. But, a simple reconnect fixes the problem.
2. Regarding flashing custom ROM and bug fix :
So far, I don't think so..
3. For mouse pad:
Mouse pad only works on Oreo firmware, and when there is no mouse input device.. It usually doesn't show up on hp elite, since hp elite already have TouchPad.
4. Regarding windows update :
AFAIK, you can only upgrade it using hp elite x3 phone. Currently no way to upgrade it using android..
Thanks!
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/sto...6293c7bd37df961b9b369d)(213688)(2527854)()()#
and some say it works on lumia also.
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my light grey screen says
lap dock 083af 8.0.11.0!? Is it a firmware version? What does yours say?
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The cable bug display dark: any settings of s8+ wrong? display resolution? (already tried all three variants)
Xamadeu said:
Thanks!
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/sto...6293c7bd37df961b9b369d)(213688)(2527854)()()#
and some say it works on lumia also.
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my light grey screen says
lap dock 083af 8.0.11.0!? Is it a firmware version? What does yours say?
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The cable bug display dark: any settings of s8+ wrong? display resolution? (already tried all three variants)
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1. Yes, since lumia is a windows phone... I don't have one though, so can't say a thing about it...
2. What Grey screen you mean?
3. What do you mean by display dark? No output at all?
Yes, no output at all, attached is my grey screen.
and the dark display when cable is connected, picture taken by s8+, only thing you see is reflection of the screen.
This guy has no grey connection screen like me! But a dark connection screen.
https://windowsarea.de/2017/01/hp-hat-eine-eigene-wartungs-app-fuer-hp-elite-x3-lap-dock/
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I can reproduce the cable problem: it seems to be the cable itself.
if i turn the plug the connection works or not.
if i swap both ends of the cable, the situation keeps the same.